Gadamer: Hermeneutics and the Human Sciences

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Michael Sugrue

Michael Sugrue

3 жыл бұрын

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@WesternHog
@WesternHog 3 жыл бұрын
You know Sugrue is about to drop something profound when he finishes a sentence, then starts again, “Now...”
@randallsam9774
@randallsam9774 2 жыл бұрын
instablaster...
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
Now 30 years later, he's an overweight guy who has lost his old voice and a scruffy beard.
@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude
@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@drbonesshow1 Considering that he's a cancer survivor and old, he looks pretty good to me.
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
@@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude Stay Lofty.
@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude
@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@drbonesshow1 K
@gnpahdc
@gnpahdc 4 ай бұрын
We lost him today. I've listened to this one over and over, and over again in recent years.
@ahobimo732
@ahobimo732 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Sugrue's lectures set the bar for academic excellence. There is no chaff here. This is pure intellectual paydirt.
@alexanderflood1462
@alexanderflood1462 2 жыл бұрын
1:10 - goal of Gadamer's hermenetic project: bring student to Effective Historical Consciousness. Form of "Phrenesis." 4:35 - mentions "gestalt" of knowledge arising from historical development 5:15 - likens his stance to Aristotle's stance on Tragedy in the Poetics: there are rules for its construction, although its appreciation is a subjective endeavor. 12:40 - brings up that everyone, even a positivist, will learn things from the writings of Shakespeare, even though there is hard and fast method for doing so "nomathetic" - generates hard and fast rules; "idiographic" = generates pictures (perhaps there's a third one that generates words or thought?) 14:30 - two kinds of knowledge: "ferstunf" = reason (i.e. pertaining to any rational being); "ferstain" = understanding (i.e. specifically human understanding) 18:40 - Goethe quote: "if you would inherit from your forefather you must win it again anew" - because we live in temporality, if we are to understand our own conception of the world, our a priori assumptions, even the political and cultural context we find ourselves in, we must investigate what we have, where we got it from, and how our forefathers came to that conclusion in the first place. 26:30 - "transparency of apprehension" - the idea that a good interpretation is a transparent interpretation - one where you no longer see the distinction between the interpreter and the thing interpreted. e.g. a good actor portrayal of Hamlet is one where we see only Hamlet, not the actor playing Hamlet; a good psychoanalyst is one who describes the patient's thoughts in their own words, not twisting them into the structure of their own theories. 37:20 - Gadmer's effective historical consciousness is using language to understand that language is historically conditioned, and that this conditioning distorts interpretation, and that that's not a problem, it's just a part of Dasein 37:40 - dialectical nature of the hermeneutic circle (not a vicious circle; rather, a reverse ourobouros). We approach a text with expectations, our expectations are thwarted, we redefine our expectations, we approach a text with those expectations, those get thwarted, ad infinitum 40:50 - similar conclusions of Wittgenstein and Gadamer in theory of knowledge: does not follow that "soft rules" equate to either gibberish or absolute relativism. Remember Aristotle's "we do not ask more certainty from a discipline than it could possibly give."
@gmeta2611
@gmeta2611 2 жыл бұрын
Phronesis * :)
@junyiliu1264
@junyiliu1264 Жыл бұрын
*Vernunft and Verstehen
@salvandorum
@salvandorum Жыл бұрын
Very useful construct
@billthompson7072
@billthompson7072 Жыл бұрын
Try not to over dasein any dasein 😊
@Khumzalet
@Khumzalet 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Michael Sugrue’s brain is an encyclopaedia 💯
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858
@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 2 жыл бұрын
_if that his brain, what his mind!?_
@robmurray33
@robmurray33 2 жыл бұрын
This is how everyone's brain worked before social media :P
@Goofballhero
@Goofballhero 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmurray33 Ain’t that the truth.
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
Better that than being an encyclopedophile.
@abcrane
@abcrane 2 жыл бұрын
not to mention, a thesaurus
@orthostice
@orthostice 3 күн бұрын
My favorite lecture of all time
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 3 жыл бұрын
39:36 *Gadamer’s problem with positivism: hard science vs. soft science* “You might want to say then (and this is an interesting way, a Heideggerian way of reading hermeneutics) is that his problem with science is that, like Heidegger, Gaddamer believes that science discloses _beings,_ with a small “b” and an “s” at the end-whereas hermeneutics discloses _Being,_ capital “B” with no “s” at the end because that’s the realm of the truly human. When you have completely absorbed your entire cultural tradition that is the realm of _Dasein,_ that is the realm of Being-language and Being perfectly overlap then. So we never quite get to that point but every one of us at any given moment in historical time, we’re living _somewhere,_ we’re in _Dasein_ and our job is to make the most of our horizon by reconnecting ourselves to that historical horizon of our culture and that means the constant ongoing process of _reinterpretation.”_ ...and Hegel adds: _Being_ exists as contradiction, as the power of negation connecting the two. Cadell Last: _“[R]eality as a totality, for Žižek, is not just “something” of material processes and “nothing” of the void; but also the “less than nothing” of virtuality which he claims has not yet been understood properly ontologically.”_
@OnerousEthic
@OnerousEthic 2 жыл бұрын
I surrender! Take me to your leader! 🙇🏽‍♂️🙇🏽‍♀️
@sirliridon.4419
@sirliridon.4419 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that German pronunciation at the beginning was top 👌. Shows how much of a professional, Professor Sugrue is.
@connordavey4422
@connordavey4422 Жыл бұрын
As a Fine Art student at university, that lecture has taught me more about the nature and interpretation of art, then any of my current lecturers… that’s pretty damning hahah but thank you so much!
@orlamcmahon6957
@orlamcmahon6957 2 жыл бұрын
Writing a dissertation now on 'should we separate the art from the artist's intention?' this has been especially helpful as it is hard to place Gadamer within any specific theory. Now understanding he has a philosophy of his own. Has helped me shape my thesis!
@dr.michaelsugrue
@dr.michaelsugrue 2 жыл бұрын
Dad said the answer to your question is "no". In the same way and for the same reason that any real natural science is resolvable into physics, any of the human sciences that is not resolvable into history is make believe. The ahistoricism of the New Critics and the later "death of the author" crowd (largely Yale) was a kind of solipsistic dogmatism about literary interpretation. The New Historicists like Greenblatt at Harvard and the earlier neo-Aristoteleans at Chicago were a needed corrective to this rather contrived aesthetic idealism. Like Aristotle, Gadamer intends to be encyclopedic and propadeutic with his hermeneutical circle. Even the practitioners of Dada could not produce art without a telos, and they strove as hard as humanly possible to do so.
@orlamcmahon6957
@orlamcmahon6957 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.michaelsugrue Thank you so much! This is the conclusion I also came to after watching some of these videos and doing much research. It is great to hear that a man so knowledgeable on the topic has the same viewpoint as me :)
@OnerousEthic
@OnerousEthic 2 жыл бұрын
His presentation and delivery are delightful and charming and passionate; dare I say a nerd’s nerd? I am so impressed!!!
@thattimestampguy
@thattimestampguy 2 жыл бұрын
0:28 Hans Gadamer Effective Historical Conciousness Tact Proportion Good Judgement Phronesis 2:10 Wisdom, Proportion, Common Sense 4:00 Move out of Positivism! 5:18 Rules for Asthetic Appreciation 6:13 Aristotle How far can an idea be taken until it breaks down? 8:46 Science of Interpretation: Hermeneutics 11:37 It’s not entirely subjective Art has Truth
@Trav84
@Trav84 Жыл бұрын
I’ve spent the better part of 3 days cramming these lectures in. They’re fantastic!
@andreasj2429
@andreasj2429 2 жыл бұрын
I unsuccessfully watched several German videos to understand what Hermeneutics mean. This video finally made me understand it. Thanks.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 3 жыл бұрын
32:43 Similarly, this _influence_ on interpretation here (reappropriation) is exactly what Zizek takes up in his project with Hegel/Lacan. _A Lacanian Hegelianism:_ “Žižek’s readings of Hegel’s texts are based on Jacques Lacan’s theories of the subject and the unconscious, and less on Marx. Indeed, Žižek explicitly defends a psychoanalytically impregnated Hegelianism. With an implicit but obvious reference to Marx’s eleventh thesis on Ludwig Feuerbach, he writes in The Plague of Fantasies that the motto of such a Lacanian reading of Hegel could be: _”Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted Hegel; but the point is also to change him.”’_ -Anders Burman
@miagilaani5853
@miagilaani5853 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, he doesn't even pause for a breather. Its like everything is flowing out of him so smoothly.
@daledheyalef
@daledheyalef 3 жыл бұрын
Try watching this on 1.5 speed lol
@carlosgarnica
@carlosgarnica 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible lecture, as always Dr Sugrue. I've listened to almost all your great minds and great authors series, yet te way you have explained the gadamerian proposal has touched me deeply. Thank you again for this treasures from the past that you and your daughter have made available for us.
@CaddyOKnoglies
@CaddyOKnoglies 6 ай бұрын
I can't believe the standard of lecture in every video in the series. Thank you so much for sharing these, Michael!
@muhammadasifkhan4198
@muhammadasifkhan4198 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation. With ease and simplicity he delivers like true scholar.
@patrickskramstad1485
@patrickskramstad1485 Жыл бұрын
I am liking Gadamer.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 3 жыл бұрын
Sandel and his Harvard lectures on moral/political philosophy/communitarianism were one of the first free academic lecture series (like this and other higher educational materials) to grace KZfaq.
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. -- Billy Preston
@andytaylor2737
@andytaylor2737 3 жыл бұрын
This cat I never heard of him before (dadamer)... 🤷🏻‍♂️ but you always learn something new here. Thank you professor for all these lectures and wish you a very happy Christmas 🎄 with your family 🤝 bless you all
@nationalsocialist8382
@nationalsocialist8382 3 жыл бұрын
Cat? Lol, he's teaching the love of wisdom, cat, gtfoh, lol
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 2 жыл бұрын
Of all possibilities, I'd like to be remembered as a "cat"
@nationalsocialist8382
@nationalsocialist8382 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDionysianFields I'll remember you as a communist
@coscanoe
@coscanoe Жыл бұрын
@@nationalsocialist8382 and we'll remember you as a national socialist
@MrBernardthecow
@MrBernardthecow Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Gadamer's transparency is like the criteria for good acting. "A good actor makes you forget they are reading from a script".
@camdix3250
@camdix3250 11 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness! What an amazing and so very clear lecture! At university, 45 years ago, I took a philosophy course on hermeneutics. I had a most wonderful professor then. In the intervening years, I have become much more biased toward science and its method as offering truth. I sorely needed to hear this. This lecture is truly a gift. Thank you so very, very much for this! I will be looking for Dr. Sugrue's other lectures.
@Jaylicelizpectre
@Jaylicelizpectre Жыл бұрын
14:15 is wonderful and I feel follows a strain of thinking on truth that is very in line with Nietzche and Alain Badiou
@nsbd90now
@nsbd90now 2 ай бұрын
I totally remember reading "Truth and Method". Awesome!
@martinkennedy2400
@martinkennedy2400 Жыл бұрын
...breathtaking breadth of reference crystalline distillation of thought a quietly murmuring stream that turns into a torrent of truly scintillating erudition and learning thanks
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 3 жыл бұрын
11:11 This is Rick Roderick’s definition of hermeneutics “a fancy word for _the interpretation of texts”,_ which includes things like _deciphering_ a film or _reading_ a stop sign.”
@neilold3941
@neilold3941 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Rick Roderick, with his Texas drawl. He was a very inspiring lecturer and is someone that we could use today that could bring light into our world.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 3 жыл бұрын
@@neilold3941 totally. always glad to meet a fellow Rick lover. If you’re bored and feel like critiquing something I actually made an edit with him and his brother Zizek in it recently along those lines.
@sandburgmedia7028
@sandburgmedia7028 2 жыл бұрын
I was a student of Rick’s back in the late 80s. Time spent with him changed my thinking and my life more than any other teacher I had. Just an amazing mind.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandburgmedia7028 yeah, Rick was clearly a master of style/storytelling. Wish he had more material out there.. but also there is magic in the gaps. The gems which The Teaching Company captured for us will have a legendary power for a long time to come I think.. There is a petition right now on change/org to get his work printed again: _This petition asks that Roderick’s one book_ *’Habermas and the Foundations of Critical Theory' 1986* _be reprinted by SpringerLink (Palgrave Macmillan), or the rights be given over to another publishing house, or it be out in the public domain. Not least as Habermas is an important philosopher of our time in his own right, who Roderick doubtlessly makes accessible in his book. [...] We say to SpringerLink: Be free, organize the republishing of Roderick (or make the book open access as a pdf) and put him at the center of the canon of great de-mystifiers._ www.change.org/p/springerlink-republish-rick-roderick-s-book
@JOHNSMITH-ve3rq
@JOHNSMITH-ve3rq 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh this content is good. How did I find this? I can almost forgive KZfaq for its censorship and meddling....
@djobokuwali4316
@djobokuwali4316 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@sonalikale5725
@sonalikale5725 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this!
@SergheiSadohin
@SergheiSadohin 3 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. Thank you
@user-kc4ix3tt4y
@user-kc4ix3tt4y 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait!
@michaelprenez-isbell8672
@michaelprenez-isbell8672 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this. I understood interpretation in an entirely new way after this presentation of yours.
@markbuckingham649
@markbuckingham649 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any lectures on Foucault or Derrida coming soon; I would love to see them.
@dr.michaelsugrue
@dr.michaelsugrue 3 жыл бұрын
There is one on Focault yes
@markbuckingham649
@markbuckingham649 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.michaelsugrue , fantastic thank you.
@adamroberts9962
@adamroberts9962 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.michaelsugrue Hey Professor. Any idea why Jordan Peterson and Camille Paglia have such disdain for postmodernism? I love those two thinkers, but I still can't connect their distaste... thank you so much!
@BrooklynLuke
@BrooklynLuke 3 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely adoring these lectures, they’re an incredible resource. I’m curious, is there anything in the archives about Spinoza’s work? If so, I’m really looking forward to it!
@toyoudosen6958
@toyoudosen6958 2 жыл бұрын
Spinoza’s ethics kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9R0n9entZmpZIU.html
@OnerousEthic
@OnerousEthic 2 жыл бұрын
Who was Spinoza? Sounds like a floor wax! (Warning: nerd humor!)
@aaronaragon7838
@aaronaragon7838 2 жыл бұрын
Not funny, dork. Who is you?🏬🏭
@CatsGoMoo100
@CatsGoMoo100 Жыл бұрын
Astonishing lecture! ❤
@ericksalgado8058
@ericksalgado8058 Жыл бұрын
Loved this one. The passion in your voice punctuated your summary at the end of this video beautifully. Thank you.
@st9919
@st9919 3 жыл бұрын
my favorite part of the series. the barthes lecture is good listening
@Jacob011
@Jacob011 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and extremely competent lecture. This is it!
@jademandrake6104
@jademandrake6104 Жыл бұрын
I love him and the speed at which he disseminates his knowledge! Thank you for sharing so much intellectual treasure with the general public, Michael Sugrue!
@harryburganjr.969
@harryburganjr.969 11 ай бұрын
This is incredible!! So happy this popped up on my recommended! I’m actually creating an interdisciplinary art seminar which uses modernist avant gardes to teach a sort of soft literary/cultural theoretical sense. The general idea is that artists at the undergraduate don’t always have all the theoretical knowledge that they need to have effective conversation across mediums. The hope is, then, that modernism-as an aesthetic concept that embodies so much of the ferment that drives theory, but without all the potentially intimidating vagaries of formalized theory-might be able to bridge this gap in a fun and engaging way. In any case, I might use some of these lectures. They are fantastic!
@curtisjackson5793
@curtisjackson5793 2 жыл бұрын
I write my interpretations to help others understand and also to see if I understood anything. I also expect and encourage someone pointing out my potential mistakes. Whenever one mode of knowledge, be it metaphysical, scientific, ideological etc claims to be the ultimate method to rule all knowledge, then we're beholding a dogmactic hard rule: a mode, born out of history, which claims the very form of knowledge, measuring all other modes by its own method. This is being, as opposed to Being, necessarily contingent, sufficient at best, but never the whole Truth, which escapes any form of propositional knowledge, is tapped by many methods, all ways lead to it, but none may claim its possession. Gadamer brilliantly integrates Heidegger Dasein with Wittgenstein's language-games, the hermeneutic circle is the only legitimate method of knowledge, as it does not claim absoluteness, insted it relies on the integration and articulation of truths from many domains, all in relation to one's own historical circumstances, reviving and re-representing, reincorporating the deads' society into the new society, providing us with a transparent interpretation, one which is a soft rule. A soft rule is that which delineates the form of things, but which can't be properly formulated. It's an interpretation that denies one's own representations to take over its form, instead limiting the subject to be the body by which the objective form may inhabit. This may sound very abstract and difficult to grasp, but becomes clearer as we imagine a good actor vs a bad actor. The good one is that which loses himself on the character, the one which allows his well-known face to become the concrete body of that which he represents. The bad actor is that one we all recognize: he carries his mannerisms to all his characters, he “plays himself” on all his roles.
@letdaseinlive
@letdaseinlive 2 жыл бұрын
This is an isthmus between sheer technical account of a thinker and mere gnawing at synoptic phrases typical of a textbook. Much love in the interpretation!
@ohoraherecaptain
@ohoraherecaptain 2 жыл бұрын
10 out of 10. Thank you.
@ryans3001
@ryans3001 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@GodwardPodcast
@GodwardPodcast 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff.
@benbell9170
@benbell9170 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Professor Sugrue, Thanks again for your amazing lecture. I have a question though: I'm sceptic of the Art being a source of knowledge, because e.g. we "learn" from Shakespear. firstly, we may "learn" something from Shakespeare, but if it is knowledge, is another question. Given knowledge being "true justified belief/statement". We might get justified statements from Shakespeare. how could we now proof its truthfulness other than investigating its correspondence to reality, which the scientific method and empiricism in general offer. secondly, if it gets proven as truthful, doesn't it show that the Shakespear himself got to know something and he communicates his knowledge to us through his art. (Art being a medium for communicating knowledge and not the source of it). If it is the case, the question still exists, where and how Shakespear himself found/examined the truthfulness of his narration in the first place? I would be really looking forward to your answers. Sincerely Benn Bell PS.: Sorry if my text is poorly written. I hope I could nevertheless describe my thinking understandable. (English is not my native language)
@davidfost5777
@davidfost5777 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always looking for new interesting lectures on Psychology/Philosophy, please let me know if you guys have any recommendations, would be highly appreciated
@markfiedler9415
@markfiedler9415 2 жыл бұрын
So brilliant. Is William James ever covered in any lectures? Would love to hear what he has to say about the Pragmatist school.
@svalbard01
@svalbard01 2 жыл бұрын
I forget which lecture (either the final one on criticism or the Foucault I think), but he characterizes the pragmatic response to be a sort of "muddling through." In context, I kinda get it, but I'm a fan of pragmatism would also like to hear more about it.
@markfiedler9415
@markfiedler9415 2 жыл бұрын
@@svalbard01 Thanks for the sharing. And yeah, I can understand a characterization like that. I see Pragmatism as more of a method than an answer. Would be so great to get a more fleshed out explanation, indeed.
@abdullahdilavar
@abdullahdilavar 2 жыл бұрын
What Prof Sugrue thinks of Bertrand Russell and his contribution to Philosophy?
@starhaze3593
@starhaze3593 3 жыл бұрын
This lecture gives a very circular arc to the historicism of philosophy similar to Chinese conception of history being circular in the sense that each turn of the proverbial wheel of philosophical advancement is a refinement on the previous ideas but more akin to drilling down to the roots of philosophical knowledge. Gadamer was refining the encyclopedic knowledge put forth by Aristotle but also wrestles with the legacy of Comte's Positivism. Perhaps that is the philosophical methodology at its very essence. To take a mining bore to drill down the layers of knowledge down to its core, with each passing turn of the drill bit, philosophical methodology is being refined to bring us into some central core that will only be accessible for a future generations but built upon the legacy left by Gadamer and other philosophers. Perhaps that is the best application of Hegel's belief in progress being the Synthesis in which Thesis acts as some Yin property and Antithesis being a countervalent force acting as some Yang property. However, Synthesis can only be obtained through the harmony of both as idealized in the Yin Yang conception of dualism.
@nightoftheworld
@nightoftheworld 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but Hegel didn’t believe in harmony in that way, his harmony was a reconciliation only in the sense of accepting the contradiction at the heart of Being: Zizek, _The Sublime Object of Ideology:_ “far from being a story of its [the antagonism’s] progressive overcoming, dialectics is for Hegel a systematic notation of the failure of all such attempts-“absolute knowledge” denotes a subjective position which finally accepts the “contradiction” as an internal condition of every identity.” Hegel’s speculative triads are more truly stated as: _position, negation, negation of negation_ (Aufhebung/sublation). The “synthesis” does not pave over the thesis/antithesis it preserves aspects of both in its dialectical movement, which is why _synthesis_ is a misnomer. From _A Lacanian Hegelianism:_ “Negativity is one of the most central concepts in Žižek’s reading of Hegel. He rejects the usual image of the Hegelian dialectics as something that goes from a thesis to its antithesis before they are brought together to form a harmonious synthesis. And the fact is that Hegel himself rarely describes dialectics in that way. Instead, both Hegel and Žižek prefer the more dynamic concepts of position, negation and negation of negation. The last term is described by Žižek as a “double, self-referential negation [that] does not entail any kind of return to positive identity, any kind of abolition, of cancellation of the disruptive force of negativity, of reducing it to a passing movement in the self-mediating identity process of identity. What is crucial is that the negation of the negation preserves “all its disruptive power.” -Anders Burman
@russv.winkle8764
@russv.winkle8764 Жыл бұрын
freaking awesome lecture, Sugure in his prime was top dogg
@YeahThatsTough
@YeahThatsTough 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant. RIP
@johnmartin2813
@johnmartin2813 2 жыл бұрын
~ 31" I would have thought that the sign of a good interpretation in psychoanalysis isn't the agreement of the analysand to that particular analysis but the elicitation of appropriate affect. Which can then be further analysed.
@johnmartin2813
@johnmartin2813 2 жыл бұрын
~ 35" Is 'Hello.' not a sentence? Or 'The end.'? In this last sentence the verb is understood. But many good English sentences do precisely this.
@johnparadise3134
@johnparadise3134 3 жыл бұрын
1:14 Effective historical consciousness, phronesis
@mikewallis2987
@mikewallis2987 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Anything on Gnostic theology?
@psg5555
@psg5555 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone point me in the direct of learning more about "Transparency of apprehension" in Gadamer's work? It sounds a great idea and I am really interested … but I am not able to find ANY reference to the idea outside of this lecture. Perhaps you read it in the original German and translated it differently than most?
@matthewmiller1976
@matthewmiller1976 Жыл бұрын
There is a discussion of similar concepts in chapter 4 of the work by Robert J. Dostal titled "Gadamer's Hermeneutics: Between Phenomenology and Dialectic." Also see the section in "Truth and Method" titled "Transformation into structure and total mediation." I hope this helps! :)
@pixelricebowl
@pixelricebowl 10 ай бұрын
In Truth and Method, Gadamer writes about the true nature of play, see p. 111 (Weinsheimer / Marshall translation). Gadamer says that "play itself is a transformation of such a kind that the identity of the player does not continue to exist for anybody. Everybody asks instead what is supposed to be represented, what is 'meant.' The players (or playwright) no longer exist, only what they are playing." I take Sugrue's "transparency of apprehension" to be a compact gloss on the much wordier explanation Gadamer gives for how art (in this case, dramatic art) is interpreted and delivers (?) knowledge through participants in play acts. I am open to being wrong here, however, given the difficulty in discerning just what Gadamer is arguing through translation.
@maurofuentes8076
@maurofuentes8076 2 жыл бұрын
Excelent!
@johnmartin2813
@johnmartin2813 2 жыл бұрын
~ 29"" But is that true for instance of painting? When I see a landscape by Van Gogh I don't just see a landscape I see Van Gogh. And what I see is very different from Cezanne or Seurat or Monet. In only the case of Vermeer do I see something that is almost transparent enough to be a photograph. Nor is it in this that his great virtue lies as a painter. Or we would long ago have learnt to prefer photographs. If transparency is not a virtue in painting then how can it be in the other arts? Or is the motif merely an excuse for the display of something else? In a sense any painting by Van Gogh, say, is a more or less transparent self-portrait of Van Gogh. Or is it only the interpreter who has to be transparent? There being of course no interpreter when it comes to painting.
@Jaylicelizpectre
@Jaylicelizpectre Жыл бұрын
20:30 is like a cultural theoretical parallel to J. Butler’s idea of iterability which seeks to add both precarity and difference & repetition to the subject’s perpetual unfolding
@bingolittle8725
@bingolittle8725 2 жыл бұрын
All hail Sugrue
@dexterkey2691
@dexterkey2691 4 ай бұрын
Rest In Peace
@janviermurenzi8914
@janviermurenzi8914 10 ай бұрын
Everything he touches is made perfect. My life as a lecturer is made easier. Janvier Murenzi, 10:05 Rwandan time!
@jameskleinbrook7094
@jameskleinbrook7094 Жыл бұрын
after realizing that comments weren't turned off and reading some I feel the lectures are somewhat diluted now. Allowing comments does make him seem a bit less transcendental though, if you will.
@jmanderson84
@jmanderson84 2 жыл бұрын
The German language both kills me and amazes me. I’ll have to practice that one for a bit before I get it down 😂
@steveschramko2386
@steveschramko2386 3 жыл бұрын
The project of hermenuetics would seem to have the effect of relativizing knowledge , thereby calling into question its very existence as 'knowledge'. It seems to end being something more akin to a species of 'belief'...it could be otherwise....Would we then want to call it knowledge ?
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say wisdom will always possess some element of faith.
@JB-ru4fr
@JB-ru4fr 2 жыл бұрын
All knowledge is belief. That is why there’s a need of “hermeneutics” constant reinterpretation and all the historical revisions. JS Mills does well to caution not to mistake a part of the truth as the whole. Fallibility “uncertainty is the most certain” is the safest bet. Although objective positions are needed for stability they are pernicious when locked away in elitist circles. Intellectuals making a dogmatic claim on truth is no different than the pope or anybody else doing it. Transparency and being open to interpretation is the only way to approach knowledge, which is why the art is here to stay along with the science,.
@TheDionysianFields
@TheDionysianFields 2 жыл бұрын
@@JB-ru4fr I take exception to your generalization. Scientists actually work for their truths, even if they are incomplete in the end. Religious leaders are allowed to make stuff up out of thin air. I prefer the truths that required some discipline to ascertain.
@JB-ru4fr
@JB-ru4fr 2 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised, but the ‘’generalization” is the only logical deduction to make, unless you found a Truth? Science can do anything except prove itself to be right-. Why?. “faith” . “observation “, or “hypothesis “-call it what you like- is all forms of trusting the senses. That trust is the only medium we have to measure something as truth.. That does not mean we can’t place rigorously tested data and whimsical ponderings in different categories of fictional convwntion or authority. It does mean that whatever knowledge we claim to have no matter the magnitude of the body of evidence, it will always be vulnerable to skepticism. Thank Socrates for pointing that out. .
@Fred73251
@Fred73251 22 күн бұрын
Always...
@reviveramesh
@reviveramesh 2 жыл бұрын
Sir , social anthropology and sociology and culture
@eucariote79
@eucariote79 Жыл бұрын
this one, though, its interesting. I found out that you can ,,look,, at history as you look at you childhood memories. as if it were true. as you know by heart the places you lingered as child, the craccks in the wall, the lighting of the room at noon under the tree etc. or is just me.
@wes9124
@wes9124 8 ай бұрын
26:00
@aaronaragon7838
@aaronaragon7838 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody thinking about returning to a Leave it to Beaver MAGA world need only praise the technology that allows us to watch these lectures for free on You Tube. Princeton is out of my price range.
@wes9124
@wes9124 8 ай бұрын
27:30
@ttacking_you
@ttacking_you 2 жыл бұрын
You just know at some point , "At Night All Cows are Black" has been considered as the title of either a Jeff Foxxworthy , George Carlin or Calvin and Hobbes book
@mmotongmahloko4526
@mmotongmahloko4526 6 ай бұрын
This lecture made my head hurt
@Arisbe_obasmoqweef
@Arisbe_obasmoqweef Жыл бұрын
I honestly grew a second brain watching this.
@davidconroy8554
@davidconroy8554 9 ай бұрын
I learn lots from Netflix, profound philosophy in Art.
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
Between my rocks there's a hard place. Sometimes.
@elel2608
@elel2608 9 ай бұрын
30:00
@okwaleedpoetry
@okwaleedpoetry 9 ай бұрын
Like when kung fu masters interpret an animal in their kung fu style if it is an effective interpretation their fighting is effective as well and they embody the animal they represent
@Fred73251
@Fred73251 22 күн бұрын
This is not Wittgenstein
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
There is no Universal Skeleton Key to open every door.
@Agaporis12
@Agaporis12 3 ай бұрын
If you wanna know where western philosophy started to go wrong, it’s nominalism. Gadamer seems to have missed it
@johnjclawson
@johnjclawson Жыл бұрын
phronesis
@Fred73251
@Fred73251 22 күн бұрын
Not Shakespeare
@Fred73251
@Fred73251 22 күн бұрын
Interpretation must include the interpreter
@TomHuckACAB
@TomHuckACAB 2 жыл бұрын
Being smart is sexy AF
@Rapture_Ready_Rabbit
@Rapture_Ready_Rabbit 10 ай бұрын
-TIME HAS RUN OUT !! BERISHEET 2023-2030 !! Tribulation ! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.-
@Fred73251
@Fred73251 22 күн бұрын
Rhysome
@NothingHumanisAlientoMe
@NothingHumanisAlientoMe 2 жыл бұрын
OXCIMMMERON!
@llilli2139
@llilli2139 3 жыл бұрын
Love your lecture, but you talk too fast.
@quayscenes
@quayscenes 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when I listen to a dense philosophical lecture I adjust the KZfaq playback speed to .75 (even .5 in some extreme cases)!
@BboyKeny
@BboyKeny 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that Jordan Peterson is refreshing the bible to be interpreted from a psychological perspective. So I guess he's doing a Gadamer.
@Fred73251
@Fred73251 22 күн бұрын
Paragraphing....are you fucking serious
@Fred73251
@Fred73251 22 күн бұрын
Smugglers
@whom4751
@whom4751 Жыл бұрын
What an overture!
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
All of knowledge is physics except when trying to understand women being a man as there is no hope for doing that.
@kubrickking5101
@kubrickking5101 Жыл бұрын
Such a profoundly dumb, sexist, and nonsensical comment really illuminates how deep this lecture on Gadamer is
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 Жыл бұрын
@@kubrickking5101 No need to use a comma before the word and...but then you are so caught up in your liberal whining to know that or to know when humor raises it's ugly head (at least in your mind).
@kubrickking5101
@kubrickking5101 Жыл бұрын
@@drbonesshow1 I can’t imagine anyone with an operating brain would find your comment even suggestively humorous. I’m not offended by it, just a little stunned to discover stupidity masquerading as humor here in the comments. A for effort though.
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 Жыл бұрын
@@kubrickking5101 If you put any genuine effort into thinking you wouldn't be failing and flailing so. Now go away before you dullness rubs off on me.
@kubrickking5101
@kubrickking5101 Жыл бұрын
@@drbonesshow1 say the dude who types “all of knowledge is physics” in the comment section of a lecture on Gadamer. Lol. Did you even listening to the ideas being expressed? Gadamer is trying to break free of the positivist notion of a pure, true type of ‘objective’ or scientific body of facts. I assume you know that but we’re just being intellectually modest. For that, I respect you immensely, Dr. Mueller!
@christinemartin63
@christinemartin63 9 ай бұрын
You "learn" wisdom from experience and wise people. And having listened to hundreds of hours of albeit summarized theories of famous philosophers (vs. original texts), not very many seem wise--although supremely educated, often exceedingly articulate, and frequently ingenious in mental gymnastics. Alas, wisdom (like happiness) is a rare bird and not easily found. Quite disappointing, actually. I had expected much, much more. Literature seems to be a better, more apt teacher.
@jamesrisser3805
@jamesrisser3805 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! He seems like a nice man, but I am not sure if he has actually read Gadamer's work. There is such a distortion in his remarks of what Gadamer actually says, you are better off listening to Jessica Frazier on KZfaq or even Gadamer himself (with English subtitles).
@cathybrelsford4365
@cathybrelsford4365 3 жыл бұрын
I listened the lectures from both of them and think they both are wonderful teachers. They gave lucid explanations of the philosophy of Gadamer, that is moderate and tolerant, that we may need very much in today’s polarized world.
@riverstud222
@riverstud222 2 жыл бұрын
@@cathybrelsford4365 www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=james+risser "James Conrad Risser is an American philosopher and Professor of Philosophy at Seattle University. He was...the president of the North American Society of Philosophical Hermeneutics." www.seattleu.edu/media/college-of-arts-and-sciences/aboutthecollege/faculty-staff-cv/Risser-CV-SU-2021.pdf He might know what he's talking about...
@cathybrelsford4365
@cathybrelsford4365 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive indeed! My vanity gets a bit flattered. However I think this is the place where people should discuss their ideas and understandings in their attempts to search for truth or/and goodness, instead of the social status or formidable titles. Homage to Socraes.
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