what you gain in one direction you lose in another ( gaining distance lose spin)

I would look into Takomo, especially the 101. Absolutely fantastic irons

I had the same experience…I have had the G425s, i525s, JPX923s, JPX 921 SEL, T200/T300 all in the last 3 yrs and the Ping i230s are my all time favorite. 😂

I recommend (and you won't wanna hear this), add the 4 hyb ASAP height is a beautiful thing for younger PLYR's, it'll change your approach life. Flatten the irons you have by .5* , the right miss concerns me and it sounds like you have a two way miss so it's most likely path. Just take em .5* flatter. Then hold on the purchase. Do it in the off season. You wanna get to single digits, you can easily do that with course management and getting tighter around the greens & adding that 4 hyb. Do an overhaul in the winter and get your forged set, PLUS it gives you time to save so you can get exactly what you want.

@@trottiegolf that’s a good point. I do hit my 4 hybrid well and I have pretty consistent contact. My right miss is when I don’t commit to the shot for fear of going long left but I agree with you. My biggest weakness is that 100-50 yard attack. I need to work on that most of all. Thanks for the advice.

Just hit a longer club. Distance is less important with irons than woods!

Yes it's a progression from the Stealth

I think if you’re looking for control and shape and at that level then MC type irons would be the way to lean

Or of course go spinny ball and 770

@@trottiegolf thanks! I appreciate the reply.

If you hit your numbers for your game then yea …. I like it

Remember you're the boss of your own golf game, so any final decisions are on you. I like to see height (dependent on where you play, links v inland, US v Europe) so game improvement helps for that. I like to see high launching long irons, usually game improvement & I like to see folks have fun, again game improvement. With all that said, some folks just want blades, they like the feel, it's important to them, they want to shape shots, they feel like they get better distance control. All totally fine and I'd work with that or a combo set and explain the positives and negatives of both sets. For me though, it's the PLYR's set, I will be a guiding light but if you want blades and you can't see the benefit of game improvement then (from experience) that is most likely the way to go.

depends on your level but 770 or 790 are prolly the play

Plenty of reps and alignment sticks / build face awareness understanding. No reason you can't become a good player

Check out a recent test on the 2nd Swing Channel comparing a bunch of irons at the same loft. Loft is only one variable in the equation.

@@lawbinson yes, but it's a big variable

Loft is #1, you can also increase ball speed with an iron with a high COR (thin) face that flexes a bit like a driver or fairway wood. The flex face offers more ball speed to higher swing players than it does lower swing but if you can give a player 3-4 mph more ball speed just from face design and then another 4 with loft those all add up and make a big difference for the average player

Loft and CG location, keep in mind launch characteristics..... meaning it's not always loft that gives you yardage

If I wasn’t in love with my Mizuno equipment, Trottie alone would have me in Taylor Made. But always appreciate his knowledge and would love to see him in more playing challenges. Even if it’s against rival ambassadors, I’d like to see him just playing 9 or 18 on his channel.

I'll play Gi irons until I can get down to 5 handicap. I used to play blades growing up in the 70's and 80's. Now I love the confidence I get from GI irons and modern huge 460cc drivers, I have a Sim Max. Replaced my Ti Bubble 2. Currently game 2-SW Ping Eye 2 plus no plus BECU irons and am buying Titleist T300 set used on Friday ($400), excellent condition, amt red shafts/ stiff. These are an alternate to my Ping's which are my forever clubs. Love GI and stress free Golf ⛳.

I'm a 5 handicap and i gladly play p790s. Its a hard game and i like winning. I'm not going to be shaping it both ways. I have a stock draw that i can attack most flags with and i putt well. You are right about ego. I got a buddy thats the same level as me but he plays pure blades. Unless he is striping it he struggles.

I'm high handicap and can hit any brand/type iron and can shape them left, right and straight, going to tm mb very soon as I hate the sudden flying cavity irons off the back. Much rather be short from mishit mb and then chip close 👌👍 my making a living doesn't require what the pros have to do so I see why they play the irons they have.

7 irons rolling out 10+ yards lol

@ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ👉 @Manolo_TeachesGolf Hi there just saw your reply.

Those of us who are starting out playing golf later in life disagree.

Well I’m not going total blade, thinking ZX5/7 or Wilson D9 Forged. Just gotta figure my flex for Modus tour 105.

@TeslaRocks ZX7 is the way to go. Get fitted. The shaft you use can make the difference between a super high ball flight, or a 20 foot roll out after landing on the green. I use the Modus 3 130 X in an older Z945. I lost a few yards but my dispersion is so much tighter. This is coming from a Taylormade TP MB set with KBS Tour 120 stiff.

@@gregchin2172 just got back into golf last year after not playing much for a long time. So went the ZX5 route, I already told the wife she should have never let me play golf again. I see future club purchases beyond the ZX5. Got Nippon modus3 105 in stiff. Never been fitted before and always adjusted to what I am swinging so to speak. I got TM SLDR with KBS C Taper 90 Stiff on those. Taylor Made Rac iron with True Temper 95 Regular on those. If you can swing you can play anything.

Yes they are an option but if you're also striking it consistently you should at least try the 770 too