For me the GI are easy to draw with the added offset and a little harder to cut\fade consistently also due to the offset. I have moved to a smaller head with less offset and find them easier to cut\fade a consistent amount. Really though I could work the older HotMetals I had just fine. The other big take away from this video highlights how our personal dispersion is greater than we want to admit. Add in course conditions and non perfect lies and the dispersion can grow even more. If we could hit our 175 club 175 every time, we'd never miss a green or have a 50ft putt.

As crazy as it sounds, even as a 13 handicap I tend to hit smaller irons better than huge, jacked, GI irons as well.

Did I miss the dispersion patterns? This really didn’t tell me anything.

I’ve been much more accurate with my Mizuno mp20 hmb irons than I was with my previous hot metal pro irons. I’m not in the sweet spot all the time by any means, but I feel I’ve become a much better iron player by ditching the improvement irons.

I've been the hobbiest clubmaker for many years, and for the longest time, I played with a full set of irons that were modeled after the original TM Rescue clubs. Not especially big, but nothing like blades. Anytime I felt I should graduate to something new, I would try it and go back. I just hit them better. I play with a mixed set of Hogans and do love them, but I'm not convinced I play better. It's more for the sweet feel of hitting a forged club with satisfying turf interaction.

Yes!! Played Cleveland HB3 the year they came out. Still playing them, but I can't take my game any further. Just started building my new set of clubs. Mixed bag of Srixon!!

AJ, I would love to see a video exploring iron grinds. How it effects delivery, ball flight, misses, etc. maybe a “digger” and a “picker” with different sole geometries, and investigating what works best and why.

thanks for. your videos. I just watched the mizuno iron comparison and it was awesome. I also enjoyed the bending video messing with the lofts. It was really the kind of in depth video we need. Subscribed.

My hay day in amateur golf was in the 80's and 90's Everything in golf from the ball to the clubs has made curving the ball more difficult but hitting the ball easier.

Perfect timing for me! Considering new irons this year and torn between something like the 923 HM and HM Pro or the Srixon. I guess my question is why not play the most forgiving clubs you can all the way through your bag? What’s the downside? I think on the days I’m hitting it really well I could play anything, but I feel I need to prepare more for the days I’m not 100% dialed because those days happen way more often!

One thing I don't understand is how people keep saying I can't focus as it's to big. Or, with the smaller head I will become a better player as I'm focused on hitting the sweet spot. The score lines on the 221 are 2.125" long. The JPX 923 HL is 2.25 inches long. There is 1/8" difference. It isn't the size of the head, it's the top line. If you can't hit the 221 in the middle you can't hit the 932 HL in the middle, and visa versa. I understand that looks have an appeal to certain golfers but this isn't a big versus small thing. It's a thin versus thick thing. Great channel. Thanks again.

I use players irons for the 5 to PW and game improvement irons for the 3 and 4 irons, although because of the loft difference the game improvement irons are actually stamped as 5 and 6 irons. The only difference I notice is with the players irons I can feel when I miss the center and the game improvement irons feel the same across the face.

Please look at left to right dispersion instead of front to back. Since GI iron usually spin less they should have larger dispersion left to right.

Recently gamed the Mizuno 923 HM pro irons. I found the gaps between irons were to big. Also they went miles. So I would constantly get in-between clubs. I went from 8-10 meter gaps to 15-17. My Wedge was stretched to 130 meters. Just meant I had to carry 4 more wedges. Going back to standard irons very soon.

My swing gets a little more sloppy with GI irons because I know I can get away with more. My player’s irons set requires more of a proper strike

Finally good golf club type comparison Thank You

Great content, I presently play JPX 921 Forged and when I suggest to my pro when being fit about mixing these up with the JPX 921 TOUR & Hot Metal he shy'd away from that. I am now looking at dicthing these and mixing up the new SRIXONS

What they don't tell you about the game improvement irons is they almost always change the lofts so an 8 iron in a blade might be a 6 or 6.5 iron in a game improvement iron. I personally switched 100 percent to the callaway mavrik's this year away from about a 10 year old set of blades and was shocked by the distance "increases" but when you do your research you see the lofts are all different. I almost feel like it is false advertising to say, "you'll hit it further." It isn't the "club" it is the loft. I never was much of a shot shaper but found that I have better help on toe or heal hits with my gave improvement irons. I feel my score has dropped four or five strokes since switching irons. However, I also went from a standard to a mid size grip and should have years ago. I also got a better driver. Another thing that people don't understand is as their mechanics improve, they will actually de-loft the club on their hits and rather than scooping the ball, they will make contact with the ball then the ground and it will naturally de-loft the club. They will end up hitting it further as well.

I'd like to see you do this same type of test comparing shot shapping

But if you check your standard deviations for spin its 561 rpm higher for GI irons, with the widest disparity between your 7th shot and 10th shot with Hot Metals of almost 2000 rpms. Also, your standard deviation for shots relative to the target line was 6.1 yards offline for 221 Mizuno vs 9.6 yards offline for the Hot Metals... For mid-irons on approach shots thats a difference of 5.5 yards or 16 feet 6 inches more offline for game improvement irons. 16 feet 6 inches off the target line is kind of a big deal for me. That the difference between 2 putt pars and 3 putt bogeys, or missing the green all together. I'm not a good enough putter to make up 16 feet on approaches...

I did notice that the spin window on both tests is twice as big in the GI iron. Probably not an issue for a high handicap player but a better player won't want to give up that control.

I thought this was going to be about dispersion and shot shaping ability, instead it talked more about distance. Nothing new there.

Ive been looking at the Srixon irons. Im a 3 handicap. I should be looking at the ZX7, but i honestly wouldnt mind gaming ZX5, but the lofts are way to strong for me. What would happen, if i bend them 2 degrees weak, so the lofts are more in line, with what i need

a distribution view would have been very helpful in looking at the accuracy or at least the consistency. Table data isn't easy to digest visually.

Use game improvement irons until your game improves. You will know when the time is right to upgrade.

Great video again AJ! Good info on distance spreads for 10 balls hit. You make a strong case for using average distances and not best when approaching greens. Thanks!

Try it again with graphite shafts to see the shooters

I think you may have meant jumpers rather than flyers. Flyers are caused by grass between the ball & face (reducing spin) not specific clubs. I realize you're both well aware of that just pointing it out to viewers who may not know. Been a long time follower AJ, keep putting out great videos!!

Testing accuracy with an accurate swing and ball contact seems a moot point all around. You need to test blade vs GI with off center strikes intentionally to see a useful difference IMO.

I am a mid handicapper , do you think I would lose distance and the forgiveness if i went with the mp20 hmb

Im annoyed bc every golftuber gives "five stars" to every g.i.irons reviews. Same frases, forgiving, long, good feel, workable enough. I Just would like to see differencies brought out accurately and "honestly"!! (not saying they are lying)...ha

Why not show right to left dispersion? For a good player, right to left dispersion is more important distance dispersion. I like your work as a whole and I am subscribed to two of your channels, but I did not learn anything from this video.

Accuracy and workability are two completely different things.

why not show the dispersion to show accuracy?

For me, game improvement irons were less accurate.

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I thought you going to talk about workability and left to right dispersion... you said you weren't interested in distance.