Game Pass is Ruining Games

Game Pass is Ruining Games - Inside Games

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[MP1st] The Last of Us Part 2 Budget Was $220 Million, While Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million According to Court Documents - bit.ly/43i6cXE
[GamesRadar] "Not sustainable": Developers across the industry react to The Last of Us Part 2's $220 million budget - bit.ly/44zMlEE
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[The Guardian] The face of PlayStation: Shuhei Yoshida on the joy and future of video games - bit.ly/3rhEtcs
[The Verge] Sony’s PlayStation chief says publishers hate Xbox Game Pass - bit.ly/3PIRXbh
[Eurogamer] Football Manager boss disputes PlayStation's "value destructive" Xbox Game Pass claim - bit.ly/3PMxdiP
[Ars Technica] Sony faces lawsuit over alleged “monopoly pricing” of PlayStation downloads - bit.ly/3rkg6ep
[Sky News] Sony PlayStation being sued for £5bn amid claims it 'ripped off' nine million consumers - bit.ly/3TebO1v
[The Verge] Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Series X and Xbox Game Pass - bit.ly/3rjwPhO
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@insidegames Жыл бұрын

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@user-tp5yb4hr4w Жыл бұрын

i don't mind the gameplay footage and you guys speaking on stuff, but i just don't like your faces, i know this will offend, but the truth is you guys are kind of ugly, you do good videos though and as i said i don't mind your voices and commentary and the video footage of the games, i just don't want to see your faces on the screen at all, just show gameplay footage and don't show your faces. and try not to get too offended by this, as i said i like your videos and i like your commentary and video game footage, i just don't like your faces and don't want to see your faces in the video.

@HiIThinkImReal Жыл бұрын

Hey, gentlemen. I know that I'm just a random stranger on the internet, but I've been following your work since I was a teenager (Lawrence was a laptop back then.) Since then, I've graduated from college and I've gotten married, but I still love to curl up in bed to watch you guys the way I used to when I would come home from high school.

@nedder1 Жыл бұрын

Real

@hillybanson Жыл бұрын

Honestly I get quite a lot if value out of gamepass. There are a bunch of smaller experience games I see on steam all the time not wanting to buy them outright but still interested. Then a good amount of them end up on gamepass. I never would have played citizen sleeper if not for gamepass and that was one of my favorite game experiences in recent memory

@iheartninja Жыл бұрын

@@TrojanGamer10 Be sure to check out the Judgement games as well if you haven't already!

@DarthAscension Жыл бұрын

@@iheartninja Judgement is great along with Like A Dragon.

@user-tp5yb4hr4w Жыл бұрын

yeah until the quality of all games becomes shit because all they have to do is crap it out on games pass and people are already paying for that game regardless they are playing said game or not. this is what it will eventually turn into, because the incentive will be low and the competition will be even lower.

@hillybanson Жыл бұрын

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w and when that happens I will cancel it 🤷

@DarthAscension Жыл бұрын

@@hillybanson they are building the brand around this... They can't cancel their main selling feature and if anything people are saying this is what they want to be... They want gamepass to be just like office 365 something you pay for on a yearly basis and have access too... They want it in tv's, phones, and pc and it feels like they could potentially exit the console market in 10+ years in favour of a streaming service.

@iheartninja Жыл бұрын

Wanna know why publishers might not like Game Pass? Because it is essentially competition for the publishers. If you are a small game studio and you are developing a game would you rather lock into a contract with a major publisher that will probably take a huge cut of your profit and also take away some of your creative control, or would you rather sign a day one game deal with Game Pass for enough money to fund multiple games and it would seem that, on PC at least, you also aren't prohibited from selling on Steam as well.

@illusioned0ne Жыл бұрын

Or selling on playstation. I mean Xbox pays for your game to be day one gamepass and then you make even more money from those buying it on playstation or steam. It's a win win.

@noahstevens1886 Жыл бұрын

Interesting this is the opposite of what developers are saying.

@iheartninja Жыл бұрын

@@noahstevens1886 Well, we're all waiting for your examples?

@itsuko3205 Жыл бұрын

@@noahstevens1886still no example?

@noahstevens1886 Жыл бұрын

@@itsuko3205 @iheartninja Devs get some advantages being on game pass and it's a good platform for small indie projects to get easy ROI but it completely dooms AA and AAA titles to obscurity. A dev can make a hit game that, self published, or under a publisher with a decent deal, would generate billions. On game pass that isn't possible.

@FriendlyNoOne Жыл бұрын

Gamepass makes game purchasing decisions a lot easier. A good portion of the big releases are day and date on game pass which frees up a lot of money to pay full price for the games that aren’t. Games I might have not purchased otherwise. The program is a huge win for gamers.

@bishopsmith3796 Жыл бұрын

Well why don't you guys buy games then?

@FriendlyNoOne Жыл бұрын

@@bishopsmith3796 if it’s a game I want and it’s not on Game Pass I do buy it. You can’t deny it’s value though. Between now and October we get Starfield, Forza 8, Payday 3 and several others.

@Master_WannaBe_ Жыл бұрын

@@bishopsmith3796f a game is fun enough that I want to keep it permanently, I’ll fork up the cash to buy. But for 9 out of every 10 games I play on Game Pass, I’m not going to buy because I don’t have $540-630 lying around. Why bother buying when I can just download it at no extra cost? If it’s awesome, I’ll gladly buy it to own it; if it’s not awesome, no harm done, I’ll just remove it from my storage.

@DarthAscension Жыл бұрын

@@Spyro_2 I am not OP but the way I see it, GP offers the most value to the young kid / teen or even streamer / content creators who can no life games and just churn and burn regardless of what the game is and just consume and move on its great. I recall as a kid I was all about renting games when I was a kid and blowing through them in a weekend game pass is clearly this for many, it does not need to be amazing but it’s even better if it is and I will admit there is some bangers on game pass but all in all out of the hundreds of games offered only 20 - 30 of games offered would be must buys for someone like me. Now let’s swap to a person with real life responsibility’s, a life, a GF / Fam / Career… and can average 6 - 8 hours of game time a week… well then games last a heck of a lot longer and often games that are not absolutely amazing fall off, or games require too much investment to get into and you just fall behind the curb you start to focus on a few games and work on any back log while waiting for the plethora of sales that happen on a quarterly basis to kick in to pick up the game you passed on at a fraction of the price. I am clearly an above average gamer as the last games I have bought are FF 16, Street Fighter 6, Diablo 4, ToTK, along with less recent Elden Ring and Hogwarts Legacy all of them not on Gamepass.

@rickeyhernandez2094 Жыл бұрын

@DarthAscension ok but let's say you buy 2 games a year because all of the above mentioned. That's the price of Game pass for a year and you get to play more than just 2 games or focus on 1 or 2 games because it comes out to the same price.

@duffybrute Жыл бұрын

I've tried so many games thanks to gamepass tbh. If it wasn't for gamepass, I'd have missed so many old and indie games that I ended up loving. Ofc Sony would dislike it because it is against $70 ($80-$90 in Canada) game prices, where they make huge chunk of money. For a consumer gamepass is pretty good. Although it depends on what kind of gamer you're.

@PatrickWilliams-ts4le Жыл бұрын

100% agreed that Gamepass is amazing to try indie games. Hard to drop 10 dollars on a indie game you have no idea if you will like or not cause it is a complete unknown. But now I now I got several indies on my radar who I will buy future games from.

@maxsun13 Жыл бұрын

Game Pass and the Playstation equivalent PS Plus Extra are such good values I don't care if it's sustainable I just want content

@JJ-fk5ys Жыл бұрын

Game pass has first party and support from 3 party plus indies. What do you mean what kind of gamer you are it covers everything

@Coboysfan247 Жыл бұрын

I really like the discussion about smaller companies breaking into the industry without massive budgets. However, I think a game like BattleBit showed it is possible.

@user-tp5yb4hr4w Жыл бұрын

true true, i'm looking at one that is indy early access game called spacebourn 2 that looks good, and only one dev working on the game, but the amount of stuff this dev has been able to accomplish in such little time is pretty damn astonishing, it's just he's an indy dev, but his game is kind of a mix of star citizen and elite dangerous and NMS in one game. it's playable right now, it's just a little rough around the edges because it's early access.

@Narkissos_1 Жыл бұрын

Due to word of mouth many games manage it the last years , Cuphead, valhaim, cult of the lamp, vampire survivor, hades, stray, weird west , coffee talk , Kena, planet of Luna, eastern exorcist.U love to see small studios to do well.

@Coboysfan247 Жыл бұрын

@@forrrrestjohncave I think it may have still gotten some attention because of the low specs needed to run the game.I bet the Roblox art style would also have been highlighted for a bit. Ultimately, BF 2042 did screw up even with its massive budget. BattleBit got lucky in that case and was able to fill a long desired niche in gaming.

@spacehornet Жыл бұрын

I like Gamepass a lot. I would have never tried Hades if it hadn't come on Gamepass and it's one of my favorite games now. I've just played more different types of games on Gamepass. I often don't have the time to play all the new AAA games, but I can play Hoa for 3 hours and beat it in a weekend and really enjoy it.

@charlesbroadway5647 Жыл бұрын

Games are already 70$. They're squeezing us now with all the micro transactions

@djarthurlooby Жыл бұрын

U don't need to spend a dime on micro transactions. Never has impacted me.

@charlesbroadway5647 Жыл бұрын

@@djarthurlooby oh it is dude. You and I may not spend any money on it, but everybody else does and it only shows them that the system works and they'll just keep pushing them more and more. Your response is a weak argument.

@djarthurlooby Жыл бұрын

@@charlesbroadway5647 sure but can u really blame the developers to take advantage of the stupidity of the ppl? If no one would use micro transactions then the developers wouldn't include them. I honestly would do the same if I see ppl using micro transactions. Really only the ppl using them are to blame. They also can't complain about it if they use it. There is never a need or a obviously need to ever use and them anything besides the game and the dlc. Micro transactions is something ppl choose to use but don't need to use at all.

@charlesbroadway5647 Жыл бұрын

@@djarthurlooby my first response didn't say anything about Devs doing this. They're making games, not pricing them. You're only proving my first point. Just stick to DJing

@djarthurlooby Жыл бұрын

@@charlesbroadway5647 the devs opting to add the feature in and I am saying I would do the same thing add micro transactions to a game when I noticed ppl r dumb enough to spend money on micro transactions. I don't blame the devs for putting micro transactions in to a game I blame the ppl dumb enough to spend money on them. They can put as many micro transactions in to a game. No one forces me to use them correct? Exactly. For all I care leave them micro transactions in a game. U don't have to spend money of them. But if ppl opt to spend money of them. That is their own problem and fault no one else's fault. I am just sick of ppl constantly complaining about micro transactions. Again no one forces ppl to spend money on them.

@smagliaro Жыл бұрын

I definitely prefer MS's approach over Sony's. GamePass has enabled me to try so many new and different types of games that I'd ordinarily never have played, many of which have been from small/indie dev teams. For productions like that, GamePass immediately gets them a huge amount of exposure and a zero-friction way to play, while also netting a guaranteed payday from Microsoft. If GamePass really does balloon to $30+/mo, I'd love to see a dedicated lower-cost ID@Xbox-esque subscription tier to keep supporting that part of the market. I'll just shell out $60-70 for the heavy-hitters while stuffing my face with small-studio games in between.

@ZirexNorcruin Жыл бұрын

It was horizon forbidden west that cost 200 million, not horizon zero dawn.

@hermanmunchther3082 Жыл бұрын

Either way it's pretty sad. The games were so repetitive and boring

@FrozenRage1989 Жыл бұрын

I actually would have to sit down and count the number of games Ive bought after getting to play them on GamePass. I know Hades, all the Yakuza 0-6 and Dead Cells to name a couple but I appreciate GamePass as I treat it like a modern rental store.

@Tanner85800 Жыл бұрын

I bought the exact same games after trying them on gamepass. Waiting for isshin to be on sale. And I’m excited for hades 2

@numa4life Жыл бұрын

personally I'm all for game pass for the value. I'm someone that is very poor and rarely have the money to spend on a full priced game (even indie sometimes), something like game pass for only like 15 bucks i get the chance to try out or play games i normally wouldn't be able too, and found some of my new favorite games that way. I see game pass as almost like a rental service it lets me try out games on my time and my budget and if i really like a game i will buy it so i can play it with out the subscription (I've done this with grounded, wastelands 3, and several others). Honestly the fact that the publishers don't like game pass is all the more reason for me to enjoy it, because that in turn means its significantly pro customer, because all a publisher cares about is making ALL the money. So if this saves me from spending 60+ dollars on a shitty cash grab that a publisher releases in a severely unfinished state and expects me to be grateful, then i am all for game pass frankly. You want my money AAA publishers? EARN IT WITH A FUN GAME-PLAY NOT MARKETING AND LIVE SERVICE GARBAGE...

@glenharris9366 Жыл бұрын

Personally I've been enjoying game pass. I was skeptical when I first heard about it, but I easily get my money's worth out of it, and it introduced me to a lot of games I'd have never actually purchased from a store (digital or physical). So many great indie games out there that I'd never have experienced had I not had the subscription.

@spacehornet Жыл бұрын

One thing I really like about Gamepass is that some of the games are cross-platform with PC and share saves. Sometimes I want to play on my PC when others are using the TV or I don't want to wake up people early in the morning. Other times I want to play on my TV while my wife sits next to me. I love that Ascent and Citizen Sleeper both let me switch between PC and Xbox seamlessly. I might have never played either without GP and I love them both!

@NiallStJohn Жыл бұрын

I definitely spend less money by just buying the games I want instead of paying for a subscription.

@foxmind2490 Жыл бұрын

Hearing Bruce say “money fight” reminds me of that Simpsons scene where Mr. Burns and Smithers throw cash at each other

@0ring0 Жыл бұрын

I'm enjoying both both services (I do the digital game share thing with my brother & his kids). I am, though, enjoying Gamepass a lot more. Having access to gamepass, with EA games on both my Series X & my PC for one (somewhat) decent prize is a pretty convenient. The best part, though, is thst my brother doesn't have to spend dime on new games for his kids!

@lonewolffang Жыл бұрын

Lawrence wants Wipeout. Give the man Wipeout dammit.

@I_am_ENSanity Жыл бұрын

Honestly, even if Game Pass hits $20 a month, I'll pay because I have had more fun playing random games off of GP than I have in a long time.

@Ben-Rogue Жыл бұрын

Gamepass is ultimately going to go sour, like all subscription models. They have to raise prices or cut quality as their costs go up, and subscriber count will stall eventually.

@kingsley3208 Жыл бұрын

That’s it, once the subscriber growth slows the commercial numbers are not as exciting to execs and the money faucet is turned back considerably

@TheManadeath Жыл бұрын

We talk about high much AAA games can cost, but only the price tag. We never seem to talk about what that price tag includes. If devs dont want to push an unfinish game back due to budget costs, my reaction is still "what have you been spending it on".

@megatronusv2215 Жыл бұрын

Cost of labor. And almost certainly spent, unproportionally more on higher up managers

@TheIrishGamerGuy Жыл бұрын

I honestly thought 200 Mill was chump change for a AAA game. When you add in marketing costs surely its closer to 600 million

@NionAeon Жыл бұрын

Why does Jim Ryan always look like a dad who’s decided to stay home to chaperone his teens house party?

@crispyryce3585 Жыл бұрын

When I subscribe to Gamepass I immediately take the 30 seconds it takes turn the auto-renew off. For me, it's not worth paying for it every month. There's way too many good games to play that aren't on there. That's my model. It doesn't fall in line with what Microsoft wants. I implore everybody to do this, to see where your gaming goes.

@steviemac2377 Жыл бұрын

I buy a one month ultimate pass only once or twice a year and honestly i havent needed to go anymore than that. Bought a pass last month for the first time since April 2022 and most of the stuff they've added since i didn't really even enjoy lol

@Jono_93 Жыл бұрын

"As much as i love being squeezed as much as the next girl." - Says the a man named Charlotte.

@orangeoblivion Жыл бұрын

Never getting game pass. I’d rather own my games than rent.

@willlive6845 Жыл бұрын

I'm just tied of live service grind fest games. My wife and I played through the Halo series and the gears series, we love co op story experiences and those just don't exist anymore.

@ExelArts Жыл бұрын

im worried my uncle thinks this is the future large corporations have been ruining gaming

@RAFisTECH Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of indie games on gamepass….. and there are day one releases. Everyone wins. Gamers and developers

@LMedina1021 Жыл бұрын

Gamepass really does help out smaller studios for exposure but not for big budget games not in long run with Sony you get at least 2 big exclusive a year they probably get their money back quick

@bjkblkf Жыл бұрын

Sony is just salty that "PlayStation Now" was dead on arrival, because nobody wanted a "Cloud gaming only" version of game pass.

@konversion Жыл бұрын

Why does Charlotte's mic sound like it's recorded on a potato?

@christopherwhitfield4005 Жыл бұрын

I love Wipeout! It was my favorite ever since the demo disc came in the magazine!

@L33tSkE3t Жыл бұрын

Wipeout on PSP was my Jam as a kid.

@ChristopherCricketWallace Жыл бұрын

The REAL question is why are the production costs so damned high? Invest in better tools for the long term. Do more planning before development. Stop reinventing the wheel for each sequal. Bigger does not equal better. Pay pess money for licensed IP only to crank out crap. Make a game--not a marketplace. Spend less money on casino consultants.

@Macedonia914 Жыл бұрын

My biggest concern with game pass is that everyone keeps saying it's a bunch of content for very little cost. Everyone says it's the best deal in gaming because it really is. You get a bunch of games for a really low price. And that's awesome, you as the consumer feel like you are cheating the system so you love it. But if everyone is "cheating the system" and getting this killer deal then either every game studio has a huge profit margin and game pass is exposing the real cost of a game or Microsoft is using this as a loss leader and pulling from their other branches to keep gamepass a float while they trap you in the ecosystem. Eventually they will want to make money. It just sounds like a financial bubble waiting to burst.

@ecbald1921 Жыл бұрын

It is actually not that hard of a concept Let say you have 2 million subscribers. That's a guaranteed 30 million a month coming in games releasing or not. Let's say you release a banger like GTA6 or similar highly anticipated game and at the same time you release some dumpster fire like Gollum. That GTA6 is going to sell whether it is on GamePass or not because people are going to want a copy separate from the service in case they ever decide to cancel so you get your 30 million plus your traditional sales. Then you sell 80000 copies of Gollum so you only got like 3.5 million off of that now you have a way of mitigating that loss instead of just eating it because you have that guaranteed monthly income. Having a known amount coming in every month also allows for better project planning.

@Macedonia914 Жыл бұрын

@@ecbald1921 You are right it does make for a great way to have a move consistent revenue scheme. And the more i was writing my response below the more I agree with you. This current system works well because of traditional sales being accounted for. That is the key to this whole thing. But I also would raise that you left out a very crucial aspect out of your calculation. You are not take into account if there is +100 games on game pass. So that major release of gta6 is not getting 100% of the revenue, they have to split that 30 million a month with some kind of revenue splitting scheme. And Microsoft will take their 10-30% take. The best way for them to make money is to let you get the base game and then they sell dlc that is not included with gamepass. Basically the system is just a big rent it before you buy it.

@rickeyhernandez2094 Жыл бұрын

Gamepass increased in price in countries outside the US which is not the bulk of there customers.

@TheProgramer64 Жыл бұрын

Where's Brian at?

@noahstevens1886 Жыл бұрын

$200 million, five year development isn't unsustainable in any way. These games make billions. It's like these people don't know how money works.

@ianlawrence8343 Жыл бұрын

I love both models. HZD was an incredible game, and game pass opens up more games to play. I think both can work.

@tio8194 11 ай бұрын

“Gamepass cuz you get more games that way” quality > quantity dude

@VEN0M415 Жыл бұрын

I can see the benefits for indie devs to get payed more from bigger exposure no question there, but for bigger titles I feel like theres a possibility they'd get payed less than if it wasnt on GP day one. I say potentially as I have no idea what MS even offers these devs/studios so hard to say if games really wouldnt surpass the price Xbox pays if it was launched full price. IDK the market is weird and its reminding me of the gaming bubble, more customers every year but we still cant reach numbers we saw in the 360 days, especially player retention. They really need to see that brand name powers wonders like infinite and Scarlet/violets with massive pre orders and sales, all thats needed is quality to retain majority of said buyers which both failed to do. if only they didnt get rid of play testers to see what might be wrong. but thats just my opinion.

@travispizinger8173 Жыл бұрын

This would have been a great video for reference when my students were writing about games! Kinda curious to see how much Spider-Man 2 will cost.

@luckyrockmore2796 Жыл бұрын

Games have not gone up much in price compared to inflation since mid 80s. Not only that but you're getting much more entertainment value out of modern games. I know this isn't a popular opinion but raise game prices to where they probably should be. This may also alleviate some of the problems in the industry like unfinished games being rushed to market etc...

@TracyMarkGorgas Жыл бұрын

I feel like I am an outlier with Game Pass. I love it, I find new games I would have never tried if I had to buy them at full price, and if I like them enough I outright buy them. I don't try to burn through them before they leave the service, I don't have the time. Too many adult responsibilities For example "Decenders," I tried it on game pass and enjoyed it so much that I bought the physical version when it finally became available. I do get PS Plus also, and Sony locks you into that, unlike Microsoft. With Xbox Gold (or Game Pass Unlimited) you get two to three games for free each month and you get the same with PS Plus. The difference is with Microsoft if you end your subscription you can still play those games, they are yours, full games. Sony, on the other hand, if you end your PS Plus subscription those games are no longer playable or they become a demo. You have to buy the games or resubscribe to PS Plus. Meanwhile, Nintendo is sitting quietly on the side with their online service of classics from years past. Google fumbled the ball. And Amazon is like, "We got free games too. Come look... please?" Heaven forbid Steam or GOG get into some kind of similar service. I feel at some point these game services are going to become like the movie/TV services. More of them than you can afford to subscribe to and they all got great stuff.

@StrangerCreations352 Жыл бұрын

Love the little dig about not knowing what Zero Dawn means. I also never got far enough to know what it means.

@Christian-eq7uh Жыл бұрын

My question is with the E shop tax, why doesn’t Nintendo face class action lawsuits too?

@MrMightyZ Жыл бұрын

You left some stuff out guys, In the press release you quoted, Jim Ryan went on to say that he doesn’t know what Microsoft stands for except that they stand for everything Sony doesn’t stand for and that his Dad could beat up Phil Spencer’s Dad to which Phil replied “As IF!” then Jim yelled “You SUCK!” before his Mum snapped “That’s enough from you two!” to which Phil said “He started it!” when Phil’s Mum appeared on the scene and led Phil away by the ear. Actually that extra context was totally unnecessary. My bad. Carry on.

@Sarjantbob Жыл бұрын

I really hope Lawrence isn’t watching rooftop fireworks again 😅 I don’t know if we truly have the technology to rebuild him again

@ImmortalInflames Жыл бұрын

I hate subscription models so much.. I like picking up pre-owned games a couple months after release for about half price!

@seanbarry6163 Жыл бұрын

I don't see the issue with games costing $200 million plus. How is this any different from current blockbusters?

@Jermays173 Жыл бұрын

It's an awful business model for consumers. It costs far more over an extended period of Time than it would to purchase select games individually. It would possibly only benefit people who play hundreds of different games for a few hours each. I've been playing Fallout 4 for years and years, if i was paying a subscription to play it then i would've paid for the game in whole several times over.

@Cheeseybeaver45 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy gamepass but I'd rather not have Xbox as the only publisher of games.

@4sonfighter Жыл бұрын

I think GP has an interesting idea for Special editions in paying $30-40 for the special edition on GP instead of paying $100+ ie starfield

@klassicneo Жыл бұрын

Just like how I'm here for all the jokes and not for the games journalism, I rather have more types of games than a few super good ones

@crazytamal6938 Жыл бұрын

I can see people buying games once they rotate out off game pass

@FrankAZHP Жыл бұрын

I agree with Lawrence we need a new Wipeout. One that was good as XL/3/Pure/Pulse/HD. Not one that was okay like 1, or awful like Fusion.

@haloquayle Жыл бұрын

sup been a hot min but did these 2 leave roosterteeth? I'm not seeing any rooster links anywhere

@QuestioningLogic Жыл бұрын

I liked wipeout a lot, happy to be part of such an exclusive club

@pjf674 Жыл бұрын

$200 million on a game and they can't afford Adobe Acrobat?

@KingAgniKai Жыл бұрын

Gamepass ruins the perspective of a game for me. I can't see myself paying full price for that game.

@MaNameizJeff Жыл бұрын

I feel sad that horizon zero dawn may seen as a failed game, I think it is one of the best games I have ever played. I have it on ps4 and then pc version. if forbidden west would come out on pc I would pay full price.

@_n8thagr8_63 Жыл бұрын

I just wonder if things like Gamepass continue to get ppl used to not actually owning anything.

@Werkvuur Жыл бұрын

@@SiboshiIt is...

@AloisWeimar Жыл бұрын

bingo!

@breadboi8747 Жыл бұрын

I mean, most people like myself don’t care about owning every game they want to play. I’ll buy games like starfield to own because those are games I’m really hyped about but this whole notion that I should own every single or even just most of the games I want to play is dumb and a waste of money for a lot of people

@Lioris13 Жыл бұрын

Everyone I know has canceled Game Pass as the value is awful for people working full time with families. We even all discussed the value & if you can play like 30-40 hours a week then sure but I'll play an evening hardcore & a few hours some days. I went 4 months playing only Sea of Thieves & just got sick of sinking £120 a year to play a game I already bought on sale

@kill3rs529 Жыл бұрын

Game pass feels like what netflix was to blockbuster.

@CoopenhagenX Жыл бұрын

I like both. I like my big budget expensive AAA "boring" "uncreative" monster titles and I like being able to try a bunch of games I'm not sure about on gamepass. Though currently I'm in a similar vein as Charlotte in that I'm just giving Microsoft 15 bucks a month and never using the service.... also, it often doesn't have crossplay with steam and that is absurd and needs to change.

@juanstar Жыл бұрын

The question about gamepass thou is until when will they give out great deals Or give out deals thats good enough to cover what devs might have earned witout doing day 1? As i understand MS is subsidizing gamepass from inception and the foreseeable future.

@DarthAscension Жыл бұрын

I did not get value out of GP so I stopped… to be clear the games I really like are not on any service so I had to buy them. In the future if GP gets all the greatest games then I will have no choice but to sub up.

@thefilmdirector1 Жыл бұрын

yup, gamepass is for casuals who hop around and dip there toes into anything. For hardcore gamers that know what they want the value isnt there, none of the good shit is on gamepass. At least Sony offers more compelling games with plus extra and premium.

@steviemac2377 Жыл бұрын

@thefilmdirector1 Just upgraded the remander of my ps plus ( 7 months) to the premium tier for 16 bucks during their sale and have several games ive been wanting to play. Last month bought a month of game pass for the 1st time since April 2022, got bored after 2 weeks😂. So many of these Day one game pass games have been a disappointment atleast to me

@DarthAscension Жыл бұрын

@@R17759 what games keep you subbed? I ask because I have a great job but limited time (current game that is taking my time is FF 16 at about 2 hours a night / second night). I subbed up to GP Ultimate (I do not own a X/S but I was playing on PC and I am very aware the GP on console and GP on PC are not 1:1) at the time it was 3 months for $1 deal and I bought another 3 months until it was the release of Halo infinite (the game was a huge disappointment for me so I dropped the sub and never went back). During this period I dabbled on Forza Horizon 5 (it was fun for a week, clearly drivers are not my thing), grounded (not a fan), Dark Alliance (so happy I did not buy that game), sleeper citizen (would have never bought), Tunic (it was fun), trek to yomi (beat it and never looked at it again). My recent games I bought are FF 16, Street Fighter 6, ToTK, Diablo 4, I really liked Elden Ring and such all of these games are not on GP. I look forward for your commentary.

@Wow1w Жыл бұрын

Jokes on you, I get my Game pass Pre-paid with the 1:1 conversion from gold!

@Spartan_83 Жыл бұрын

Why does Ryan have such a hard time not lying? lol

@ExelArts Жыл бұрын

Developers are already coming out and saying there not making much profit or there losing money thanks to game pass. Devs paychecks will shrink thanks to this

@icemanTK Жыл бұрын

I loved Wipeout!

@CasualViewer-t4f Жыл бұрын

I start playing games on Game Pass. I’ll typically purchase it if it’s a great game want in my library. I’ve been doing the same on PS+ Premium since I missed out on a lot of legacy content.

@geromc Жыл бұрын

Ouch. Horizon catching too many strays.

@calebd7371 Жыл бұрын

Idk lol devs sure love the exposure they get from it

@SAGERUNE Жыл бұрын

Not to be a doomer...but i cant name a single sustainable sector of the world right now. Entertainment was always so rock solid...it helped me forget

@chanman4rings Жыл бұрын

I said this on a similar story on a diff channel two weeks ago... Haven't the most vocal publishers been the big AAA ones? Ya know the same publishers rushing out unfinished full prices games after dev teams tell them it's not ready? A practice they've made standard operating procedure? The smaller publishers/devs have mostly said it has helped them. If this is true and it hurts the AAA guys and helps the smaller ones then I'm all for Game Pass

@Ben-Rogue Жыл бұрын

200m to develop a console seller of a game, isn't really all that unsustainable. At 11m sales, God of War Ragnarok has made AT LEAST 200m in profit. That's a huge return on investment!

@TaydolfSwifter Жыл бұрын

growing up in a poor country we use to pirate to test the game when we like it we buy it . sounds like gamepass is just a little bit more convenient than piracy likw those streaming platforms.

@DV-ou1yu Жыл бұрын

Charlotte out here trying to get squeezed!!! 🤣🤣🤣

@sanekibeko Жыл бұрын

Sony should make some AA games with their older ips like with Sly, Jak and Daxter, and wipeout.

@LaztstaNd Жыл бұрын

I don't think you can look at the rise of mobile gaming and PC gaming and come to the conclusion that both Game Pass and the budgets for Sony games are equally "unsustainable", especially if we're talking in the long run. MS strategy is about putting GP everywhere while Sony's strategy is to set up a artificial paywall of 400-500$ if you want to play a SINGLE one of their exclusives day one. That worked for Nintendo (until it didn't and they had to innovate their strategy, killing off their home console business and very successful portable business in favor of a hybrid model that they are now stuck with), and it's still working for Sony, but in 10 years time, good luck in finding someone who will buy a entire console just for one game, when literally 95-99% of games out there are available everywhere with multiple ways to own or rent them.

@HawkOfLight1 Жыл бұрын

Game Pass and Streaming services aren't ruining the industry. The people who earn the majority of the profits are.

@lucid644 Жыл бұрын

I just changed from a loyal Sony fan to Xbox only player now.... love it.

@TheTy502 Жыл бұрын

Gamepass is ruining the gaming industry. It will stiffle gaming and become nothing more than micro transaction mobile games.

@balupo Жыл бұрын

Right there with you on Wipeout, Lawrence

@JesusLopez-wc9jo Жыл бұрын

I've haven't had much value on gamepass i've played way to many games for their libary to intrest me. I played and finished the halo collection. I finished guridans of the galaxy and some other games. I have so many games on blacklog that I have no reason to go to gamepass unless I get a code for a dollar a month or create a new email to get the 1 dollar a month. I don't really value the gamepass games Like I value the games I "own" on steam I think its beacuse I know I won't keep em.

@michaelgrant4867 Жыл бұрын

Which company can burn supid money for longer - The answer is Microsoft and as a PC gamer, im all for that

@jackprice4959 Жыл бұрын

I felt a little awkward that I was playing horizon while listening to this.

@dmcg7949 Жыл бұрын

I don't care if it wasn't even in this video I still see Charlotte now and think 'Brexbox' and giggle all over again.

@HawkOfLight1 Жыл бұрын

Inside Games makes Inside Gaming look like a Game is... Inside ur butt... 😢

@MatthewGDunlap Жыл бұрын

Lawrence is the type of person to say "Beespoke"

@crazyyenii Жыл бұрын

Crazy to me that horizon zero dawn is 200mil. Its a very 7/10 game and throwing moeny at ok is kinda crazy

@djmccullough9233 Жыл бұрын

not everyone likes pepsi either, shocker.

@SkullCrusher-xk5wp Жыл бұрын

I've definitely bought games on gamepass that I really liked. Especially if they aren't Xbox exclusives which means they won't stay in game pass forever. And I would have never bought them, let alone played them, without it. I'm not gonna be surprised when we see more price increases for gamepass. It's inevitable. But rn I'm happy with what I have. I just finished playing The Big Con, a game I never would have touched without gamepass. Simply because I just don't have that much expendable income to drop on every single game I'm interested in.

@SebTheGreat84 Жыл бұрын

Microsoft has like 30 million Gamepass subscribers, so that's roughly 300 million per month, seems pretty sustainable to me, or atleast it will be shortly with a few more subscribers

@kevinwilliams3531 Жыл бұрын

Excited for "game pass saved gaming" next week

@Infinite8blue Жыл бұрын

Becasue of Gamepass i have played so many indie games that I would have never given the time to try out if i had to buy it upfront i also purchase a lot of games that I have enjoyed on Gamepass, and avoid buying games that I didn't like on Gamepass

@TheXcrazymanxX Жыл бұрын

Game pass is ruining it for stores like GameStop as do digital sales. A lot of sales of games come from parents browsing for presents. These game stores offer older preowned games that make good opportunity for someone to get into a franchise and then buy the new game in the series. There are plenty of games and series I wouldn’t have played if they hadn’t been gifted. And plenty of games I will never play on game pass.