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@Dani-yo Жыл бұрын
I like putting pyros video as background noise while i get through my day. Thank you Flashbang for providing yummy slop for me to listen to, truly one of the KZfaqrs of all time.
@dogeboithedoomslayer Жыл бұрын
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@FarnesV Жыл бұрын
Fr! I use him when playing space engineers
@microwavable__ Жыл бұрын
flash bang here
@mrdustykins Жыл бұрын
Samee
@ripsquadhaha Жыл бұрын
same, i put on his stream as background noise while playing Genshin Impact
@PlayerOne.StartGame Жыл бұрын
My personal pet peeve with some tutorials is when the characters IN UNIVERSE tell you the controls. Nothings more bizarre than hearing the voice of a character telling you what the A button is in universe.
@Soldrick Жыл бұрын
SNAKE, to use the ladder push the Action button
@hooting-ton5215 Жыл бұрын
Sly Cooper
@sabot4104 Жыл бұрын
@@Soldrick Metal Gear Solid breaks the rule of a character telling you what to press, but it just fits in so well.
@RetroLeaves Жыл бұрын
The Mother series does this well "Imagine something called a B Button...harness your energy to "press" that button. And you'll ram into things!" - Paraphrased tutorial from Mother 3
@kabbablabba4073 Жыл бұрын
its only ok when MGS does this no other game can pull this off
@arguekayes Жыл бұрын
My least favorite tutorial games do is make you open inventory or any menus forcing you press each highlighted button that pops up and you can’t progress until you press it.
@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Жыл бұрын
Most recent example of this that I can think of is freaking Ravenbound. So much wasted potential with that game.
@amysel Жыл бұрын
Every mobile game
@sugardoodlez Жыл бұрын
In the recent Garten Of BanBan game the segment where you needed to perform surgery was pretty simple in itself, but BanBan kept talking and talking for a full 1 minute and 47 seconds about the rules (despite a copy of the rules being right in front of us) solely so the game can waste your time in hopes you wouldnt be able to refund the game
@dogeboithedoomslayer Жыл бұрын
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@smells109 Жыл бұрын
three birds with one stone
@oolexer Жыл бұрын
hand over your pancreas
@loaduscoolclipz5505 Жыл бұрын
classic banban gameplay!
@player70477 9 ай бұрын
bro is playing garten of banban
@SirMcPug Жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of pyro for coming out as a hater of game tutorials, no wonder he can't play any game well
@LoverofChildren Жыл бұрын
My biggest tutorial pet peeve is the ones that force you to do the tutorial before you get to do anything else. Gacha games are very guilty of this, in fact I picked up and dropped Dislyte on 3 separate occasions because the tutorial completely restricts the player from doing anything until a good hour or two into the game. The WORST possible thing you can do is completely take away agency from the player, because you've immediately defeated the purpose of a video game. Tutorial or no.
@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Жыл бұрын
Same. I also hate it when games try to weave their tutorials into the game's plot/story and world in a way that doesn't mesh well with it at all and feels like a slog. Monster Hunter World and Rise are really guilty of this, so much so that I haven't made a new character in a long ass time and I still haven't bothered playing through more of Rise.
@goobleron Жыл бұрын
No stop making sense say the funny OneyPlays things spawn of Roach Dogg
@harrydubois6619 Жыл бұрын
So sad to hear about your skill issues, Pyro 😢
@cammyman32 Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@thesavagegummybear7341 Жыл бұрын
It was so hard to watch him fail at the cuphead tutorial for 20 minutes…
@Fbispook Жыл бұрын
Thank you harry dubois, “protagonist” of the hit crpg disco Elysium
@Slashscreen Жыл бұрын
to be fair i could see harry saying this
@fridaythedeerfox2982 Жыл бұрын
The tutorial in portal was some of the most respectful handholding in video game design ever. Because it doesn't feel like game is treating you like an idiot unlike almost all other tutorials.
@offbrandbiscuit Жыл бұрын
If anything it's not even a tutorial because it's just an easy test chamber to show you the basics of what to expect, and then starts giving you harder and harder concepts
@twingolord Жыл бұрын
i mean it kinda treats you like an idiot, but thats just glados being glados
@SirCat07 Жыл бұрын
if you made a game you would be surprised by just how many people dont understand anything and need a tutorial
@twingolord 11 ай бұрын
@@SirCat07 RAAAAAAAAAAA
@fenderstrat9667 Жыл бұрын
Any ideas how to roast Pyro with this title? 🤨
@amazingstudios7889 Жыл бұрын
“Suck” maybe?
@harrydubois6619 Жыл бұрын
@@amazingstudios7889 Formerly Chuck
@SomoneStoleMyName Жыл бұрын
Idk he fell off tho
@javierduque7809 Жыл бұрын
Tutorial drama
@maxkennedy7430 Жыл бұрын
Petscop 2
@HyperKryst Жыл бұрын
Inscryption has a pretty good tutorial. Since on the outside it's a pretty cryptic game, it's easy to be confused about the rules. That's why the first time we are playing the game it shows one mechanic at a time, with a very short explanation. Only the basics are explained, because the game assumes that the player will figure out the intricacies of the system eventually. Not only that, but since it's a roguelike, even if you lose because you didn't fully take advantage of the rules, you will have infinite chances to truly understand the game later down the line.
@Ronald98 Жыл бұрын
This. Inscryption is such a GOOD game and the replay value is insane!
@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Жыл бұрын
Ultrakill does this as well. It tells you only the basics of the mechanics, including when you get new weapons, and then lets you figure the rest out. With how quickly you can get back into the fray, and the fact that there's a whole nearly endless wave fighting gamemode that you can access at any time in the game right from the start, allows for players to test their skills and get better at the game at their own pace.
@goobleron Жыл бұрын
I picked up Inscryption on a sale a few months ago and it is literally the best game I've played in years
@skelebonez1349 Жыл бұрын
@@goobleronthat ending is so damn terrifying tbh- I legit didn’t expect luke carder to end up like that
@goobleron Жыл бұрын
@skelebonez1349 Hey there Card Gamers
@mitchboland9591 Жыл бұрын
This 34 minute Pyro video would be a 5 minute Dunkey video
@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Жыл бұрын
Dunkey still thinks Last of Us Part 2 is a narrative masterpiece, so even though you're right, your opinion is still invalidated.
@tobeymaguire9371 Жыл бұрын
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 someone with an opinion differing mine? *gasp*
@amysel Жыл бұрын
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 malding over someone's opinion
@Ind3xPlus Жыл бұрын
@@tobeymaguire9371 It's fine ti have different opinions, but it's also fine to call someone out if it's bs. Especially when someone calls the last of us 2 a narrative masterpiece, which is just objectively wrong
@alex-qn5xp Жыл бұрын
@@Ind3xPlus How? I loved that game and many other people did too, I don't get the hate at all.
@mosie. Жыл бұрын
thank you pyro for feeding me my daily slop i was starving very badly today but you've saved me again🙏
@xxshockfragzxx4592 Жыл бұрын
Surprising to see that Pyro got a new job as a game journalist, good for you, Pyro!
@Ruby_Mullz Жыл бұрын
A tutorial I like is the one in GTA V. It’s exciting and engaging since it’s introducing u to the characters while doing a heist. It doesn’t blast u with pop ups since u learn by doing not reading. Even 10 years later, every time I restart the story I always have fun just doing the tutorial.
@kingtiger3390 Жыл бұрын
But at the same time it's a chore, because it's lengthy for what amount of stuff it teaches, yet you have barely any control and the stakes are completely non-existent despite intense setup.
@Nekoriz Жыл бұрын
The reason why the game tutorial is so handholding is because people who never play video games really do struggle with it. Even moving with a keyboard and mouse at the same time feels like a mind-boggling system for them
@dorxly Жыл бұрын
the titanfall 2 tutorial was probably the best tutorial I ever played, I remember spending nearly an hour just trying to get the best score possible. the best tutorial is one that doesn't feel like a tutorial
@matthewmason7792 Жыл бұрын
My favourite Tutorial ever is kind of an obvious one for personal reasons. Transformers Fall of Cybertron. In that Tutorial you play as Bumblebee who was knocked out of a shootout on the bridge of an autobot cruiser trying to get off the planet. A crane from the rival ship with Decepticons hellbent to not only keep you in Cybertron’s orbit but are also hellbent on making that the tomb of every autobot on that ship managing to miss barely. You start on the ground with Rachet, the medic checking Bumblebee’s optics which is moving the camera and asking how they are, leading to a prompt asking if the default analog stick controls are satisfactory. After which you managed to shoot a few cons off the bridge and get a message from the one leading the charge… Megatron, the very leader of the Decepticons directing his attention on the autobot leader. Optimus Prime. Claiming that the the ship you’re on will be torn piece by piece before it even has a chance to leave. Prime leaves to lead a counter attack and while that happens you’re tasked with powering the defences after Decepticon forces began their boarding party with an attack on the orbital defences. From here you learn the rest. Dashing and sprinting after the ship takes damage and starts catching fire, air dashes after witnessing random bots that were helping you mercilessly sucked into the void of space after a crane was lodged into the ship and shooting and changing the shooting hand with a gun fight where cons are swarming the defence controls. Hell bent on stopping you getting them back online. In these few short hours of a tutorial mission it gives us a glimpse of how desperate each faction is. We see the carnage and the bloodshed and the determination the Decepticons have to just slaughter you all even after they’ve won control of the planet. It’s more than just a tutorial but a intense fight for survival against a force that won’t stop until it’s wiped out the very remnants of the faction that opposed them. Something that becomes more apparent as the game progresses. All in all… get a Xbox 360, find a hard copy on at CEX or something and play FOC. It’s a fantastic game with some really good story telling, fun gameplay and it’s just good! I’d also recommend the first game War for Cybertron as well.
@Crota0100 Жыл бұрын
Unskippable tutorials also ruin the flow for repeat playthroughs.
@piclebob Жыл бұрын
People make fun of it, but pyro making a 30 minute video from reacting to a 20 minute video is good
@summatim Жыл бұрын
Summary was generated by Summatim, let us know if there are any inaccuracies! 🤖 0:01: Importance of Tutorials and Video Games 2:42: Common Mistakes in Tutorial Design 10:59: Concrete Steps for Good Tutorial Design 12:28: Introduction 13:02: Valve's Minimalism 13:45: Introducing New Mechanics Safely 15:26: Guiding the Player 17:38: Invisibly Seamless Design 19:05: Designing within the Context of Narrative 20:49: Gaming Literacy 23:30: Generally Agreed Upon Standards 23:56: Subverting Expectations 24:22: Conclusion 29:27: Introduction to tutorial design 24:57: Using level design to teach mechanics 28:00: Examples of games with unique tutorials 29:29: Importance of player familiarity 27:16: Designing starting areas with difficulty in mind 24:32: Examples of bad tutorials
@wolfgraphics2003 Жыл бұрын
The whole "squint your eyes" explanation is actually a trick used by Logo designers to make sure their logos stand out.
@CrokedBlueCreeper101 Жыл бұрын
These reasons are part of the reason I love the Yakuza series. The tutorials are a little card of knowledge briefly and succinctly showing you available punching combos while not actually pausing the action. It does have you try out different moves before progressing, but with the no pause in between, it doesn't disrupt momentum and it doesn't feel like the game is trying to hinder you. At the end of the tutorial the game just lets you go to town on enemies with everything it taught you. Throughout those tutorials, you're never stopped by pop-ups and it's not hand holdy to the point where it teaches you how to walk. Just teaches you some basic attack patterns and keybinds, then leaves you alone.
@dangergran2566 Жыл бұрын
peakuza yet again, although 0 having tutorials for each style pisses me off with every replay
@maxwellpaynewell5305 11 ай бұрын
And then on the flipside, almost every major minigame in the series has a horrible MANDATORY tutorial you can't skip even on replay, and rarely do they actually introduce the minigame well. Yakuza 4 doesn't help at all with styling your hostess, Yakuza 0 babies you through one round of business and doesn't explain any of the intricacies, and Yakuza 7 dumps pages of paragraphs and infographics on you for the business management and just hopes you absorbed all that (And does it AGAIN for the shareholders meetings). It shocks me how fluid the combat tutorials are, just for them to drop the ball every time with the side modes.
@c-love6753 10 ай бұрын
@@maxwellpaynewell5305 Fucking noodle minigame and taxi in 5. Goddamn
@krimsonklaww611 Жыл бұрын
The tutorial in Warframe is pretty good. Anything it tries to teach you is just displayed as white text stuck to the level itself, so you can just keep going and it never abruptly stops you, and lets you experiment what all the buttons do.
@Tempest2357 Жыл бұрын
The most unique tutorial I’ve had was from Rainworld. The game literally tell you nothing but the basic controls(basically wasd and 3 action buttons) and then leave you alone for the rest of the game for you to explore
@Skye_Blue Жыл бұрын
18:40 Ha. I actually grew up having to use inverted controls. It was the only way I could play. Then one day, as an adult, my brain just had a moment where it was like, "Who can actually play like this?" So now, I can't play inverted anymore.
@marijnvanderlugt7120 Жыл бұрын
Technically before the 5 years he mentions, but i think Titanfall 2 has a pretty good tutorial to show the basics, which is easily skipped within a few seconds if you know what you're doing.
@zwitie3455 Жыл бұрын
the tutorial is also really fun
@CrokedBlueCreeper101 Жыл бұрын
So proud of you Pyro. You managed to extend a video's runtime by 1.6x instead of 2x
@Coldsteak Жыл бұрын
the pseudo intellectual game design essayist hole is a super deep one
@Cam-on2jw Жыл бұрын
the quarry approached pop up tutorials in an interesting way that I didn't mind; they would play little 20-second long cartoons at certain points in the game that fit the aesthetic, and they would prepare you for what you were about to have to do. A game like that where you really can't afford to mess up, I thought it was pretty cool. Good video
@flakproof Жыл бұрын
I believe games should be intuitive like in the first Super Mario Bros The first level is literally designed to learn the controls
@AnyBerlinWall Жыл бұрын
Pyro has such game journalist game sense he's starting to hate tutorial AI for shooting back, we've lost him boys. It's over.
@StupidNSimplesns Жыл бұрын
I feel like every pyrolive video is a disappointment because the title and thumbnail makes it seem like its gonna be Pyro talking about a subject but its just a 30 second intro and then the rest is him watching someone else's content.
@valentina1219 7 ай бұрын
Pyro struggling to say slalom was the funniest part of the video. He just nonchalantly calls it solomon and salmon lol
@NickDerMitHut Жыл бұрын
Sonic Frontiers does that with the abilities on the skill tree and loading into a room where you can try them, I really quite liked that
@ms.dr3amer Жыл бұрын
I think the Hitman:Woa tutorials are very interesting in that regard. In the first game you have a classic tutorial, but it also ties into the story and you need it becuase it's the first game of the trilogy. In the second game they give you an easy target and you even have a "prep time" where you can mess around, set up things, interact with the map so if that's your entry point to the trilogy that's fine, but if it's the second game you play it then it makes for a good first level to get introduced to the new mechanics. You can also replay it and experiment and the challanges only encourage it, teaching you different elimination/guard takedown methods, how to use items to your advantage. I really enjoyed it and didn't feel like a tutorial. The third game just throws you into the action right away lmao.
@purplebatdragon Жыл бұрын
5:18 JRPGS: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that."
@noobicus727 Жыл бұрын
A simple solution for this problem is just for game devs to ask if you want to play the tutorial first
@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk did a lot of things wrong, but it handled tutorials well. You're just asked if you want to do a tutorial or not.
@CoolLookinPea Жыл бұрын
“Would you like to do the tutorial?” “No” *ten minutes later “WHAT DOES ANY OF THIS MEAN WHAT AM I DOING!?!?” I get the point though, the forced tutorials are annoying
@nolives Жыл бұрын
@@CoolLookinPeasure that might happen for like .0001 percent of games breaking grounds creating a new genre, but you dont need a fps tutorial. In fact id argue most games can be learned without a tutorial and would feel more rewarding finding out things you didnt know before.
@Jashua- Жыл бұрын
I have watched many people, especially streamers, skip tutorials just to complain about controls/mechanics later on.
@PosterityIslesNews Жыл бұрын
@@nolives I've seen so many letsplayers struggling to understand basic mechanics because they skipped a tutorial, its so maddening
@OfficialAlfiethegamer Жыл бұрын
Every time I see a game have a tutorial it makes me think that the developer thinks that I have never played a video game in my life
@htsunmiku Жыл бұрын
They basically have to because to someone out there....the game is their first. So they need to implement a choice to skip tuts. That's all.
@Amodh1257 Жыл бұрын
At some point in your life, you played your very first video game. Now imagine if it had absolutely NO tutorials. I could imagine me as a toddler bashing my head against the keyboard until something finally worked cuz I didn't know what wasd was. Not fun.
@chainsawplayin Жыл бұрын
@@Amodh1257 Back in the day you had a manual that explained almost everything you needed to know.
@Amodh1257 Жыл бұрын
@@chainsawplayin haha or if you're unlucky and your parents didn't bring the manual with the game, you'd load up a wiki on dial up, it'd take 40 years and you'd come out the other side with 50 browser bars and at least 3 strains of spyware
@harrydubois6619 Жыл бұрын
I think you need to remember that people like Darksydephil exist in this world
@basedamogus Жыл бұрын
Pyro resisting the urge to title this video. Video game toturials are finished. Im so proud if him
@jayfolk Жыл бұрын
Killer7: square to run down rail-shooter track, X to aim down sight, R2 to fire fps, *Right Stick* any direction to reload the gun.
@PowderedToastMan3 Жыл бұрын
Worse than tutorials is the “slowly walk behind friendly NPC for 10 minutes to receive exposition dump” parts.
@dan18503 Жыл бұрын
This is so random but i love how they put one of Aunty Donna's sketch as an example at 5:49. They're my favorite comedy group 🤣
@lankthedank6931 Жыл бұрын
The worst tutorial for me was when it literally only linked a video on KZfaq.
@dayumdoesyt.222 Жыл бұрын
11:04 I like how he questions the edm like he wasnt vibing
@davidcastillo4141 Жыл бұрын
Love that doom 2016 just gave you a gun as soon as the first cutscene
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas Жыл бұрын
Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga’s tutorials are so straightforward in explaining the gameplay yet provide just the right amount of information “One action costs one icon, striking weakness or landing a critical hit costs half an icon, missing or getting blocked costs two icons, and repelled or drained attacks end your turn. The same is true for the enemy”
@Prenz01 Жыл бұрын
As a jr dev we are taught to put in tutorials because of actually brain ded people asking for refunds Because of this in all the game i work on tutorial wise i just put text on walls
@commisaryarreck3974 Жыл бұрын
So you make them for gaming journalists?
@Professor_Rock Жыл бұрын
That driving game tutorial looks like the hardest tutorial to anyone not familiar with anything in driving games holy hell.
@SapphireCarbuncle009 Жыл бұрын
12:30 minimal tutorial pop up also made for my personal favorite tutorial, "Press Space to Say 'Apple'"
@dpet7756 Жыл бұрын
The piggies have been fed, thank you Pyro
@Mr_Tux794 Жыл бұрын
I've been a big fan of video game design channels like Mental Checkpoint, Design Doc, and Game Makers Toolkit. Hope you stream more of those vids. You don't seem like a fighting game player, but channels going over fighting game design are very good too
@Micchi- Жыл бұрын
I recommend adam millard - the architect of games to add to your collection
@saturnmedia1 Жыл бұрын
I think Titanfall 2’s tutorial is really good. They put you right into the gauntlet to learn.
@edsainmuramasa4751 Жыл бұрын
here's a thought- you're playing the first level, train about to hit you, qte activates, x - dodge. in 3 seconds time, you saw a cutscene, did something cool, learned the dodge button. qte's could be used as tutorials instead of padding
@chandlerfrantz3140 Жыл бұрын
Is that why Toriel is named Toriel? I always assumed it was just a play on Taurus, since she’s… You know, a cow.
@jod422 Жыл бұрын
What if a game recognised how quickly you got the controls? Like if you moved around immediately then it wouldn’t give you anything, and if you didn’t and still didn’t after seeing hints you would get a popup
@xomyakify Жыл бұрын
you know a person lives in a bubble when they say the number of people who never played video games is small
@Santropez219 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's not as bad as being exposed for what happend when pyro played tf2 on a certain day
@crispy6686 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the The binding of Isaac style where it's basically "Here are the controls, now fuck off."
@OmarShtaiwi_ Жыл бұрын
LMAO, what are the odds of the editor choosing Sonic Heros as an example when I just got the CD for it along side Sonic R from some archive. Too good.
@spacecowboy7568 Жыл бұрын
The best tutorial ever is the tutorial world for Minecraft on the Xbox 360. Shit slapped hard. The first, second, and third versions. They all fuckin slapped.
@declanmillar6356 Жыл бұрын
Modern Warfare 1 & 2 had the tutorial/shoot house intro level But by the third game they just accepted you knew how a fps game worked and just threw you into the game sans-tutorial
@SonOfAGunYYH Жыл бұрын
*black screen, hissing noise* "RPG!!!!"
@amcandy2359 Жыл бұрын
I am actually wondering about what people think about the Sonic Frontiers Tutorials. They give you pop ups pretty frequently at the beginning, they give you a prompt for tips during battles that is optional, between every level, they provide movement combo tutorials and whenever you unlock a skill, they put you in a room to try it out. I personally dont mind this butbof course i want to know what other think.
@skelebonez1349 Жыл бұрын
I find them interesting, although yeah I think maybe some things could’ve been done better to be not pop ups, As pyro said himself I see it as a necessary evil as annoyint as that can be soemtimes. I haven’t finsihed the game yet tho? On the last island. So far I’d give it a 8.5 outta ten partially because of how the characters are actually alive in this and not dull like in sonic forces
@Armetzger Жыл бұрын
The perfect tutorial in my eyes would be one where the game pauses ONCE. And asks "Hey, this is a shooter, many mechanics from previous shooters also apply here. With that in mind, would you like to: A. Teach you the fundamentals from the beggining of how a shooter works. B. Ignore the fundamentals, but add indicators for game-specific features. C. Show you the button layout and do not show any pop ups. Note: This can be changed in the 'Gameplay' Settings at any time, there is also a copy of the button layout". There, the perfect tutorial
@paintedpig3021 Жыл бұрын
I refuse to sit through another tutorial on how to catch a pokemon
@cuuurlyfries5246 Жыл бұрын
The Minecraft Xbox edition tutorial will always be the best tutorial we can all remember.
@Eyezonyouu Жыл бұрын
“Giz of war” - Pyro
@multi.instrumentalist Жыл бұрын
The Driver parking lot scene is not a tutorial. There is a separate tutorial in the game. People always make this mistake and it kind of bugs me. In Driver San Francisco Wii, there was also a parking lot level, and that WAS a tutorial, but the original one wasn’t. Also everyone who ever mentions the “tutorial” also mentions how they don’t know what a slalom is, which I personally l think is a pretty low bar not to reach.
@BabyCocoMan Жыл бұрын
18:45 hearing this guy say he made move or die was crazilly unexpected
@dantonfallen4570 Жыл бұрын
Of course those Pokémon Go players all grouped up to catch the Vaporeon.
@L0tss Жыл бұрын
Red Dead 2 is probably one of my favorite examples of a good game tutorial, because it jumps you right into the story and teaches you how to play without breaking the fourth wall in any way, and it gradually teaches you, rather than jumping straight into the entire UI.
@ReinBelmont Жыл бұрын
31:35 "Driver has one of the worst tutorials in the whole game" -Pyro having a stroke
@unoriginalperson72 Жыл бұрын
Tutorials are becoming increasingly more obsolete as pretty much everyone and their grandma knows how to play a videogame
@jackofastora8962 Жыл бұрын
“Don’t give players a choice to skip or play the tutorial” 1 minute later “Give players a choice to not do the tutorial”
@Ven0m.snak3 Жыл бұрын
My favorite type of tutorial is the ones where they just have it as a small box in the corner of the screen. It doesn’t mess with your flow, it just tells you surface level info in the corner during the first level
@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 Жыл бұрын
Ultrakill has some text pop up on the screen whenever you get a new utility/weapon or come across an area where you have to do a certain movement technique that you didn't have to do before in order to progress through the game's campaign. Quick, to the point, and doesn't pause the game.
@janemba42 Жыл бұрын
The best tutorials are organic. Naturally nudging the player to do things through environmental or story elements.
@revanne2028 Жыл бұрын
The Mario troll block is probably from a Kaizo rom hack or mario maker level, they're basically super hard levels that also have alot of troll blocks and softlocks
@FZone96Official Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite type of Tutorials with pause screens, when you already perform an advanced move, by the time the game is supposed to teach you about this move it just won't pause to teach you anymore. But they should still blend in the button prompt to notify player about the initial usage of these moves, otherwise they could get stuck improvising just to figure out how to proceed.
@nickylag3912 Жыл бұрын
The virgin Fallout 3 with 30 min of tutorial and the chad New Vegas releasing you into the open world with no tutorial
@redstreak9430 Жыл бұрын
Zoom Zike did a good video about how good a tutorial City Escape from SA2 was. I know it’s notorious for introducing Omochao which is the poster child for intrusive tutorials like you alluded to at the beginning but if you can resist the temptation to bump into him, the level itself basically shows you how to do everything with how the level is set up, be it homing attacks, tricks, spin dashing/somersaulting and even grinding. I recommend checking it out if you haven’t seen it
@supermutant963 Жыл бұрын
They should add a "Skip tutorials" option before starting a new game because most controls are common sense today
@deadspace4755 Жыл бұрын
It is simple, it is all connected back to "show visually, not use text". Visual more, not text more. Be subtle, not obvious. Show, don't tell.
@alfosisepic 3 ай бұрын
12:51 I didn't really have this w/ Half-Life: Alyx, it would tell me how to do really basic things half way into the game. Like hold right trigger down to move over gaps.
@SenpaiSamaKun Жыл бұрын
I think a good example of a scaling mechanics to learn is Hi Fi Rush actually. It straight up doesn't tell or give you half the stuff you need to work to a thematic level. Like assists, hard timed hits to activate finishers in the first place (Beat Hits), using your arm as a grappling hook, dodging to the beat to cancel the recovery and do it three times, super moves, and such aren't upgrades, they're all relevant assets of combat that allow you to perfectly do every encounter on instinct than knowledge. But the Production and Quality Assurance arc just restricts you from using all of them as you're likely to just mash for a bit. Only by Rekka herself and then the very humorous first run through Development does it ramp up. Also the whole thing is a satire on corporate development. Like the overly zealous manchild director, the draconian management, the gaslight friendly marketing, etc.
@TrueTrickster2016 Жыл бұрын
You know what franchise has super annoying tutorials? The mainline Pokémon games. Game Freak doesn't add a option to skip tutorials for adults that played their games since 1996.
@Legoguy9875 Жыл бұрын
I think one of my favorite "tutorials" I've played is the one in Hollow Knight - it does briefly visualize what buttons to press for actions, but it never interrupts you to say "Press this to do this, then use that to do this." The game encourages you to experiment with the controls as you learn them, and even rewards you - in one room, there's a long pit of spikes that you can't cross with normal methods, as there are no platforms to jump to and your normal jump doesn't give you enough horizontal distance. Most players will think to just turn back and return to this area once they have either a double jump or a dash, but more observant players will be familiar with how the melee attack causes you to bounce away from whatever you strike, and thus will test if the spikes can be bounced off of as well. By doing this, not only do they learn that you can bounce safely on spikes for as long as they can time their melee swings, but they're rewarded with a strong early-game item. Learning this trick early on is especially useful because it becomes an essential tool for some of the more treacherous obstacle courses and boss fights (and is even _required_ for the optional Path of Pain sequence)
@blitzkreiger3395 Жыл бұрын
The worst offender for game tutorials has to be monster hunter
@patrickmalone566 Жыл бұрын
My favorite game tutorials are the ones where the "use the control stick to move" prompt is several steps away from where you start.
@DrXaiver Жыл бұрын
Played Armored Core 1 recently and they give no introduction, after the intro cutscene they throw you into an arena fight with no explanation on the controls and it felt more fun than any tutorial I've played
@S_Murus Жыл бұрын
N64 superman looks like one of those bad mobile games
@JuliaWAE Жыл бұрын
Arin(egoraptor) explained this like 10 years ago...
@Mel-nw2ko Жыл бұрын
Another reason why putting the choice, of playing the tutorial or not, is not bad is because if your game has replay value it would suck playing the tutorial on every playthrough.
@kenny187ful Жыл бұрын
Alright, Pyro, let's get through this slop, I got a General Sam video to go enjoy.
@scarfbit7354 Жыл бұрын
People shat on dark souls for not having a tutorial, then shat on the elden ring tutorial for pauseing the game.
@user-ix2tc4yb6v Жыл бұрын
The video has just started and I already wanted to say that Mental Checkpoint has a video on this exact topic. And 10 seconds later I see Pyro watching this exact video
@MrSignmeout Жыл бұрын
the only people using inverted controls are airplane pilots "god i love flying a plane but the plane is just some guy"
@DatPenguin97 Жыл бұрын
31:45 bro never heard of Gran Tourismo licenses
@thesalmonorchestra651 Жыл бұрын
Pyro, it’s not the game’s fault you can’t pass the cuphead tutorial, it just comes with your job as a game developer
@SolidusRyd Жыл бұрын
video: popup during tutorial is not good Pyro: BUT ITS GOOD FOR SKILL TREES NOOOOOOO Birmingham brain right there
@crickcrackcricketycrack5501 Жыл бұрын
Hello, ex-inverted look (y axis) psychopath here. Ridiculous reason why I used to play with inverted controls was my favourite game had it on by default and I was too young to know to change it so I had to learn to play that way. Eventually I got used to it and when I found out you could switch, I just turned it on in other games rather than change it on my favourite. Eventually I realised how stupid that was and went back to default. I believe the control originated from Flying and piloting games where the joysticks were inverted. It depends on how you image an eye ball rotating. Normal controls you imagine looking up is pushing up. But inverted you image the logical movement that an eye ball to look up, you'd need to pull down from the back which would be you moving it down in order for it to look up. It's really hard to explain without visuals but that's the gist of it.
@notaulgoodman9732 Жыл бұрын
I think half the things I learn about games comes from the loading screen tips. Tutorials never taught me r3 did something, the tips did.