Games that are Locked Behind Knowledge
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Күн бұрынLife feels a little emptier after knowing that the first playthrough of a Knowledge-Based Game is gone forever.
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Typically, games rely on skill-based challenges with strategic decision making in real time. Progress is tied to defeating enemies or overcoming physical obstacles.
But there's another way to progress, that's less about new tools and more about new ideas. Instead of obtaining an item or ability to interact with the world differently, the game reveals possibilities you didn't even know existed.
00:00 Experiment and Engage
00:51 Knowledge-Based Games
02:34 A Mysterious Well
04:51 A Clockwork Universe
08:51 Game Literacy
10:21 A Cruel Ecosystem
13:17 The Recipe Book
14:36 Multiple Layers
16:40 A Forgotten Civilization
20:46 You Can Only Play Once
23:04 The Hidden Layers
25:06 Life is Emptier Now
Potential Spoilers
At no point in this video do I give away the solution to a puzzle. There are examples of outcomes and the setup, but the "Epiphany" moment will never be shown. Most footage is from the first hour of each game.
Outer Wilds: First 22 minutes of the game are spoiled.
Animal Well: Mid-game and Late-game areas are shown. Outcomes of late-game puzzles are discussed, but how to solve them is not.
Tunic: Early game and first boss.
Rain World: Some late game areas are shown, but no details on their enemies or environments and how to traverse them.
Footage shown: Animal Well, Outer Wilds, Tunic, Rain World, Hollow Knight, Planet of Lana, Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree, Super Mario Wonder, The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild & Tears of the Kingdom, Risk of Rain 2, Dredge, Subnautica, Soma, Signalis, Baba is You, Chants of Sennaar, Minecraft.
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@PaddeeBA 9 күн бұрын
Ngl I clicked on the video because I thought the thumbnail said „there are monkeys“, but the video still kept me engaged, even when I realized that there weren't going to be any monkeys
@CosmicHours 9 күн бұрын
The best kind of unintentional clickbait
@bakacdaz 9 күн бұрын
Half hour video about the games with monkey would be hilarious though lol.
@rainy8113 8 күн бұрын
3:23
@PaddeeBA 7 күн бұрын
@@rainy8113 The possibility of more more monkeys is what kept me engaged Nah but yeah, coulda worded my comment better
@Kazooples 6 күн бұрын
Same 😭
@leopallas5751 21 күн бұрын
I laughed when you described the tutorial of Outer Wilds so well, knowing that you completely ignored it in your first playthrough 😂
@WackoMcGoose 13 күн бұрын
You're not _truly_ an Outer Wilds explorer until you've forgotten to put your suit on before exiting the ship (the lockout timer on the door is _exactly_ long enough to ensure you can't get back in before you suffocate). Even NerdCubed, who landed perfectly on Hollow's Lantern first try, ended his loop not in lava, but in lack of air...
@jacobmartin7434 11 күн бұрын
I jusy ignored that part of the video because I really want to go fresh into that gane
@armandostockvideos8386 10 күн бұрын
I didn't ignore it but I kept crashing my ship anyways.
@jassykat 8 күн бұрын
not me, I spent an entire hour before jumping into my ship.
@fist_lorderino 9 күн бұрын
Rain World have a hidden knowledge that a lot of people miss entirely when playing it for the first time. "The movement system" is just that insane, it's just like that one Hollow Knight exemple to climb the ledge. It unlock new ways to see and interact with the environement and creatures.
@oDiablo 6 күн бұрын
You need to see my face when I discovered I can throw a bar below me to increase height
@scarletandciara 4 күн бұрын
Me and a friend were playing rainworld at some point, and got, . . . Kinda lost- And ended up in SUBTERRANEAN Before we ever got to Moon or Pebbles, that was A terrifying realization-
@Javifaa 4 күн бұрын
I think it's easier to list stuff that isn't hidden knowledge in that game. Besides the most basic shit, the tutorial tells you almost nothing, you need to experiment on your own.
@Harbin_07 10 сағат бұрын
@@JavifaaThat is the point of knoaledge based games
@Javifaa 8 сағат бұрын
@@Harbin_07 No shit Sherlock. I was pointing out the movement tech of the game is just on par with everything else. And in case you didn't know, that shit is insane. In fact, more knowledge based games should include hidden movement tech, it just fits the kind of game they are.
@kaporal890 13 күн бұрын
That's because your cat is an NPC! mine is a main protag, he have multiple line of dialogue. ha have a meow that say "gimme food", another that say "gimme food IMMEDIATELY !" , another that ask for me to open the window and another that say "Yes ,i'm actually standing on your keyboard".
@hybridanimus6412 12 күн бұрын
You mentioned three of my favorite games! Rain World, Outer Wilds, and Animal Well. If I could go back to the confusion, wonder, and frustration I felt on my first play through of Rain World, I would. And the ending of Outer Wilds made me cry, it was so sad and beautiful and hopeful all at the same time. Animal well is purely vibes.
@Sir_Steven 19 күн бұрын
The first game that came to my mind upon reading the title is Noita. Noita is a 2D roguelike where every pixel in the world is simulated. The game begins with you waking up in front of a cave entrance and there are some rocks that show you the basic controls. That's all the help the game gives you. At first it looks like your goal is to go down through all the levels until you reach the bottom, but if you decide to explore outside of the intended path, you quickly realize there is SO much more to the world then what first meets the eye. The game is all about exploration, experimentation and gathering knowledge. There's basically no meta progression, as everything can be obtained on your very first run if you know where to go and what to do. You don't become stronger because you played a lot and unlocked a bunch of stuff. You become stronger because you learned the world's secrets and intricacies. You understand spells and how to build powerful wands. You know the strenghts and weaknesses of the enemies you encounter. Once you know enough about the game, it goes from an extremely challenging roguelike to a wizard sandbox. In my opinion Noita is the textbook example of "Games that are Locked Behind Knowledge".
@Cyberian_Khatru 15 күн бұрын
I love how everytime I think I've know the limits of Noita, I discover a new lens to see the world through. Like, there's a case to be made for being able to beat a 33 orb boss without ever stepping into a holy mountain. You can play the game as a base builder, pixel art included. You can make all types of farms, you can make freakin fish engines. I am now convinced the limits of noita far surpass those of minecraft, but it's just not handholdy and a bit too unforgiving to break into mass appeal.
@niyo919 8 күн бұрын
But the thumbnail says there are no keys, and Noita has green keys. Checkmate athiests.
@Random-oy7vk 8 күн бұрын
Im going to search it
@theresnothinghere1745 6 күн бұрын
I would argue Noita is fundementally different. Noita isn't built for a single player to explore and learn the world through natural exploration, not in the same vein that Outer wilds and Animal well (at least at the beggining) are. Noita is built for a community to do so. This is evident from how unlike Outerwilds and Animal well which frequently use level design to hint at mechanics, Noita doesn't infact many of Noita's secrets are so hidden you won't expect the average player to find them. That's because they aren't for the average player to find but for one of many players to do so and let the word of mouth spread through a community. Take for example the means to create Lively Concoction, there isn't a means to discover this at all except by trial and error. Something that could very well not happen in a noticable manner to lone player at all. Personally that's why I ended up disliking Noita and the latter end of Animal well compared to the other games. Even if I had searched out the community when I found them to get involved with the community scale puzzles, most of them had already been solved (though Noita still has a few ongoing ones) and I've missed out on the experience by the time I bought the game.
@xcorr77 2 күн бұрын
Sometimes Noita is locked behind a hiisi that grabbed a random nuke wand
@DreamLogic26 7 күн бұрын
Gotta love that Animal Well is item progression labeled as knowledge progression for some reason
@BeHappyTo 11 сағат бұрын
because the items have "secret" uses
@jassykat 8 күн бұрын
Rain World is one of the most profound games I've ever played, from both a gameplay and narrative standpoint.
@xicufwm 8 күн бұрын
3:06 "understanding these creatures is crucial for navigating the environment and making your way to the OTTER side of a room"
@shieldgenerator7 11 күн бұрын
i want to mention The Witness because it also has a deeper layer that you can only find by exploring the world
@FireheadLazzo 4 күн бұрын
7:30 As a member of the Outer Wilds Cult of Esoteric Knowledge, I was really worried you were about to divulge the first big mystery. But you didn't. Thank you.
@AaronElWhite 12 күн бұрын
Fantastic video and really grateful at how you managed to avoid spoilers for the most part, but very disappointed that you straight up played that special secret in Animal Well that I had no idea even existed. It's one thing to talk about its existence and even hint at how it might be discoverable, but another entirely to just play the video of it. Robbed of that surprise forever. :(
@quarreneverett4767 6 күн бұрын
Yeah when it comes to games you don't want spoiled. I recomend any videos and discussion video including it.
@ianmurphy7460 20 күн бұрын
Void Stranger. Enough said.
@ttme1234 18 күн бұрын
came here to say this
@raydin9485 14 күн бұрын
cannot recommend it enough
@roikukorominet4441 10 күн бұрын
Yep
@zeldalux3220 9 күн бұрын
Yessss
@AmaiarAiramand 4 күн бұрын
It totally deserves more recognition. It's a hidden gem that passes over most people's heads simply because of the initial gameplay style
@CreatrixTiara 18 күн бұрын
Heaven’s Vault is an information game I really love! You’re a linguist archaeologist trying to puzzle through the truth about your civilisation by translating ancient scripts and knowing how to talk to people to get the info you need.
@bat_nick 16 күн бұрын
it's the job of every heaven's vault player to show the amazing game to every people they meet 🙌 , I love that game so much!
@essneyallen6777 15 күн бұрын
Yessss more people need to talk about this game!!
@stevesan 14 күн бұрын
You should use spoiler warnings man, like before the hollow knight trick
@CreatrixTiara 12 күн бұрын
@@stevesan nothing I said is a spoiler, it's literally the premise of the game
@catalystyt6687 20 күн бұрын
i love that you mentioned tunic its actually so good
@CosmicHours 20 күн бұрын
I was extremely happy the game manages to surprise you with the manual in both the first hour and the 10th hour, but to keep it as spoiler free as possible I didn't want to mention any specifics
@firekirby123 14 күн бұрын
@@CosmicHours I think my favorite aspect of Tunic is how, through sheer experimentation, one could theoretically beat the entire game without collecting even a single page of the manual. In my own playthrough, I actually learned about the "Golden Cross" *significantly* earlier than the game expected, simply based on which manual pages I was _missing._ I did my best to avoid sequence breaking too hard, but as is the case in these kinds of games, once you learn the rules, you start to see the places you can apply it *everywhere.*
@mixingcat5213 5 күн бұрын
@@firekirby123I saw some other streamer who got that forbidden knowledge too early by some guy watching that stream. It was painful, but he was still surprised by other secrets tunic held.
@bakacdaz 12 күн бұрын
Zero Escape : Zero TIme Dilemma also has something almost similar to this concept. The true end only unlocked by Typing in the real name of real mastermind. And only way to do that is get most of another endings
@user-xl8pr2cu9d 3 күн бұрын
Hmm, then AI:Somnium Files NA would count as one too?
@SnapdragonSK Күн бұрын
They're both by the same guy (Uchikoshi) and the concept shows up in a lot of his works, so I'd say yes! Virtue's Last Reward is, imo, one of the best set up examples of knowledge progression gameplay in the visual novel/puzzle game format
@megaing1322 13 күн бұрын
The by far purest example of this I have seen is Toki Tori 2 (*not* 1): The only "upgrade" you ever receive is your reward for 100% the game. Everything else is pure knowledge gain.
@ahmadrh1386 17 күн бұрын
For a second i thought the thumbnail said" THERE ARE MONKEYS" thinking it's a gameplay video of rain world 😂
@WolfyRagnarok 10 күн бұрын
Omg I just commented the same thing, lol.
@ceithless 3 күн бұрын
same
@thegoat9219 21 күн бұрын
This has to be by far my favorite genre. I like to call it metroidbtania and it can imclude all genres of game which are very fun to explore
@CosmicHours 21 күн бұрын
I love these type of games but I tried to avoid calling them Metroidbrainias in this video because it would appropriately describe Animal Well, but a game like Outer Wilds has no upgrades, no progression system, no combat, etc. to make it fit under the same umbrella.
@AugustRx 20 күн бұрын
metro what now
@thegoat9219 20 күн бұрын
@@AugustRx typo it was supposed to be metroidbrainia
@katie-ampersand 20 күн бұрын
@@CosmicHourshuh, I feel oppositely, I think Animal Well does not fit the Metroidbrainia label because it has upgrades to the player and a set progression system, whereas Outer Wilds does fit it
@Enlightenment0172 19 күн бұрын
@katie-ampersand Animal Well has layers. I'd say that while it's first layer of collecting the core items and flames, the remaining three layers of post-game material better fit this metroidbrainia tag
@LadyPickl 21 күн бұрын
Animal well seems so interesting
@fartgarfunkeljr 20 күн бұрын
It really really iiiiiiis!
@xander4357 13 күн бұрын
It's sooooo good
@infinitesimalphilip1470 11 күн бұрын
It definitely is. I honestly think it deserves game of the year, though I know it probably won’t get it.
@riri-hj9by 9 күн бұрын
i refunded it its flaws outweigh its potential
@princesssoybean 4 күн бұрын
@@riri-hj9byWhat did you think was flawed? I don’t think I’ll get the game as I suck at the genre but it does look really good.
@najpotenicewolf934 7 күн бұрын
I feel like Tunic may perfectly capture the feeling from my childhood of playing games in language you don't know. I remember playing Pokemon Firered in english (there was no official Polish translation available) and struggling...a lot. But it was still fun and exciting to actually figure out a mechanic without clear instructions.
@princesssoybean 4 күн бұрын
Lmao I did that with animal crossing. I would annoy my parents by asking to translate everything X3
@TrebleNotes 5 күн бұрын
This really reminds me of my first time experiencing The Witness. There was no "game guide" or a person telling you the basics of each new mechanic. But instead, each new symbol you would come across which had its own rule would slowly reveal its mechanic through experimenting and studying what solved each puzzle. Soon the puzzles not only show you how to solve the game, but they give you a brand new perspective as a whole new part of the game is revealed.
@casualsatanist5808 19 күн бұрын
A game that truly encapsulates the phrase "Knowledge is Power" is that of a game called *Noita* To keep it short, cuz I could go on gor an hour about this game, this game is a journey from feeling overwhelmed and scared, to coming closer to being a god than in any other game. And the only difference between the two is understanding. This game, its secrets and interactions are so vast that even after 700 hours and having 100% the game a while ago, im still learning new things every other run.
@matthewanderson7824 18 күн бұрын
I tried to get into the game but couldn’t. I made it as far down as the ice lab area but can’t get further. I’ve been to the pyramids and to the edges of the world but still haven’t learned much. I think I’m not getting something but I don’t know what that would be
@casualsatanist5808 18 күн бұрын
@@matthewanderson7824 youre most likely just not being patient and taking your time, and trying to test spells and interactions.
@aleafmusic1681 16 күн бұрын
Yessss Noita!
@otamatonefan8996 12 күн бұрын
@@matthewanderson7824 curiosity is Noita's strongest driving point, and understanding things goes hand in hand with your chances of success. You could find every location, but without experimenting and understanding, so many tools and useful things will lie just out of reach, or even sit in your hand waiting for a good use that may never happen, even if all it might take is holding the item and going near something or dropping it at something Many things can be understood when you piece together bits of info you find. Even Wand-Building is the same, every bit of info you learn when experimenting all adds up and later will help you know what to look for, and how to piece together the parts of a good tool you want.
@benjamincoco8602 13 күн бұрын
Fear and Hunger very much embodies knowledge is key(it has very serious and adult content in it as a warning), it is brutal and unforgiving to a new player. But, to someone like Frapollo94 who has mastered the mechanics and lore the dungeon becomes a playground even in the most difficult challenges.
@AXAXAXAYt 13 күн бұрын
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING RAINWORLD!!
@anders8204 15 күн бұрын
I hope we'll get more Knowledge based games like Tunic (Legend of Secrets), Outer Wilds and Animal Well.
@MageSkeleton 18 күн бұрын
i noticed a severe lack of Myst. i love these types of games, and i love seeing them speedrunned. The one thing that bothers me about Animal Well that you didn't cover was how it was inherently designed with population in mind. Imagine playing such a game for the first time, and having potentially limited or no use of the internet. You would be left with a puzzle that can only be solved with "brute force."
@Kaytsey 14 күн бұрын
Myst is just a badly aged puzzle game. Nothing knowledge based about it, apart from the shortcut straight to the end.
@AnOliviaShapedGremlin 13 күн бұрын
@@Kaytsey Its sequel Riven might have been a better example (Though not the remake unfortunately)
@quarreneverett4767 6 күн бұрын
What do yiu mean population and internet. You mean outside guides or an online mechanic
@RigorTortoise22 20 күн бұрын
The Spelunky games may also fit into this genre. Of course nearly all the secrets have been found in the first game, but it took years for people to figure out how deep it went. I believe Spelunky 2 has some secrets still uncovered by the community
@Seoul_Soldier 13 күн бұрын
I love these games but I hate that they can only truly be experienced once.
@bat_nick 21 күн бұрын
This video really is an upgrade from the last ones, good job!
@marcospe2468 15 күн бұрын
One of the best in this genre is Toki Tori 2. The graphics make it seem like it's for kids but the puzzles are super complex and make you think outside the box with tools you learn along the way.
@lukamarinkovic5148 13 күн бұрын
LOVE toki tori 2 !!
@joshuaeng7396 21 күн бұрын
Yo this video is incredibly well made, nice job!
@ocara5906 20 күн бұрын
2:06 riebeck on GD is so cursed
@Atlessa 11 күн бұрын
Right? I had to rewind to make sure I hadn't blinked and missed a cut.
@noahpilarski 9 күн бұрын
lol I wonder where that footage is from
@BinExis 4 күн бұрын
@@noahpilarski that's from the trailer.
@nanashialfarr Күн бұрын
12:55 The red lizards want to have a word with you sir, they're terrified of green lizards, green lizards are strong against the APEX of the lizards hahaha.
@shroomer3867 20 күн бұрын
Another game which kinda does this is Space Station 13/14. It's based on a round system of 1hr or more. Each round restarts progress, but the more knowledge you have the more you can do in those rounds.
@fractalgem 17 күн бұрын
All hail lord singulo!
@gabrielyepesgavidia366 9 күн бұрын
Im leaving a list here with games that implement this mechanic: -Outer wilds -Return of the Obra Dinn -Tunic -Animal Well -Rain World -The Witness -Heaven's Vault -Noita
@Fyreshield 10 сағат бұрын
Every time I've heard someone reccommend the game Oneshot, they emphasize that you shouldn't look up anything about it before playing to avoid spoiling yourself
@garrub3991 18 күн бұрын
Lingo and Antichamber are two of my favorites in this genre!
@soup3.14 2 күн бұрын
Wanted to thank you for having captions! I know they can be difficult and time-consuming to include especially for smaller channels but they’re a great help to people like me that need them!
@CosmicHours Күн бұрын
Definitely a little time consuming but with the amount of work that goes into script writing and editing it feels like it's just part of the process to add them, and I really appreciate it when other channels have them too
@ianhall7513 3 күн бұрын
This gives me something to think about as I try to make my first game. These are things that drew me to many of these games that I never really put into words before. This is the kind of game design insight that I needed to hear.
@chekote 5 күн бұрын
I’ve always considered showing creatures and environments as spoilers. Long before souls games ever existed. That’s part of the joy of discovery for me. I try to learn as little about a game as possible. Just enough to know I might enjoy it. Then I want to go in as blind as possible. There are so many games that I’ve enjoyed way more as a result.
@sollyzcrown 21 күн бұрын
HE SAID THE THING 7:58
@CosmicHours 21 күн бұрын
It's not a Cosmic Hour video with at least 1 mention of Cosmic Horror
@khloeprower6087 18 күн бұрын
Very lovely video! Personally, I’ve always called them ‘Eureka’ style games after the feeing of euphoria that you get when you realize a new aspect of the game.
@tora9567 17 күн бұрын
I think they’re called MedtroidBrainias
@nomenenhum1830 9 күн бұрын
Tunic reminds me of the experience of playing games as a non-native english speaker. When I was young every gameplay was like Tunic's. It's kind of nostalgic, in a way.
@LucumLuftra 19 күн бұрын
Celeste has movement tricks that dramatically affect the game that are possible from the beginning but only "taught" in the post game that was add later in as free dlc
@mrthirdperson00 12 күн бұрын
Very good video concept and execution 👍🏼 All the games you mentioned are some of my favorite games, but I never noticed a connecting pattern until watching this. I'll definitely be using the Term "Knowledge-Based Games" from now on 😁
@gerardoalexiscarvajaluc4814 4 күн бұрын
Oh shit, snnuy! I did't know anything about this channel, so hearing you here was such a pleasant surprise, loving this channel, keep it up dude.
@chocolatekake6796 20 күн бұрын
Was so lost at how i recognized this voice for so long man, glad you're branching out!
@wasabiingredient3171 9 күн бұрын
Just found your channel, and I love it!!❤ keep up the good work😁
@Tuen9 11 күн бұрын
22:58 - "spoilers in this genre are detrimental to the experience" 5 seconds later - plays the most hidden piece of sound in all of animal well. LoL. That all aside, these games are great, and I have to play more of them. I solved Tunic's big in-game puzzle in one try, and got the meta puzzle done... a ways after that. I still gotta play Rain World and Outer Wilds. Looks like they'll be great experiences.
@yaroslavyevsieiev5890 20 күн бұрын
I knew it was you Snnuy Now I'm subbing Good vids!
@fanficologist6621 21 күн бұрын
Your voice sound just like Snnuy, it's uncanny.
@NordOfTheNorth 21 күн бұрын
Wild… they’ve got to be related
@Scooby_tft 21 күн бұрын
Nah you must be imagining things
@Jacues100 21 күн бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one
@snailtan4332 14 күн бұрын
Sometimes I think its an AI generated voice tbh... I hope not, this is not meant as a diss ^^'
@asteria9963 3 күн бұрын
Glad you mentioned game literacy. There are still elitists who claim that "no hand-holding" is somehow a good thing. Then they end up making terrible games that are just a chore to play. It actually takes a lot of knowledge and skill to make a game that pulls it off well. More often than not, these phony devs don't understand that you still have to teach people with little to no game literacy how things work. The key lies in teaching the player without them being aware of it. If all you do is withhold information in an attempt tp appear cryptic, you're bad at designing video games.
@strayorion2031 6 күн бұрын
17:07 as a kid that grew up where, at the time, finding games in english was more accesible than in my native language, this is something I experience through my childhood, 90% of the games I played I couldn't understand a word, and I had to figure things on my own, even as far to read instruction manuals that I couldn't understand, I know tunic may be a new experience to people who are native to english, but playing a game in a language I can't understand were my first experiences playing games, and the "I didn't know I could upgrade my stats" where a common occurence through my childhood and I don't even know how I played an entire pokemon game without understanding a single word
@LoveBbyJay 4 күн бұрын
Great video! I love how detailed you go into what for most people are probably just a passing thought. I can't wait to watch more of your videos!! P.S. I absolutely love your voice!
@freshglizzy3763 5 күн бұрын
One of my favorite examples of this is Prey 2017. A very important late-game item is quite literally on top of a shelf in the first room where you'd never actually care to look.
@alpaltntas3628 20 күн бұрын
Great video not snnuy man. As a diehard rain world fan it's good to seeing it here. I'm curious about the next video
@user-df5nb8zy7e 14 күн бұрын
Having played 20 hours of Sekiro, I would disagree with treating bosses as puzzles. For example, I know the entirety of boss' moves, and what each requires to overcome. But it happens so fast and so varied, that my knowledge does not matter - I can not access it fast enough to actually do the thing that is necessary exactly when it is necessary (like pressing a button that is otherwise not used during combat in order to avoid losing 70% of your health to a single attack).
@jademonass2954 7 күн бұрын
i gotta say, no other game series gives me that "idk whats happening but i will figure it out" more than the sokpop games they arent always great, but some are truly special i would reccomend *soko loco deluxe* , *bobo robot* , *helionaut* , *pyramida* and *kochu's dream* the most though
@shamal2351 16 күн бұрын
So glad I found you! Just what I needed
@AssasinZorro 20 күн бұрын
If you like games of this kind, I suggest you play through Antichamber (the are some items there, but the knowledge is the main thing) else Heart.Break() - it's a game that starts like a point'n'click adventure game with some frustrating elements, but later it turns out that the genre is different - it's closer to an immersive sim where there are multiple ways of doing the same thing and the more you know about the world, the closer you get to beginning a god
@jakobg8200 21 күн бұрын
First of all, i really appreciate this channel. I think it is very underrated, but there is one thing that would make your videos Even more inzeresting for me. I really enjoy videos that are about the design of games or smth like that. I feel Your videos are more like a presentation about games that fit into one category, which is not Bad ofc, but FOR ME it would be more interesting if the topic would be „the beauty of not telling anything“ or „the problem of not telling anything“. So that its more about the games Design than about the game in generell. I Hope you get my point, that i would rather have a special focus in the topic instead of „just“ presenting games that fit into this category. Pls understand this as an improvement Suggestion, although i am totally aware of the fact, that this is only my feeling and at the end of the Day, you must enjoy this channel. But I still Hope that you consider my suggestion ❤.
@Robust_Laser 7 күн бұрын
I'd like to give a mention to The Swapper, which is like, it's a level based puzzle game so it's not really open world or anything. And it does have locks in that you have to solve a number of puzzles to move on to the next area, but you do have to *travel* between levels, and at some point, you run out of levels you think you can reach. But you know where the rest are. You just have to figure out how to go... up. Doesn't tell you how you can possibly do that but it feels so awesome to learn what ends up becoming one of the most important techniques in the game just by experimentation.
@chackbro1 8 күн бұрын
Note that my fiancé struggled with Mario Wonder. I had to keep explaining to her that her character jumps higher if she holds down the jump button. She's shown me how much I've taken advantage of my gaming literacy
@Javifaa 4 күн бұрын
I think La Mulana would fit here. Because a big part of the difficulty there (and the game is really hard) is just piecing together what the hell you are supposed to do.
@kuipert4195 7 күн бұрын
I clicked on this video hoping to learn some things about game design, only to skip 80% because each game is still on my wishlist.. I'll come back in a year
@TempestDacine 4 күн бұрын
Wanted to save this for after I beat rain world but after 20 hours of smashing my head against a wall, finally getting through shadow citadel only to softlock on a spot on the bridge Ive lost all patience for the game. EDIT: Great video. Being relatively spoiler free was nice I got to vent and Was reminded about whats deeply fascinating about this game amd Im ready to give it another shot
@davidklemen5264 2 күн бұрын
One of the best games that uses this is noita! Its a rougelike, well, some may call it a rougelite just because of how much you can do if you know you can do it! The puzzles are absurdly hard, and require hours of guessing or a wiki, crafting wands is stupidly complex alchemy is also complicated, enemies are puzzles themselves! (Fire guy) basically, this game only lets you progress inbetween runs with your previous experience. Its awesome!
@Vee_Sheep 3 күн бұрын
[Cosmo yelling picture] *_Tunic isn't made of voxels, those are a specific thing and the game is just low-poly_*
@hanthony 8 күн бұрын
God bless you for putting the list of games shown in the description.
@mentalich4881 13 күн бұрын
Great insight on game design! Enjoyed vid a lot, a food for thought Also, Animal Well is a nice discovery for me personal, gonna try it out soon
@nBasedAce 2 күн бұрын
I can't believe I haven't seen your channel till now! This video was amazing. The game that I have the most fond memories of is Portal. It actually taught me how to look at things in terms of the laws of physics.
@miracleflame Күн бұрын
One of the most valuable videos out there on KZfaq in regards to gaming!
@CosmicHours Күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the incredibly kind comment and support, it means a lot
@DeXyfero 6 күн бұрын
This video perfectly encapsulates my feelings about games like these. Theres something truly magical about not knowing the bounds of something, and when you complete a game, it seems to become infinitely smaller, less but the same. I dont know how to finish this comment. Sorry
@VaryaTheVillain 19 күн бұрын
1) really good video about something I've been poking at for a while, and why this subgenre of games is something I like the most. thank you for it. 2) in the music pastebin doc, I think you wrote in "Signalis - Bittersweet" instead of "Kevin MacLeod - Bittersweet"
@gadgas6905 5 күн бұрын
Thank you you Snnuy for a great video
@ojhat 7 күн бұрын
Fez was this game for me. I need to go back and play that and actually learn and use the language without spoiling anything about it to explore the rest of the world
@hollow-kq5fouyhbguyk 2 күн бұрын
as a person who played rain world and haven't beaten it I believe that having it in the thumbnail is perfect
@deftwhistle 9 күн бұрын
someone else mentioned it but highly recommend Void Stranger for this kind of game, it is a sokoban puzzle game first so it not for everyone but if the gameplay clicks with you even a little its an amazing game
@TheTimeGnome Күн бұрын
You may like 4x games or colony sim games where knowledge/understanding is king. Oxygen not included without using the wiki comes to mind right away.
@tartaruga2149 10 күн бұрын
A game that i think does this really well is Fear and Hunger and its sequel. Without knowing anything about them you will have a miserable experience, you will die countless times and unlike Soulsborne games, you dont even get to level up or make your equipment better. Even if you did, the game wouldnt tell you how, like how it doesnt tell you how to gain certain skills or even how to properly use them. And after you progress you will learn that everything you had was everything you needed, because every enemy has a specific weakness or strategy do to to make them trivial, you can open shortcuts, you can avoid most fights, and you can in a couple hours do what you couldnt in a dozen
@Lulink013 6 күн бұрын
I'm a little sad Toki Tori 2, The Witness and Fez were'nt featured in the video at all. They all are great examples. - Toki Tori 2 is a puzzle based metroidvania that, unlike Animal Well, never gives you new tools requiered for puzzles. You can only learn more about it's mechanics and then put them together in new brilliant solutions that were there all along. - The Witness is a game about learning it's own rules too. The deeper you go, the more kind of puzzles you'll be able to solve... And there's even a secret layer 2 to it! - Fez, I don't think needs an introduction. It's one of the first games of this kind where you start with the tool and learn more about it as you go. It also has a language to piece together if you are into that.
@atmatey 20 күн бұрын
The Witness is pretty much the epitome of knowledge-based games. You have explore different areas of the island you’re in, not to gather items or tools, but to learn the rules and mechanics of how each panel type works. The open world of The Witness is one of the most dense and well designed of any game I’ve played.
@fractalgem 17 күн бұрын
And with enough knowledge you can get the true ending in extremely short order!
@Vukassin 6 күн бұрын
All point and click adventures are knowledge gated essentially, where if ou know what to do it only takes an hour or two, and five times that when you play it for the first time. They don't have the procedural element and moving pieces for emergent gameplay so you can only really play them once, but that one time is usually all about figuring out you already have the "key". In Loom there is a really great moment when you figure out you have more magic available to you than you first throught, it feels pretty amazing.
@laytonjr6601 17 сағат бұрын
I totally get "you can only play for the first time once", you can somewhat get around it by watching let's plays (however those kind of games are extremely sensitive to spoilers from the streamer's chat) I haven't played Outer Wilds yet so I'm careful about avoiding spoilers
@deadpixstudios 11 күн бұрын
Watched all of your videos. I'm not satisfied. I DEMAND MORE! ...please?
@05degrees 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@yao199 9 күн бұрын
>success isn't about in-game achievements *me hysterically laughing after getting 100% in yet another grindfest*
@matijamaksan4344 5 күн бұрын
Bubble Wand is an item that works as movement upgrade. Making this whole Animal Well game just regular platformer. Not knowledge based game. Like you get moments of realization in Ori and Hollow Knight but those are Metroidvanias. And Animal Well seems like one as well after you get Bubble Wand. Still great video showcasing great games.
@MIKAEL212345 21 күн бұрын
forgot this was Snnuy until like halfway through
@chumimintv9052 20 күн бұрын
Man I KNEW this was his voice
@argo3364 17 күн бұрын
Stumbled across this video and was like, this guy sounds exactly like snnuy
@robbiegeegee 11 күн бұрын
@@chumimintv9052yeah I immediately was like "holy shit, this is snnuy??? Right???" if not, it's someone with the exact same voice and speech. I had no idea he did other content like this!
@Navar4477 12 күн бұрын
Quickly looking into this video and seeing no new games made me sad, was hoping I'd find a new knowledge game! Oh well, I look forward to watching this later
@youtubeuniversity3638 5 күн бұрын
21:04 Need some way to procedurally generate discoverable stuff. Imagine if Minecraft's crafting recipies could vary a little depending on world seed, for example.
@dragomaster2422 20 күн бұрын
This was a beautiful video of a beautiful game.
@alvarorubio1993 4 күн бұрын
I like tunic because you can reveal hidden knowledge intuitivelly, I found out know to level up before I found the manual page for it.
@hypnogri5457 13 күн бұрын
Noita is one of the first games I thought about when I read your title
@KingDingus92 10 күн бұрын
I really wanna watch this but I keep pausing in fear of spoilers. so ima dip and come back in a year
@galaxian23 8 күн бұрын
giving you everything leaves you with nothing but to use what is given
@catman404 29 минут бұрын
10:54 of all of them to show you choose the camper lizard
@IrynStyl 13 күн бұрын
I don't remember the route I took exactly, but today I learned I did some sort of skip to get the bubble wand. I came in from the other direction, then was confused how to get to the boss because it was blocked off haha. (talking about animal well I should clarify)
@shieldgenerator7 11 күн бұрын
this video really makes me want to play Tunic and Animal Well now. and Outer Wilds
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