I love how Charlie is normal at times, and then just: “Kill people with hammers!!!”

Charlie's energy and his ability to throw Mike off genuinely is amazing, unmatched and unique. It makes these videos so fun to watch.

Loved the ATF jabs haha The water drop sound effects in the abdomen shot killed me 😂

I had a FiveseveN years ago. We bought the SS197 ammo from FN and it penetrated both sides of a soft Kevlar vest. It was a small hollow point round but it went straight through the vest. They stopped making the SS197 round, I would imagine because it was penetrating like that while it was designed to be a "civilian" round rather than the 190 armor piercing. I was full time law enforcement and still couldn't get my hands on the armor piercing rounds. You had to buy them through a department at that time, you couldn't have a letterhead to bring to the gun shop. It was a great pistol, I carried it as a secondary on SWAT. Almost no recoil and it barked some flames. I think the ammo now is toned down.

I love how Micah is treated as comedic relief but straight up outshoots everyone

I’m glad that Charlie’s back and that he’s okay.

also keep in mind : FNH/FN America's contract with most companies has resulted in a purposed reduction in velocity to reduce the performance of 5.7x28 ammunition (probably at the fbi's request). speer gold dot being one of the worst... aac's velocity seems to be one of the best. but the projectile performance isnt quite there yet. of course, if you get your hands on older ammunition or private loads, you will see how the 5.7x28 USE to perform...

I died at “It seems to do exactly what all the other bullets we’ve tested done which is, it will… fuck you up”

Not only does the beefy 9mm quickly degrade wrist stability, it also blows the lung out of the body

Love the evolution of everyone. You humor is a God send. Great Work!!!

if i could spend 10 minutes with all these guys it would be the best 10 minutes of my life. They always know how to have fun while still being really safe with the firearms.

Despite this performance, I still wouldn't mind a Part 2 where you try shooting the 5.7 at various kinds of armor and maybe even different types of cover, and compare it to some other calibers.

The 5.7x28 was the round of choice for Stargate Command, so it's clearly a highly capable and lethal round.

I love all of these videos, but damn I've missed you Charlie!

As someone who has been shot by both 9mm and 5.7 and lived I can attest to them both making for a shitty recovery time. I can't tell you too much about this first incident but I can tell you for whatever reason the 9mm was a numb airy feeling hit with like the kind of pain you get from a firecracker going off in your hand or a hard smack from someone (mixed with adrenaline)...until I got to ER then the pain was def showing itself (hit once in the upper quad on right leg). The time I was hit by a 5.7 in the shoulder I will never forget. I was schobberknock drunk walking home from the bars in downtown Indianapolis (Broadripple) at about 2:30am when I was hit by a 5.7 round smack in my right shoulder right through my leather jacket intended for someone else in a drive by as I was walking thru the worst shady alley I could have picked just to get back to my apartment faster. The pain I felt from that MF was searing hot and super intense. It felt like what I imagine having a red hot stick of rebar slammed into your shoulder. I remember initially grabbing at it fumbling to make the pain stop like when you do when you burn the hell out of yourself to no avail. I actually ran myself to the police station a few streets away to get help. The 5.7 wound bled out more as well idk why but unlike the 9mm it went all the way thru my muscle and shoulder bone and out the other side. What sucked more? That's hard to say but what hurt more was the 5.7 without a doubt.

Helpful video. Thanks guys.

I want a full version of Charlie explaining the different parts and functions of the human bodies. He did just finally become a doctor after all. I felt like I was actually learning something.

Handgun round that identifies as a rifle round 👀

These guys did a wonderful presentation of comparison of different rounds, but the only problem I have with this is, they’ll say all that about the 57 round until you get shot with it

I saw a post on X from S&W about 5.7 pistols this morning and realized I don't know anything about 5.7 pistols. So I went to KZfaq and punched in 5.7 pistols and this was the first video. I knew I would get the straight dope here. Been following for so long and have received so much valuable insight from plate carriers to movement to contact. Once again great video, informative and entertaining. It's like being back in the army where "shooting the shit" with old school NCOs turns into some great "hip pocket " training.

I’m glad Charles is all bundled up. Wouldn’t want the little guy getting cold out there.

I love that the closing arguments is basically just: "It's a bullet, and bullets f**k people up, so it'll f**k you up"

New to these videos. I want to point out that just because a round stops in the gel and doesn't blow everything apart is exactly the point. You want the bullet to stop in the target, so you're less worried about what's behind the target. You don't want a home defense weapon whose bullets exit the burglar and then your whole house.

What the heck man you lit me up when comparing those rounds. My feelings

Met some BELSOF guys a few years ago. They said the 5.7 pistols were great if youre shooting someone 100m away and they're wearing armor, but it just whipped through people in the GWOT. The ammo was hard to come by and they couldn't "borrow" from anyone else. They missed their Browning HP. The "bloop" at the 13:32 mark was hilarious.

I'd love to see MP7 vs P90 ballistic performance. They have very similar mythos associated with them.

Great video as always!

I have only seen one comment about the atrocity committed by a P.O.S. at Ft. Hood on Nov. 20, 2009. I pray we have not forgotten those fallen and wounded. The weapon was the FN Five-Seven loaded with civilian FNH SS197SR 40 gr. V-MAX cartridge. Of the 13 killed, 6 were shot in the chest (with 4 likely as they were charging the shooter), 1 in abdomen, 1 to the head, and 1 with no description of wound. Of the 30 wounded, 5 were shot in the back (2 twice), 2 were shot in chest and back. All shots taken at self-defense distances. Essentially all shots to the chest (i.e., center mass/thoracic cavity) were fatal. I think that speaks very well of the round's capability and when you take into account the extremely low recoil and extra round capacity, it may be a better option than 9mm. The 5.7x28 doesn't make impressive entry and exit wounds, but the right round does significant internal damage. Out of the PS-90, that performance can extend to 150-200 yards.

I low key think Charlie is the smartest guy out there. It isn't easy constantly popping off jokes of that caliber on the fly.

The raw milk then needle to the aim joke had me laughing more then I probably should have.

Love seeing y'all use a Steyr. My M9-A1 just passed 8k rounds without a failure.

4:01 BROOOOO WE NEED A FULL REVIEW OF THE STEYR! Shit is a unicorn that nobody knows about but it's one of the best 9mm's out there

I’m just so glad that Charlie is back! I’ve never seen someone heal as fast as him! I mean, c’mon, he had the worst case of hemorrhoids/poison ivy that I’ve ever witnessed! He’s a real trooper! Rock on Charlie

"It seems to do exactly what all the other bullets we've tested done.... which is they will fuck you up".... That my friends is the internet Gold Standard right there. Outstanding!

The countryside background looks like where I grew up in NE Nevada; it was so awesome with minimal driving I could be out shooting where no one cared.

Love the breakdown and the way you buy the viewers… nothing but love

Charlie is too funny! Thank goodness he is okay and getting better. Hopefully, he wont have any further issues and has more luck going forward.

We need to do long range sniping vs ballistic dummies already!

If I remember correctly; 5.7 was designed, in the late 80’s, for the specific purpose of countering soviet bloc body armor of the time. More specifically the high penetration, armor piercing cartridge that hasn’t been produced or easily obtainable for the past 20-25 years.

Love watching these videos in class

Would have been cool to test against some soft armor and see how true the "armor piercing" abilities of 5.7 actually are

I thought the 5.7 was intended to defeat soft armor lvl 3, even with just regular fmj. Would of been interesting to see 9m vs 5.7 on soft armor.

Man I have watched this video like 40x’s I love the commentary, I have the 5.7 S&W I honestly feel like this would be a dope ballistic test, I’m definitely looking for those Alpha rounds at the next gun show.. Great Content guys but I would personally love to see a vid with the s&w 5.7 I think it’s a better pistol

Man your channel is great! I really like this comparison and the ballistic dummy. I agree with most of your point on 9mm and 5.7x28. They are both pistol rounds so both are a compromise from the get go. I only compare the 2 on their performance from a handgun because 5.56 SBR is a better option over a 5.7 or 9mm PCC. 5.7 will never do more damage than 9mm. 5.7 will always have a higher mag capacity, lower recoil, faster follow up shots, and better accuracy at further ranges. IMO it all comes down to the damage done and if 9mm does enough damage to justify using it even though 5.7 has the previously mentioned advantages. On the flip side for 5.7 to even be in the argument it has to do at least enough damage to be effective. I like the ammunition choices but there are many more 5.7 ammunition choices. Some that reach 2400 fps from a 5 inch barrel. Like elite ammunition’s 27 gr S4 using the same projectile as FN 198lf. Also elite ammunition also makes fragmenting and solid core penetrating rounds all loaded really hot. If a 5.7 handgun can deal even 2/3 the damage as a 9mm with any available load IMO with all the other added benefits it would take the cake. Right now I believe these loads can deal close to equal the damage as the best 9mm self defense loads. With the boom in 5.7 popularity I’d expect that within 10 years we get some 5.7 commercially available loads that match these specially loads. Then 5.7 will be considered better in a handgun for self defense

I’m no expert and I’ve never even shot a 5.7. But I’d assume it really shines in the P90 on full auto with the 50 round mags and armor piercing bullets. That’s what I think it was really designed for. SMG, up close and personal against armor. It would work very well there I believe.

The chaos that Charlie brings to the team is appreciated.

The quality of these videos never cease to surprise me

can we just appreciate how valuable charlie is to this channel.. what a hoot

Charlie is hilarious. Air quotes “raw milk” had me cracking up @9:06

As someone who absolutely loves the FN57, I'd love to see a comparison against armor.

First time I’ve seen one of your vids. Instant follow

It’ll be cool to see how it performs against a plate as opposed to nine mill but solid test thank you guys

The round was designed to defeat a kevlar helmet at 100 yds. A very specific use case, but yeah, without a tungsten penetrator cored bullet, and on an unarmored target, it isn't great compared to 9mm. Also, glad Charlie is back. Love how he is picking through the dead dummy and putting pieces in his pocket.

It's great to see a firearms channel that is creatively entertaining while maintaining it's technical education roots. Learning a lot!

57 has many advantages. High capacity, low recoil, faster follow-up shots, flatter shooting equating to better accuracy.

i would love to see a comparison of the 5.7 in a pistol vs a rifle.

It's a little insane the amount of "naa you can walk that off, it's a tiny hole" I don't think I'd be able to walk off any bullet to pretty much any part of me. Maybe I'm just not built from adamantium like these guys. I missed Charlie, such a funny guy!!

The FN firearms chambered in 5.7X28 were primarily designed around the SS-190 ammo. Designed specifically to penetrate SBA. So standard pistol cartridges will be better for EDC.

Micah fell in love with the gun from those first 4 rounds 😂

love primary arms had a problem recently with take down pins from them and they cleared up the problem no questions asked seriously and you dont have to talk to a robot on the phone like some other companys love them

Nothing more hilarious then watching Mike’s reaction to Charlie’s off the wall comments. 😄

I’m so glad Charlie is back. He really ties everything together. 😊

Aww man I was looking forward to his different sdi definitions

I ended up doing some training with the 5.7 and the only reason we use it as NATO is because we also use the P90 and they share the same ammo so it's just easier that way but we do also train with the colt M1911.

I thought the whole point of this round was that it was better than 9mm at penetrating armor, and the low recoil meant it was great in sub-machineguns. Figured you'd try it against some kevlar or plates.

Man that 5’10 vs 6ft comparison hit me pretty hard 🤣🤣🤣

This is quality content thank you. I like this channel.

I loved the FN Fiveseven. I was slapping 10" steel plates at 100yd all day. Gave me a lot of confidence and I felt like a better marksman than I really am haha.

Emt in Indianapolis here. Saw a man shot 3 times in the chest with 5.7 (pretty nice grouping too) and all 3 zipped right through him. Made a full recovery.

🤣 Garand Thumb: insults everyone about being unable to handle 9mm due to more recoil ALSO Garand Thumb: immediately proceeds to be less accurate than desired due to self-professed increased recoil... Priceless humor! ♥️ Never change, guys... 😊

It causes a lot of bleeding, which equals death.

That black fang round is crazy!!

Carried a FN Five Seven as my duty backup for about 15 years. It was nice having a 20 round and 30 round mag and it was super light. I kept it in a closed pouch off hand side on my gun belt. That muzzle flash at night was insane.

“Raw milk” had me rollin. 😂😂😂

Thanks for the video, i think i will just get the 44mag , yeah, fewer shots, but less is more sometimes.

Would like to see how the ballistics would be out of the 16inch barrel on the gel Torso

Intersting how the round at 7:18 imparted enough kenetic energy that it actually broke the table through the gel.

My favorite part of church, watching garand thumb

Would be nice if you used the green tip hollow points for the 5.7 you will like the ballistics a lot more

Modern warfare that came out around 2009 2011 the first time i seen this gun feel in love with it.

I'd love to see the round vs armor. I feel like this is one of the glorified myths about this round, and should be touched on here.

Video idea…the “one caliber” challenge. You each get a rifle and pistol that fires the same round, so like Micah with the 5.7, Mike with the 9mm, Charlie with 45ACP, whatever. Then you compete in both close and distance shots. Looking for 1 caliber that can do “it all”

Such an interesting caliber how much recoil it goes compared to a 9 and 45 is it less than both?

I do believe the round sharted off.

I'd love to see you guys test 5.7x28 against SafeLife Defense's Level IIIA+, which they CLAIM can stop newer SBA-piercing ammo including 5.7x28 out of an FN 5.7 pistol.

There was a secret Air Force Spec Ops unit, stationed in one of the basements of Cheyenne Mountain complex that made great use with the round out of the P90 tho..

Back in the 80s and 90s Hong Kong police issued special " Tokarev rated " ballistic vests . 7.62x25....an 85 gr. bullet @ 1700-1750 fps.

The beauty of the 5.7x28mm is that it combines the advantages of the .22lr with the advantages of the 9mm. It is soft shooting, light and pistols have a lot of capacity like in the case of the .22lr while at the same time it has reliability and terminal performance that compares favorably with the 9mm.

Charlie's "Raw Milk" had me laughing harder than I've laughed in months

"This looks like one of those shots you'd survive then 10 years later become a politician or some shit" gold 🤣

*"Thing fie foot tenth not a real manth? Shtep in da ring mithter thumb"* - Mike Tyson learning he's being "height shamed"

Came across some of the older videos and subbed. I have been binge-watching and seen Mike go from hilarious in one episode to absolutely tanked and hilarious in another. The "Raw Milk" bit got more. Looking stacked!

The vids haven't been the same. The return of charlie makes it whole again. I love primary arms. I don't even put irons on my 3x microprism boomstick. I recommend them to everyone. Please don't muzzle Charlie

These were the sidearms on Battlestar Galactica (with a fake grenade launcher attachment.) They portrayed the 5.7 as being capable of knocking a grown man off his feet when hit.

Takes me twice the amount of time to watch the video because I'm jumping back to listen to all the random stuff again :)

I reload for the 5.7 x 28mm and trust me, it's a wicked round when loading it the way it was meant to be loaded......HOT at 22-2300fps from a pistol!

The Five-seveN was my favorite pistol in Counter-Strike 1.6 so that was the very first gun I bought when I came of age. I still have it to this day and I absolutely love it.

Speer neutered their Gold Dot in 5.7 x 28 after 2020. From ~1850 fps down to ~1730 fps and changed the tip (doesn't expand in clear gel w/pistol). I have video uploaded showing the difference to their ammo from 2020 to 2022. Others have been slowed down, too.

Interesting you guys should run a test to see how quite the 5.7 can get.

I love the five-seven. I find the grip to be very comfortable in my hand. My biggest problem is finding a holster for it. Very few companies offer one.