9mm vs 45 ACP, WE END THE DEBATE. The Human Torso Test.
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Күн бұрын9mm vs 45 ACP, the age old debate and the one that we end today. In today's video we utilize a human torso analog for our test.
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00:00 We are the paragon of 9mm vs 45 ACP science
0:59 Video sponsor Hunting Clash!!
2:18 Begining of TEST :))))
2:23 What ammunition are we using 9mm vs 45 ACP
4:45 Charlie enters the chat
5:53 First test 9mm vs 45 ACP FMJ vs Human Torso
7:46 Second test 9mm vs 45 ACP Hollow Points (Proven Performers)
11:15 Third test Norma Monolithic hollowpoints 9mm vs 45 ACP
14:09 Fourth test Buffalo Bore Extremely high pressure Ammunition 9mm vs 45 ACP
16:35 Fifth test Buffalo Bore Refire and chest and abdomen
20:27 Long range 9mm vs 45 ACP
21:04 Final thoughts on 9mm vs 45 ACP
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@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
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@anthonybieryla6635 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do a 460 rowland test. They make conversion barrels for 1911 and glock 21. It's meant for self defense against big game. It shoots 460rowland, 45acp, 45+p, and 45 super.
@the.living.man. 2 жыл бұрын
.40 S&W has entered the chat...
@druncle1977 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh.. Do a review (or link to a gun guy who have) about the game and I'll seriously consider it. If it is a simulation that can teach me stuff that is useful when I apply for a hunting license, it's exactly what I've been looking for.
@N8ThaGrr8 2 жыл бұрын
Science and violence!! Lab coat and pit vipers, it's go time mofos!! This is perfect!! Gun show is next week and I was debating on a caliber to buy lol.
@UncleFjester 2 жыл бұрын
Are y'all from California? Why do you say "Like" 10 times every sentence as if your a little valley girl?
@shreddymerks 2 жыл бұрын
9mm is a faster, less expensive round. You can carry more of it. You can train easier with it. You can buy it in bulk. The variety is crazy. 9mm is just the best round out there. That is why I carry a .45.
@spockskynet 2 жыл бұрын
9mm is also the first to be impossible to find during panic buys.
@mikestackz854 2 жыл бұрын
Well that’s pretty dumb of you
@shreddymerks 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikestackz854 thank you!
@zacharybaldrige3047 2 жыл бұрын
I was told all that but laughed when I payed 10 bucks more for the same brand 9mm target loads than my 45auto lol starting to reload to save even more.
@mikestackz854 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacharybaldrige3047 where I’m at 9mm is half the price
@cptkiddokidd5137 Жыл бұрын
I miss my uncle, a former Vietnam Ranger/Green Beret. When I asked him about calibers and whether the 9mm or .45 was better, his response was: "I've never met anyone that would let me shoot them in the chest with a .22." In other words, "doesn't matter."
@screenname6829 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your uncle was a wise guy in the very best sense of the term
@terryrutherford2114 Жыл бұрын
Ex deputy sheriff here. Shot placement is key, Especially now that the bad guys are wearing body armor. Center of mass is good, head is better.
@moosephilotus4671 Жыл бұрын
That's the proper attitude. Hell, you could kill someone with a blank.
@Tron-Jockey Жыл бұрын
That female politician that was shot in the head with a 9mm survived and has returned to nearly 100% health. Just a small entry wound scar. Somehow I don't think the results would have been the same with a hot 45 round. You guys need to test a shot to the forehead.
@mrscaryfox3955 Жыл бұрын
@@terryrutherford2114 dumb comment I know cops don’t aim for head
@chadrobinson3374 7 ай бұрын
Also, if you're considering a round to carry for a CCW. In this particular situation, the +P .45 went thru the gel dummy and kept going another 50-100 feet, and rang that plate with some authority. The 9mm +P+ stopped inside of the gel dummy. If you're out in public, that extra 100ish feet could mean someone else gets hurt.
@TheEndtime60 6 ай бұрын
Both of them went through
@Revenant951 6 ай бұрын
Don’t run +p then
@samworlock1987 5 ай бұрын
If the nine takes more shots thought then it runs a greater risk of miss-aiming during rapid fire vs a assured stopping power and slower shooting
@TheEndtime60 5 ай бұрын
@samworlock1987 that's what I'm talking about. You shouldn't be rapid-firing at anything anyway unless it is within a few yards. Any longer distances require you to take slower more precision shots so you don't miss. So why is there all this talk about more recoil with a 45 and easier follow-up shots with a 9 mm? I can double tap somebody with a 45 within a couple of yards, putting the rounds an inch apart. Put any greater distances I do not want to be rapid firing a 45 or a 9 mm. I don't want to miss!!!
@LSDdreams808 5 ай бұрын
There are 9mm rounds thar out preform the .45
@tylermcconnell2222 9 ай бұрын
"I think the .45 is gonna win" "The Japanese don't like it" @5:29 😂😂
@thedumbguncollector5546 2 жыл бұрын
The intern legally has to live at that range because it’s the only place in town sufficiently far away from elementary schools.
@leegreene3059 2 жыл бұрын
And sheep (there may have been an incident)
@echo3568 2 жыл бұрын
And highly populated areas
@soonerfrac4611 2 жыл бұрын
There was definitely an incident involving sheep and Velcro gloves.
@JustTheTip556 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, these spam accounts are getting out of control ^^^ Holy shit
@robwigglezz944 2 жыл бұрын
Although I know reporting the spam BS does nothing, I still do it out of principle
@AdministrativeResults 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is a time traveler and he’s laughing our faces about it. Things like “arguing about it for centuries.” Come clean Garand Thumb.
@GarandThumb 2 жыл бұрын
For all time
@andreivaldez2929 2 жыл бұрын
When are you Naruto running through Area 51, bro? 🤔 Love your channel, bro - no homo
@rojopachuga 2 жыл бұрын
88 m.p.h. marty!
@Mowgli1894 2 жыл бұрын
But is he from the past or future ? 🤔
@kevinaweseom2866 2 жыл бұрын
Have Charlie on the channel
@ryaneaton7797 9 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to see 9mm vs .45ACP on levels of body armor.
@madweazl 7 ай бұрын
They're both worthless in that scenario
@skate5652 7 ай бұрын
there are only a few rounds on planet earth that could go through body armor, and neither you or I are qualified enough to purchase them.
@billyshuig6087 7 ай бұрын
U can buy steel core bullets for any rifle caliber and reload them.
@narendra7817 7 ай бұрын
@@billyshuig6087Could you elaborate? I've searched far and wide for AP rounds. They are legal where I live, but frankly I can never find them ANYWHERE. Even the 3006 m2AP is damn near impossible to find online for less than 10$ per round.
@patrick2912 6 ай бұрын
@@skate5652who told you that lol
@casualginger1098 11 ай бұрын
I always assumed it was more capacity that differed between 9mm and .45 personally. I kept hearing how closely the rounds performed and figured it was the ability to carry more rounds that really separated the two calibers.
@stratigangames508 10 ай бұрын
The trade off is more energy transfer for less capacity.
@joesonstarks7567 10 ай бұрын
That's why I carry 9mm and not 45 tbh
@bobsnittle3793 10 ай бұрын
@@stratigangames508I feel like the truth is more in the middle than we had thought. Seems like people overstate and understate the ammo capacity and power between the 9 and .45. I'd prefer having more powerful bullets and less than faster lighter bullets with more. G21 is 13 rounds .45 acp, vs 17 of 9mm out of a g17. So capacity is a moot argument in that respect. But most 9s will have nearly 2x the amount most 1911s have, in which case I'd pick the 9. Assum I NG I have 13 rounds plus the ability to have 26 in the extended, I'm picking. 45 since the increase in energy r Transfers almost 30 percent greater with .45 which is very significant when it comes to human targets
@bobsnittle3793 10 ай бұрын
@@Cody2nd hell yeah brother, I'm getting myself an optic with glass on both sides so dirt doesn't block the projector on the sight. That, and I'll rock some 230 plus p. 2 standards and 1 kci extended 26 round mag for self defense. I'd say for all intents and purposes that's a great self defense loadout vs any 9.
@BlackMarvel25 9 ай бұрын
Glock 21’s start at 13 rd mags for .45 I love it so much
@iTz_FLAwL3zZ 2 жыл бұрын
As far as these tests go, I’d love to see a comparison of 5.56 out of a 20” compared to a 10.3” and how much they really differ.
@pbourne87 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Paul Harrell’s channel.
@LawlessNate 2 жыл бұрын
If we are talking about M193 or M855 then the difference would be night and day. There are some videos showing some testing of this on YT. I too, though, would love to see garandthumb do similar testing with these dummies.
@kenmassey3028 2 жыл бұрын
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@JustTheTip556 2 жыл бұрын
I think 16" vs 10.3" is better. 16" is much more common than 20"
@1stCallipostle 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustTheTip556 but 5.56 was designed for a 20 inch It really pushes it over the velocity threshold to get it to fragment more reliably Hence why as issued barrels get shorter You hear more complaints about hits not stopping people
@joshgalvan8958 2 жыл бұрын
“The stone that David used to kill Goliath was actually a 45 ACP projectile.” -Colion Noir.
@dabeln1 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is King.
@hotgamerboy6240 2 жыл бұрын
@@dabeln1 i am jesus
@emersonb5764 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. And traveling at roughly the same velocity.
@macfiona4545 2 жыл бұрын
Colin who?
@tomthetitan3697 2 жыл бұрын
@@macfiona4545 Colion noir he used to be an nra spokesperson and now makes pro 2a videos independently
@JerryEricsson 9 ай бұрын
I spent 24 years on the police force, I retired at the rank of Chief of Police in 1993. I also spent a bit over a year in Vietnam back in 1970-71. In my time, I have seen shootings using every round from the little .22LR and even a .25 ACP. I have seen shots that killed in one round, I have seen guys that kept coming after a dozen rounds hit him. I have attended autopsy's on the dead who died of the shootings. From all that I learned, for my duty weapon, when I had a choice and could afford a semi-auto back when LE was a wheel gun job I carried a .45 ACP and I kept her fed with 230 grain FMJ. I guess a throwback to my time in service. I always felt well armed. I had several guns over that time, even did some time carrying a Smith M59 in 9mm but always felt a bit light when it came to that. I ended up with an Astra M100 in .45ACP as my carry gun. She boasts a 10 round magazine and one in the tube makes 11. I carried 2 extra magazines and still kept her stuffed full of FMJ. Here in the Dakota's in the winter folks dress warm, they wear layers of cloths and I have seen shootings where the penetration was stifled by the cloths. The 230 grain FMJ will penetrate. those clothing and punch a nice .45 hole through the bad guy. May not stop him on the first shot but you 9mm guys with 20 rounds can keep punching, I still have 9 more chances and all of them are bigger and badder. Just my opinion. BTW most of the dead guys I saw over the years who were shot by non-law enforcement died of little .22 caliber lead bullets. The .22LR is nothing to turn your nose up at. I still have my old 9 shot .22LR revolver and don't feel underarmed if I am carrying her either (2 speed loaders keep her stuffed if I need to reload, and I have had a lot of practice with them due to my time with the model 19s.)
@PalmettoNDN 4 ай бұрын
Your argument is only valid with FMJ or lead. Modern hollow points have devastating performance but need high velocity to function. This is why 45 defensive loads are light for caliber and that totally negates the "big, slow and heavy" argument of boomers. What also negates it is energy transfer. A lot of energy is lost punching through a guy. Going through him is like spinning wheels at a frag race. It looks great but it's wasted power. When it is dumped into the target, that is force that his body must absurb. FMJ sucks. It isn't 1968. And this is nothing new. The Speer Gold Dots are great performers and have been put a LOOOOOONG time. Long enough for you guys to realize that science has improved and your logic simply doesn't work anymore.
@60duce2 4 ай бұрын
Lol the old guys have killed more bad guys on foreign soil. That’s a lot of hear say for a lad who doesn’t have 33 bodies via a 1911
@LandoShmetzP. 4 ай бұрын
@@60duce2lol winner. +1
@not-AI 3 ай бұрын
Check out the 9mm extreme defender solid monolithic from Underwood. The best of both worlds FMJ+Hollow point
@cstraley 3 ай бұрын
It didn't sound like he was arguing but simply sharing his knowledge and reasoning for what he feels comfortable carrying. You are simply regurgitating what most everyone is saying these days. I can tell you (not arguing) that a 230 gr 45acp fmj round punched through you is going to stop most people. You would need a hollow point with as you pointed out "high velocity" in 9mm to hope to exceed that damage considering it is most likely half the size. I like both rounds and have multiples of each but if I had a choice between one it would be the 45. If it was an end of the world scenario and I had to be on the move it would be the 9mm between these two but in reality for me that situation I would go for high velocity 40 gr 22LR. @@PalmettoNDN
@GamesGunsAndGuitar 21 күн бұрын
I have been watching your vids forever, and they never cease to entertain. I’m going back through and watching these older ones. Thank you!
@airpods3198 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie chugging milk in the background and acting extremely awkward after referencing he had been banned from the public library is a truly epic character arc
@f2rarri 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie was awszons
@mr.hacking8100 Жыл бұрын
Not the only one who notices it
@cameronsprague101 Жыл бұрын
@@MakeAndFixItYourSelfProjects no one would care of you ate a 45...
@Chris-rl4jq 2 жыл бұрын
Having seen this video, I think it's safe to say that either caliber is more than sufficient for defense against an armless, legless man who struggles to sit up without assistance. Thanks, Science Man!
@AR15Si 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, you had me in the first half
@astrid779 2 жыл бұрын
OMG
@Dboyquicks10 2 жыл бұрын
Put his ass in a wheelchair without a seat belt on and I'll fight em with my ruger 22
@trevornemeth5890 2 жыл бұрын
Very funny when children don't even know what to look at to understand the point😂
@slowrollinglow5498 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, idt you understand the concept of this...Unless you were trying to be funny, either way, hard fail.
@jrod8009 5 ай бұрын
The struggle is real! It’s very natural to want the biggest, which may not necessarily be the best for YOU. I worked my way through college at a meat processing plant owned by my family. Most often, I worked the kill floor. So what did we use to dispatch? It certainly wasn’t a .45, .40, or the popular 9mm. The good old .22lr did the trick. From the 2000+ beef to the 100 lb hog, with very little exception 1 round did the trick. Do I carry a .22? Nope. But if I had to I’d be comfortable enough with the option. Practice, awareness, and placement.
@OneLeggedTarantula 7 ай бұрын
Summer: 9mm subcompact in my shorts pocket Winter: Full size 45 ACP under jacket.
@Grinfas 3 ай бұрын
🤙🏻💯
@ScorpionM203 3 ай бұрын
Fr. that's a vibe
@legendaryreviews 12 күн бұрын
That's how I do it.
@vandoo66 2 жыл бұрын
This debate took up 50% of the gun community’s time when I bought my first S.O.F. Magazine in 1978 at the ripe old age of 11. Can’t believe it’s gonna outlive me.
@132oink 2 жыл бұрын
It might not if a new round takes over
@vicnighthorse 2 жыл бұрын
You sir, are a year younger than me and thus probably a chick magnet.
@vandoo66 2 жыл бұрын
@@vicnighthorse 😂Spoken like a wise elder😉. I’ve been noticing that EACH year leaves with another positive trait or function that I used to take for granted
@joehadenough1642 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically back then it was a no brainer - I would have taken 45 over the crappy 9 hollow point of that day. In 2022 however, the tech for 9mm has caught up significantly and closed the gap. With modern ammo I’d take 9mm just for the capacity
@vandoo66 2 жыл бұрын
@@joehadenough1642 Not convinced. The US adopted the .45 after failings with the .38 long Colt. The 9 para round is a different beast and 13 rnds from a Hi-Power vs 7 from a 1911 is also something to consider.. Granted today there is little to no argument but back then you could make your point either way. Vive la difference. Own both and enjoy both:) Would have no qualms in using either to protect myself or loved ones but thankfully I guess I cannot put that level of first hand knowledge to the table. God Bless America. God Bless our Canadian Truckers. FREEDOM!
@lukesams3349 2 жыл бұрын
“People have been arguing 9mm VS .45 for centuries” My favorite Shakespeare quote, “.45, because those gents don’t maketh a .46”
@Joseph-mw2rl 2 жыл бұрын
Bruhh
@ericchadwell2951 2 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious
@slowrollinglow5498 2 жыл бұрын
Classic shakespear.
@myusername3689 2 жыл бұрын
.50 exists
@bashfull30 2 жыл бұрын
Sun tzu tells us that shot placement is more important than calibre. Honest....
@ryangalvin4701 8 ай бұрын
Y’all convinced me , between 1911 and the m9, I have noticed the quality of mags and reloading and let’s not forget the round count, I was a 1911 45 guy until I bought the m9
@legendofthefall7082 8 ай бұрын
The M9 is a sexy ass gun
@ryangalvin4701 8 ай бұрын
It is and the girsan regard mc is so reliable, well made, beautiful and good priced
@Mason-zp8yb 5 ай бұрын
@@ryangalvin4701 Just get a Beretta instead of a clone. Don't settle.
@ryangalvin4701 5 ай бұрын
@@Mason-zp8yb no need , girsan makes great guns
@safetyandsecurity5733 10 ай бұрын
I love this guys, you are great Sis that is why I was keeping this subscription to this channel because all content it really help and learn me so much in terms of tactical gear.❤️❤️👍👍
@WolfQuantum 2 жыл бұрын
As Clint Smith likes to say, "The handgun is what you use to get to the long gun you should have had in the first place."
@nilknoc101 2 жыл бұрын
I read this in smoker gravel tone
@themilkman6969 2 жыл бұрын
i mean to be fair you cant really conceal carry and quickdraw a barrett m99 for self defense
@tinncan 2 жыл бұрын
That's why he made an AR that you can finger bang, but introduces more blockage causing material than normal...
@Antonio.Aguilera 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@Antonio.Aguilera 2 жыл бұрын
@@themilkman6969 can't or won't
@shockwave6213 Жыл бұрын
My favorite quote: "Terminal ballistics. Pistols put holes in people, rifles put holes through people, shotguns at the right range with the right load will physically remove a chunk of shit off your opponent and throw that shit on the floor, and you will have to get someone to come in an clean the shit up with a shovel" - Clint Smith. Thunder Ranch.
@thezuck8157 Жыл бұрын
This has always been my favorite Clint Smith quote.
@squiffedallday Жыл бұрын
…and this helped the 45 vs 9 debate how?
@ricardodiaz8025 Жыл бұрын
hahaha lol
@kerviuskuroshiba5120 Жыл бұрын
@@squiffedallday by getting a shotgun instead XDDDDD jkjk :D
@jamessampson964 Жыл бұрын
LOL cool comment😄👍
@KursRage 8 ай бұрын
I was a Supply Corporal for B Co., and HHC 3rd Ranger Battalion from 1991-1993. At the end of each quarter, I had to expend all of the surplus ammunition, so that our funding would remain the same. I fired thousands of 5.56 and 9mm rounds. I became very proficient with a 9mm Beretta. Unfortunately, due to some really messed up Battalion politics, my company and A Co., did not participate in the Battle of Mogadishu. My friends that did recounted that the 9mm. Beretta was too underpowered in combat, and the Battalion was considering going to the .45 after that, although I left the unit before that happened. As for me, I liked the Beretta. It seemed very reliable, easy to clean, and the recoil was almost nil. Great presentation as always Sire! 🙏
@St3a1thsniper32 4 ай бұрын
I assume that would be because you can’t use things like hollow point or similar rounds due to the Geneva Convention right? The special self defense rounds are where 9mm really stands up to 45. ACP is terms of damage done.
@KursRage 4 ай бұрын
@@St3a1thsniper32 Good point, as I recall, only normal standard rounds were used, but my memory might be wrong as it’s thirty years later. The Somali fighters also used some kind of herbal stimulant that they chewed, the name of which I can’t remember either. 🫡
@letsdothis9063 3 ай бұрын
@@KursRageKhat. That's the stimulant. It's an herb that they chew. They get up in the morning and start chewing it. By afternoon, they are amped up and irritable. Bad combo for mean guys with guns.
@ggmanatee 2 ай бұрын
@@KursRage The US military, officially, has never used hollow points, so it would've just been 9mm ball/FMJ. FMJ isn't great for stopping a threat, let alone the guys that were high as a kite. I believe I recall a SEAL or Delta guy telling a story about him lighting up a combatant with nearly an entire mag of 5.56 and he kept going for a while. Drugs will do crazy things to you in combat.
@KursRage 2 ай бұрын
@@ggmanatee I was just the Supply Corporal for HHC 3/75th during the Battle of Mogadishu, and I was never deployed to Somalia. I heard all of their stories when they returned to Fort Benning.
@noahdavid8588 8 ай бұрын
I think the biggest takeaway here is what you are comfortable with. I love both and can shoot well with both but from a carry l perspective usually 9mm for me.
@Underground308 Жыл бұрын
If there's one thing I've learned over the 13 years of being a medic, placement is more important than caliber.
@nealcunnington8491 Жыл бұрын
Get both
@PapaMounted Жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@joak9755 Жыл бұрын
well, it depend on the caliber too. imagine two person, one get hit by a .22lr in the center of mass, the other get hit by a 9mm at the same place, the one who get hit by the .22lr have better chance of surviving the shot simply because of the energy of the round, because of the velocity of the ammo, a .22lr will exit the body and a 9mm will not in most of case
@strikerofstars7543 Жыл бұрын
But the same place hit with different calibers will often yeld different results.
@Underground308 Жыл бұрын
@@joak9755 I don't have to imagine that. Seen it plenty of times.. I'm not disputing the obvious. You are correct. However my position stands. More emphasis is owed to accuracy, not caliber.
@retrocny5625 2 жыл бұрын
That 80's retro intro is one of the greatest things I've ever witnessed in my life. As a child of the 80's, I applaud you.
@johnwurfel2862 2 жыл бұрын
CarniK Con called. He's proud of you, Mike. Real proud.
@peterblum613 8 ай бұрын
Charlie's pathological pathologist is brilliant. "I don't know if we can totally rule out a preexisting twerk injury."
@scooter5940 7 ай бұрын
Either of these rounds is gonna get the job done in terms of ballistics. For me, the lower recoil, greater capacity, and lower training cost of the 9mm make it an easy decision for concealed carry. I suspect I will add a 45, most likely a 1911 or similar, to my collection at some point, but that will be just for fun. But, that’s just me.
@baseballjoe06 5 ай бұрын
Oh he did
@billheathcock 2 жыл бұрын
Never been shot by a 9mm, but I have been shot with a .45 through the hip and out the back of my thigh. When I got to the hospital the doctor told me that nothing was as bad as the .45, He told me that high velocity rounds usually punched through the body clean but the .45 tumbled around (like mine did) and just wiped everything out. I got an artificial hip and a femoral rod out of it but a brilliant surgeon saved my leg.
@edwardschlosser1 2 жыл бұрын
My car gun is a .357 (9 mm) pneumatic pistol (20 inches long). It shoots a 106 grain round head slug at 820 FPS. For a close combat situation it has plenty of power (150 FPE) and the lower velocity I see as a plus. However, you should never trust the velocities they post on those boxes of bullets. If you don't own a chronograph you really have no idea of the true velocity. My guess is the .45 is shooting around 900 FPS, and the 9 mm is closer to 1100-1200 FPS. PCP's are not firearms and can be carried loaded in your car. I may be upgrading to a .45, but that carbine is slightly longer, however it is designed to shoot a 200 grain slug at around the same velocity (820 FPS). The gun that killed Abraham Lincoln had a muzzle velocity of 500 FPS. Minie balls had a velocity of around 800-900 FPS. Low velocity high mass rounds can cause significant damage.
@billheathcock 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike M. Ikr
@billheathcock 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike M. I can honestly say I wish I had been shot with a .45 cal. Airgun instead of a 1911 .45. ijs
@akeemthegreat1700 2 жыл бұрын
@Mike M. lmfao 🤣
@lordofantarctica142 2 жыл бұрын
You okay now buddy?
@slowrollinglow5498 2 жыл бұрын
"Dudes who support gun control, have wives who have boyfriends" very well said larry.
@timmcclary5137 2 жыл бұрын
HA!!!! YEP.
@debieaves4788 2 жыл бұрын
😂✔️😂
@lulapt2030 2 жыл бұрын
I suport gun control because the life of my wife black son matter
@scottkain8977 2 жыл бұрын
100% accurate
@OldSchoolParatrooper 2 жыл бұрын
@@lulapt2030 then you should support their right to defend themselves.
@tannerrose5203 8 ай бұрын
This channel is new to me, I just subscribed based on ur intro. The 80's montage was freaking awesome,😂😂😂😂 thanks man
@themudshark1106 8 ай бұрын
I have a friend who was a MASH medic in the Korean War. He told me he saw body's hit with 230 grain .45 ACP and that it blew big holes out of their backs.
@Kyleberserker 7 ай бұрын
Best comment yet. A man’s caliber
@Darthdoodoo 7 ай бұрын
Ball ammo will definitely break bones and rip big holes in a guy
@harrisonbuck2749 7 ай бұрын
Vietnamese kids are a lot thinner than these targets
@themudshark1106 7 ай бұрын
@@harrisonbuck2749 Did you finish high school?????
@menaceeli1313 4 ай бұрын
@themudshark1106 no i Don’t think he did
@faceless2302 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie is such a kind host letting Garand Thumb on his show to do science
@williambilse 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie is hilarious! I think he should get his own channel called pump finger. Like when you pinch your finger pumping up your crossman.
@pimpovic2 2 жыл бұрын
@@williambilse lol
@jimhamman2335 Жыл бұрын
It's always a difficult choice for me when it comes to which handgun I should carry. It's either my Colt .45 or my other Colt .45.
@flatebo1 Жыл бұрын
Why not both?
@MikeSpicyWinner Жыл бұрын
Yeah dual wield those warlocks
@louisdam7773 Жыл бұрын
Fr. Make a video duel wielding both
@pitchforkpeasant6219 Жыл бұрын
Especially if they’re able to fire the 45 schofield. If they can fire 45 acp too then they can handle the pressures of many more different rounds
@active_kahooter Жыл бұрын
-And 2 zig zags, baby thats all we need..
@101519e 5 ай бұрын
Cool. Always fun and informative these vids. Thanks
@tomanderson6233 6 ай бұрын
Great video. I recently switched from 45 to 9 based purely on ammo cost. Obviously, this video is fuel to the fire if you just want to argue. I walk away just feeling confident in both rounds.
@bellapeteboss 3 ай бұрын
Good choise
@scottnewsham2496 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely crazy, I was looking for 9mm vs 45 ACP videos last night and couldn't find any real good ones, and here comes Garand Thumb to save the day....😁
@armadilloeggs231 2 жыл бұрын
Nostalgic
@Number-xw7vx 2 жыл бұрын
me too
@natelax1367 2 жыл бұрын
You summoned a video from garand as well as all the spamming E-thots on the internet. Quite the skill
@platinumbrick6 2 жыл бұрын
Colion noir has some hilarious videos on it
@geebskerbal2771 2 жыл бұрын
You masochist……
@EriGon5 2 жыл бұрын
“Once the permanent suspension is up, I’m really hoping to go back” - Charlie The Medical Squire
@thespectator5259 2 жыл бұрын
I would like your comment, but it is happily sitting at .223 so I shall not disturb the balance.
@ryangalvin4701 8 ай бұрын
Love the fair analytics guys , great channel
@lintlicker4178 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video, informative and humorous as always
@C_MacShimidh 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1990's, I was in the Army, and I was sitting with some other non-coms who were having this debate early on. The heart of the discussion was being led by those of us who were actually reading up on ballistics at the time due to the Army's transition from .45 calibre to 9mm. My 1st Sgt. at the time, who was a Vietnam vet about to retire, was asked his opinion on the whole thing. He sat down his drink, thought for a moment, and answered, "Bigger fucking bullets make bigger fucking holes." I always thought that that was an interesting perspective. 😂
@pidevildog07 2 жыл бұрын
That's been my perspective for a long time because barring any other bullet design, besides fmj, all you're left with is the caliber/size of the projectile and what propellant is used to get to a certain velocity, of course along with other components and case designs. It's really the only truth, bigger bullets make bigger holes 🤷
@MALICEM12 2 жыл бұрын
From a military perspective, gaining double the ammo capacity and a reduced recoil in a weapon that is about the same weight out ways the .07" ish size difference. 9mm kills fine just as 5.56 does. Saying you NEED a .45 is like saying you need a 30-06 over the 5.56. Outside of the military, just use hollow points. If the exit wound looks like you hit them with a Desert Eagle, then it doesn't matter what the entry hole looked like.
@Greyhound706 2 жыл бұрын
Were there any other people that read it with a country accent
@Evan-nw8db 2 жыл бұрын
@@Greyhound706 the quote, yes
@joshuaputman8307 2 жыл бұрын
9mm might expand, but .45 ain't gonna shrink.
@ricardovalencia1790 2 жыл бұрын
I know slow mo cams are expensive but having one on the back side to see the bullet exiting would be very cool as well
@NLmonsterNL 2 жыл бұрын
u can film a mirror on a 45 angle ')
@medicalboneR 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine accidentally shooting a slow mo cam 😭🤣
@blackheartgaming6121 9 ай бұрын
Love it I've been watching you guys for years
@Tony-sf4ic 7 ай бұрын
The best comparison I have ever seen you dude rock thanks.
@notworthit7708 2 жыл бұрын
My one complaint with this test is that it completely ignores the FACT that whole milk is the apex of hydration. The fact that I had to even witness a man waterboarded with 1%? is appalling.
@mitchelllee75 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣It was an abomination!!
@GhenzieDC 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯
@petersmythe6462 2 жыл бұрын
Skim milk is objectively more hydrating
@sebastianriz4703 2 жыл бұрын
Water gang
@griff4899 2 жыл бұрын
Hear hear
@jodem974 2 жыл бұрын
Mike is a kind hearted human being for being an Equal Opportunity Employer to that nice slow kid.
@Ag3nt0fCha0s 2 жыл бұрын
You got it all wrong. Charlie is clearly the brains of this operation.
@oldschooljeremy8124 2 жыл бұрын
"My assistant, Beaker, er, Charlie".
@Mario-sw4en 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing with us.
@justhavingfun0736 4 ай бұрын
Great video. You guys always make them fun.!! The controversy continues…..
@spectre06x 2 жыл бұрын
I died laughing when Charlie said "Japanese don't like it"!! In Hawaii, a lot of the 2A community are Japanese and frequently make jokes about how they would have more cousins if it weren't for the .45ACP LOL. That comment always comes up during the centuries old 9mm vs .45 debate out here!!
@132oink 2 жыл бұрын
Is it a ww2 joke?
@robertthebruce7176 2 жыл бұрын
@@132oink yes, obviously.
@lonewanderer420 2 жыл бұрын
@@132oink no its a holocaust joke
@hahka-0168 2 жыл бұрын
There's a 2A community in Hawaii? Seems like it's pretty bad there when it comes to 2A...
@spectre06x 2 жыл бұрын
@@hahka-0168 This is Hawaii brah, laws are just suggestions. The 2A is alive and well out here.
@jaydoc0756 2 жыл бұрын
As a former medical student I can confirm that Charlie's coat is referred to as the 'short coat of shame'.
@TheFlashandFriends 2 жыл бұрын
I was an attending at a hospital that had the medical students wear long coats...it was weird.
@ColonelAli 2 жыл бұрын
At least you wear coats. The nursery sneers at us if we wear coats on duty in Sweden.
@thatoneguy985 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. The only thing gel doesn't account for is the interial damage from 45 auto. It's just a heavier bullet and the right loads can really hit hard
@justinmccarthy2089 10 ай бұрын
Love this guy. Mr Fudd daddy here: I have plenty of both calibers. I've been a student of ballistics my whole life. My view on this debate is this: I'll take a 45 with HST's or 230 FMJ at beyond 30 yards. 9mm with hp capacity at 25 yds or less. Not everything is based on a close quarters blazing gun battle where the hi cap 9 clearly wins the day. What's missing in this age old argument is that there's a reason troops had to make a level choice between the M1 and the 45 acp. The 45 acp shines at distances beyond the "blaze" CQB scenarios. It is ballistically similar to the 1860 army in that it can be an effective weapon beyond 50 yards. At 50 yards, I can still place a fatter plug in my target with a 45 - expansion or no expansion. But I wouldn't count on a similar terminal effect from an HST +p from my Glocks, Brownings, CZ's, Caniks, etc. at the same distance.
@kalashnikovdog6131 2 жыл бұрын
As the great warrior poet TheRussianBadger once said: "9mm kills the body but 45 ACP kills the soul"
@Toggers99 2 жыл бұрын
“Gotta make sure they don’t come back as a lich.”
@lonebikeroftheapocalypse9527 2 жыл бұрын
Made me chuckle. Thanks.
@butterbean7814 2 жыл бұрын
Duh, you don’t want them coming back as a lich
@andreivaldez2929 2 жыл бұрын
Miss when he used the .357 in BF3 and BF4. Good times.
@cerberus144 2 жыл бұрын
OUI
@AFlameofVengance 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard rumors that while 9mm kills the body, 45 ACP kills the soul.
@sethfrench8528 2 жыл бұрын
I bet that makes sure that they don’t come back as a lich
@admiralsnackbar2811 2 жыл бұрын
@@sethfrench8528 acktually that's not how liches work. Liches bind their soul within a phylactery before their body dies making them immortal. Shooting a liches body with 45 does not destroy their soul because it is no longer within their body. You must find and destroy their phylactery.
@gmag8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@admiralsnackbar2811 🤓
@blakevanness 2 жыл бұрын
@@admiralsnackbar2811 my dude really just said umm akshually☝️🤓
@mixter7x7 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakevanness glad you clarified - i was gonna ax a more pacific querstion
@kc8ncr 10 ай бұрын
The only point that you didn't mention which I believe to be very relevant is the time to get back on the target. In my training, I was taught that most gun fights only last a few seconds in which multiple rounds are fired. I trained with my full sized 45 as well as my cc Glock-36. A concealable 45 has a lot of recoil. After hundreds of rounds, my consistency with the cc 45 wasn't anywhere near as accurate for double taps. There may be a better choice for a cc 45 but training with a Glock-36 isn't fun. I tried lighter ammo but the whole point of training is to become proficient with a specific set of variables so light ammo doesn't really make much sense. I am very confident that I can put more holes in the center mass with a conceal carry 9mm than I can with a conceal carry 45mm. More holes faster wins. Your video did a great job of convincing me that I made the right choice. Thanks.
@madgxsrx8436 7 ай бұрын
At 17:27 the 45 went through and ricochet off the tie down & went up in the air . 2nd 45 shot hit the steal target . Great video guys .. Was not able to use your code for the game but I will play it seems alright .
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 2 жыл бұрын
This .45 acp ammo is unrealistic, it should be able to summon a P-51 Mustang that can destroy a Tiger Tank
@steveo1413 2 жыл бұрын
Nice reference
@731trident 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Miller says that you're earning it. Now go hold that bridge in Rumel.
@u.m.9931 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, bots be getting everywhere
@erichironsson8592 2 жыл бұрын
"Pistols put holes in people." "Rifles put holes through people" "A shotgun will rip chunks of flesh and throw it on the floor" -Clint Smith
@tristanwelch424 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, it was “ shotgun at the right range with the right load will physically remove a chunk of *shit* and throw that shit on the *floor*, but it’s gotta be the right load at the right range”
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
@@tristanwelch424 75 yards with a skeet load, didn’t do much, you’re right, double ought buck at 3 yards big ass hole.
@benallen395 2 жыл бұрын
My academy instructor turned me onto him the old thunder ranch, dude is crazy. Some of his videos you cant help but laugh hes just so savage
@erichironsson8592 2 жыл бұрын
@@tristanwelch424 excuse me for getting the gist of it from memory. 👍🏻forgiveness, please!
@zkittlezthabanditt604 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear that about the shotgun I just imagine some dude speedwalk up to a guy, shove his hand into his abdomen, and tear out his liver with extra bone and skin and just slap it onto the floor lol
@johnsilver7150 9 ай бұрын
You stacked the ammo in favor of the nine. I own both 9 and 45, carry 9 most because of capacity .
@jeffheyer7783 3 ай бұрын
Noticed this as well
@Lot-O-Guns 27 күн бұрын
Facts. Definitely wasn’t an even matchup on ammo choices.
@cyriaquecharles 4 ай бұрын
I am 77 . I have been shooting since I was 5. As I get older, the weight of the firearm and recoil of the round are playing a very important part. So I now carry either a Ruger .380 or a S&W model 640 with modern hollow point rounds.
@Durandalski 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, after seeing an awful lot of real gunshot wounds from a wide variety of bullets I do not place a lot of importance on the size of the pistol bullet. I have seen men killed dead by a single .380, and I have seen men with a gaping chest wound from a shotgun slug walk away. Ultimately lower velocity projectiles just make holes. If that hole perforates something important the target suffers the consequences, if it does not perforate something important they can pretty much walk away. Never ceases to amaze me how people can absorb round after round and walk themselves into the ER. Hollowpoints do quite a bit more damage than FMJ, because the expanded bullet is sharp and slices through flesh in a wider swath, cutting blood vessels and anything else soft in its way. My experience with FMJ wounds is that they seem to push things like veins and nerves out of the way and slip through the tissue between them without doing as much damage as you would expect. I have a surgery picture of the inside of my arm from my own gunshot wound where you can clearly see the bullet pushed a major nerve out of the way. the intact nerve intersects the bullet hole, impossible unless the nerve was literally pushed aside, which saved my hand from paralysis. Thank God the bad guy shot FMJ. The difference between all the pistol wounds I have seen and the few rifle wounds is night and day. There is a ton of trauma surrounding rifle wounds, which can appear like a large tear in the flesh, or a large bulge under the skin. After seeing everything I have seen I choose a good 9mm round every day. Lower recoil, higher capacity, and I trust it to do exactly what I have seen from every pistol bullet I have ever seen impact the human body.
@ThePatriotParadox 2 жыл бұрын
Carrying great loads are always a good idea, but even with fmj's if your a great shot and/or close distance they can be just as deadly. It's a roll of the dice.... But for optimal performance carry defensive loads... Big hot loads... That's what my GF likes!
@nfbsnandbsnnwjs662 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePatriotParadox 9 mil sucks bro thanks for the lesson about the topic with all due respect I’ve been shot by a 40 caliber around my lower legs I still feel it everyday it aches so bad happened a year ago is this normal it was a target round not hollow
@Durandalski 2 жыл бұрын
@@nfbsnandbsnnwjs662 That sucks bro, one of my rules of thumb is if there is no such thing as a flesh wound. When something pokes a hole in your body it fucking hurts and it does some kind of long term damage. I said my nerve was pushed out of the way and not severed, which saved me from paralysis, but that shock still did damage to the nerve. My hand is weaker, I have less sensation and fine motor control and I get painful aches. Mine was a 9mm fmj, no bullet hole leaves one unscathed.
@ThePatriotParadox 2 жыл бұрын
@@nfbsnandbsnnwjs662 9mm doesn't suck, just 40 cal(shorty 10mm) has more pressure and will feel it more in a not vital area, but if you get shot, even with a . 22lr it hurts I know... Just some more than others. 9mm +p HP would hurt like hell! If you get hit I'm a vital area, even a .22lr to the head, heart, or in your lungs will probably kill you. When I shoot a +P 9mm the recoil is about like a. 40 caliber. And a .22lr high velocity out of a 18 1/2” barrel is close to a 223 out of a 7.5” inch barrel.... Not too close but comparable. When it comes to pistol calibers, pressure and velocity is key, along with the slug type... But yeah I bet a 40 fmj hurts 🤕 worse than a 9mm fmj....but they both going to hurt, blow through ya, and make holes which if the hit veins and/or arteries, will make u spill some fluid
@jameandthegiantpeach2273 2 жыл бұрын
... didn't read the entire thing in fairness to me, but I agree based on what I read in the first few lines, I know a guy as we speak who was shot 13 times with an assault rifle, granted a few of the wounds were re-entry wounds, yet, I saw an episode of first 48 where the victim was shit with one single round of a .25 cal, and died from it...
@andrewrobinson4019 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie is the man we need in such trying times.
@icarusflight2396 2 жыл бұрын
Freaking funny dry humor! More Charlie!
@CraigGrunenfelder 2 жыл бұрын
I feel there was a missing Milton opportunity here
@deserthawk4178 2 жыл бұрын
Why is there gay guys on his t shirt. Makes me sad
@Miller_Time 2 жыл бұрын
@@deserthawk4178 shame
@D-1307 2 жыл бұрын
@@deserthawk4178 that shirt is awesome and I want one
@MrZonacat1 Жыл бұрын
Loved Charle and the information obtained. Thanks.
@roachgamingstream4461 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie Deserves a permanent position in the laboratory - he adds a bit of eloquence and class that has just been missing..... just ask japan.
@Motoboo_Marine 2 жыл бұрын
The fucking casual milk drinking had me rolling
@richardcuriel315 2 жыл бұрын
5:33 “the Japanese don’t like it” 😂😂😂😂
@Xxlibra1018xX 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardcuriel315 caught that too, got a hearty chuckle from me
@TictacAddict1 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie has perfect timing in response to your "Straight Man" questions. Excellent comic performance by the whole team in pursuit of SCIENCE!
@philipschmid9352 2 жыл бұрын
Im new, please tell me hes pretending to be stupid
@TictacAddict1 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipschmid9352 yes.
@scottcantdance804 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie is cracking me up
@snowdogs01 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottcantdance804 "Once the permanent suspension is up, I hope to get back to the library!" ...... Charlie the Squire.
@QuestioningLogic 2 жыл бұрын
Dude Charlie had me cracking up with his off hand comments 😂
@diyonthefly 6 ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative and entertaining. Nothing but confirming what I already suspected. Thank you for donating your time and $$ to the diy on the fly youtube educational learning program.
@trustnot9 3 ай бұрын
Great video, enjoyed watching.
@JoeMama-hl5qc 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever bumped your scope , and had to go out in the middle of the night, to double check zero. Hit that subscribe button.
@ThisisFerrariKhan 2 жыл бұрын
I was already subscribed but I hit the like instead. We all been there before 😂
@cmgeisleman9438 2 жыл бұрын
BOTS SUX ^^^^
@squidy4082 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to think a good mount shouldn’t lose zero
@ThiccNoodlez 2 жыл бұрын
“Charlie: I think the .45 will win. The Japanese don't like it.” I died at this point lmao
@thunderring8056 2 жыл бұрын
So did the Japanese.
@evanramirez3235 2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderring8056 😂😭😂😂
@shane270wby 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad I wasnt the only one who caught that 😂
@marksmith9176 5 ай бұрын
As LEO who has seen my share of GSW it comes down to a few things. FMJ vs hollow points, always go with hollow points. The reason being is accounting for your shot if the round exits the body. Of course hollow points are far less likely to exit the body in the torso. FMJ can exit go through a standard wall and enter a bystander. You should consider second shot placement. Because two is better than one. What I really mean is the time it takes one to recover from the first shot then reacquire the target and fire the next round on target. Finally which weapon one is the most comfortable to carry and which one do you perform better with. I like heavy pistols but that’s me.
@FallenFlag9 9 ай бұрын
Just bought my first 1911 in .45 ACP.... can't wait !
@brenstep1142 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest take- away from this video is the thought of how creepy/ interesting the world would be if humans were as translucent as the test dummies.
@scottashe984 2 жыл бұрын
They are translucent. They are full of shit. Some have more of it than others.
@thisguysnameismatt4460 2 жыл бұрын
Great, now thats how i am going to see people from now on....lol
@sebastianriz4703 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine watching someone's heart beating after a marathon
@nathanielyoungman4454 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianriz4703 imagine a fat guy's heart after mowing down a cake
@Terminal-Vet 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Awesome.
@Th3Shrike 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine using anything less than a pistol chambered in .50AE
@zekekoleski9240 2 жыл бұрын
Nah it's all about that 700 nitro express
@pyeitme508 2 жыл бұрын
That would be golden 😂
@Jupiter-Bringer-of-Jollity 2 жыл бұрын
"Well this is the .44 Automag, and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints." *squints menacingly*
@nated2922 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine that pistol not jamming after two rounds
@edelwei4193 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine using less than a 8.4cm "Carl Gustav" for concealed carry.
@Darthdoodoo 7 ай бұрын
I always heard it was easier to control your follow up shots with 9mm so u can put more rounds on target faster than something bigger
@scooter5940 7 ай бұрын
In general, but it’s also individual specific. If you can handle the 45’s recoil, terrific.
@mattmurphy7030 5 ай бұрын
@@scooter5940if you can handle the recoil of a .45 then you can handle 9mm that much better. 9mm simply has faster splits no matter who you are
@scooter5940 5 ай бұрын
@@mattmurphy7030sure, but that’s not really the point. Not everyone can.
@alfredeneuman6966 10 ай бұрын
The EDC pistols in 9mm are smaller and easier to conceal with low print and have good penetration. The fps velocity is as fast or faster than a .45. Good enough for me.
@bradleysmith9431 6 ай бұрын
9mm the most popular, easiest to find, and with PCC becoming popular you can have 1 type ammo for pistol and rifle. Most PCC also take pistol mags too. A 9mm coming out of a 16 inch barrel has the same force as a .357 magnum.
@seansterling5322 2 жыл бұрын
I saw an article recently that interviewed several ammo makers. I think it was Hornady, Norma and several others. They all said the same thing. As pistol caliber rounds move less than roughly 2000 FPS, the caliber doesn't really matter. The bullet design means far more. When a bullet moves above the 2000 FPS speed, it starts causing tears in the tissue and capillaries, up to 4 inches away from the permanent wound cavity. It is why .223 will cause far more damage than a .45. Below the speed barrier, you do not have that. So the diameter difference between .45 and 9mm is almost neglible as is the weight and ft/lbs of energy. Their recommendation based on their tests was find a caliber you can shoot well and find a bullet that reliably delivers the result you desire.
@dai2dai246 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, overpressure tokarev time
@peterdragon6367 2 жыл бұрын
.45 guys are gonna have a hard time with that
@NM-235 2 жыл бұрын
The fbi published an in depth study confirming this 2012ish. They included observations from trauma surgeons and medical examiners. This study informed their move from .40 p229 to Glock 17m. It also started the nation wide trend of departments dumping 40 for 9mm. The study also concluded that everyone from expert to novice shooters performed better with 9mm than 40 or 45 and that the higher capacity is thought to be an advantage in actual gunfights.
@vonfragesq7145 2 жыл бұрын
@@NM-235 I actually am more accurate and comfortable shooting .45 acp than I am with 9mm.
@Bonercondoner 2 жыл бұрын
22tcm should be the new 9mm
@UncleDon226 2 жыл бұрын
"I think the .45 is gonna win." "I mean, history has proven that it's pretty good, Charlie. Thank you." "The Japanese dont like it." >ded
@boognish593 9 ай бұрын
For me it depends. The recoil is greater with 45 but it’s a different type of recoil… seems more “spread out” or less instantaneous. In my tuned 1911’s I like a .45 over any striker fired 9mm( much better trigger, square bottom firing pin stop, more muzzle weight). In striker fired pistols I choose 9mm. As far as capacity I don’t feel uncomfortable with anything over 6 rounds so for me it’s nice to have 15 plus rounds but isn’t a deal breaker.
@joshmatlock3410 8 ай бұрын
10mm… 15 rounds and better velocity than both.
@terrythornock6468 10 ай бұрын
Good job guys!!! I wish you could have used Hornady Critical Duty 9mm and .45 ACP. I’m curious to know what the difference would be.
@jasonyes69 5 ай бұрын
I've tested those. In 9mm it's pretty good. In 45 I'd pick a different round.
@Fightosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the science from such a long distance away that I thought someone had finally cracked the secret of cold fusion and/or hot pockets. But this is nearly as good.
@beansidhe4358 2 жыл бұрын
Psst…air fry those hot pockets. Pass on the wisdom,
@lancefeagley1292 2 жыл бұрын
Mojo said he’s just here for the violence, but Dr. Thumb brings the violence every Sunday. Consistency is key
@ramborob9777 7 ай бұрын
I love my Glock and SIG 9's and am never out the house without them, but I do love my full size Kimber 1911 in .45 ACP. The power, accuracy and confidence it delivers is amazing. When we ran the 1911 at the range, the steel plates did not fair well and my wife knocked them off the target stand. The 9mm did not destroy the steel targets, but is accurate as well. I never feel out gunned with either platform. I just carry extra mags. And yes, ammo is key. Love your channel!
@nellsonstout7001 5 ай бұрын
If only you knew of the failures that Kimber 1911s are known for😂
@oxide9679 Жыл бұрын
I had researched the impact energy of the mil-spec ball rounds for both calibers a few years ago and found that, on average, there is only 25 Joules difference in impact energy between the two rounds. For comparison, if you flick your arm with your finger, that's about 17 Joules. So the difference is negligible. I didn't bother calculating the impact energies of HP or JHP rounds between the two calibers because I believed it would be too difficult to do simply on paper. I knew that the bullet diameters and velocities would greatly influence how that impact energy is transferred and individual bullet design would likely be an even bigger influence. Interesting to see that the difference is more or less negligible, regardless of bullet type. I personally carry 9mm for the same reason as Flannel Daddy. More rounds per magazine means less reloads. Reloads are a moment when you don't have rounds going downrange, which could get you killed. Reloads are also an additional point where you can have a stoppage or failure, which can also get you killed. I carry a Beretta M9, and it's significant weight eats up a lot of recoil, allowing me to get follow on shots downrange in less time.
@Silidons91 4 ай бұрын
Joules of energy doesn't matter in this debate. You have almost 2x as large of a hole with HST ammunition: "While the 147-grain Federal HST expanded from 9mm (roughly .35cal) to on average 15mm or .61-inches, the .45 ACP expanded from (again, roughly) 11.5mm to 25mm (.45-inches to 1-inches)." From pewpew tactical.
@oxide9679 4 ай бұрын
@@Silidons91 Which is exactly why I didn't and couldn't calculate it using HP rounds. Far too many variables. Each type of HP ammo on the market behaves slightly differently. They all expand differently, even among the same brand.
@leeburks4540 4 ай бұрын
Elmer Keith liked big holes because of bleed out. The Roman gladius was deadly because of it's 2" wide blade. Roman-era re enactors learn that the cut wounds but the stab kills, due to bleed out. Even 2" of blade penetration is considered deadly if 2" wide. Comes down to personal preference. If you like the book, it says 'let every man work out his own salvation with fear & trembling.' I'm an old fudd, I will bet my fate on JM Browning, personally.
@oxide9679 4 ай бұрын
@@leeburks4540 When your life is on the line, you don't have time to rely on bleed out. Plus, there are a bunch of different factors that make individual bleed out rates entirely unique. Muscular, muscle density, blood pressure, heart rate, body fat, etc.
@mv223 3 ай бұрын
@@oxide9679 The .45 has more shock value to it. You may not have time to wait for bleedout, but it's still good to have.
@Fredninja22 2 жыл бұрын
I love the complete confusion on Garand's face when Charlie says something random
@phantomlord3280 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I was pretty blown away by the performance of the 9mm. Been a .45 guy my whole life and after watching this I’ll stay with .45
@Gam1ngGor1lla Жыл бұрын
Would you say that your lungs were blown out of your body?
@SpicyCactus Жыл бұрын
@@Gam1ngGor1lla nope, but my coom was blown out of my cock though.
@donkeydonkey8681 Жыл бұрын
It is incredibly important to carry 45 if you often miss the 5 ring by 1/32 of an inch. Critical.
@Lesmore187 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@MrScubajsb Жыл бұрын
Is it just because it's bigger? I've only ever had nine millimeters and just recently bought my first 45. Picking it up tomorrow. I can't wait to shoot it!
@Capt_OscarMike Жыл бұрын
This is why, for my family, we started with the infamous Official Red Ryder, carbine action, 200-shot, range model air rifle, with a compass in the stock THAT TELLS TIME but after being robbed, bound and gagged decided to evolve to the Remington 12-Gauge Pump... Blowing holes into perp's is fun.
@tlloyd9325 Жыл бұрын
The two things I’ve bought, shot, and gotten rid of are the 9mm and the 223(5.56). I just like bigger holes to start with!
@adamlopez5060 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love my Springfield 1911. It doubles as a blunt weapon once I unload every round. Nothing like a 9 lb mag well coming down onto someone grape
@sninctbur3726 2 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, good luck getting close enough to pistol-whip your opponent in a gunfight.
@os7349 2 жыл бұрын
@@sninctbur3726 could always have a last stand. I'd rather have a 1911 then some plastic junk to swing at someone's head.
@grant8171 2 жыл бұрын
@@os7349 this is the most fudd shit I’ve seen today
@wolfgang_h3t 2 жыл бұрын
@@os7349 I'd rather not be the dumb ass trying to pistol whip someone because I ran out of ammo
@jasondubois404 2 жыл бұрын
I literally bought my first .45acp on Wednesday. It’s a 1943 Colt Government and I’m totally in love with it.
@frankarchibald732 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sssoooo jealous 😍🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
@CantoniaCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
I'm buying my second 1911 but I'm building it in 9mm w/ a ramped barrel for extra spicy 9 major loads.
@10milliBuddha. 2 жыл бұрын
How much did that run ya.
@danielyoung8910 7 ай бұрын
This was awesome! Thanks Doc! LOL!
@user-hp5wo3db3j 8 ай бұрын
I’ve shot someone with a 45 acp 230g ball in the thigh, a 9mm hollow point in the right front shoulder, and a 5.56 in the right hipbone. All worked, but the 45 was the instant stop in my three cases. It’s just a shock transferring round.
@JohnnyQ 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly such a good video. Great job!…you too Charlie..
@Burpingpp 4 ай бұрын
No comment
@joshmonus 3 ай бұрын
Good question
@fudge417 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the secondary commentary from your assistant, really makes the video a lot better and I absolutely laughed my ass off so thank you sir
@smeissner328 2 жыл бұрын
"Dudes who support gun control have wives that have boyfriends"
@RockyRodesy 9 ай бұрын
When I think of a 9mm, mainly a compact polymer platform comes to mind. 45 acp, I think, 1911 and all metal. Comparatively, the tiebreaker would be if my 1911 jams, I can still knock a few teeth out with it. I own both. Summer time 9mm. Winter 45.
@charlesolrich5898 9 ай бұрын
The 9mm has come a long way since it’s inception. Regardless, I’d hate to be shot with either round! Bad day either way.
@bpmgaming3351 Жыл бұрын
Charlie's sense of humor is golden. He plays the "kinda weird guy" so well. Mans had a gallon of milk as his drink 😂😂
@erelat Жыл бұрын
Did you notice the music cuts out a few times right as he is about to talk?
@peacelove8085 Жыл бұрын
Bruh the fricken Cheeto fingers did one notice 😂😂😂
@DyingBreed1776 11 ай бұрын
"Did I just cream my adult diaper bro??"
@olplainface1299 11 ай бұрын
I think the 45 is gonna win........... the Japanese don't like it.
@Yom_Bristol 11 ай бұрын
mans an absolute cringeord hope he never has kids
@joshuabrown4030 2 жыл бұрын
So we finally know why both rounds are effective; the 9x19 because it does a number of soft tissue at high velocities, and the 45acp because it specifically hunts down and breaks every bone in your body that it can find. Jokes aside, some dramatic results. I wouldn't want to get hit with any of these.
@ErichDeSchepper-cx1ju 6 ай бұрын
I love and own multiple of both. You ALL are correct 👍
@mariontinsley8646 4 ай бұрын
I do thank him for using the same ammo type for each pistol, so the comparison is relevant. I've lost count though the years of the videos comparing modern 9mm ammo with old milspec .45 ball ammo. Shoot whatever caliber
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