Anytime Paul. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.

Anytime. It is useful once you figure it out. But they don't make it easy.

Anytime Khalid. Best wishes.

Anytime Rory. Best wishes.

Anytime Jeff. Best wishes.

Anytime Max. Best wishes.

Anytime Andy. Best wishes.

Anytime Martyn. Have a good ride.

Anytime Dennis. Best wishes.

+Jim McCallie Anytime Jim. Thanks for the support. I really appreciate it. Best wishes.

+Tim Salt Anytime Tim. Best wishes.

JoeWaZoo1 Anytime Joe. I should have some US trips with my new job so if I'm around TX we'll get a bear. It's a deal.

PY Cote Anytime mate. Best wishes.

***** Anytime Paul. It's good software once you get past the initial learning curve.

Anytime Adrian. Best wishes.

Marc Philippo Anytime Marc. The software is actually pretty good once you get past the initial learning curve. I've had some great rides using planned routes from the internet and magazines.

Thrust sst Anytime. I've found that using Tyre can be problematic because the maps it uses don't match the Garmin maps that well. BaseCamp works well once you figure it out.

Thomas Malloy Anytime Thomas, have a good trip.

Anytime Kittyhawk. I hope to make some more videos soon. Best wishes.

Anytime Kittyhawk. The route creating process is not really intuitive (except if you are me it seems) so I've tried to explain it in logical steps. There should be more content soon once I get my act together.

Thanks for the feedback Peter. Best wishes.

Anytime Paul. Best wishes.

MK Biker Anytime mate. Ride safe.

Anytime Jeff. Best wishes.

You need to change the activity profile to "Driving" then it will snap to the roads. It's currently set to "Direct" which is only useful for your helicopter.

Paul Baruga If you clicked "Navigate to the start of this route" when you started it will keep re routing you back to the start point of the route. If you didn't click "Navigate to the start of this route" when you started it will try and navigate you to the closest waypoint or instruction to your current location. It will keep doing that until you cancel the route. If you pick up the route then it'll continue navigating the route from that point forward. It's easy to cancel the route if you deviate from it and easy to resume also.

+Si Spence Just for other peoples reference, the maps are on your device so when you plug it into the PC they should be available in basecamp. There is an option when installing Basecamp to install the maps to your computer as described here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oKefhbGa29OYcnU.html

Thanks for the feedback John. That's interesting that you can only see additional maps when Garmin Express is running too. I have only got experience working with a single map so I don't have any advice in that respect. I think Garmin were trying to figure out ways to prevent users using maps on multiple devices and computers. Using Map Source, one map code could unlock the map on as many computers as you liked so maybe they are trying to reign that in.

+MuddySump Most likely you are zoomed too far out when you are placing your navigation points. When you are zoomed out even if you are only slightly wide of the road it'll think you want to go down a side street. Try zooming in or place Waypoints on the road and create a route from them using this video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gMeGjcx61Zm4Z58.html

+jobybyrne zoomed in close and wasn't even clicking very far between points to see if it made any difference. I'll have a look at the other video

Hi. There is some confusion around the terms really. A device can only navigate a route. If you upload a track to a device it's not navigable. You can create a route from a track but not the other way round in my experience. I'll look at creating a video showing the differences soon.

Anytime Travis. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.

Thanks for the feedback. I want to make some videos on Garmin Explore but I have some other projects to finish first.

Triambic pentameter Basecamp typically uses the map from your device so in order to see that plug your device into the computer and the map will refresh with more detail, or you can select the map from your device from the drop down list once it's connected to the computer. I describe that in more detail here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oKefhbGa29OYcnU.htmlm45s. With some of the newer devices you can install the map to your computer as described at the start of this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oKefhbGa29OYcnU.html.

+jobybyrne Hi, i've now sorted the map, thanks. just need to work out how to plan a long route and make changes now :) I like the function in googlemaps where i put address for start and end points, then the route is automatically calculated and then i drag sections to make any changes. does basecamp offer anything similar please? i've been pressing buttons all morning ! :)

+Si Spence If you look at this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gMeGjcx61Zm4Z58.html which describes how to plot a route from Way Points you can specify an address for the 1st and last waypoints then use the route tools to manipulate the route.

On the Windows version of Basecamp after you have finished panning around, select the *Insert Point* tool then hover over the last point you plotted. You need to do a bit of precision mouse work but when you get it right a black target will appear around the point. Wjen you see that, left click and then you can continue plotting. Also get a look at the Live Stream I made on BaseCamp for windows. I go over it all there.

Nose2wind You won't get directions unless you export the route to your device. If you want to create a route from Via Points I have created a separate video here.

That's the plan but I'll need to acquire some more devices and work through the process for those. I want to create a resource for the full range of products but I'm still figuring out how to go about doing that.

That's great, i've got an eTrex 30x and have found the best way is to create a route from waypoints, although you have to watch you don't exceed the limit. Creating a route from a track doesn't really work as basecamp throws up different distances when using driving/motorcycling etc. Most cyclist's want a unit that can give turn by turn but it's very hard to get that working properly.

Just moved the pointer over the three dots on the left of each group of tools. Then you can drag and drop them to rearrange with the left mouse button.

@@JosephByrne Thank you Joseph the ONE thing I didn't try...Thanks again

@@jameseby-ny3eu Anytime. Best wishes.

+Robert Taylor Hi Rob, from what I remember that means that it won't alert you when you are passing a Way Point. E.g. "Passing 11 Queens Gate on the Right." It will give you the route directions though to navigate you on the route. You should be able to turn this setting on on the device if you want each Way Point to be announced.

+jobybyrne Thanks for yet another quick reply. I think after reading your reply it will still give me voice commends to turn right, left etc in my bluetooth headset but it will not tell me in the voice commends when i approach a waypoint so is that correct? Regards, Rob

+Robert Taylor Yes that's correct. You should be able to set the proximity alerts on your device. For example you can turn the safety camera alerts on from there and also warnings if you are approaching a school zone. Navigation instructions will still be heard regardless of your proximity alert settings.

+Robert Taylor Many thanks for your advise & very quick replies. Please keep making videos as you are a natural at it & with an excellent teaching method. Because of you I now consider myself an advance user of Basecamp! Best wishes Rob Taylor

+Robert Taylor Thanks for the feedback. I really need to give the channel more of my time but work gets in the way. I hit 500,000 views today though so that's a sign to give it more focus. Best wishes.

+Michael Wilkinson That's strange. I just updated to 4.5.2 and it's there under View --> Toolbars --> Edit features. Maybe if you update the latest version. Are you using a Mac or PC?

Excellent Question. So I did a bit of research and figured this out just now. The insert point tool actually has 2 functions (wish I'd included this in the video). So here's the procedure. 1. Select the route you were creating in the list. 2. Click on the "Insert" point tool. 3. Hover the pointer dead centre over the last point on your route, after a small delay a dark circle will appear around it (have patience). 4. Left click and you can continue plotting.I wish I'd known that about 6 years ago. Best wishes.

jobybyrne Thx so much for the quick response. I do a lot of map routing for our motorcycle group and missed that feature in base camp.......until now. Awesome!!!

Me too. Up till now I'd been trying to create 100 mile plus routes without making any mistakes. It was hard work. Thanks for prompting me to figure this out.

If they are considered to be roads they should be navigable. If they don't appear as roads you can still navigate them using the Offroad driving profile so long as you plot via points.

I don't really understand what you mean. You can contact me through the About section of my channel and we can do a screen share or something. It's probably something simple to fix.

Yes that's correct. This method, and some of the others on my channel, enable you to choose the roads you want to ride and have the Garmin navigate you on them.

Thanks. I'll check them out.

Can you send me the route? My email address is in the *about* section of my channel. I'll get a look at it and figure it out.

Doesn't want to let me email you on your www. address!

It's my channel name then 28 at hotmail dot com.

+Inkerman1980 When you connect the device to the computer and fire up Basecamp you should see the device in the library panel on the left. Under the device you'll see a folder called "Internal Memory." Select that and all the tracks and routes on the device will appear in the section underneath. Select the tracks you wish to delete and press the delete key (or right click "delete."). This should remove the tracks (or active logs) from the device. If this doesn't work message me and I'll look into it further.

+jobybyrne Hi Joby, thanks for your reply. Have attempted this procedure previously but yet again even with your direction it fails to delete the "Active Logs" in the "Internal Storage" window, (I believe this is to be your described "Internal Memory"). When I right click on any one of the tracks an "Open" window appears with the following descending list:... Show on Map... Playback... Send To... Sort By... Copy... GeotagPhotos Etc.......... If I right click delete or delete from the keyboard, nothing. My original assumption has been that these tracks can be directly deleted from within the Nav V, I guess this is incorrect.... My overall concern is that the unit is filling up with many unwanted tracks. Does this have any significant impact on available memory within the unit?

+Inkerman1980 This may help!! advrider.com/index.php?threads/bmw-navigator-v-issues-solutions-thread.993042/

Hi Delwin. Are you using a Mac? There are some differences between the versions. Also a lot of the toolbars are hidden when you first fire up Basecamp. You can activate them by going to View --> Toolbars. The Edit features and Drawing Tools toolbars are the ones I use most in this video.

Yes I do have a Mac, that could be the reason. Thank you again for you video.

Hi Al. I know exactly what you mean. When you view the overall route on the device and zoom out all you can see is a load of giant flags. I don't think there is a way to change that sadly. I think the symbol for Waypoint is fixed.

mark the way point/right click and top left you change symbol. It will change all way points you selected

When you kick off a route and choose a Waypoint as your next destination, the device will navigate you to that point and then commence the route. It effectively navigates you to your chosen start point so you can ride your route as you may not be at the start point when you set off. You can also choose a point half way if you'd rather start the route from there.

Thank you for the information. So in this case, my start point is my home address and there are 5 or 6 points along the way. If I select the first point (which is my house), the route I planned will continue all the way to the end without any intervention from me? In other words, when I view the route in my Garmin, each point begins with the green GO! button. When I start my route from my home address and my vehicle reaches each point the route will continue uninterrupted?

Yes. You'll see in this video at 3:18 I'm not actually on the route, however, I pick a start point and the device navigates me there and then kicks off navigating the route. You'll see later in the video at 3:41 I pass a Waypoint on the route and the device doesn't stop it continues to the next one.

+jobybyrne Thank you so much! I truly appreciate your thorough and accurate instructions. I will try out one of my custom Basecamp routes tomorrow and see if it works like I planned it. I have a six hour journey. I also created some custom routes in Google maps and exported the .kml file as you detailed in your other video. I do think I prefer the Basecamp method since there seems to more route control available. I found it difficult to correct a route in Google Maps if I made a mistake. But it may be that way since I'm still a neophyte with this. :-)

It's on my list. The procedure is almost identical as the video I made for Mac, just the interface is slightly different in Basecamp.

@@JosephByrne Great - thanks.

Have you connected your device to the computer so you can see the detailed map?

Plug your device into the computer then the navigable maps on the device will be available in BaseCamp.

@@JosephByrne Hi thanks for the quick reply I have spent many hours trying to get it to look like a google map with detail but it just looks bare, I cant show you a picture but it looks poor compared to your map lol

@@BikingAdventuresandRoutesNI I think you need to increase the level of detail. There is a drop down menu you can use to select a greater level of detail then you'll see more streets.

@@JosephByrne hi ya I will look at it shortly

@@JosephByrne Hi I have more detail but it looks nothing like yours. Thanks for all your help I will play around, just dont know why its like that. Cheers though.

andi watt It should do. If you look on the device to see if it has a trip planner that's a good indication that it will work.

I looked in the trip planner but nothing is there. I tried putting my GPX map manually on the computer into the GPX folder, but I can not find it back when I use the device. It´s so strange...It´s a Garmin Nuvi 154...so maybe not the right version?

Hi. I looked up the specs and unfortunately the Nuvi 42 doesn't include "Trip Planner" which is the app that is required to import and work with routes. I looked up the specs here buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/automotive/previous%20models/nuvi-42lm/prod120958.html. Any device that has trip planner should work with the method described in this video. I'm not aware of any work arounds as such. On the device you could set a route destination then choose another destination and add it to the existing route as a via point to build up a route but that is not ideal.

Thanks so much. I'll try what you suggest but will probably get another one. Not online this time.

I thought I'd let you know I've just bought a Garmin nuvi 57LM for £26 on ebay [It has a Trip Planner] from USA so fingers crossed and thanks again I'm nearly 80 years so you are now an honorary member of "Help the Aged"

Anytime Matthew. I want to do more of these videos and I have a plan as there is a lot you can get out of these devices. Best wishes.

Have subscribed ..looking forward to future ideos

Have you tried changing the settings on the device? There may be a setting to avoid minor roads. If you change the route calculation settings to avoid highways and remove any other restrictions it may stop sending you back on the highway.

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+Danny D Hi Danny. Yes, there are 2 options. 1. Plug your device into the computer with Basecamp running, this will load the full map from the device, although you'll need to have your device plugged in all the time when working with the map. 2. Install the map to the computer as described here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oKefhbGa29OYcnU.html. Best wishes.

Thank you. I "think" I'm getting somewhere. On both my laptop and PC I installed the version of Basecamp that didn't have much of a map. On my PC I hadn't installed Garmin Express yet. So I uninstalled Basecamp, installed Garmin Express and did to install Basecamp with that. Right now I've got about a half hour to wait. Hopefully this does the trick. Thanks a ton. I deliver oversize freight. They give us the route to take. A wrong turn here can be a fine of $50,000 US or even more. I'm comfortable within a few hundred miles of my home because I know the roads. My GPS never lines up with my route though. So I'm not very comfortable when I get to far away from home. On my laptop, which is what I'll be using on the road, even with the device plugged in I didn't get much of a map. Ideally I'll be able to get the complete one on there if I can get this figured out on the PC here. Once again thank you.

And an add on- I got the full size map on my PC. So that worked. Next will be my laptop. Thanks again.

+Danny D Anytime Danny. Best wishes.

I had that problem too, learning Basecamp is an exercise in frustration for sure. I found out I was able to highlight two routes (or more), right click, and there was a "combine routes" option.

It can be frustrating but it's rewarding when you get it right. Thanks for the "combine routes" tip, I hadn't seen that before.

Hi Jim, Where did you right click from? I think I'm having the same issue when creating routes as I plot it sometimes takes on a mind of its own and will go in another direction.

Jim selected two existing routes then right clicked and had the option to combine. I'm not sure if that's the same issue you are facing though.

From their website "IBM-compatible computer running WIN Vista x64 and later. App cannot be installed on Win 7 (no SP) as this is not compatible with .Net framework 4.6" So if you take it literally it can't be installed on Windows 7 unless you have installed a service pack. I think that's what (no SP) means. If you install the updates you should be all set.

I downloaded BaseCamp and it seems to be working fine. It doesn't say anything about Google maps. I am not familiar with Google maps so I am really at a disadvantage. Just got the Garmin two days ago and am trying to get used to it and making a trip route which I could do with Streets and Trips. I'm 72 and still learning :)

The Google map procedure is just popular because lots of people are familiar with Google maps. You can do everything in Basecamp with a bit of patience to get over the initial learning curve. Once you've got a feel for it you'll be flying.

It works on Win 10 Spring 2018 Edition too

On the device go to *Apps --> Trip Planner* and they should be in the list there. If it is an older device go to *Where to --> Custom Routes* and the routes will be there. If you don't have options for Trip Planner or Custom routes your device may not support custom route planning.

​@@JosephByrne Thanks so much for the reply. I should say first I use the current version of Base Camp and Nuvi 2455 (2014) with 8.30 current software. In Trip Planner, the only routes that are there are those you create yourself within Trip Planner. I have several in there based on saved waypoints. Using Trip Planner, i get undesired results. Creating routes within Base Camp, I accept the results and they are saved on the list on the left side. With the Nuvi plugged into the PC, i transfer all the waypoints and the routes appearing at the bottom. I see a yellow and then green checkmark showing the data transferred. Unplugging and starting Nuvi, I see all the waypoints as Saved items, but no routes appear anywhere in the device. Did they not transfer? I tried Send To Device for each route and that didnt help. When I try to select a waypoint as a destination, it creates the undesired route result and there is no info or way to select a route I planned and saved and transferred. Whats wrong? I spent almost 7 hours today planning a trip for tomorrow, and the only thing I can think of to do is take a laptop in the car and manually follow the route created in BaseCamp. This makes no sense! Why do I have a GPS?! I searched the web and Garmin help pages but there is no info about how to access and use routes created in BaseCamp, just abundant info about how to create routes.

Ok so I thin the routes aren't being imported automatically. So go into Trip Planner, click on the three bar menu on the top left and select import routes. The routes you sent to the device should appear in a list and you can select them all and import them. Once imported they will be available to navigate on the device within the trip planner app.

@@cvcoco If it's still getting nowhere we can look at on skype later.

When you are finished plotting if you press *Escape* it will finish the route.

+Fabrides Have a look at the settings on the device, the route calculation mode and avoidances on the device may conflict with the route you've plotted so it will take you off course.

+jobybyrne ok Thank's very much for the tips and your response ! Should i let it without avoidances you think ?

+Fabrides Yes, turn off all the settings that will influence the route.

+jobybyrne ok i'm going to try and let you know ! thank's 2 times ;)

+Mark Bushell Hi Mark. Send me a screen shot, (email can be found on the about page) or we can set up a screen share or something.

Double click on the route on the left hand side. Change the activity profile to "Direct" and let the route recalculate. Change the activity profile back to "Driving" and it will recalculate to follow the roads.

Thanks what i did instead before I noticed your response was a software upgrade. That did the trick too.

I tried this, nothing works, no matter what activity I choose or however you explain, it only shows a straight like from point to point. no roads

beatnikfly7 you also need to be using a "routable" map or Base Camp will ignore the roads.

jfsssp Base Camp only shows a Global map What's a routable map?

Once you get used to it, there's nothing to it. I'll admit it takes a while to get up to speed but after that you are all set. All the serious tourers I know run Garmin. Get a look at the live stream I created more recently. That is a more up to date explanation.

@@JosephByrne will do thanks, Ive been using an app based product on my iphone but as soon as i get out of range of cell towers its useless. thanks again. i'm puylling my hair out at the moment

do you have a live stream for PC? only see it for MAC

@@TwoIndians yes, right here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNBngbqmubDYn2w.html

That's so you can start the route from part way round if desired.

On older units like the Zumo550 you just ride onto the route and it'll pick up from there. No need to tell it anything. I do it quite frequently. Same as when I've missed a turn and navigate back onto the route. (I have auto recalculate turned off). Massive retrograde step on these latest units.

It does that also if you stray off the route and reconnect with it. Having the opportunity to choose which way point you want to start from is an extra feature. It's convenient if you want ride directly to a point mid way around the route for example. I've owned a 550, 660 and 590LM. Each has been an improvement over the last if you take the time to learn how to use it. I do miss the 550 for nostalgic reasons though.

OK so it takes the place of "Do you want to navigate to the start of the route" on older units. I suppose I see it has a use. Tomtom Rider 410 has a similar "feature". Does it give you view of them on the map (as tomtom does) rather than on a list? I'm thinking that in the middle of France you might not always know which one you want to start at unless you can relate it to where you actually are.

In that case go to the preview map screen and you'll see the Way Points in order along the route. Or just hit that Way Point and get the unit to start navigating from there then press the top of the map screen and view the route map to see where you are relative to where your bike is, the next via point and the wider country.

Does it have the trip planner App or the custom routes option. If it's not following the planned route that's usually down to the route structure. I can help with this and do a Skype meeting.

+Mark Bushell Find my email address in the about section of my channel and send me a screen shot. I'll get a look at it and see what I can do. We can possibly do an online meeting also.

Thanks for the feedback. Feel free to post a link to your superior video here.