Garry Kasparov vs. Deep Blue: The Chess Battle For Humanity

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This is the Garry Kasparov and Deep Blue chess match of 1996 and 1997. Before the days of Alpha Zero, Stockfish, Leela... there was IBM's Deep Blue.
0:00 Intro
0:32 1996 GAME 1
7:02 1996 GAME 2
10:17 1996 GAME 6
14:27 1997 GAME 1
18:57 1997 GAME 2
25:22 FINAL GAME
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@badalkoirala
@badalkoirala 3 жыл бұрын
Back then Engines were accused of using players and now players are accused of using engines.
@mykonos466
@mykonos466 3 жыл бұрын
good times
@rengarora.f.k3452
@rengarora.f.k3452 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dducksquad lmao
@blunderbus2695
@blunderbus2695 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dducksquad My, how the turn tables
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 3 жыл бұрын
lol true
@philippebaillargeon5204
@philippebaillargeon5204 3 жыл бұрын
Basically AI vs brute force. Brute force is the shittiest approach you can use to solve a problem while AI in this case is the best best approach.
@FefeElChat
@FefeElChat 2 жыл бұрын
"You'll notice that he plays a reverse Grunfeld" Me, 600 elo: mhm yes of course
@SpiceLettuce
@SpiceLettuce 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the… reverse garfield?
@sanukayjayawardana9786
@sanukayjayawardana9786 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpiceLettuce no grunfeld
@SpiceLettuce
@SpiceLettuce 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanukayjayawardana9786 that’s the joke, you see. It implied I was so inexperienced that I did not understand what he was saying.
@Matthew-pc3zx
@Matthew-pc3zx 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanukayjayawardana9786 r/woosh
@Noir0rioN
@Noir0rioN 2 жыл бұрын
I always play the modified double helix (but only if white opens with horsey jumping the mini-phallus). Fun side note: "check, mate?" is also widely used in Australia on paydays. #themoreyouknow.
@DanjasLP
@DanjasLP 2 жыл бұрын
Garry in game 3 straight up went: Garry: "Draw?" Deep Blue Team: "Nah" Garry: "It's treason then"
@mercanerkan2891
@mercanerkan2891 Жыл бұрын
so... you have chosen death
@ExclaimThePain
@ExclaimThePain Жыл бұрын
Second wtf
@catboybinary
@catboybinary Жыл бұрын
third wtf
@ComplexityUnleashed
@ComplexityUnleashed Жыл бұрын
fifth wtf
@brineoconnor7491
@brineoconnor7491 Жыл бұрын
4th wtf...?
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 Жыл бұрын
Watching in December 2022, I'd love to see GMs of today take on these old engines.
@Makowako_
@Makowako_ Жыл бұрын
Yes
@adamkings4124
@adamkings4124 Жыл бұрын
Same
@JohannesMariaRunge
@JohannesMariaRunge Жыл бұрын
Because they have learned from the machines as well...its insane.
@mihalymoravszki1874
@mihalymoravszki1874 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@unbearablepun8608
@unbearablepun8608 Жыл бұрын
@@JohannesMariaRunge it’s crazy watching these and how Garry adjusted his play so quickly to counter the deep blue’s play style. His brain took him 1 or 2 games and he knew exactly what he had to do if he wanted to win at the time. AI’s today could never be trained that quickly even with the number of ‘neuron connections’ rivaling the human brain. It’s just a cool thing to think abt i thought
@davidmikan7925
@davidmikan7925 3 жыл бұрын
2021: this human is cheating with an engine 1996: this engine is cheating with a human 😤
@gamingwithglasses4544
@gamingwithglasses4544 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that’s a good one moving on
@AngeloBassComposer
@AngeloBassComposer 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment on the board.
@gamingwithglasses4544
@gamingwithglasses4544 3 жыл бұрын
@💯 Qwonklet 💯 a cultured one
@dhruvjain7934
@dhruvjain7934 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@dotmashrc
@dotmashrc 3 жыл бұрын
oooo kinky
@jacobshahwan3820
@jacobshahwan3820 3 жыл бұрын
"I drew a treadmill" This is what true advancement looks like
@thebus3181
@thebus3181 3 жыл бұрын
I drew a horse
@theinnerwaffle5887
@theinnerwaffle5887 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebus3181 Why are you playing chess with your mom?
@thebus3181
@thebus3181 3 жыл бұрын
@@theinnerwaffle5887 I am confused what does this mean
@tristian14
@tristian14 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebus3181 he called your mom a horse
@thebus3181
@thebus3181 3 жыл бұрын
@@tristian14 Oh thanks
@RichardGadsden
@RichardGadsden Жыл бұрын
I really wish we could have seen Garry stay on long enough to play Magnus on his way up: Garry vs Magnus in 2010 or so would have been magical.
@princedavid5075
@princedavid5075 9 ай бұрын
Nice
@patrickmadden6340
@patrickmadden6340 5 ай бұрын
They played when Magnus was 13 to a draw
@user-bk9fk2tq2z
@user-bk9fk2tq2z 3 ай бұрын
I think Magnus would've won. I think that Magnus is a better player than Garry.
@iamxaryan
@iamxaryan 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-bk9fk2tq2z but not with ease. They again played against each other in 2020, it ended up as draw... Magnus at his one of the best phase vs Garry at his one of the worst phase... They both are at same level but due to generation gap, Magnus is slightly better than Kasparov.
@shashishekhar----
@shashishekhar---- 2 күн бұрын
​@@user-bk9fk2tq2zAt their both absolute best Kasparov is better than Magnus
@Randomguy-fu2et
@Randomguy-fu2et 2 ай бұрын
"hey im watching in 2024" wtf I had a heart attack when you said that
@BerkSonmez69
@BerkSonmez69 2 күн бұрын
SAME OH MY GOD
@furfox4099
@furfox4099 3 жыл бұрын
“I drew a treadmill” - Levi Rosman, International Master
@user-tb8lg5jo1u
@user-tb8lg5jo1u 2 жыл бұрын
Is he a painter?
@smite327
@smite327 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tb8lg5jo1u yup
@PianoBoyLiam
@PianoBoyLiam 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Levy Rozman, not Levi Rosman. But he is an IM, so you got that part right.
@cosmonut-fr
@cosmonut-fr 2 жыл бұрын
@@PianoBoyLiam its Levy Rozman not rosman ok? Its better not to mess with anyone's name
@cosmonut-fr
@cosmonut-fr 2 жыл бұрын
@@PianoBoyLiam sorry but i wanted to reply to the main comment, mistakenly replied urs hehe
@stefanmirea5305
@stefanmirea5305 3 жыл бұрын
"There is a treadmill out there that plays better chess than you" sounds like the worst insult you can ever hear
@therranolleo468
@therranolleo468 3 жыл бұрын
that's some Ramsey level insult right there
@alienrenders
@alienrenders 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching these games live at work. Seemed like you had to wait forever for a move. And then several times, the web site would crash and you'd have to go on usenet to find the next move. Everyone was using Fritz to analyze the games. But you needed a fast computer. I remember there being talk about one game that Kasparov resigned which was not lost (forget if he could have drawn or won). I think it was in the rematch. The rematch was really weird. Kasparov was acting very paranoid. He was trying to get the computer out of opening book instead of playing chess. He lobbed accusations on nearly every move. It didn't send a good vibe. It was almost as if Kasparov knew he was going to lose. It was a big moment when Deep Blue won because people were asking what the future of chess was. Would people still play? It signified a new era where computers were officially better players than humans. This scared a lot of people. Not for chess. But in what would come next.
@technicalmaster-mind
@technicalmaster-mind Жыл бұрын
So it can be concluded that Garry was egoistic
@seancrow6967
@seancrow6967 Жыл бұрын
Skynet.
@darkside7603
@darkside7603 Ай бұрын
Stop yapping
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 Жыл бұрын
Garry made the classic blunder that has been the downfall of countless powerful people; He underestimated his opponent. Trying to exploit the unique features of chess-playing computers was smart, and it mostly worked, but he put WAY too much confidence in his own understanding of how computers played and it backfired, he took lines he otherwise never would've taken just in an attempt to exploit their novelty and he paid for it when the computer didn't react as he expected it to. But I suppose he figured that the computer would have the advantage in positional play due to being able to calculate so far ahead and it was worth the risk? Even though there were games where his strong positional play won him the game?
@anastasiadudette706
@anastasiadudette706 Жыл бұрын
Deep blue: "It's over Garry I have the advantage" Garry: "You underestimate my power."
@theangry0077
@theangry0077 Жыл бұрын
id say that positional play would be better than tactical considering the limited depth, it wouldnt be like today’s stockfish which can see 25 moves into the future in seconds. however, even its limited depth would be enough to counter most tactics but probably wouldnt be enough to fully gauge how powerful positional play can be. just a theory tho
@vwlz8637
@vwlz8637 10 ай бұрын
humans v machines of then be like "hehe this piece of trash thinks it can play better than me?" humans v machines of now be like "teach me, sensei"
@_qwerty_3545
@_qwerty_3545 9 ай бұрын
I would actually completely argue against this. My info on the situation may not be entirely accurate, but in a documentary I watched, it made a point of detailing that deep blue after the first match was specifically trained to beat Kasparov. The AI used training data from a ton of Kasparov games so he’d know how to respond to Kasparovs normal moves. Since the AI knew all his moves, Kasparov switched up his tactics and had to play differently. Not to mention, Kasparov had every right to assume his tricks that had worked in previous matches would work as the only reason they didn’t was because in between matches the ai was actively being updated, taking out any bugs and the such so he had no real choice but to refind out what he could continue to exploit and what was no longer possible. Frankly I don’t see it as overconfidence at all, I actually see the opposite. I believe that all the constant changes to deep blue, the over serialized environment, and the inability to use his comfortable play style had given Kasparov a ton of anxiety causing him to play not at the top of his game, leading to his constant resignations and loss.
@theTman423
@theTman423 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested in how the engines work: Brute force, used by Deep Blue and Stockfish alike, is simply just traversing a decision tree and evaluating every possible position with an evaluation function, or a mathematical equation that gives a score for each position. Stockfish is just able to do this a lot faster, because it does this with alpha-beta pruning, or skipping some branches of the decision tree because the score on others is high or low enough that it doesn’t need to evaluate every position. AlphaZero however, learns like a human by remembering patterns that lead to wins and storing them in something like a database to use for later. This is how it “learns” like a human does and seems to be more creative than other engines. It basically taught itself chess by playing against itself millions of times in order to build this database of moves. It’s a little more complicated than that, but those are the basics.
@sadenuttie2234
@sadenuttie2234 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@hero3926
@hero3926 3 жыл бұрын
Really wanted to like the comment but i prefer 69 likes. Nice
@aldoyudhistira5424
@aldoyudhistira5424 2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong in some points, Stockfish are more human. Human didn't remember the position and play by memories, maybe they remember openings, but not for the middle game thinking. Human think like Stockfish, finding what way to win the game, evaluating if the move is good or not.
@adbon6279
@adbon6279 2 жыл бұрын
​@@aldoyudhistira5424Humans are more half and half and theres good saying that shows this, "Play the opening like a book, the middlegame like a magician, and the endgame like a machine". Humans in the endgame are like stockfish, they brute force calculate and remember winning scenarios, but in the middlegame, humans *need* to play intuitively. If your opponent is much weaker than you, then ofc you can just brute force it, but when youre of equal skill, esp at high levels of play, you arent going to out calculate your opponent, you need to be able to jsut understand and recognize winning patters through intuition, which is what AlphaZero does.
@aldoyudhistira5424
@aldoyudhistira5424 2 жыл бұрын
@@adbon6279 alright, agree then.
@zahawolfe
@zahawolfe 3 жыл бұрын
“I drew a treadmill” is hilarious
@jaydenp3078
@jaydenp3078 3 жыл бұрын
timestamp?
@kekaci
@kekaci 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaydenp3078 30:34
@MikePWJr
@MikePWJr 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaydenp3078 30:11 for context
@marcuspoosz2190
@marcuspoosz2190 3 жыл бұрын
i once drew a wolf. suprisingly i didn't get eaten for dinner
@SteveInLava
@SteveInLava 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuspoosz2190 you drew a wolf in a fight? In that case you'd both be dead
@wealthyllama6570
@wealthyllama6570 Жыл бұрын
"When you or I push 3 pawns of opposite sides of the board, we look stupid. When Garry does it, he's y'know, trying to beat a computer." S+ tier quote.
@Shockprowl
@Shockprowl Жыл бұрын
Your historical deep-dives are really quite excellent. I haven't seen KZfaq chess videos like this before. It's a really clever format of covering the entire 'event' in question, giving a commentary on the over-arching events, and nipping through some of the most important games. A superb format, and very informative. Thank you.
@youtubeviolatedme7123
@youtubeviolatedme7123 3 жыл бұрын
Player: *breathes* Levy: "clearly, they are familiar with the Gothamchess video on effective breathing during chess"
@albericponcedeleon2696
@albericponcedeleon2696 3 жыл бұрын
Effective breathing you say? Surely, this must be a JoJo reference!
@gamingwithglasses4544
@gamingwithglasses4544 3 жыл бұрын
Next up on Gotham chess: How to beat a treadmill.
@cookiekilbane5989
@cookiekilbane5989 3 жыл бұрын
Quality comment
@Jimmy-vu8dj
@Jimmy-vu8dj 3 жыл бұрын
@Usemilter bro but.. idfc
@dudeevarun
@dudeevarun 3 жыл бұрын
Total concentration breathing?
@anrel_
@anrel_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love how genuinely he delivered the line "I drew a treadmill."
@ZDTF
@ZDTF 20 сағат бұрын
Hey pretty lady!
@ross-spencer
@ross-spencer Жыл бұрын
Gary's instincts in the first series after that first loss seems to be to think like a computer until he's able to add his own flourishes, this is pretty amazing to see.
@tauriqobrien7869
@tauriqobrien7869 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video - It's Aug 2022 and I seeing this for the 1st time! I heard about Garry Kasparov vs Deep blue when I was in high school. Never thought I could actually "see" the matches. Thanks for sharing
@jacokyle0160
@jacokyle0160 3 жыл бұрын
Gary Chess vs. the Fax machine. Truly a legendary battle
@valguthcsongor5263
@valguthcsongor5263 3 жыл бұрын
Was it really that hard to spell Garry right?
@joshuacheung1066
@joshuacheung1066 3 жыл бұрын
@@valguthcsongor5263 it’s a fucking joke you nonce
@shaicontrol
@shaicontrol 3 жыл бұрын
@@valguthcsongor5263 no his name is Gary Chess and he invented Chess in the 90’s
@vez3834
@vez3834 3 жыл бұрын
@@valguthcsongor5263 Good thing he spelled Kasparov correctly
@ari3903
@ari3903 3 жыл бұрын
@@valguthcsongor5263 You spent Gary wrong, do your homework before you correct people. His real name is "Gary Chess", he was a close friend of the famous biologist Zangiuli L. and his biggest achievement was inventing chess.
@DanielPetri
@DanielPetri 3 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating to watch with modern engines in mind, thanks for taking the time to research all of that Levy!
@vycthorjhonson6624
@vycthorjhonson6624 3 жыл бұрын
Não esperava vc por aqui
@mlgklipz2543
@mlgklipz2543 3 жыл бұрын
@@vycthorjhonson6624 no
@roycbiv
@roycbiv 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for suggesting it!
@wyleFTW
@wyleFTW 2 жыл бұрын
When he's like "my computer is still debating a draw in this position" DUDE YOUR COMPUTER IS LIKE 30 YEARS MORE ADVANCED, I understand kasparovs frustration more lol
@ricksouza9299
@ricksouza9299 2 жыл бұрын
boa corno
@picapow6959
@picapow6959 Жыл бұрын
It’s not “2024” but it is indeed 2022, almost 2023. Excited to see how your channel evolves :)
@unflexian
@unflexian Жыл бұрын
speak for yourself it's 2023 for me
@user-kx8pu6ys5i
@user-kx8pu6ys5i Жыл бұрын
@@unflexian yeah, what a nerd
@JScaranoMusic
@JScaranoMusic 4 ай бұрын
It's 2024 now.
@sceptiledash2181
@sceptiledash2181 4 ай бұрын
it is 2024 lol
@christobita8038
@christobita8038 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching 8 days before Christmas 2022. I'm not even big on Chess, I just loved your personality when I saw you on Lex's podcast.
@FakerUp
@FakerUp 3 жыл бұрын
I am not stronger than Deep Blue You are not stronger than Deep Blue He is stronger than Deep Blue
@edoardoprevelato6577
@edoardoprevelato6577 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but nowadays nobody can beat AlphaZero. Carlsen has been begged to play it countless times but never accepted because it would only result in him losing.
@prohz9129
@prohz9129 3 жыл бұрын
@@edoardoprevelato6577 Not playing an engine because you’re going to lose? It’s not like you’re going to lose rating right?
@charleymiller7674
@charleymiller7674 3 жыл бұрын
Deep Blue is not stronger than Deep Blue
@Anoyzify
@Anoyzify 3 жыл бұрын
@@prohz9129 because it’s pointless. He can’t win his smartphone chess app, nevermind alpha zero.
@exodusdonley77
@exodusdonley77 3 жыл бұрын
@@prohz9129 If you go into a game knowing you're 100 percent not only going to lose but be embarrassed at the same time, the only thing that will come of it is frustration and a potential loss of dignity. In other words, it would be stupid to. Would you personally do it in his place, for the entire world to analyze?
@Dog3D
@Dog3D 3 жыл бұрын
"you cannot capture your own pieces" *surprised Pikachu face*
@KhallDrake
@KhallDrake 3 жыл бұрын
The USA with drones in Afghanistan: Hold my beer!
@Smitology
@Smitology 2 жыл бұрын
chess: friendly fire on
@Icy-ll5ie
@Icy-ll5ie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smitology WHERE'S MY LASAGNA JOHN?
@austinfletchermusic
@austinfletchermusic 2 жыл бұрын
Would be kind of cool if you could as long as you couldn't be forced to. Imagine the SuperGM self-sacs
@buddermonger2000
@buddermonger2000 2 жыл бұрын
there's a variant which allows you to do so
@TeamDman
@TeamDman Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your content, I found your KZfaq reels after getting into chess from chesssimp's content. You have such a great personality and bring so much enthusiasm that makes it so fun to watch. The engine related stuff is very interesting to me as a cs grad. Watching in Summer 2022 :D
@shutton
@shutton 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I'm watching in September 2021. loving the leela and stockfish content, really hoping you make more of that. and you are awesome too, dont stop being awesome gotham.
@mathsolympiadtrainer
@mathsolympiadtrainer 3 жыл бұрын
Levy not wearing a hoodie is a rare sight...
@hamdanalameri2885
@hamdanalameri2885 3 жыл бұрын
RIP LEVY
@noammosek1319
@noammosek1319 3 жыл бұрын
He isn't honouring the hoodie guy
@marinzovko3258
@marinzovko3258 3 жыл бұрын
Gary is playing Deep Blue. His shirt is a deep blue color. Coincidence? I think not.
@TheDecree93
@TheDecree93 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a shiny Levy
@katana7186
@katana7186 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDecree93 yes the regular levy is pink hoodie
@Sponetics
@Sponetics 3 жыл бұрын
Levy we love you please dont die of sleep deprivation
@alexbeserra
@alexbeserra 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍👍👍
@akashi221
@akashi221 3 жыл бұрын
Again huh 😂😂
@guccigang6984
@guccigang6984 3 жыл бұрын
We love the CONTENT WE LOVE ITTTT
@fractalinfect3454
@fractalinfect3454 3 жыл бұрын
LULW
@lanci2154
@lanci2154 3 жыл бұрын
@Jannes Ebeling shut up nerd
@isabellam1936
@isabellam1936 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a remake of this video putting on the evaluation bar. It would be fascinating to see what Stockfish thinks about all these old computer engine moves and Garry’s moves.
@michaelcaron5756
@michaelcaron5756 2 жыл бұрын
Watching oct 3 2021 and you’ve def covered some high level chess computer games at this point! Love the channel!
@Mdude123456789
@Mdude123456789 3 жыл бұрын
"Every Time I Lose Against This Treadmill It Speeds Up" sounds like a video I'd watch
@gray_gogy
@gray_gogy 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the fear in the software engineer sitting across from Kasparov
@Nolaris3
@Nolaris3 Жыл бұрын
Funny story was that after Kasparov resigned Game 1 he asked the engineer what he could have done better and the engineer was like "uhhhhh..."
@VoidLantadd
@VoidLantadd Жыл бұрын
@@Nolaris3 like a 400 hiding behind stockfish beating a good player online today
@vwlz8637
@vwlz8637 10 ай бұрын
@@VoidLantadd except he made a fucking chess engine in the 1990s so definitely several magnitudes of IQ higher than ur average cheater
@diegorocha2186
@diegorocha2186 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Much better than many content on netflix!! Amazing the way you told the story! Thanks!
@constantinedelvecchio7110
@constantinedelvecchio7110 10 күн бұрын
Watching in 2024 :) Loved it
@idnbbeatbox
@idnbbeatbox 3 жыл бұрын
“I drew a treadmill” - Levi
@chikachinedum3073
@chikachinedum3073 3 жыл бұрын
Levy
@maxkho00
@maxkho00 3 жыл бұрын
@@chikachinedum3073 Леви
@sudarsankunde4862
@sudarsankunde4862 3 жыл бұрын
Levy uploads quicker than how quickly I blunder my queen.
@darkagedrifter
@darkagedrifter 3 жыл бұрын
As a guy that blundered his queen early on in a Scandinavian Defense against the 700 bot because I didn't feel like using my brain on Nelson or whoever the 1500 bot is, I felt this much more than I should.
@luayabuhani2004
@luayabuhani2004 3 жыл бұрын
We guess your comment deserves to be pin ..pin of shame chain
@sadmanpranto9026
@sadmanpranto9026 3 жыл бұрын
I am a 300 player, i sacrifice queen to take a pawn...
@InTrancedState
@InTrancedState 3 жыл бұрын
Youre gay
@raphaelpalmeira4472
@raphaelpalmeira4472 3 жыл бұрын
and even more quickly than how I finish on my queen 😏
@carvingtheway
@carvingtheway Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated bro... Ur vids r very informative and awesomely fun to watch.... 💯🥂
@Noodlezz95
@Noodlezz95 Жыл бұрын
hey levy I went back to this video bc I wanted to see the analysis for these games again, and I must say, I kinda miss this kind of videos. I also like what you do right now though, I don't want you to change, but you know, it's nice to see how much channel can change in just a year
@moustafa_1994
@moustafa_1994 3 жыл бұрын
"But nowadays a computer like deep blue can get defeated by a refrigerator" lololololol
@noobiamyes4853
@noobiamyes4853 3 жыл бұрын
Its true modern hand held calculators have more computing power then a room full of computers like 60yrs ago
@killerbug05
@killerbug05 3 жыл бұрын
@@noobiamyes4853 the 1990s weren't 60 years ago, I hope you know that
@noobiamyes4853
@noobiamyes4853 3 жыл бұрын
@@killerbug05 computers were invented in ww2
@killerbug05
@killerbug05 3 жыл бұрын
@@noobiamyes4853 fuck you on about bro?
@noobiamyes4853
@noobiamyes4853 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinaylalwani im not talking about strictly chess like 60 yrs ago they had rooms stuffed with computers has less proccesing power then a calculator
@gaspytheghost
@gaspytheghost 3 жыл бұрын
30:35 "I drew a treadmill" Just think about that for a moment
@rodrigornovaes
@rodrigornovaes 3 жыл бұрын
It depresses me and makes me want to quit chess, I mean, why bother?
@mohammadfletcher5312
@mohammadfletcher5312 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigornovaes you should play chess only because you want to
@desmonides
@desmonides 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta get dem laps in
@michaelsmith6094
@michaelsmith6094 Жыл бұрын
April 2023 now. I'm going to look for more of your videos about computer chess. Love your explanations and insights!
@gastonsosa5261
@gastonsosa5261 8 ай бұрын
from 2023, still waiting for that video
@filipporosatti6243
@filipporosatti6243 3 жыл бұрын
*Mandatory comment to thank Levy for his insane upload schedule*
@bryansanchez8158
@bryansanchez8158 3 жыл бұрын
Mandator reply saying something stupid Cripple glasses man
@guccigang6984
@guccigang6984 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Levy‼️‼️
@lugh6982
@lugh6982 3 жыл бұрын
HEYYY, HE DID YOUR SUGGESTIONNN
@jtplays193
@jtplays193 3 жыл бұрын
*insert mandatory comment here*
@oblivion.4274
@oblivion.4274 3 жыл бұрын
Deep blue: You can't beat me Me: I know, but he can *Garry Kasparov*
@remarkgulane3851
@remarkgulane3851 2 жыл бұрын
Magnus can😂
@fheenicks
@fheenicks 2 жыл бұрын
@@remarkgulane3851 big can
@SneakyDrizzle
@SneakyDrizzle 2 жыл бұрын
@Simone Miglioli He won the first time but lost the second time, that calls for a third time.
@saripdol1943
@saripdol1943 2 жыл бұрын
Kasparov lose the rematch though ..such a shame coz the much anticipated 3rd rematch never took place and it affected Kasparov quite a bit i think so lol
@coomerlad3293
@coomerlad3293 2 жыл бұрын
I know but he can: treadmill
@Beachdude67
@Beachdude67 7 ай бұрын
Kasparov had a legitimate gripe about this match. The programmers added openings to the database during the match, which they were not supposed to do.
@izainonline
@izainonline 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for making my desired video what I was looking❤
@nks2405
@nks2405 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s ugly but it does the job” -Levy Rozman 2021
@radekstejskal9127
@radekstejskal9127 3 жыл бұрын
-My parents after reproducing
@FREDDYHUNTER34isnotliquid69420
@FREDDYHUNTER34isnotliquid69420 3 жыл бұрын
Me at the corner of the hood
@sunwookim5046
@sunwookim5046 2 жыл бұрын
@@radekstejskal9127 lmao
@PurpleAmalgam
@PurpleAmalgam 2 жыл бұрын
@@radekstejskal9127 rip
@mrgambit5504
@mrgambit5504 3 жыл бұрын
2021: Garry Kasparov vs. Dewa Kipas
@truthseeker1934
@truthseeker1934 3 жыл бұрын
2022: AlphaGo Chess Edition vs Dewa Kipas
@mingozzz1
@mingozzz1 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha this is golden
@mingozzz1
@mingozzz1 3 жыл бұрын
For 7000 dollars
@hokray
@hokray 3 жыл бұрын
He was probably using the 🐟
@abhi739
@abhi739 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful commentary on chess, gothams knowledge of tactics is astounding
@noahjorgensen586
@noahjorgensen586 2 жыл бұрын
Love these historical events in chess. Great storytelling!
@saksxmusic
@saksxmusic 3 жыл бұрын
the last time i was this early Levy wasn't playing competitively
@gordonramsdale
@gordonramsdale 3 жыл бұрын
He still isn't I mean it isn't a preference where the classification is instant, he is going to be competing but not yet so technically he isnt competing
@nado7592
@nado7592 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordonramsdale stfu
@nado7592
@nado7592 3 жыл бұрын
@Nate Bekin I’m not talking about what he said, I’m just getting annoyed at his broken English, if you’re gonna troll somebody at least learn how to speak.
@theblinkingbrownie4654
@theblinkingbrownie4654 3 жыл бұрын
@@nado7592 If you got annoyed by their broken English you got trolled lmao, they did their job perfectly
@nado7592
@nado7592 3 жыл бұрын
@@theblinkingbrownie4654 you do realise that he is 100% being serious, but hes just an idiot and bad at english?
@pinicius
@pinicius 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard "brute force" I realised that Kasparov was a genius. He went for the long game because there is too much to compute when you are in the endgame. That's why he only "improve his position". To get a better (and harder) position for the computer analyse. It was not a battle of chess. It was a computation stress test with chess envolved. Modern chess engines are so hard to beat because the computer no longer computes everything like back then. It does not have to. It learns moves, positions and strategies like we do, just faster and in bigger volume. Great video.
@fos1451
@fos1451 2 жыл бұрын
Stockfish still use brute force, I don’t know what you’re talking about
@somebodyuknow2507
@somebodyuknow2507 2 жыл бұрын
@@fos1451 Stockfish uses a much smarter brute force - it doesn’t check literally every possible line, it’s much better at saving computational power by only checking the best lines (this is called alpha beta pruning). This comes with the consequence that it still can’t solve some niche positions where a sacrifice has really long term benefits
@shmockette7158
@shmockette7158 2 жыл бұрын
@@somebodyuknow2507 Didnt deep blue do this too? It's mostly just a difference of computing power.
@gayusschwulius8490
@gayusschwulius8490 2 жыл бұрын
@@somebodyuknow2507 Move pruning has been in use since the late 70s. Algorithms have gotten better, yes, but the essential approach is still exactly the same. The only thing not "brute force" about modern stockfish (since 2020) is it's evaluation function (so the function that determines the final value of a position at the end of a tree branch). It uses machine learning, but that's it.
@DoubleCDOT
@DoubleCDOT Жыл бұрын
Me
@mononokehte
@mononokehte 9 ай бұрын
excellent coverage
@Chippoka
@Chippoka 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your narration/commentary on this 😃
@vjbragae
@vjbragae 3 жыл бұрын
Next video: The Day I Play Against a Treadmill
@tiituskarimies1667
@tiituskarimies1667 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@seanohara5754
@seanohara5754 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously if we don't get this video I'm going to be very upset
@KKSportsKKS
@KKSportsKKS 3 жыл бұрын
When I went to bed. Levy uploaded. I just woke up. Levy uploaded again. Legend.
@Alsadius
@Alsadius Жыл бұрын
That last game in 1996, and Kasparov suffocating the enemy play, reminds me a lot of your discussion of how AlphaZero plays. Interesting to see these themes echo.
@bishalguitar9717
@bishalguitar9717 3 ай бұрын
Sammy bro u did a great commentary.....i learn many more from ur channel ....thanks sammy brother.....
@Low_Marine
@Low_Marine 3 жыл бұрын
yo yo yo wait up is that man wearing a " Deep Blue " shirt ? Levi u beauty
@kevinhansen9258
@kevinhansen9258 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love how Levy interacts with his viewers literally saw a comment on his last vid wanting him to do a vid on gary vs deep blue and thought that would be cool and now here it is🙂
@davidphalen9239
@davidphalen9239 3 жыл бұрын
So sick I saw that comment too
@HondaMan0
@HondaMan0 3 жыл бұрын
It was the Garry Kasparov vs kid Magnus Carlsen
@DanielPetri
@DanielPetri 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I was about to thank Levy, it's the second time he takes my suggestion! :) Funny you noticed haha!
@ianmoore5502
@ianmoore5502 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidphalen9239 yesss gang gang
@scoutbane1651
@scoutbane1651 3 жыл бұрын
Yep same, really glad to see this video
@iggles8
@iggles8 Жыл бұрын
"A treadmill. I drew a treadmill." hahahahaha
@brysonstevens1431
@brysonstevens1431 2 жыл бұрын
These long term drag out games are so beautiful to watch.
@lex4302
@lex4302 3 жыл бұрын
Levy, please do more on these types of games vs engines. They're fascinating! Particularly the overall history and timeline where, after 2006, they effectively stopped scheduling matches because the computers were too strong
@mujtabaalam5907
@mujtabaalam5907 Жыл бұрын
What's the last serious official human vs computer game?
@abyssmage6979
@abyssmage6979 Жыл бұрын
@@mujtabaalam5907 hans niemann vs magnus carlsen
@mujtabaalam5907
@mujtabaalam5907 Жыл бұрын
@@abyssmage6979 Normally that joke would be funny, but Chess youtubers have accelerated things and "Hans Niemann cheated against Magnus" jokes are already unfunny
@imperatormaximus8952
@imperatormaximus8952 Жыл бұрын
@@mujtabaalam5907 I know I'm late, but I think Kramnik vs Deep Fritz 2006 might be it.
@pschneider1968
@pschneider1968 3 жыл бұрын
"I drew a treadmill" Wait until you get beaten up by your coffee maker...
@youknowit-Arpit
@youknowit-Arpit 5 ай бұрын
This is one of those very matches i knew about prior to starting chess.Its quite interesting as well as distressing to see humans as capable of intelligence as 'Garry , the then World Champion' to lose to a mere machine imparted with humanity's data & thinking in general.This match is a good reference to this date covering the idea of the eternity,i.e., 'A.I.' as of its relevance in current time.
@longshotny
@longshotny 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done and entertaining 🔥 salute ‼️
@notapplicable7292
@notapplicable7292 3 жыл бұрын
"I drew a treadmill" that line is an absolute classic
@alexheffron3963
@alexheffron3963 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Levy drops these UFC fighters names as analogies makes him my favorite chess KZfaqr
@TowelExpert
@TowelExpert 2 жыл бұрын
"Down the rabbit hole" Has a fantastic video on Deep Blue and it's games against Garry Kasparov.
@arvin4856
@arvin4856 Жыл бұрын
“you cannot take you’re own pieces” chatgpt thinks otherwise
@matteoprojetto1587
@matteoprojetto1587 3 жыл бұрын
Day 43 of translating the title in Italian: "Garry Kasparov contro Deep Blue: la battaglia per l'umanità".
@IlSigPin
@IlSigPin 3 жыл бұрын
Mi fai morire, sei su ogni video ahah
@tronquitoanimations2882
@tronquitoanimations2882 3 жыл бұрын
@@IlSigPin day 3 of translating the title in spanish in comments about translating the title "Garry Kasparov contra Deep Blue: la batalla de ajedrez por la Humanidad "
@maxencepalin-riot1161
@maxencepalin-riot1161 3 жыл бұрын
"Garry Kasparov contre Deep Blue: la bataille pour l'humanité"
@Pedro-op6zj
@Pedro-op6zj 3 жыл бұрын
@@tronquitoanimations2882 day 1 of translating the title in portuguese in comments about translating the title to spanish in comments about translating the title to italian. "Garry Kasparov contra Deep Blue: a batalha de xadrez pela humanidade".
@goldeer7129
@goldeer7129 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pedro-op6zj day 1 of translating the title in french in comments about translating the title to portuguese in comments about translating the title to spanish in comments about translating the title in italian. "Garry Kasparov contre Deep Blue: La bataille d'échec pour l'humanité"
@sumwon6973
@sumwon6973 3 жыл бұрын
This really just shows how amazing Gary Kasparov that he almost beat a computer of this caliber, and probably would have won the match if he understood this computer‘s play better
@s.s7337
@s.s7337 Жыл бұрын
He did win the second game
@tomgrimard8075
@tomgrimard8075 Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos, I'v been watching them since 1990
@honzidlo3937
@honzidlo3937 Жыл бұрын
February 2023 and I love watching the legendary chess engine beat the world champion for the first time. It is also very interesting how chess engines work now vs before
@Chepperz
@Chepperz 3 жыл бұрын
"When you or I push 3 pawns on both sides, we look stupid when Garry does it.." omg 😂😂😂
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone hasn't watched the Fredrik Knudsen video on the background to these games then set aside a spare 2 hours to watch the most wild chess tale you could imagine.
@fort809
@fort809 3 жыл бұрын
The story about Kasparov’s mother yelling at him from the audience when he accused the computer of cheating is amazing
@dionsbrother4343
@dionsbrother4343 9 ай бұрын
Hey, I`m watching in 2023 and I use your video to prepare a training session for my students about chess history. Thank you for your work! 🧡
@briankarcher8338
@briankarcher8338 Жыл бұрын
Even to this day it's a sight to see the greatest player of the time lose in such a brutal way like that last game. It was ruthless.
@Vtari
@Vtari 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how back then you could accuse an enigne for cheating by a human brain
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 Жыл бұрын
How the turns have tabled.
@AstraIVagabond
@AstraIVagabond 3 жыл бұрын
The look of anxiety on Levy's face when he tells the treadmill story. Are we in an early stage sci-fi dystopia?
@manictiger
@manictiger 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I consider it. All it takes is some faulty programming or a virus, and all the sudden, a bunch of our military gear starts targeting anything with a heat signature. Like... Us.
@RoyalFusilier
@RoyalFusilier Жыл бұрын
I have talked with friends and we basically agree that we're in Early Cyberpunk already. We don't have the coolest aesthetic nailed down, but all essential elements are in place.
@brootal01
@brootal01 Жыл бұрын
Not 2024 but 2023 😎 great content as Always. It’s always a blast to search through the archives
@talkwordy3065
@talkwordy3065 2 жыл бұрын
Watching in December, 2021! I enjoyed this.
@richardforshaw7883
@richardforshaw7883 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content Levy. I can recommend reading Kasparov's book "Deep Thinking" which explores the two Deep Blue matches (and the complete change in attitudes for the rematch) as well as a general history of chess computers and thoughts on intelligent machines. Very interesting. Apparently the day after game 2 in 1997, Garry's team discovered that he didn't need to resign....
@Lucasschepers
@Lucasschepers 3 жыл бұрын
It's insane that when Levy these days tries to beat computers, he plays a hippo type set up like in 15:11, and Kasparov was already doing that in 1997.
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis 2 жыл бұрын
For different reasons. Levy uses an hippo because it is what delays the game the most, forcing the cheater to use his time up and lose before the engine does anything. Kasparov used the hippo because he wanted a long game as he saw that is the weakness of the engine. Levy would never win using an hippo against an engine these days with classical time control, as the engine would eventually break his defense open, it only works in rapid or blitz games. Then again the comparison isn't fair because today's engines are much better than deep blue was in 1996/1997
@Jartran72
@Jartran72 2 жыл бұрын
@@Obi-WanKannabis In Blitz maybe. Rapid? No way.
@MrMrMadMax92
@MrMrMadMax92 2 жыл бұрын
I got here 4 month after you posted this video. And i learned a lot
@obmarte3803
@obmarte3803 Жыл бұрын
So what I learned from this... treadmills are terrifying 😳
@pewpewpandas9203
@pewpewpandas9203 3 жыл бұрын
Gary after Bishop e4 in the second game: It's evolving O_o
@kanmeo
@kanmeo 3 жыл бұрын
For the uninitiated (a very simplified explanation): The principle by which the deep blue "AI" was built was mostly a combination of brute force calculation and pruning. Brute force means that you test every possible combination to a certain depth of moves and determine which move combination guarantees the best outcome. Pruning you could describe as more intelligent brute force, where you don't evaluate moves that you know beforehand are going to be bad. What makes the alpha zero AI at the same time both less computationally intensive and so much better is that it does not hard force any solution like deep blue does, instead it is built using a so called "neural net" which most modern AI is based upon. The engine basically has a lot of parameters built in, and then it plays against itself and other AI's and adjusts each parameter each match it plays, so it basically learns pretty much like a human would without access to books or the internet, through trial and error
@MorbiusBlueBalls
@MorbiusBlueBalls Жыл бұрын
thank you for this info kind stranger
@kowikowi8718
@kowikowi8718 10 ай бұрын
So maybe getting your room pawns Out First ist the best move cause of peuning Alpha Zero didnt even considers IT?! Wow
@stephengunnell5048
@stephengunnell5048 Жыл бұрын
This is late 2022 and interestingly while Deep Blue was a brute force machine the method that it used to create the values it used to evaluate positions and piece exchanges is very similar to the way neural nets train. What has happened since then is to abandon a pre-conceived notion of how a position should be evaluated and then with programs like Alpha Zero to ignore existing games and to let the program learn from first principals by itself. Reading the description of Stockfish it looks more like Deep Blue than Alpha Zero but Stockfish NNUE could be Alpha Zero equivalent.
@hillybankok
@hillybankok Жыл бұрын
53 min ago lucky me
@maxwellmondo4857
@maxwellmondo4857 Жыл бұрын
12:10 when Garry puts all of his pawns on dark squares, it’s called “spatial dominance,” when I do it, it’s called “light square weakness” or “mate in two” (whatever that means)
@roen04
@roen04 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for analyzing these games, Levi. I was only a young lad,10 yrs old when they played. I didn't have easy access to view it then, and since then it has slipped my mind to actually look the matches up and break the matches down move-for-move. I appreciate your insight and work for Gotham!
@aedans-r592
@aedans-r592 3 жыл бұрын
I think a variant of chess where you can capture your own pieces would be fascinating. Imagine the rapid development and mating patterns
@youraveragerobloxkid
@youraveragerobloxkid 6 ай бұрын
chatgpt
@semeretadese6856
@semeretadese6856 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 very much for your amazing explanation.
@simonjohn70
@simonjohn70 11 күн бұрын
this video was well done given its speed and going over the games this gets a automatic subscription, i only found out bout this guy becuase of his recent interview with vishy also i like how he asked vishy bout deep blue believe or not i like deep blue even tho its not as strong as any other new chess program id like a replica of deep blue to play magnus carlsen and make chess big again
@michielvos6981
@michielvos6981 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, thanks. Well framed in the context of 1997. I remember that match, and being both a chess player and a software engineer I didn’t know who to cheer for. We were shocked to see Kasparov switching to closed play to beat Deep Blue.
@user-mt2jm7vy6i
@user-mt2jm7vy6i 3 жыл бұрын
As a stockfish developer would be interesting to have some videos about chess engines :) I find it fascinating how simple yet extremely effective engine algorithms are.
@megamarsvin8301
@megamarsvin8301 2 жыл бұрын
It would be so cool, if you could cover some of the games and/or background story of "the mechanical turk" - Thanks for great content tough!
@mattmiller4233
@mattmiller4233 Жыл бұрын
Watching from 2023, getting ready to show this historic game to my students in our school's eSports team. Thanks for the fantastic review!
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