Gas boiler flues CORRECT INSTALLATION OF BOILER FLUES PART1, how boiler flues are installed.

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Derek in part 1 shows us the correct and incorrect ways gas boiler flues are installed, he covers British standard 5440 part 1, building regulations document j and boiler manufactures instructions. Derek also covers the unsafe situations IGEM/G/11 to categorise the faults found on the flues.
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@aghasahib4703
@aghasahib4703 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos on flues. Thanks alot Derek.
@themadhatter4761
@themadhatter4761 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and informative video, no matter how much you think you know, always watch. There is always something you don’t. 👍👍👍🇬🇧
@piotrmarchwacki3414
@piotrmarchwacki3414 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video. Well explained. Thank you very much Derek 👍😀
@mohammednadeem7274
@mohammednadeem7274 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video from yourself Derek, some rough flues connected to the boilers, shocking 😭😭. Its a very good video for us trainees with excellent information. 👍👍😀
@everalwilliams6809
@everalwilliams6809 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos really bring clarity, can only imagine the work you put in to ensure everything is covered. But big thanks
@saimasafa7272
@saimasafa7272 3 жыл бұрын
Big man thanks Very cool and comfortable version of ways to share information with multi family of gas industry
@monikanader9454
@monikanader9454 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, thank you for all your efforts in filming this video👍👍👍
@1Monaghan
@1Monaghan 3 жыл бұрын
Legend! Been waiting on videos on flues and here it is. Great work.
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 3 жыл бұрын
Part 2 Wednesday 😁
@jon-paulward4580
@jon-paulward4580 2 жыл бұрын
Jon-Paul Ward. Great video Derek! Some shocking flue installations on there. It’s harder to find a selection of different sized bricks to sit the flue on than it is to install the proprietary brackets! What are people thinking?!🙈
@jamalamin2394
@jamalamin2394 3 жыл бұрын
Another quality vid, getting better everytime 👌🏽👌🏽🔥
@g7mks383
@g7mks383 3 жыл бұрын
First rate video thanks very informative and good demonstration's showing bad practice and how it should be correctly done. Thanks.
@hpinuk
@hpinuk 2 жыл бұрын
very useful video with clear examples and explanations.
@efrygasservices6169
@efrygasservices6169 3 жыл бұрын
Another cracking video pal. Very very informative 👍
@67dab
@67dab 2 жыл бұрын
What a great informative video, I will now look for poor fitting flues whe I am out walking. To my mind they should all be inspected and signed off by regulations.
@jasongittoes7299
@jasongittoes7299 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I was making notes in our training manual when watching the video many thanks derek
@simoncarpenter9119
@simoncarpenter9119 3 жыл бұрын
Top video always clear and easy to watch 👍
@javed3006
@javed3006 3 жыл бұрын
Another good tutorial video from mr derek thank you
@henrybartlett1986
@henrybartlett1986 3 жыл бұрын
These are really useful. Many thanks.
@msuk5957
@msuk5957 Жыл бұрын
Very useful video, its help a lot , thank you Derek Mohamed Hassan
@rivkiroyde4362
@rivkiroyde4362 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek great video 🙏🙏
@saidhissoufi277
@saidhissoufi277 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the efforts. Great video as always. I think you are making sth fulfilling in your life 👍👍👍👍👍
@Loonzartist
@Loonzartist 3 жыл бұрын
Your the man keep them coming
@jacktheplumber
@jacktheplumber Жыл бұрын
Excellent, Humorous, Entertaining
@karimkhellat4491
@karimkhellat4491 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great Chanel keep waffling Del 👍👌
@tn911267
@tn911267 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful, thanks
@faridratni6799
@faridratni6799 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Thanks
@saltnvinni1
@saltnvinni1 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@qhero4503
@qhero4503 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video and information's thank you
@matchbox66066
@matchbox66066 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I have had a problem with my Worcester flue leaking into the boiler housing every time it rains and your point here about taping telescopic flues may be the problem.
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 3 жыл бұрын
It could be leaking cutters so check them first
@richardhodgson7443
@richardhodgson7443 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video 👍
@xMackieProx
@xMackieProx 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on mate 👌
@abchannel3737
@abchannel3737 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best 🌹🌹🌹👍👍👍
@manjsingh6500
@manjsingh6500 3 жыл бұрын
Top quality 😊👍
@Sarries-fh7ri
@Sarries-fh7ri 3 жыл бұрын
Great video pal 👍
@AllYouNeedToNoNow
@AllYouNeedToNoNow 3 жыл бұрын
10 out of 10 👌🏻
@mrbaza8793
@mrbaza8793 3 жыл бұрын
Such clear talk & beautiful explanations. I love this channel 📺 ♥️ 😊😁🧰🔧👍🏾
@hatemmimouni7015
@hatemmimouni7015 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@fredjennings9268
@fredjennings9268 3 жыл бұрын
Top notch..👍👍...
@CoolMusicToMyEars
@CoolMusicToMyEars 6 ай бұрын
I'm Not a gas boiler engineer but I'm a Aerospace Defence Hardware verification qualification test engineer, it's always good to know what's right ✅ in the Gas trade & what's wrong an good indication when looking say for a new home 🏡 The only thing I've changed is a water flow switch for a combination boiler of my own, & thermocouple for an old Central Heating & Hot Water boiler 30 years ago, in the end on that boiler it was found that water was coming from the old dicast heat exchanger onto the pilot light, then a Gas engineer was called out to give the old cast iron boiler a good service 👍, They don't make them like that anymore 😅, before that was installed 40 years ago we had the very old cast iron radiators, those were I'm sure recycled by the installer, those would be well sort after including the very wide cast piping that was taken out, Interesting to look at all the systems, I still really like the Viessmann 200W 13 years old still going very well 👍 I see installation errors using 15mm gas pipe but its not far from the Gas meter, & I was informed by Viessmann I would be better to have 22 to 28mm on flow return except near the radiators, they used 22mm to a block then microbore 10mm plastic to radiators, I'm picking up all the best information for the next installation in a new home 🏡 later on
@dts9770
@dts9770 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! 👍🏻Dave T.
@Ellogg
@Ellogg 2 жыл бұрын
Derek great video very informative can I ask the section with the flue too near the door opening can this be made vertical and taken 300mm away vertically and be accepted looking to get my boiler moved with extension being built and best place is next to a door but it would be 200mm away horizontally. Thanks keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻
@aaronjoyce1980
@aaronjoyce1980 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Derek just watched. Aaron trainee
@colinfleming2244
@colinfleming2244 3 жыл бұрын
Ideal boilers book shows a fall back to boiler even a standard length flue
@mj0n4id36
@mj0n4id36 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised at how much there is to know about these type of flues. A very informative and interesting video. When checking if there is more than 10ppm CO coming back into the room, do you stand at the door with the analyser probe *OR* is there a certain distance from the door you would stand with the probe? Hope this question makes sense. Thanks Derek 👍🏻 Asian Jon. Training.
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 3 жыл бұрын
Inside the door way sweeping around to see if the 10ppm is coming in
@suewarrington8155
@suewarrington8155 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Sue Warrington
@m.jackson0846
@m.jackson0846 2 ай бұрын
Very informative. How would you get around with building a pergola (with a roof)on top of the exhaust? It will be a 2.5meters length. The gas exhaust is in the middle:(
@bri5201
@bri5201 2 жыл бұрын
I wish i could post a pic on here to ask my question ... ive just noticed my flue on my wall sticks out a good 30 cm out and has huge space around the cirlce that was cut out for it and not sealed in ... which i think it should be ?
@joaovittoria2533
@joaovittoria2533 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@tommyengineering8998
@tommyengineering8998 Жыл бұрын
You said cant use the a flue extender kit to go through a conservatory if the exhaust and inlet are in different places. but can i run both up through the conservator roof on a 90 up then a 90 to level it above the roof so that the inlet and exhaust are both extended to the same place? (using manufacturer lengths and distances etc) Cheers
@marvindallen8916
@marvindallen8916 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏾
@pookievision
@pookievision 3 жыл бұрын
I've learned more from you Derek than I did at my covid affected course last year!! :) Good lad PS any chance ya could do a air/gas ratio adjustment video with faults, analyser readings, correct tools and process please? Would really help, ta :)
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 3 жыл бұрын
Already done one mate check out my videos on how to use a flue gas analyser and understand the results 👍🏻
@doncollins9190
@doncollins9190 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining do you have a heading for as unable to find it yesterday.
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
@@doncollins9190 done quite a few videos on using a flue gas analyser and understand the results
@peterreid4567
@peterreid4567 9 ай бұрын
Can you do a video of poor installs of vertical flues please. And correct way to instal. I’ve seen so many with no clips. Screws and really poor designs thanks
@45graham45
@45graham45 Жыл бұрын
at 06:36 the flue is less than 300mm from a window. But that window looks like it is boarded up & so is not an opening window. Does the 300mm have to be applied if the widow is non opening - either boarded up or simply a non opening design?
@junearmstrong5017
@junearmstrong5017 2 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to fit a gas boiler flue which needs to go through to the outside wall and remove old one
@doncollins9190
@doncollins9190 2 жыл бұрын
great vids We undertake several extensions where the boiler flue needs to be extended. The existing pipe will be returned up the wall and out through the roof. Any chance of a vid on this installation because it must be more and more common
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
It’s on the to do list 👍🏻
@stevenharrison8113
@stevenharrison8113 Жыл бұрын
Learnt a lot in such a short space. I will say, you do come across as a know it all. I know there are some rough engineers out there but sending content out slating lad's, when the majority (In my opinion) care about there jobs, end result and their customers, is a bit counter productive. Should be helping each other, not slaying each other. There ain't many out there atm and less good ones, so hopefully your next video is less cocky and more helpful. All being said great content 👍
@dooronron69
@dooronron69 2 жыл бұрын
On my Worcester 25i combi boiler My inlet sticks out about 10 inches, the outlet (centre pipe) sticks out about 1.5ft, it's all plastic and I get rain leaking in whenever it rains, how could this be fixed, I wish I still lived in Droylsden I'd be calling you in
@tinareid7383
@tinareid7383 Жыл бұрын
If a flue goes straight up through a roof space, say a porch roof would this also need clips To hold it in place ?
@dannybrown438
@dannybrown438 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tge informative video Derek. I have a ideal he18 bolier. On very windy/wet days I get water being driven in through the flue. Is there a guard /cover or anything that can be used to prevent this?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is the installation of the flue it is probably on to steep a fall. There is no guard for this the flue will need installed correctly or do you have a gutter or pipe above the flue leaking or blocked as this can also let rain in
@dannybrown438
@dannybrown438 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining there's no guttering above flue, its fitted Between the wall and fence where the wind really picks up. It looks fairly straight coming out with no whites showing. Should it angle slightly downward, as it's angled slightly upwards
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannybrown438 the angle should be straight on the standard length of flue or to manufacturers instructions. Flues are designed not to let water in even in a storm so without looking at it I am guessing
@tariqkhan-kiyani3948
@tariqkhan-kiyani3948 11 ай бұрын
All these rules are useless unless enforced. I've complained to Gas Safe in the past, and they've basically fobbed me off!
@thebee6142
@thebee6142 5 ай бұрын
Hiya. Can you help please, when windy outside the boiler makes a rumbling noise and my sure it’s when the wind blows over the flue outlet. Can I attach something like a 45 degree bend on the end or is there something else you can use. Thanks
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 5 ай бұрын
Please get a gas engineer to take a look at it. That’s always my advice
@zulifqarali2961
@zulifqarali2961 2 ай бұрын
Hi could you tell what test is before connecting open flue appliance to flue. Please
@stuartparks5558
@stuartparks5558 Жыл бұрын
Hi Derek, I have a question on flue gaurds if a flue is under the 2 metres and hasn't got a gaurd is it AR?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining Жыл бұрын
No ncs
@SuperWayneyb
@SuperWayneyb 3 жыл бұрын
👍🤓👍
@brianking3565
@brianking3565 2 жыл бұрын
My neighbors gas flue was emitting flames so I rushed round and found she wasn’t in I turned her gas of at meter, to be safe haven’t heard if it was a blockage or what could be the consequences of this?
@andrewm3961
@andrewm3961 2 жыл бұрын
If the white section of the flue is plastic and UV resistant, other than being not as visually appealing are there any other risks if there is a small section showing?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
Only being damaged
@peterreid4567
@peterreid4567 9 ай бұрын
Quick question what about when the flue is up high and has to go past the eves. Which is does have to. , The white part will be sticking out to far. What’s your take on that. Because mi say it must go past
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 9 ай бұрын
Some boilers allow white on show some have balcony kits to extend the poc part so follow MIs and no problem 👍🏻
@bogdanb6415
@bogdanb6415 2 жыл бұрын
Plumber installed a gas pipe 100 mm next to the flue Is this OK, thanks
@anthonycosta2613
@anthonycosta2613 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff 👍
@kevind7150
@kevind7150 3 жыл бұрын
16.44 600mm if it is adjacent to an opening, from the side!
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 3 жыл бұрын
Not for every boiler some manufacturers don’t give a measurement some say 1 m and some say 300mm
@slendermanRblx
@slendermanRblx 3 жыл бұрын
19:50 That looks like something you would see in the r/crappydesign subreddit.
@Snaggleplops
@Snaggleplops 2 жыл бұрын
The 10ppm reading that changes things from AR to ID sounds strange, wouldn't it change from day to day depending on weather conditions? Also is that test done with the door closed or open? Thanks
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
All test results are on the day of the test and yes it can pass one day or fail the next that’s why we say at risk meaning it’s at risk of becoming ID as far as the door open and closed if you mean the flue is too close to a door then yes the door is open
@Snaggleplops
@Snaggleplops 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining ta mate, I had never heard of that 10ppm before, always learning! How long would you run the test?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
@@Snaggleplops 2 minutes
@sreviews6397
@sreviews6397 2 жыл бұрын
is it normal for water to drip/spit out the flue when the boiler is active? If not does it need immediate attention?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is normal
@albumgj6670
@albumgj6670 2 жыл бұрын
My boiler shows error during rain...is there any way to manage?
@squirrel6338
@squirrel6338 6 ай бұрын
If a boiler is already installed in compliance with then current manufacturers instructions (2020), then later the manufacturers instructions change (2023), does the installation become wrong? Is this reportable? The Worcester Bosch 2000 installation instructions changed do we need to report this as at risk for not being as per MI's?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 6 ай бұрын
It’s installed to the current regs and MIs so if it’s installed and they change then the appliance would become not to current standards so no need to do anything
@craighurst3599
@craighurst3599 3 жыл бұрын
CH👍
@Number_gamer
@Number_gamer 3 жыл бұрын
9:52 ideal flue 10:44 that is a anothor vokera 12:52 the botton one is a baxi 15:49 that is a balcony but still an ideal 16:33 that's a vokera 19:08 they are both baxis
@robslater435
@robslater435 2 жыл бұрын
Great training video 👌 I know your focusing on flues, however 13. 35 mins in, the discharge pipe terminates above the flue below which will cause water ingress into the below flue ID flag straight away 🤔 In the years I've been doing this job 28yrs on fact you have to have eyes of a sh_t house rat, To all the begginers in this job " Never get complacent"!!! 28 years in folks and I never think I'm dogs doo daa. REMEMBER the golden rule LAST COMPETENT PERSON 🤔
@jonlen100
@jonlen100 2 жыл бұрын
Water getting into the top of my boiler blowing up 2 fans. any idea?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 2 жыл бұрын
Is the flue installed to MIs and are there any waste pipes or guttering leaking over the flue
@asbestosflake5749
@asbestosflake5749 3 жыл бұрын
Do Worcester allow you to show white outside?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware yes they do
@umark6695
@umark6695 3 жыл бұрын
Worcester and Vaillant allow it.
@mannysangha4182
@mannysangha4182 3 жыл бұрын
That's good question! I'm sure this was raised back in 2016 about the flue being exposed too much (sticking out the wall) to the elements! Apparently the paint wasn't at the time UV resistant!
@YoutubeHero666
@YoutubeHero666 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do allow it. If you have a joint outside then you need to silicon it.
@colinfleming2244
@colinfleming2244 3 жыл бұрын
Thought if I'd and customer not allowing to cap off you wher to phone transporter to come and disconnect
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you do for ID but not AR like I said in the video
@colinfleming2244
@colinfleming2244 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining must hav missed you saying that sorry
@secondchance4498
@secondchance4498 3 жыл бұрын
chris taylor
@Rosco-P.Coldchain
@Rosco-P.Coldchain 7 ай бұрын
My flue making a whistling noise it’s driving me bonkers 😩
@marccrowther7257
@marccrowther7257 3 жыл бұрын
Marc crowther
@HDsharp
@HDsharp Жыл бұрын
Can mice enter the house by flues?
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining Жыл бұрын
A mouse can get through a hole bigger than 10mm but if it went into the flue it’s self it would be inside the boiler or the heat exchanger
@HDsharp
@HDsharp Жыл бұрын
@@tomkatgastraining I see, so has long as the boiler is sealed (no gaps whatsoever) for the mouse to enter in the flue, then through the boiler and then into the house, it should be safe to rule out that possibility of mice entering the home that way.
@tomkatgastraining
@tomkatgastraining Жыл бұрын
@@HDsharp i would say so 👍🏻
@leeread3237
@leeread3237 Жыл бұрын
Is there any time that this man is going to say how to do it, instead of showing photo after photo on how not to do it Totally dreadful video
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