Gearbox Oil Leak Ends in DISASTER 😭

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Herman Hits the Road

Herman Hits the Road

Жыл бұрын

Well, we've figured out what the problem is with the gearbox leaking oil. The drive shaft bearings are gone. Not only that the clutch fails.
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@sylviapage8572
@sylviapage8572 Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed everything goes well and you’re back on the road soon. xx
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sylvia. We're looking forward to having him back on Friday 🤞
@TimmysFavs
@TimmysFavs Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear of your mechanical troubles. It's always good practice to fit a new clutch when ever the gearbox has to come out unless you've just fitted a new clutch recently. It's like when you change the timing belt ( unless it's a timing chain) it's best practice to fit a new water pump too as this is driven off the timing belt. Personally I think you have arranged a good deal especially as they are collecting Herman doing the work and guaranteeing it plus delivering it back to you! Nothing is cheap these days & when you have him back you won't know yourselves. Good luck and hope everything works out well for you?
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Tim 👍🥰
@markwilkinson2673
@markwilkinson2673 Жыл бұрын
Really bad luck , but on the plus side you'll soon have a van with a worry free gearbox and clutch , happy travels soon 😎
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
That is very true, Mark. Thanks
@vauxhallmechanic
@vauxhallmechanic Жыл бұрын
HI Ad's In some way I'm glad you found the fault that I diagnosed but saddened it's going to be an expensive repair, if I had my own workshop I would of helped with all of my 38 years of motor trade and knowledge
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Daz 👍👍👍
@laikatravels
@laikatravels Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing Herman on more adventures. Good luck 🤞
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Us too, Laika Travels. Thanks
@thenoworriesnomad
@thenoworriesnomad Жыл бұрын
Im sure it will be fixed and I much prefer these kind of videos, whether its mechanical, stuff in, on or outside the van...👍👍
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Do you mean that you prefer the disaster movies the most, Nomad? 🤣🤣
@powderpuff1964
@powderpuff1964 Жыл бұрын
you new fix will make it seem like a new van and only good news and good luck in future
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Colin
@grahampoole2092
@grahampoole2092 Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery for Herman, we have a 94 Fiat based Hymer and this is making me very nervous!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it, Graham. The clutch biting point was near the top for many years.. Now it is right on the end of the top of the pedal.
@vansforthememories
@vansforthememories Жыл бұрын
Aww so sad to see Herman getting put on the low loader. Hopefully he’ll be back soon, with a new heart & rearing to go! Em 💜
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Em 👍🥰
@wiggy5355
@wiggy5355 Жыл бұрын
Well, I hope it all goes well for you. It must be a bit of a nightmare. Hopefully all goes well, and you’re back in action very soon. 🤞
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wiggy 👍👍
@kurts_aviation
@kurts_aviation Жыл бұрын
what can you say apart from bloody hell poor Herman, keep smiling things will get better
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kurt 👍👍
@kurts_aviation
@kurts_aviation Жыл бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad you could look at it from the point of view that the gear box was being removed anyway and a perfect opportunity to check the clutch assembly and flywheel at the same time.
@deaddave8805
@deaddave8805 Жыл бұрын
Older vans are like a love affair !! Our 'Pippin' is a 2004 Fiat Ducato, 'Swift Sundance', with only 31,000 miles on the clock. When bought 3rs ago we had to replace the clutch. She must have had a poor previous driver. We installed a solar panel on the roof and an Autoterm Diesel Heater for all year use. And we do so. Our niggles are habitation water leaks. Nothing too drastic, more weeps than leaks and easily sorted, but each trip out we wonder what will 'cry' next !! Not us though, we love our 'Pippin' !! Best Wishes Dave + Sophie xx
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Hey Dave and Sophie, we've not heard from you in a while. We hope you and Pippin have get those weeps sorted out 👍👍
@stephenturnell9308
@stephenturnell9308 Жыл бұрын
When our seal went on our Hymer 2.5 TD C25 J5 Ducato engine, the gearbox oil was slowly leaking and getting into and onto the clutch plate and the clutch started slipping and smelling. We took it to Eastern Commercials in Great Yarmouth if you call them they are very helpful and will be able to tell you what the problem was and how they fixed it. Coastline Motorhomes supplied all the parts to repair it and whatever they did to the gearbox seals etc, and after fitting the new clutch at the same time, it worked fine after that. Quote my name and Citroen Hymer 2021 if you think it's worth talking to them. They literally had the gearbox out, it was a big job.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen, it's all in good hands at the moment
@bikerm123
@bikerm123 Жыл бұрын
Makes my sliding door locking problem fade into insignificance. Hope it's fixed quickly. Ps just had the clutch replaced on the car.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Derek 👍
@sleepycatpictures1176
@sleepycatpictures1176 Жыл бұрын
That's okay. I would have recommended changing the clutch while the gearbox was out anyway. Have it all done together and it'll be good for years!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
We were going to do that but it would have been better if it was driveable.
@thedon7536
@thedon7536 Жыл бұрын
We was taught just to use revs if our coach clutch went, didn’t believe it until I tried it and on my moterbike, hopefully you back on road soon
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thank Don 👍👍
@jmick7191
@jmick7191 Жыл бұрын
We empathise 😕 Our lovely 'old Bee' has just had a new clutch fitted: we found it literally impossible to source a garage willing to do an 'old motorhome'. Luckily we found a fantastic HGV workshop outside Knaresborough. They were fantastic 😊. We're poorer, but back on the road 👍
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
What motorhome do you have J Mick?
@jmick7191
@jmick7191 Жыл бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad Autotrail Apache 53 plate. She's our pride and joy 💕😊
@michaelteale6386
@michaelteale6386 Жыл бұрын
The only way is up now Adds. These probs always come in groups. In a few weeks it wil be a distant memory.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement, Mick 👍👍
@bamog4560
@bamog4560 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s an expensive fix but reconditioned gearbox and a new clutch means Herman is fettled and ready for many more road trips . You’re going through a period of bad luck but it won’t last.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
You are right. Thanks for the encouragement, Bamo 👍👍
@tstuart7333
@tstuart7333 Жыл бұрын
You need to visit the NEC. They will have some nice new shiny ones. Oh a clutch going sounds painful . That drive shaft seal is looking a bit unsettled. There is a possibility you may have too much and incorrect gear fluid in. Even a little over the added extra required can cause breathing issues and the first thing to go under enclosed pressure, would be the seals. All easy enough work to be done though I must admit. Hope all works out fine for you soon. Still you are looking positive.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks T Stuart
@ttxela
@ttxela Жыл бұрын
Never good to have a large unexpected expense, but that sounds a good price for that amount of work.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex 👍👍
@davidpayne785
@davidpayne785 Жыл бұрын
its good practice change clutch with gearbox out only a few more bolts then one thing less to worry about all best
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks David, that's what we were planning on doing anyway
@LeFrez
@LeFrez Жыл бұрын
That's a fair amount of dosh BUT it's only money. Herman got a free ride too, bonus for him. You'll be back on the road in no time. Clutch was a blessing in disguise. About 5th gear: ours went in I think 2013 at 88,000 km. I replaced the gear and synchro myself at a cost of several Hundred Euros just for the parts. Overfilled with GL4 and now 10 years later and with 186,000km on the clock 5th gear is still going fine. Never use it under 80km/h (50 MPH) and never before 10 ish minutes of driving, so the box oil is warm.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I've heard how to treat the 5th gear too, LeFrez. Thanks 👍
@cottonfoo
@cottonfoo Жыл бұрын
What a pain, but at least it'll all be sorted. The run of bad luck can't last much longer. I had an unexpected bill in November, I needed a new throttle pedal for a Land Cruiser. Imagine my surprise at the £1050 bill!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Blimey, I would have tried to find one in a scrap yard, cottonfoo
@cottonfoo
@cottonfoo Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it turns out the Land Cruiser Amazon/100 is not very common, and parts are expensive. Good that things don't often go wrong, though!
@tommydee5344
@tommydee5344 Жыл бұрын
I would of liked to of seen if it still leaked at the correct level rather than been overfilled to protect 5th gear as with it been over filled would of put more stain on the seals especially when all the fluid is splashed around. Good luck with the fix and hopefully lots of trouble free motoring
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy. I know what you are saying but it still leaked and it's getting worse.
@paulgilbert4559
@paulgilbert4559 Жыл бұрын
Ads & Zoe thankyou for sharing your woes with us. I hope all these mechanical issues are a reality check for those who see older motorhomes through rose tinted glasses and who think they are so wonderful and go on forever! Yes they have a certain charm with their retro looks but the reality is that beneath all that plastic and wood veneer is a mass produced commercial vehicle ie a builders van! And as good as they are when newly built it is essentially a lot of metal components rubbing against each other that eventually wear out! So unfortunately what is happening to you is inevitable 😩 I know some will say they have no choice but to buy older vehicles as that is all they can afford, such as my son who has just paid £2500 for a campervan and who knows he will spend as much again during his ownership! Starting with a new gear box!! I hope you get Herman fixed soon and can enjoy you time in him again.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. The price of a gearbox is nothing compared to a new motorhome
@Wheres_wanda_wandering
@Wheres_wanda_wandering Жыл бұрын
What rotten luck. Hopefully all will be fixed soon. Lovely to see Zoe she always makes me smile. Take care Gill
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Zoe is -a cracker- crackers, Gill
@Wheres_wanda_wandering
@Wheres_wanda_wandering Жыл бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad you’re like me because crackers like crackers 😂
@TheIrishMegaphone
@TheIrishMegaphone Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough I now have since yesterday a mild leak on my Hymer gearbox - that we had repaired also before Christmas. Am hoping it’s just a seal or something minor. I think the bearings were done on mine though and I chose to do the clutch also. I went out this morning to double check after seeing this video. You mentioned filling through the “reverse switch” area or something like that. Could you explain that a bit please? Mine is a 2007/2008.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
I don't think you need to worry about filling up by the reverse switch because you have a newer motorhome. On older Ducatos the 5th gear was added to a 4 gear gearbox and its been found that the oil doesn't splash very well on the 5th gear because it is at the top of the gearbox. So, more oil should be put into the gearbox and you should only use 5th above 50mph. I hope that helps, The Irish Megaphone ?
@webgibs
@webgibs Жыл бұрын
Ads really wish you best of luck there 🤞.. oil leak😩 , I wouldn't have a clue to help you sorry.. such bad luck ..keep smiling mate
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks webgibs. It's all in hand 👍👍
@HerbertDuckshort
@HerbertDuckshort Жыл бұрын
Everyone should have a Chaz. Do you rent him out?
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
We used to rent him out, Tony but he now has too many bumps, scratches and dents in him now 🤣🤣🤣
@johnWest19657
@johnWest19657 Жыл бұрын
Could have been worse, clutch could have gone a week later after new gear box fitted,so gearbox would have to come out again,I was going to say while the gearbox is out fit a new clutch anyway
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that we were a bit lucky there too, John. And yes, I was thinking of changing the clutch anyway
@johnclarke6542
@johnclarke6542 Жыл бұрын
Did one of those gearbox's on my own there not hard just a awkward shape to lift, the breather is at the front of the box also the filler, the abs reluctor ring is on outer CV joint not the inner CV joint would take a guess the driveshaft are the same just added the reluctor on the end would make economy sense
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks John. It might be a different gearbox (ours is a 1998 MG box) then because the filler is at the back where I show it in the video or via the reversing light switch.
@johnclarke6542
@johnclarke6542 Жыл бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad There all pretty much the same thing, some are pull clutches others are push clutches, first one I did was on my mates driveway 2.8 5 speed, getting the selector shaft out can be intimidated we unbolted the clutch off the flywheel made a little hole in the bell housing for access, some drill a hole knock the shaft out from the inside out. Hope it's all sorted happy motorhoming
@MakeDoAndMend1
@MakeDoAndMend1 Жыл бұрын
We have exactly the same problem. 3 seals later and it still leaks. However the gearbox on mine was originally a 4 speed. 5th gear added which is splash lubricated. 2 x drain plugs. One for diff the other gears. Oil filled via reversing switch. Breather is a hole. My gearbox has dipstick. Gearbox is obsolete. So I use an addictive that states its good for 30k miles with very little oil. Been 5 years on now. In mw newer van. Does chas know anything about leaky auto gearboxes. Not sure where it's coming from. Cheers from old George
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, George. The earlier gearboxes have a dipstick. I wish ours did. Recon gearbox should be available
@glyn1206
@glyn1206 Жыл бұрын
Why didnt you use the guys in Guildford,that fixed the 5th gear ?
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
They don't remove gearboxes or replace clutches, Glyn
@julietjones385
@julietjones385 Жыл бұрын
Zoey made me laugh xx
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
She does that, Juliet. She's an odd one 🤣🤣🥰
@ari.voutilainen
@ari.voutilainen Жыл бұрын
Well, the silver lining is that the clutch is easier to repair together with the gearbox. Would have been even worse to have a fixed gearbox and the next day find out that the clutch went. Sucks anyway…😤
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
That's what I think too, Ari
@pgmerovingian
@pgmerovingian Жыл бұрын
Puff a load of talcum power around the seal so you can see where the oil is coming from
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
It's coming out of the seal, Paul and there isn't enough room to put talc or see the bearing
@pgmerovingian
@pgmerovingian Жыл бұрын
@@HermanHitstheRoad I have a 2004 B584 with the newer model box, ie not the old citroen design with the added 5th gear. Maybe at worst, if it fits, replace the box with the later model like mine (second hand). I replaced the clutch on mine using an uprated clutch disc and spring (clutch kit) as I upped the power on mine. The uprated clutch came from Essen in Germany let me know if you want a link to the supplier? It may be, that the prop shaft you fitted was indeed for the later gearbox,something to consider. Lifes a shit sandwich, take a bite🤐
@anthonyhughes369
@anthonyhughes369 Жыл бұрын
Murphys law ALWAYS applies..poor Herman 😢
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Haha 🤣🤣
@lys823
@lys823 Жыл бұрын
I would have replaced the clutch while the gearbox was out anyway.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
We were going to but it's not drivable at all atm, Nitra
@garytraynor6963
@garytraynor6963 Жыл бұрын
Come on give that man a BREAK 👏
@surfreadjumpsleep
@surfreadjumpsleep Жыл бұрын
please don't use that word around Herman!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
What man, Gary?
@terrydewdney207
@terrydewdney207 Жыл бұрын
Gearbox breather looks like a car valve
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry. I've not seen anything like that
@barrybrewer4944
@barrybrewer4944 Жыл бұрын
Yes this is all too familiar l allso had my Peugeot clutch go costing £700 then timing slipped 4 cogs to the tune of £579 all with in a mouth so my 1994 auto sleeper had to go! With 75 hp at the wheels and nacked turbo she was past her brim
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
I'm sad to hear that, Barry. What have you got now?
@jasonannesley5889
@jasonannesley5889 Жыл бұрын
Better for it to fail now on your doorstep than miles away from home.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
I agree, Truesaxon. A bit of good luck there I think
@paulriddel5277
@paulriddel5277 Жыл бұрын
😥
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
More like 😭😭🤬, Paul 🤣
@kinross24
@kinross24 Жыл бұрын
Surely overfilling the gearbox Will Result in leakage from the seals more than if were just filled to correct levels and will result in excess internal pressures.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
You'd think so, Glen but that is the recommended procedure.
@peskyparttimers8239
@peskyparttimers8239 Жыл бұрын
Too much oil can be as bad as not enough, can't comment on Fiats but my old Renault Master had a special dipstick for checking the level which needed to be half an inch or so below the filler/level plug. If they are over filled they can start syphoning the entire contents out of the breather vent apparently. It was supposed to take 2.6 litres or something but only ever needed about 1.8 for an oil change as its impossible to completely drain the gearbox via the drain plug, probably would take the full quantity if it had been completely stripped and rebuilt. I wonder if your vent is blocked or something and the pressure increase as the oil heats up is forcing it out via the path of least resistance (diff oil seal). I don't think the bit of movement in the inner end of the driveshaft should be much cause for concern (my Renault one was worse than that). If the diff bearings are tapered roller bearings a certain amount of "float" is normal. I'd be curious to see if the clutch is soaked in gear oil too (it will stink terrible). If its been overfilled its possible found its way out along the gearbox input shaft.
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, Pesky Part timers. You are right but overfilling is the recommended procedure.
@CaravanWithThatYorkshireChap
@CaravanWithThatYorkshireChap Жыл бұрын
I agree, the oil level bung’s there for a reason. Quite a coincidence the clutch starts slipping with all that excess oil in the box. Oil been pushed through the input shaft seal into the clutch plate? Been absolutely fine for years with the correct oil level?
@barrybrewer4944
@barrybrewer4944 Жыл бұрын
But in perfect condition, 72000 miles like new inside but going up hill no thankyou !!
@HermanHitstheRoad
@HermanHitstheRoad Жыл бұрын
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