The Empire Hasn’t Revealed it’s True Nature yet in Andor

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In the first few episodes of Andor the Empire is still relatively restrained in how it dealt with dissent. It's suppression of freedom and liberty in the galaxy was gradual and went unnoticed in the core regions of the galaxy.
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@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech Жыл бұрын
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@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 Жыл бұрын
NO!
@jasondalton1980
@jasondalton1980 Жыл бұрын
great content once again, Mr G Tech, you obvs do appreciate the nuance a lot of 'fans' are missing when they say this show is slow and boring as far as SW goes 🙄 I've got two small points of discussion. One is the line from a senator your draw attention to in the vid, 'If you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear'. This is absolutely the indoctrination the Empire wants to engender. I lived for years in an authoritarian society i wont name but is out East, and many people would parrot this EXACT sentence throughout my time there, as a justification for conformity. The question that should always follow that is, who determines what is wrong or right. The other is something you refer to in a director making sure each element portrayed in a story is relevant, I just thought to sugest you look up the concept of 'Chekovs gun' to better illustrate that point in your mind. I find these labels help in my conception anyway🤔
@charlottewolery558
@charlottewolery558 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alan and team, Do you guys have a forum or discord? Cause this is the kind of stuff I really love about Star Wars' potential and I'd love to discuss it with people who enjoy the meatier and more realistic anthropology and sociology Alan is presenting here.
@titanrahlgaming
@titanrahlgaming Жыл бұрын
Porg? Really? Might as well be Porn lmao
@annawhite1591
@annawhite1591 Жыл бұрын
like a bunch of kids" yes thats how it works even in real life,
@patrickholt4140
@patrickholt4140 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was in the military I can tell you that officers and NCOS do get casual at times especially when superiors aren’t around
@motorbikemike2898
@motorbikemike2898 Жыл бұрын
Definitely around the smoke pit, everyone is chill
@rhob2422
@rhob2422 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, other than the gung-ho officers and SNCOs, mostly everyone is just normal people who happen to be in the military
@lamesurfer1015
@lamesurfer1015 Жыл бұрын
@Connor Bernier No, its a small area in every garrison where smoking tobacco is authorized. Something about sharing a vice drops any pretense of superiority between officers, NCOs, and enlisted.
@dktitanx2773
@dktitanx2773 Жыл бұрын
As someone in the military now, i always treat my enlisted as the people they are. sure we have different titles and billets but at the end of the day, we're all just people trying to do a job. maybe if the empire did the same it would have survived lol
@FieldMarshalYT
@FieldMarshalYT Жыл бұрын
I've had decently casual conversations with generals. Of course we still refer to each other accordingly by rank and show that respect but at the end of the day I see most of us treat each other as regular people. You learn who to do it with and who not to.
@AllGameNoLife
@AllGameNoLife Жыл бұрын
I actually think the subtle hand displays how much more sinister the Empire really is. The Republic died the moment Palpatine got emergency powers which was in episode 2. The difference here I think is that the Empire for the first time is being displayed as a realistic government body while still being a terrifying oppressive regime. They're just not cartoonishly evil; because in the real world, even the most evil and oppressive governments in history are still run by people, and people are complicated.
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech Жыл бұрын
well put
@vuvuxelloss
@vuvuxelloss Жыл бұрын
Andor gives us the "banality of evil", as Arendt put it.
@michaeldemarco9950
@michaeldemarco9950 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder how the officers of the Final Order lived.
@ColinTherac117
@ColinTherac117 Жыл бұрын
This comment reminds me of an old picture that exists of the concentration camp guards on their time off. If you saw the picture and didn't know what their uniforms represented, all you would see is a bunch of college age kids having a goofy group photo.
@michaeldemarco9950
@michaeldemarco9950 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinTherac117, yep. They enjoyed wonderful Christmas Eves at home with their children, five miles down the road from their “day job”.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Жыл бұрын
"The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric. Safety, prosperity, trade, opportunity, peace. Compare Imperial rule to what is happening now. Look outside. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? I see nothing but death and chaos." - The Client to Din Djarin
@scoutman66
@scoutman66 Жыл бұрын
It's such delicious irony that the person that genuinely made that claim gets shot to bits by soldiers of the regime that he loves so much not even a few seconds later.
@ZeonZakuBrigade
@ZeonZakuBrigade Жыл бұрын
Long live the Galactic Empire
@Dornana
@Dornana Жыл бұрын
Long live the Galactic Empire
@harrisonshute4675
@harrisonshute4675 Жыл бұрын
Long live the empire!
@stormhawk4277
@stormhawk4277 Жыл бұрын
By depriving you of your rights, land, and if you’re too troublesome, your life. Fuck the Empire.
@katiepersons6575
@katiepersons6575 Жыл бұрын
I think the show makes the Empire more scary by dialing it back in the beginning because a Saturday morning cartoon level of villainy is just cartoonish, but what is shown in the show is so realistic and believable it strikes you to your core.
@tristankawatsuma8962
@tristankawatsuma8962 Жыл бұрын
Between the Aldhani Raid, Ezra's transmission from Lothal, and Phoenix Squadron taking down Tarkin's star destroyer and the Grand Inquisitor, 5 BBY must have been a big punch in the gut for the Empire.
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 Жыл бұрын
Yeah well we see how Vader and then Thrawn were involved in the story of Phoenix Squadron after that so yeah I'd say the Empire took these events pretty seriously.
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 Жыл бұрын
Naive? Yes. Innocent: Definitely Not. The occasional "good" Imperial like Thrawn or Pellaeon doesn't change that the system is inherently problematic.
@mattstorm360
@mattstorm360 Жыл бұрын
The system lead to people like Tarkin being put in charge of a super laser which accounts for most of the rebels' battle cries.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin Жыл бұрын
Bix is tortured, using a device that bombards her with the dying screams of an entire alien species who were massacred by the Empire. That is some 40K levels of messed up evil
@kylemundy8871
@kylemundy8871 Жыл бұрын
Shows like Kenobi are enough to make me want to join the empire
@leafboye33
@leafboye33 Жыл бұрын
@@kylemundy8871 good for you 👍😊
@LMGunslinger
@LMGunslinger Жыл бұрын
I still don't really understand what is shown that makes the empire bad. It's usually just a few cartoonishly mean guys in posistons of power. Very petty and low brown evil imo.
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA Жыл бұрын
Main thing I love about andor is that it forces me to think about how the characters behave and why and it doesn't come off as cringe in a way
@kylemundy8871
@kylemundy8871 Жыл бұрын
Episode 2 of Kenobi (I think) the villain makes a speech at the space bar that was so cringey I shortly stopped watching. Cartoon level bad guy speech, how do writers even keep their jobs.
@omnitheus5442
@omnitheus5442 Жыл бұрын
@@kylemundy8871 surprised you got past the Millenia old sushi. That’s when I opted out…
@garethmiguel
@garethmiguel Жыл бұрын
@@omnitheus5442 oh no...was that creature really meant to have been something from Tatooine's watery past?? I thought it was just another sand-dwelling animal.
@R.a.f.a.e.l.
@R.a.f.a.e.l. Жыл бұрын
​@@kylemundy8871 Yeah, Kenobi was cringey all around. I really can't understand how some people were able to enjoy that crap. It's really, really bad. I forced myself through it but the terrible dialogue between the three Stogers villains in the first episode was already too much for me to take. Were we supposed to be afraid of them? Lol.
@kylemundy8871
@kylemundy8871 Жыл бұрын
@@R.a.f.a.e.l. people feel a desperate need to belong to something...or they feel they've invested too much to walk away. Either way, eating a poop sandwich and saying it's amazing for a pat on the head is where we are as consumers lol.
@taitano12
@taitano12 Жыл бұрын
The scariest part is that this is exactly how cartoonishly evil empires and nations get started IRL. Low-key, gentle, and insidious. Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and others come to power in similar fashion. They become cartoonishly evil over time. Some start wanting to do good, others are like Sideous from the beginning. Either way, it's the slow burning gradual erosion of, not just liberty and freedom, but of personage and agency that allows them to keep their power where moving too fast would cost them everything.
@SoloClone
@SoloClone Жыл бұрын
@the Learner makes me wonder who this show is for....the rebels or the Overlords....and which is which, when comparing it to society now .
@rob6310
@rob6310 Жыл бұрын
They started off as rag tag brown shirts and ended up as polished and terrifying sturmtruppen.
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike Жыл бұрын
First names on the list should be the UK and France. Hitler was simply following in their lead. Everything about his ideology, eugenics, imperialism, genocide to take over land, was started by them. Just look at the white settler colonies like Australia and north America.
@denialater7775
@denialater7775 Жыл бұрын
"absolute power will corrupt absolutely"
@EE-fm7jr
@EE-fm7jr Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the change we see in not just the ISB, but the Empire as a whole. As fans we know where everything within the skywalker era goes, but seeing where the stories come from and how the entire galaxy shifted after Aldhani. At this point, we see how the galaxy is suffering, and how the Imperials have relaxed into their positions following the Clone Wars. Definitely hope this season ends in a place where we can get a second season.
@hctownie
@hctownie Жыл бұрын
They've already committed to at least 2, 12 episode seasons. Production on S2 starts at the end of the month
@kylemundy8871
@kylemundy8871 Жыл бұрын
Sarsgaard claimed he'd signed on for 3 seasons. Fingers crossed
@IamHomelander
@IamHomelander Жыл бұрын
Disney has already stated its a two season series, 12 episodes each.
@kylemundy8871
@kylemundy8871 Жыл бұрын
@@IamHomelander I knew Sarsgaard was a dirty liar
@TheBeef2487
@TheBeef2487 Жыл бұрын
I'd also like to see how the Imperial officer corps transformed in the years between the Clone Wars and ANH, and to what extent the seeds of the Empire already existed in the Republic military. We got a taste of this in Clone Wars, but I'd like to see it covered more fully.
@lonesurvivor8828
@lonesurvivor8828 Жыл бұрын
Woah, this really puts into perspective just how titanic the deathstar really was. Luther says" I'm a coward, I'm afraid the empire will get so strong we won't be able to stop them". If the rebellion never stood up, the deathstar would have finished un contested, and Palpatine and Vader would literally have the ability to wipe out any petty oppositionor annoyances. Combine that with Mothma's question on what their idea of wrong is, creates a very bleak dystopia where entire planets can disappear if the Empire gets annoyed or self justifies the end of a world. Tatooine would probably be the first to go, if Vader had his way, the last fragment of his past, the final reminder of all those painful memories, gone for good.
@SgtHawk45
@SgtHawk45 Жыл бұрын
If he did that, wouldn't the Hutts declare war and no one wanted to mess with the equivalent of the Drug Cartels (even the empire knew not to mess with those bastards)? I mean even in real life, no one messes with the Cartels, if they ever united, 2-3.2 million gangsters with adequate enough training/experience... I'm pretty damn certain even the US Military would fail to quell a united paramilitary assault on that scale. On a galactic scale, HA! As if, even the Empire made deals with the Hutts, not outright conquer them. The hutts have a large enough force to apparently have the Republic, Separatists, now the Empire, to be concerned with avoiding confrontation. Like real life with actual drug cartels. If someone declared open war on them, they return the price in blood, tenfold, literally. They would turn cities into warzones, murder entire families (or sell them into slavery, organ trade, prostitution, whichever), it's probably also the tolerance of governments being on their payrolls, same with the Empire no doubt, why no one messes with a Cartel. Hutt or South American.
@seawind930
@seawind930 Жыл бұрын
Vader, (if the Novel is to be believed) was not impressed by the Death Star and saw the will of the Force as the highest power. If the Force did not want a Battle station that could destroy planets it would find a way to remove it. A technician would trip and cause a malfunction or a design flaw would blow it up, as it would happen a Rebel pilot who was strong in the force managed to destroy it proving him right. Now this is probably non-canon now but I saw that as an interesting view as to what Vader thought of the Technological terror that the Empire was bringing.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Жыл бұрын
@@SgtHawk45 Hutts would get Death Star annihilated too next
@angelohowardii8907
@angelohowardii8907 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 thats just it though the hutts had a whole swathe of space under their control,at least a whole 3rd of the galaxy was considered hutt space, they would've been using the deathstar on hundreds of worlds not just nar shada or nal hutta,even with the deathstar a war with the hutts isn't something that the empire would have been able to carry on very long in any successful way
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Жыл бұрын
@@angelohowardii8907 Yes, the Hutts are like paper before the storm. And the Empire is the storm that is approaching.
@DaHuntsman1
@DaHuntsman1 Жыл бұрын
I think thats the beauty of Andor in comparison to other Star Wars media is that it shows how a Totalitarian fascist system of government entrenches itself in the day-to-day life of the average person, and shows how gradual of a process it is until in many cases it is too late to stop it. It is this parallel to the real world that makes the Empire in Andor so terrifying, because we've seen these strategies used on various peoples throughout history, from the forced displacement, the horribly inequal "treaties", as well as the systematic destruction of cultural and holy sites.
@TJDious
@TJDious Жыл бұрын
The Empire didn't truly reach its peak until Palpatine dissolved the Imperial Senate.
@mechtech220
@mechtech220 Жыл бұрын
the ww2 parallels in this series are INCREDIBLE. also the little nods to Leto The Second, The Great Worm and The Golden Path.
@SpiceofLifevariety
@SpiceofLifevariety Жыл бұрын
What nods?
@thenewstanza9069
@thenewstanza9069 Жыл бұрын
Im curious can you explain more?
@davidkairis9487
@davidkairis9487 Жыл бұрын
@@thenewstanza9069 russian - Ukraine, even in the background, wheat and blue sky...or thats just me, to creditable?
@andykaufman7620
@andykaufman7620 Жыл бұрын
Andor is REAL STAR WARS. So wish George Lucas had empowered the people who made this and allowed them to make more stuff like this in the pre-Disney era. This stuff is Canon, not necessarily only what George Lucas makes as he can stray from the essence of the original movie. The fact the original movie had nuance to its imperial officers so they are not cardboard cut outs, and had a range of disagreements with Vadar and the way the Empire operated granted it a level of realism. I wish that had not been lost, but in Andor it would seem they found it again. They deserve a Gold Star.
@TheInfinitecheese
@TheInfinitecheese Жыл бұрын
Andor reminds me of what kind of new shows I hoped for when I first started reading the EU books back in the day.
@chrissonofpear1384
@chrissonofpear1384 Жыл бұрын
@@TheInfinitecheese It compares favorably with the somewhat cheesy Imperial portrayals in Obi-Wan Kenobi, at any rate.
@BungieStudios
@BungieStudios Жыл бұрын
It's not Star Wars. It's too dirty and gritty. Also too off topic. How does it relate to the First Order or Snoke? Where is Admiral Holdo's origin? Where's General Leia? It's a burn notice ripoff with a dirty, ugly blade runner aesthetic. Dumd!
@TheInfinitecheese
@TheInfinitecheese Жыл бұрын
@@BungieStudios the og trilogy was dirty and gritty. I don't care how it relates to the first order because the Disney wars ducking suck.
@BungieStudios
@BungieStudios Жыл бұрын
@@TheInfinitecheese I'm sorry you feel that way, but this is not Star Wars.
@mikec3820
@mikec3820 Жыл бұрын
the parallels of the empire to our own govs are everywhere in andor. for those with eyes to see and ear to hear at least. thanks Alan always great break downs
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 Жыл бұрын
Given that your post is so vague that it leaves me unsure what politics you were thinking of caused me to wonder what the Imperial Propaganda looked like regarding the Rebel Alliance and non human species. That would be rather fascinating to see...
@soondslash
@soondslash Жыл бұрын
"innocent and naive" is a nice way to put it lol
@raistlin3462
@raistlin3462 Жыл бұрын
They were planning to make the Dhani disappear through displacement policies rather than outright sending stormtroopers to murder them all. Don't get me started with Narkina 5. "Innocent"...I guess, compared with the later "obey me or I will blow up your planet".
@QuintusAntonious
@QuintusAntonious Жыл бұрын
My fan theory on this is that Palpatine was intentionally sowing the seeds of chaos so he could reap life energy to make himself immortal, something he learned from studying ancient texts on Darth Tenebrae/Emperor Vitiate. At least in the EU, Palpatine had intensely studied the old Sith Empire and had used it as inspiration for some of his Empire's aesthetics.
@migueldelacruz4799
@migueldelacruz4799 Жыл бұрын
""Speedshil Mileetairdy Ooperayshom" fucking got me good.
@MercenaryPen
@MercenaryPen Жыл бұрын
Just a thought, if even the imperial army was innocent and naive at this point- how much more does that apply to the imperial navy where we have little sign of them having faced anything close to an equal force in battle since the end of the clone wars. At least the army was occasionally having to do serious fighting, and was constantly having to make do with minimal funds to achieve their objectives with imperial budgets skewed to prioritise renewing the imperial fleet and construction of the death star
@kegorator1
@kegorator1 Жыл бұрын
I love how you see the corruption in the empire. With loyalty being the only factor that matters, the ranks getting filled with inept, corrupt, and self serving people is a natural outcome. I think the "soft" treatment from the empire was a desire to preserve the labor force. The planet managers care about meeting quotas. And you can not do that without workers, and the best workers are content workers. And corpses do not produce anything. I think the turning point hits at a new hope. When the Senate is dissolved and the empire goes full evil.
@sdr33fer
@sdr33fer Жыл бұрын
Andor is good at showing the complacency of people during a time of relative peace. Reminds me of how people/Govt were pre-9/11.
@pleasegoawaydude
@pleasegoawaydude Жыл бұрын
I hope you don't mean to imply that the public hysteria after 9/11 was justified when it reached the federal level.
@yngwieperea2131
@yngwieperea2131 Жыл бұрын
This channel honestly deserves way more subs
@krosskinetic
@krosskinetic Жыл бұрын
That "Special military operation" got me cracking up so hard 😂
@spongeboy2780
@spongeboy2780 Жыл бұрын
“Yo dudes the empire is pretty chill maybe you could join it or something?”- Darth Vader
@Colombiarican31
@Colombiarican31 Жыл бұрын
I just realized something...remember when Cassian Andor thought Chirrut Imwe was a Jedi in Rogue One, does that mean he met a Jedi? Will we see a Jedi in Andor? And if so, would it be either Kanan Jarrus or Cal Kestis or another unnamed Jedi. I myself have a belief he might run into Kanan, which would make sense and it would be really awesome.
@TammoKorsai
@TammoKorsai Жыл бұрын
In that era, few people remember or know what a Jedi actually looks like and how they act.
@Colombiarican31
@Colombiarican31 Жыл бұрын
@@TammoKorsai but that actually that provides more confirmation on Cassian Andor meeting Kanan Jarrus
@garethmiguel
@garethmiguel Жыл бұрын
It's more likely that folk in the galaxy just associate anyone who talks about 'the force' with the Jedi. Remember that, at that stage, the Jedi would have been utterly demonised and mystified through propaganda and misinformation, so very very few people would have had a clear mental image of what they actually were/what they did/how they looked - just that they were Force followers.
@Colombiarican31
@Colombiarican31 Жыл бұрын
@@garethmiguel yes but if you look in Rebels, Kanan Jarrus, Ezra Bridger and the rest of the Ghost crew were stationed at Yavin as well...look at the end of season 3 and 4 of Rebels
@The7thFleet
@The7thFleet Жыл бұрын
@@Colombiarican31 lol Gilroy said no lightsabers or fan service
@bordatwork
@bordatwork Жыл бұрын
Those soldiers at 1:53 had big "can we have class outside" energy.
@laurencebarnes5361
@laurencebarnes5361 Жыл бұрын
I like how you kind of described the three pillars of (authoritarian) stability, Legitimation (through ideology), repression and co-optation. You also hinted at what can happen if one of these begin to crumble. There's interesting literature about that :D
@JohnoftheWesternlands
@JohnoftheWesternlands Жыл бұрын
I think that Andor is a very good show but i think shows like andor in star wars only work when we don't have enough of them. They have to be made once in 5 years in order to ensure that they are loved and not considered boring
@TheRealAlpha2
@TheRealAlpha2 Жыл бұрын
To be honest that last time I worked a 9to5, your description of the ISB would have worked there, too. That's pretty much _every_ working environment! At least until Rebel forces take over the break room.
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wondering how high school was any different from any other childish office politics.
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to seeing that transition unfold on screen.
@SpottedHares
@SpottedHares Жыл бұрын
Light physical labor with the added stress that a blaster is literally to the head of your family and one of your trusted is working mg with the thief. And they have already killed to get what they want so your life your family life is definitely on the line.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin Жыл бұрын
And the thought that if he DOES live through this, the ISB are going to show up and demand to know WHY you lived through it and haul you and your family away for interrogation, torture by alien death-screams and then execution.
@elizabeth6154
@elizabeth6154 Жыл бұрын
Terrific analysis. Thanks, Allen!
@DM__55
@DM__55 Жыл бұрын
I love the longer videos like this, please keep it up!
@theashbys8863
@theashbys8863 Жыл бұрын
Just want to say thank you Allen great channel binged loads of you vids on Star Wars keep it up they are almost as good as Andor!
@alexricky87
@alexricky87 Жыл бұрын
Love this analysis. And that's a credit to the writers and show runners of Andor. Putting out a great tv show or movie makes the analysis that much better especially to those critics who pay attention and actually know things outside of the material. I appreciate your work, thank you.
@andyh7152
@andyh7152 Жыл бұрын
A very interesting analysis of co-dependancy and forming your own being of the responses of others. Thankyou for this analysis :)
@CoryDAnimates
@CoryDAnimates Жыл бұрын
Excellent video essay!
@markabele8794
@markabele8794 Жыл бұрын
I like your assessment of this series. It makes a lot of sense.
@kirbycooper9496
@kirbycooper9496 Жыл бұрын
This seems like the first show that tells the story from the empire's perspective. I might have to watch it now
@jevonjames3241
@jevonjames3241 Жыл бұрын
This Generation Tech guy seems like a pretty cool fellow
@ascensionindustries9631
@ascensionindustries9631 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he's okay, I guess. 🤪
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
Excellent assessment and commentary.
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 Жыл бұрын
I have a suspicion that Dedra Meero may not make it to the end of the series. Syril Karn seems obsessed with her as a means to get back to serving and distinguishing himself in the Empire. Their last interaction made it clear that Dedra Meero wanted nothing to do with Syril Karn and that should he try to approach her again, he would be sent to prison. The desperation with Syril Karn, despite being promoted at his job, makes me think that he won't give up in his quest to "help" and there will be a penultimate episode where both Dedra Meero and Syril Karn will catch up with Cassian Andor. Dedra Meero will want Cassian Andor alive to connect to Luthen Rael, but Syril Karn wants Andor dead for retribution. Syril Karn, in my scenario, will either kill Dedra Meero accidentally as she's trying to extract Cassian Andor (incompetence with a blaster), or deliberately kill her as she physically stands between him and Andor. Just my speculation.
@sweetchristmas101
@sweetchristmas101 Жыл бұрын
I lean more toward the idea she'll first be a victim of ISB politics. One way or another Andor will escape her clutches and she'll be blamed for the failure. Perhaps Blevin will see the opportunity to twist the knife. Or maybe her assistant. I do agree she will die, but it will be after a fall from grace.
@nehukybis
@nehukybis Жыл бұрын
Shhh, don't tell anyone, but Andor is the most subversive series currently in production. Kind of hilarious it's on Disney plus of all places.
@gl0bal7474
@gl0bal7474 3 ай бұрын
Im rewatching Andor now (on DVD). It is an absolute masterpiece.
@1992Xenomorph
@1992Xenomorph Жыл бұрын
Commenting on the ISB. My mother is a professor at a University and this is how the other professors behave around each other. Everyone is out looking for themselves and some people to do the bare miminuim while others try to backstab and rat others out and fight for power. They care little about the bigger picture or the cause and more about how they can climb the ladder.
@kungolaf4499
@kungolaf4499 Жыл бұрын
That type of thinking is so prevalent. Sounds incredibly depressing.
@keithlivingstone2525
@keithlivingstone2525 Жыл бұрын
Blevin took part in a UK Series called Taskmaster. He was quite good but did come last a few times. I suspect this didn’t please his Supervisors in the ISB.....
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 Жыл бұрын
Good analysis on how the Empire’s hardline policies create the very Rebellion they are trying to eliminate.
@federov100
@federov100 Жыл бұрын
Appreciating the Andor content….
@carsoncasmirri3874
@carsoncasmirri3874 Жыл бұрын
Luthens strategy is brilliant. It’s effectively acting as a middleman he is able to bridge the factionalism and purity spirals all the while funding and laying the groundwork for the rebellion through accelerationism.
@benjaminreese3107
@benjaminreese3107 Жыл бұрын
Andor is a great show
@vennsung
@vennsung Жыл бұрын
I seriously love the show I wish I could just hang out and talk about that shit all day
@Colombiarican31
@Colombiarican31 Жыл бұрын
Wait didnt the rally cry by Ezra Bridger did in siege of Lothall in season 2 rallied the Rebels to fight the Empire and not Jeddah? I cant wait to see Agent Kallus in Andor, since he was an ISB Agent during the time of Andor.
@MercenaryPen
@MercenaryPen Жыл бұрын
Bridger's rallying cry will have inspired some to take up arms, others will have still tried to live normal lives until atrocities like Alderaan made it clear that was no longer possible
@V.B.Squire
@V.B.Squire Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Agent Kallus was KIA in terminal list
@Colombiarican31
@Colombiarican31 Жыл бұрын
@@V.B.Squire lol, Agent Kallus havent even joined the Rebels at the time of Andor. Agent Kallus is protected by the indestructible plot armor.
@mattstorm360
@mattstorm360 Жыл бұрын
Blowing up Jeddah city angered people. It rallied people to fight the empire. The liberation of Lothal showed everyone that you can beat the empire. Blowing up Alderaan pissed people off. It rallied people to fight the empire. Blowing up the death star showed everyone that you can beat the empire. What Ezra did wasn't the sole rally cry it was just added to the pile. Not everyone in the rebel alliance was from Alderaan but a lot of people in the rebel alliance were from Alderaan.
@Colombiarican31
@Colombiarican31 Жыл бұрын
@@MercenaryPen good point.
@HolgerNestmann
@HolgerNestmann Жыл бұрын
Love the TV, keep it up
@EchelonNine
@EchelonNine Жыл бұрын
As someone currently deployed I can tell you a lot of times the lines between enlisted and officer are blurred. We’re all there to do a job, but we don’t have to be so uptight on the regs cause we’re all in the same shit. My OICs have given me leeway to do stuff I enjoy like coming in late the next morning after a championship for a sport I watch.
@dukeofwar1003
@dukeofwar1003 Жыл бұрын
What we saw in other media were usually the elite forces the empire had to offer, on ships commandeered by high ranking personnel, so some outpost on some underdeveloped world far away from every supervisor will definetely be quite chill
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 Жыл бұрын
Andor is what great franchise media should be, it is a great piece of media on it own that does not depend on cheap cameos but it elevates everything is connected to. Andor really helped me appreciate so many other aspects of Star Wars. The Jedi as a force for good and why they are a necessity is highlighted here and this is due solely to their absence. Character's like Kanan, Cal and Luke are given suxhbgreta importance.
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 Жыл бұрын
"I encounter civilians like you all the time. You believe the Empire is continually plotting to do harm. Let me tell you, your view of the Empire is far too dramatic. The Empire is a government. It keeps billions of beings fed and clothed. Day after day, year after year, on thousands of worlds, people live their lives under Imperial rule without seeing a stormtrooper or hearing a TIE fighter scream overhead." (Grand Admiral Thrawn, from Galaxy of Fear: The Swarm) For 99% of the Empire that never even got swept up in large battles or schemes, most of them just had the Empire as a big, fat welfare state that gave to them what the Republic did not. Even if we factor in the trillions that died in the Galactic Civil War, the Empire ruled over 100 quadrillion subjects, so less than 1% of them would have seen Stormtroopers or TIE Fighters.
@TheBHAitken
@TheBHAitken Жыл бұрын
1:42 - I'm afraid that is how you will find it at most intelligence agencies.
@randallsanchez3161
@randallsanchez3161 Жыл бұрын
The whole Operation Cinder never really made much sense. It was a poorly written situation to make the Empire look bad. With the Empire falling apart, how the hell do you think you're going to keep it together if you start burning down the worlds loyal to it. Furthermore, WHERE WOULD YOU GET RESOURCES?! It's like the writers forget that a military runs on its stomach. Just getting the food and credits to pay the current military is harder and harder let alone the parts and fuel to keep it running.
@darthverminates9708
@darthverminates9708 Жыл бұрын
Its a sith thing
@cane6074
@cane6074 Жыл бұрын
Its Simply, Palpatine was being petty, as far as he was concerned The Empire belonged him and only him, everyone and everything in it was his property, He did not want to suffer the indignity of what was his falling into hands others. The result was that he wanted what was left of it destroyed out of spite. We have to remember that this guy is a genocidal megalomanic who wanted to use a Doomsday weapon to rule a galaxy through sheer terror, and was willing to destroy a planet and kill Millions of people just to make an example out of them. He did not care about moral cost of such actions because non-Sith were deemed lesser beings and he could do what he wanted to them out of virtue of being a Sith. When came to his followers, they had no right to hold what remains because they had failed and were not worthy of living, which is in accordance with Sith belief. There is a real life example of this of which Cinder was based on, Hitler's Nero decree, which was his last order before killing himself, destroy what remained of German infrastructure to leave nothing for his enemies as well as punish the Germany people for losing. It Shows how much of a monster he was and how selfish and cruel as well.
@ladygrey7425
@ladygrey7425 Жыл бұрын
@@cane6074 Yep. "Let him rule over charred bones and cooked meat. Let him be the king of ashes! Burn them all!"
@bulbakip6380
@bulbakip6380 Жыл бұрын
As prior service, I promise you, the interactions amongst the imperials are ON POINT.
@Jwallsmedia
@Jwallsmedia Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point, it was to show how complacent the garrison was, and the Empire was in general at the time. I also think the ISB interaction very much foreshadowed how sector commanders treat one another, and how the later Empire managed itself. It was a very dog eat dog system.
@Jwallsmedia
@Jwallsmedia Жыл бұрын
You touched on this at the end of the video
@kevinmatthews9064
@kevinmatthews9064 Жыл бұрын
As a social scientist, your analysis is spot on… keep it up!
@stephendaley266
@stephendaley266 Жыл бұрын
Operation Cinder was always an unnecessary plot device, in my opinion. What killed off the Empire after the battle of Endor was a huge power vacuum at the top. With Vader and the Emperor dead, along with some high ranking military officers, what's to stop any Admiral or Moff from unilaterally declaring themselves the new Emperor? In one moment, the Empire went from being one unified force to a disorganized collection of factions, each vying for supremacy. I would not be surprised at all if 90% of the casualties experienced by the Empire post Endor were just imperial factions fighting each other. All the rebellion really had to do was secure the core worlds and let the Empire fight itself.
@ladygrey7425
@ladygrey7425 Жыл бұрын
Basically this was how it happened in Legends. The basically feudal nature of the Empire's society meant that without Palpatine, everyone began to fight for the scraps in something that rivaled or even surpassed the Warring States periods in places like Japan or China. You might even compare it to a Third Century Crisis kind of clusterfuck, and that's the one that nearly brought Rome itself to it's knees (and unlike in Legends, the Empire doesn't have their equivalent to Aurelian or Diocletian to right the wrongs and clean up the mess)
@benjaminreese3107
@benjaminreese3107 Жыл бұрын
Funny way to put it with the title
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 Жыл бұрын
Both Aldhani and Ezra call to arms were pivots in the Galaxy.
@Giarcnek
@Giarcnek Жыл бұрын
Those supervisors are sooo drinking Starbucks.
@PlugInRides
@PlugInRides Жыл бұрын
Even Luke Skywalker aspired to enroll in the Imperial Academy, and become a pilot for The Galactic Empire. It was only his impure thoughts for his sister Leia, that caused him to change his loyalties.
@ElfInTheFlowers
@ElfInTheFlowers Жыл бұрын
This is a great analysis and I think you were on point with the low grade evil that was profoundly horrifying and yet too subtle to call attention. This made me think of Hannah Arendt and the Banality of Evil. It is telling of how the Empire and historical governments irl have functioned. It is more startling to find a mass grave than to count cancer levels from poisoned water. Both are forms of violence but one is banal and systemic. Again, thank you for so much food for thought!
@ovidiumiinea5462
@ovidiumiinea5462 9 ай бұрын
From the guy who punched a fish to supervisor Blevin a long way for Doc Brown
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 Жыл бұрын
7:40 That had me rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.
@mattd2026
@mattd2026 Жыл бұрын
U think we'll see tarkin next season as things fully ramp up?
@charlesjohnson7458
@charlesjohnson7458 Жыл бұрын
cue the 90210 music - with some kind of Star Wars hook
@mat9813004
@mat9813004 Жыл бұрын
The imperials in Episode 6 were evoking the European experience of Colonialism, from the 19th century.
@Eric-ch6gq
@Eric-ch6gq Жыл бұрын
For some reason this video made me realize how much they canonized the campaign from Battlefront 2 2. It was was the scene from Mando season 2 when Mayweather shot his former C.O. for being a part of it.
@bishopmediatvl.l.c.517
@bishopmediatvl.l.c.517 Жыл бұрын
You must’ve never worked in corporate America…it’s all back stabbing and snitching. I always think to myself this reminds me of school.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Жыл бұрын
That is because adults are just more layered kids. There children nature doesn't go a way. Just more layers are add
@probionekenobi1978
@probionekenobi1978 Жыл бұрын
Damn you really explained the demo…I mean empire really well
@CaptainCampion
@CaptainCampion Жыл бұрын
Great video and it touches on something Andor has done better than any Star Wars property to date: it makes the Empire more than a mustache-twirling costumed villain. The Empire is a big, overbearing system of oppression in which all the cogs go about their duty, perhaps never realizing their own culpability in oppressing society. Deedra going from an almost likeable, intelligent investigator to a cold hearted interrogator and then back again is a great example. She's not scary because she's relishing Bix's torture; she's scary because she accepts torture as just another part of her job, no different than making a presentation at today's meeting. The way she speaks to Bix and her facial expressions are merely a little play acting to achieve results. Bix isn't a person, but an obstacle between Deedra and the truth. Torture isn't an immoral act, it's simply a tool in the ISB toolbox. You want to hang someone in the square? What do I care, as long as I don't have to fill out the paperwork.
@Kubinda12345
@Kubinda12345 Жыл бұрын
The Empire in Endor is fascist Italy which was still a ruthless dictatorship capable of great cruelty (Geonosis and Mimban/Ethiopia) but there are limits to its cruelty. However the Empire around the original trilogy is Republic Salo or Nazi Germany; an insane unrestricted cruelty and brutality for brutality's sake with no restriction.
@brittonnevans2208
@brittonnevans2208 Жыл бұрын
Amazing what you can do when the trains run on time.
@TheIndustrialRetrospective
@TheIndustrialRetrospective Жыл бұрын
Cant stop watching this show!!!
@95DarkFire
@95DarkFire Жыл бұрын
2:58 There is another reason to be restrained: It is usually cheaper, because you have to make less of an effort. Control requires constant investment.
@tucker0214
@tucker0214 Жыл бұрын
Hello there friends welcome back another episode of Generation Tech my name is Allen
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo Жыл бұрын
"Special Military Operation". Brilliant.
@hoffenwurdig1356
@hoffenwurdig1356 10 ай бұрын
8:12 To be honest, I experienced a sense of greed and an urge to outsmart all these guests, with the intention of taking their food. It's not that I lack sustenance, but rather it's about the satisfaction derived from exerting power and control over others at the feast. I was born with a physical disability, so it is easy to feel as though I want revenge for having one. And sometimes I have fantasies about sneaking into wedding celebrations and stealing all the food, even though I would never act on these thoughts. Now I take a step back and see that my mindset was mirroring that of the Empire itself.
@TheHonoredMadman
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Yeah they seem to care more about public opinion turning against them more than I ever would've guessed based on what we've seem previously
@michaelshigetani433
@michaelshigetani433 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget how the Empire took over the banks and banking systems. That is worthy of a video or two
@V.B.Squire
@V.B.Squire Жыл бұрын
@1:25 From what I've heard about Intelligence services this is EXACTLY what I'd expect from them
@midgetydeath
@midgetydeath Жыл бұрын
In the Empire’s early days, Palpatine won public support by significantly improving the average citizen’s life, the economy, healthcare, education, etc. He quickly became widely loved and garnered immense loyalty from the citizenry. Even bringing peace, order, and trade to far-flung reaches neglected for millennia, destroying piracy and organized crime (that he didn’t control). The true horror this presents is that Palpatine was fully capable of being an incredible ruler and forming basically a utopia, and he pretty much did so. Which means his clamp down and eviceration of the galaxy and all the suffering he brought using the power and wealth he’d built up for it _he was completely aware of what good he was doing before._ He did the great good, lived it, and then turned it to great evil after having experienced the good he had done. He truly is the most evil being in Star Wars and one of the most evil in all of science fiction and fantasy.
@hellfish2309
@hellfish2309 Жыл бұрын
I understood the Commandant’s pilgrimage plans differently: I thought he developed the pilgrimage trail to incentivize the Aldhanis to travel to the sacred river so the Imps could rendition them and enslave them to build their base; the reason so few make the journey was because the remaining ‘dhanis stayed home uninterested in getting kidnapped or were already pressganged Is that unfounded speculation?
@stevebotham2018
@stevebotham2018 Жыл бұрын
I wanna place an order for a full rack of Ewok ribs and a half dozen roast Porgs
@rippera45
@rippera45 Жыл бұрын
Andor himself is a great example of someone the Empire is pushing towards radicalism. He doesn't want to fight, but at the same time, he clearly has no love for the system. He was fine with stealing from the Empire until now, his own little private form of revenge. But now, he's being punished. Not for his crimes, but for simply existing. And he's seeing just how bad things can get for people in his position. His experience is exactly what Luthen wanted to happen to most people on the galaxy: Empire chokes you harder than usual, so hard that you grab for a blaster to make it stop.
@neilsiebenthal9254
@neilsiebenthal9254 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit.. The Russian accent part got me good. Well done sir.
@lorenzwinterhoff8049
@lorenzwinterhoff8049 Жыл бұрын
Aldhani Battle Cry: STICK IN YOUR EYE!
@warmasterraven1447
@warmasterraven1447 Жыл бұрын
Does nobody else notice the Lego tie interceptor changing position every episode?
@Allegheny500
@Allegheny500 Жыл бұрын
The politics on Coruscant are dynamic and subtle but seem to affect the bureaucracy of the empire more slowly the further from the core worlds they are. And that bureaucracy is still finding its way having replaced most if not all of the people that ran it for the Republic.
@marifonseca31
@marifonseca31 Жыл бұрын
One word: realistic
@BobHerzog1962
@BobHerzog1962 Жыл бұрын
The infighting within the ISB actually serves a purpose and mimicks how actual similar real live regimes handled their intelligence services. By allowing infighting and forceing them to make their case to the next higher authorety on a regular basis they gain and maintain controll. For a similar reason several services with competeing juristriction (double structures) are often in place so the dictatoor can then show favor for one or the other when conflicts are brought before them.
@MBP1918
@MBP1918 Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@sirius4k
@sirius4k Жыл бұрын
Soft and squishy Empire is a good Empire.
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