your journalism into cinema is the best, can you write a story on the marginalization of black men today in cinema - for example the long history of wearing a dress? or how every black man ALSO has to be queer or disabled or mutiliated? how the character has to be heavy-handed with intersectionality so that the image of strong black men is deteriorated? ok thanks, long time watcher and lover of all things Flight

Not having seen Andor (but being a Londoner and going to school as a kid near Barbican), those shots immediately triggered a "I think I know where that is" thought. Its a great place to wonder around and if you're ever back you should try to arrange a viewing in one of the apartments in the complex. They are incredible inside as well. One of my bucket list goals is to own an apartment there. Also, what brand are your glasses? I really like the styling and would love to check out whoever makes them 🙌

Thanks for your review and opinions on the show, but I find many characters annoying, although there are a few of them that are really well interpreted. But those that aren't pull me out of the story every time. And the woke factor is also quite heavy. All these old ugly men and the female officer and her angry unsympathetic behavior don't make me enjoy their scenes. Moreover, some of the characters' behaviors seem so forced, not natural. The protagonists, be they the good or the bad guys, should be enjoyable and well interpreted for the viewer to see. But, as stated before, some are annoying and irritating. As a viewer, and fan, I want a villain to to be enjoyable, maybe mysterious, and interesting, I want to understand his motivations, what drives them, him or her in a story. But as a story, Andor is well written and better narrated as so many other Disney Star Wars stories. / greetings from SICILY

great job

Hey! Mind telling me what music you used from 0:25 to 2:00? Thanks!

the sad thing is, in terms of production costs, doing things with a real set as opposed to CGI everything would probably be cheaper. So the producers who love money more than anything, are spending more money than they have to, to create inferior stories. The Andor formula is also very replicable and unlikely to ever get old, like the myth of the hero's journey. Hopefully we get an andor for other franchises like LotR and Harry Potter. Producers are not the most famous for their flexibility though, or admitting they're wrong, so it'll probably take 10 years before other studios catch on to a winner formula.

The usage and creation of CGIs have been the death of just a lot of Hollywood movies nowadays. They're too lazy to make real sets and hire actual actors or too ambitious with their ideas to the point of replicating it realistically is close to impossible. CGIs should be used sparingly or thoroughly like Avatar. To use cgi regularly and then not is very jarring for viewers making the visuals terrible.

@@spicy5397 Use of real sets has become more expensive as CGI takes hold - There as less companies producing sets to a high enough quality to film / tv as most have had to adapt to CGi. Their costs have gone up to cover for this which si why most studios tend to choose CGI as it can be much cheaper if done correctly

@@spicy5397 You're talking about other movies having their own "Andor" like world regions have their own "Switzerland" and I love it.

More like a meal cooked by your grandparents/parents. A meal cooked with care and attention. It's a very honest show, truly deserving of the label ''art''

They actually just started season 2 production shooting

@@altarproductions2639 True. However, season 2 will still projected to come out in late 2024.

A good type of problem!

At least we'll get Willow to do something with on our now Andor-less Wednesday nights.

2024 :(

And the best part, it wasn't even a throwaway line, or a worldbuilding line. That scene was still integral to the plot because it shows Lt. Gorn covering his tracks by making it seem like he want more security in the vault, instead of minimizing it so he'd be in the clear afterwards, if he'd survived. It displays competence and cunning of a character, while expanding on the theme of regularity. Goddamn what a show.

Those things kinda sound like Stuka diving bombers, and I think it was made on purpose.

seconded. did a number on making the Empire feel like a real threat.

Too bad in the end, they still kinda ended as fodder, all crashing.

it reminds me of that video game that came out a bit ago in the Dragon ball Z universe. The twist being this game is basicly Dead by daylight. You are a normal human level person expreinceing the events of the show as the villens literally eat your freinds alive. Or blow them up with their minds. Or suffer horrid mortal injury and just get back up. Or erase mountions with a punch. The game failed due to other factors but the idea of it was awsome. Experiencing Goku VS Frezzia a thing we have seen for years..from Bulma or yashorbis POV is a whole diffrent feeling when these too guys are actualy destroying the world by screaming loudly. Dragon ball super did something like that for one scene near the start. Where Krillien was spending his days as a viglantie helping the police department. We seen a car chase threw the pov of the random thugs..as the weakest of the z fighters just up and teleports towards the car lifts it up and throws it.

@@ilyali It's absolutely on purpose, Lucas was heavily influenced by WWII, X-Wings and TIEs fight like Spitfires and Messerschmitts, the death star trench run is almost shot for shot "the dam busters", the star destroyers are great lumbering battleships/aircraft carriers, Imperial officers dress like nazi officers

Sooo true. It’s such an awesome show that tells a story

Right now Disney is in crisis in all departments of the company, the good news for the audience is that they either learn to tell consistent stories or disappear.

Better than mandalorian

But your comment makes no sense

@@safi6749 It’s on the same level of The Mandalorian, honestly

Same here. From the first frame, you are invested and interested

But the story really doesn't. Does anyone here really identify with Cassian Andor in a deep sense? What's the through line of the story?

Agree

@@thumos it's his journey to becoming a true believer in the Rebellion, like he was in Rogue One. At the start of the show he's not interested in joining the Rebellion, but his experiences throughout the show changes him. I think Nemik's manifesto as a plot device shows this pretty effectively.

@@thumos Andor's that guy who murders a crippled man (who just helped him) in his first scene in Rogue One right? yeh i cant say i really identify with him either lol

Agreed. In fact, after episode 6 the whole thing feels like two separate seasons and it's amazing.

You're right and it's not just our imaginations. They had 3 different directors do 3 different blocks of episodes, each bringing their A-Game to their respective assignments. That's why each "group" of episodes was so distinctive. REALLY well done. I've heard that Season 2 is going to have a different set of 3 directors, so it will definitely be interesting to see how that ends up.

@@2WhiteAndNerdy They have the same writers returning so I'm hopeful it ends up just as good

@@Force_Of_Habit That's my favourite bit - most shows would just drag out the first 6 episodes and call it a series.

My top 2 was the heist and the prison. God teir SW not even exaggerating

To be absolutely clear; american militarism is bad.

Avatar is perfect examples of James Cameroon hatred for humanity. Someone need to expose this lizard person

Exactly, for this and all of Star Wars not not be seen as an allegory for communal democracy rebelling against a capitalistic fascism is surprising. Like, I'm surprised it took until the end of Mandalorian and Andor for me to connect the dots of the story as allegory, but I also only watched the star wars movies as a kid, not an adult with the relevant context lol.

I spoke to some family members about that yesterday. The meetings were enthralling for me. I've seen some of this at play in a business setting. In Star Wars, it's a little different, because in addition to missed promotions, demotions, and firing, death is a possible outcome. Maybe not so much as in more cartoonish Star Wars films/shows, but still, a very serious situation. For some viewers, apparently, it was boring, and nothing was happening. Crom bless them all. They don't know what a high turnover environment feels like.

It really makes Star Wars feel like a living breathing galaxy, instead of just setpieces for the main story

I haven't seen Andor, but looking at the scenes presented in this video, the first thing that came to my mind was Dune

@@LuisSierra42 change that

That’s a really good connection I didn’t even make til seeing this comment. That was some of my favorite aspects of Dune was the focus on the reality of living on Arrakis and the human moments of the Fremen

@@nickywags0712 yeah I highly recommend the documentary on DUNE as the whole sound design is just a masterclass on world building and immersiveness. The department completely knocked it out of the park and the way Denis integrated them in the process of making the film, including the soundtrack was just such a smart move, I'm surprised how few filmmakers even today still make so little use of it.

So funny, I just shared this video and mentioned the same similarities between Andor and dune and how I love this new kind of grounded Sci fi

yes i find alot of lines in the prequels feel fairly cliched and simply announcing their intent. In Andor, you can see and hear the fear tension in their eyes and voice

Obi-wan's cinematography, camera angles, post-production, and editing was simply bad, lazy, and amateurish. A real letdown.

@@hippoace George lucas was famous for creating really bad dialogue and unnatural conversations, like the sand incident

Exactly. Andor's characters talk like real people. Characters in the other recent shows made the insane decision to mimic George Lucas' godawful dialogue in the prequels.

@@mohamadmirza6346 don't lie to yourself

im not a star wars fan neither even know star wars lore as much, but Andor does not feels like a star wars movie not in a bad way

in any star wars? they were not fodder in episode 4

Having seen a cart of that gold dump during loading, you know that even a single bar hitting him could have done serious damage. This show does an amazing job of letting you see what the stakes and elements are without making it obvious that it's laying it all out for later

So true I even felt terrible for the guy helping bixx… He was hung in center of town and he hardly any screen time

@@tedcannefax6043 Dude I almost shed a tear in last week's episode after seeing Bee's (the droid) reaction to Marva's death.

Excellent point!

@@arafat9828 Spoilers!

I couldn't disagree more. None of the characters are particularly interesting, especially the main character. The empire is as inept as always, they try to sugarcoat it by throwing in some black stormtroopers, one of which gets promptly dropped by Andor like it's nothing, they pull more or less all security from Bix, which enables Andor to practically twerk his way into her cell with (almost)no opposition. There's so many more issues I have with the show, so I'll just end it with saying that I can't wait 'till Mando comes back. That's by far the BEST Star Wars TV-Show produced so far.

..and even Storm Troopers are scary now.

I think it lacks the economy of storytelling of ESB. It's hard to compare, I know, but ESB is still the benchmark for me. Andor still has some odd choices and over-reliance on our own cultural biases and norms, which ESB doesn't. Andor has baddies wearing jodhpurs like Nazis (but in a horseless culture), people saying "aficionado" (in a culture without Spanish bullfighting), and actors who are Indian wearing clothes that look a bit more Indian than everyone else's clothes... i.e. the showrunners are relying on our brains to make quick connections rather than doing actual worldbuilding. The way Mon Mothma's husband is obviously a bit of an asshole because he affects a vaguely Japanese hairstyle is an interesting one... you might not consciously think of him as a wannabe/tryhard/poseur just because he's white but dresses and does his hair Japanaese... but your brain did. ESB is very good at not relying on cultural tropes and cliches at all. Lando is "dodgy/untrustworthy" from the start because he's super-smooth with Leia, not because he's black or dressed a certain way. Yoda does not have any particular human cultural attribute, he's just designed to look as least like a grand master as possible... he is a green bug-eyed alien, which we normally dismiss, of course... Boba Fett doesn't lean into Nazi imagery like Vader at all, he's just still and faceless (ie only in it for the money). And so on...

@@lupolinar they were scary in Rogue One.

@@gospelofrye6881 - I agree with your objective observations, I disagree with your valuations of them. Those mental shortcuts have been part of Star Wars since the OT. The storm trooper/nazi imagery especially. But more importantly, those mental shortcuts are effective in conveying the intended impressions visually, and are a sign of GOOD design. On top of that, even if those mental shortcuts were missing, the writing and acting in Andor is so good, that those shortcuts aren't necessary at all, but they do indeed help to amplify the feelings. While Star Wars does take place in a galaxy far far away, and there is room for arguments that there should be far more alien and out-there world-building, if the world is too alien it becomes difficult to empathize with the characters, and to put ourselves in their shoes, which, in most cases, is the main goal of good story writing. Something else you may have noticed about Andor is its huge lack of non-human aliens in the main cast. This is 100% intentional, and personally, I feel it was the best choice for the story they're trying to tell because if the cast were half composed of non-humans, then our ability to place ourselves in the shoes of the characters and empathize with everyone involved becomes difficult if not impossible. Granted, there should definitely be more alien main characters in Star Wars, however, they would have to be heavily humanized and given a great deal of expressiveness if we want them to have emotional weight as *characters* instead of what all alien creatures always end up being in movies and shows: either talking animals or incomprehensible dangers. Andor made the right choice, IMO.

@@lupolinar how?

TIE...for Twin Ion Engine

@@andys.9526 oh that makes sense

@@andys.9526 jambo namba five!

I used to vacation as a kid in the same areas of Scotland that they filmed these scenes. You'd be out on a hike and suddenly, unannounced you'd see and hear a Royal Air Force Tornado jet fighter screaming through the Glen (valley) at just a couple hundred feet up. (pilot training). If you'd walked high, sometimes you'd even be above the plane. It was hella loud, and not a little bit scary. Seeing these Tie scenes in Andor I couldn't help but feel that capturing that feel was the intention - perhaps by someone in the writing / location team that had also experienced the shock of such violent power in such an otherwise quiet and tranquil place.

@@LittlePixelTM Yeah, I've been on hikes in similar areas in the lake district used for RAF training, and having a jet come screaming through the valley was always very much a shock, both with how loud it is, and how you barely get any warning until they're already right there, given the speeds involved. Rather than a distant plane engine, going 'oh there's a plane', then seeing it, it's more 'what's that noise' then it's right there, chasing it's own sound waves.

Absolutely. Shot as if you'd shot a city that's lived in and known, not as a showcase to the SFX.

Coruscant actually felt like it was the capital of the Empire and the galaxy.

Coruscant was the only location that disappointed me because it didn't look like Coruscant. Too much concrete, and the way the light hit it just didn't look like Coruscant lighting. Everything else worked perfectly for me though, and the lower level where Luthen confronts the ISB spy was PERFECT. I guess that if this was what was needed to keep the budget toward other, more important things, then it's worth it, but honestly, I felt Coruscant at times, just didn't look like Coruscant

Not only is it a well-written character driven story, but it gives equal weight many main characters. Andor may be a main character, but we follow several others. And there are literally dozens of characters who are fleshed out so well. In 12 episodes or less we understand the entire community of Ferrix, the motivations and backgrounds of the heist crew, the prisoners, everyone on Coruscant. Credit to the writers and actors that they don't need a ton of dialogue or lore-dropping to inform viewers either.

Andor puts the focus on the character development, while painting the plot as it goes along. Despite the viewers knowing where that ultimately ends, we experience it develop through the perspective of the characters, most of which don’t know where it’s leading to.

"Plot" is a bit of a stretch there.

Luke?

The writing is so good I even care about Imperial middle managers and flunkies. And the monologues are incredible - like modern Shakespeare set in space.

Lmao well said. Too bad none of the students in my school are interested in anything I like. My closest friend used to be in my school but now is living far away but we have contact via discord and we watch Andor together, I got him to watch it cuz he liked Star Wars but never seen any of the shows.

not just for the 70's feel, realistically a colony (and the people in them) are far and away from the resources needed for anything fancy, so naturally only the higher offices of the imperials have all the Apple Store aesthetic, and the hard-scrabble colonies make do with older and/or practical equipment and machinerythat's cheaper and easier to fix/maintain.

i think it helps that the Barbican building referenced at the start of the video is a late 1960s building created with ideas of what people expected of the future at the time. it’s a futuristic building…but from 50 years ago :) fits perfectly with the star wars look

Yep

It's not as much of a difference between the two. Yes, BR and Dune do have huge grandiose shots, but most of them (not all, but most) are connected to the characters perspective. More so in Dune. There are establishing and overview shots, but we see Atreides ships coming out of the water from Paul's perspective, we see Arrakeen for the first time from the ornithopters, same as we see the worm, same as the two big wide shots of battle for Arrakeen are shown looking "over the shoulder" of Duncan's ornithopter and from the perspective of Paul and Lady Jessica. So I believe Villeneuve understands and uses that perspective method quite well too.

​@@LoisoPondohva Absolutely! And I love Villeneuve for it. I also wanted to mention 2014's Godzilla which is another movie I love for its artistic style and very grounded cinematography. They capture the scale of these behemoths by always placing the camera where a human could be. In a skyscraper, on the ground, in a helicopter etc. But this won't be a coincidence, because Godzilla was directed by Gareth Edwards who directed Rogue One which is the inspiration for Andor. Andor is also written by Tony Gilroy who wrote Rogue One as well!! We've come full circle on the cinematic excellence scale.

Scrolled down to the comment section to say this. Found out its has already been said. Respect o7. Ps: Haven't watched Andor yet but looking at the scenes Thomas showed, it was more than enough to give Vileneuve aesthetic.

Definitely has the vibes, it also has some of the cast - the guy ringing the clock bell and of course Skarsgard were both in Dune.

You motherfuckers with your Villeneuve comparisons are gonna make me sell my soul to the Mouse just to watch this show.

Yeah I loved the bit on Aldhani where the Imperial guys were asking permission to watch the aurora. Just quite a pure thing for some of these horrible bastards to appreciate and want to see.

And it's contrasted by this being the first time we really see the Empire being the shitty fascist regime it actually is. Regular human beings being bigoted, not giving two shits about the sanctity of human life, developing the world's largest surveillance state and cops literally pulling the "hey why don't you calm down" at perfectly calm people trick. ...Specifically to round them up for prison labor. God I love this show.

Right, also the amount of ACTORS and not just those same bunch of faces which you re obliged to link to "mAiN hErO" or "bAd gUy": in Andor everyone seems havign something to say, everyone and every details feel alive. Obi Wan show did the opposite, like "who cares about people, HERE YOUR HERO BE FANATIC ABOUT IT" and stop, no space for giving a Spirit to world building and Story.

The empire is portrayed as normal people doing evil. Full of under-surveillance bureaucrats. Some are really evil, some are just existing in that machine. They try not to be proactive or competent, but only reactive, afraid of punishment. The oppression is inside the imperial machine as well. Actually at all levels from top to botton. Even the "apparent" subservience of Vader in relation to the Emperor is mirrored down in this evil machine.

I loved the interoffice power struggles in the ISB. Just constantly trying to one-up each other like you'd see in a real office.

Yeah, Coruscant in the prequels never felt like much more than a backdrop. It's alive now, as the focus is much more on the people on the planet instead of the scale. In the prequals shots of Coruscant showed a dense, planet-covering city, always showed the size of the skyscrapers and the endless traffic zooming by in tbe background. The shots are so much smaller now, focusing more on the people living there. The daily lives of normal people play a role. And that's with every planet. Why do some planets feel awfully empty yet have Empire presence? The people have been victims of genocide, or depletion of resources forced people to migrate elsewhere, or the Empire forced everyone into centralised hubs. It feels like the world is alive and doesn't solely exist for the main characters to move a plot in.

Yes!

"Tell him i love him more than anything he could ever do wrong." Oof.

@@CantankerousDave Tell him he knows everything he needs to know and feels everything he needs to feel...

You are kidding,right?

I cry every time I hear this line

Look up Buzludzha Monument. It also appears in Andor.

Always cool to see a familiar name in the comments, really enjoy your videos!

@@Balthorium Andor is shot entirely within the UK so Buzludzha Monument doesn't appear. If you're thinking about Ferrix bell tower it's an original set piece designed by the team. A Star Wars film shot at the Buzludzha Monument would be cool though.

@@theamazingwhaleshark4478 I remember where they shot it but the set piece they built looks like it drew inspiration from the Eastern European monument.

I felt the same. The show looked beautiful but the first three episodes didn’t do a great job in explaining to us why we should care about these characters. They came across as slightly annoying, at best, with some of the side characters in particular. But I’m happy I stuck with it because it got so much better, and in the end, we truly cared.

I thought almost the whole thing was quite slow, none of the characters felt more than surface level and frankly were really disappointing to me personally. The sets fell short too, but hey we all have different opinions.

@BOO1101 What are you even doing here

The slowness is actually something I love about British shows. I think speed is one of Hollywood's main issues nowadays

I didn't once think of the show as slow, but then again I often like British shows and feel like many American shows rely too much on action and explicit story beats to move the story forward. Also, my main interests in history are intelligence agencies, and I work for the government. Andor shows so well how corruption can cripple an organisation. Tiresome bureaucracy, officers focusing more on their own careers than the goal of the organisation, it's all very similar to my own experiences and stories from colleagues. Add the slow decent into totalitarianism and rebellion, and you have a show that ticks all topics I find interesting. Andor has implemented those complicated topics very well in my opinion, and it shows the kind of bureaucracy that's necessary to run a totalitarian Empire. And it shows the flaws such a bureaucracy would inevitably have. As a child who loved the battles and fights of the Star Wars movies I probably would have found Andor boring, but as you said: This is Star Wars for adults. Star Wars for people who have worked in a team, who've seen the infighting in an organisation and know that all conflicts are more complex than just good vs. evil.

That makes it a lot less "Star Wars" though, which is not a good thing for people who happens to like Star Wars.

@Viljarms I like Star Wars and I like Andor because of how it's a story that _could_ work in another setting but happens in the Star Wars setting, so... maybe speak only for yourself.

​@@Viljarms The entire show is based around Rebels and the Empire. It demonstrates the strength of the Empire, and shows how rebels fought against that strength. I would argue that it is definetly star wars enough, it shows us a different part of the rebbelion, not just the jedi and sith.

The production design and cinematography are 10/10

@@chasehedges6775 Yeah production design has always been a strong suit of Star Wars tbh but it just feels like they REALLY paid attention to it in this show. The sound design is also incredible, I have never found a TIE fighter as intimidating as it was in episodes 3 and 4

Where can I watch Andor? It is not on Netflix

@@krioni86sa It's Disney+

I'm jealous of anyone who hasn't seen Andor because it is such a great series. Please don't ruin it by watching too many videos about the project.

More space wizards, laser swords, and furbies! Too much talking!! /s 🤣

Actually this may help to look more epic the moment lightsabers or cameos appears in the serie.

Those are people who can't put their phone down for more than 5 minutes and therefore miss the little things that you have to absorb to understand and appreciate most great television. Sure in some parts it's a little slow, you can say the same thing about Better Call Saul, parts of Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Wire, you know, the best TV shows ever made.

I have more issue with that it doesnt feel like star wars anymore, one of the reason is exactly what this video describes, the magic of galaxy far far away is disappearing with too much grounded approach and usage of too much stuff and locations from earth :/

@@rawwad i get what you say, but at the same time getting far from the constant magical spectacular mystical nonsense (in terms of plots, landscapes, cinematography, etc) it's for me a welcome mouthful of fresh air. the sheer lack of stupid humouristic characters is so liberating! and (again, for me) the only way to return to a franchise that seems to be more than spent, drowned in it's own silly attempts to please old fans, new fans, adults, toddlers, studio executives, merch factories and comiccon goers at the same time.

not expanding my relationship with the sequel trash....only expanding my hope they are supplanted by filming of this quality!

My goodness the way you mindless consumers try to justify your meaninglessness, like a 5th grader trying to pad a paper about the ecosystem and seem smarter than he is. Autopoiesis? Really? What do you find extraordinarily/self-creative about Baby Yoda, Jar Jar Binks, or the fact that the movies you love enough to think this much about expound the exact same political narrative you push on Twitter? Do you think any intelligent person shares your interest? You can see that no woman your age would have you, your golden years are the Marvel years, I guess. Do you think it is smart to be so interested in literal political propaganda? What is the purpose of propaganda? Enjoy magicians and Star Wars, old man. Your death cannot occur soon enough. Marred is life by the many-too-many - that's you! You know what's funny? You are the fascist! Maybe spend less time in a thesaurus and more time justifying your existence. Oh, and you use cheese pizza emojis. Yeah, that checks out.

It's underestimated how useful that is, and how few franchises are so ubiquitous that they don't need to explain basic facts. Even people who have never seen Star Wars know there's an empire and a rebellion, space ships, a Death Star, how droids behave. They've seen a clip and heard friends talking abut it. My wife was raised in a cult, sheltered from damn near everything, and even she knew basic facts about Star Wars. They had a lot of room to just tell a story and subvert expectations. While this could have easily worked as a non-Star Wars story, it's better for being one

try watch Attack of the clones 😁

My favorites for the movies are episodes 1-6 plus rogue one. (I love rogue one with a passion) favorite show might be andor. I don’t compare the shows with the movies because you can’t get everything you need in one movie without it being really long, (unless it’s really good) and it’s just two different things :)

@@bikesrcool_1958 😁 mentions AOTC because the dialogue quality differences it have compared to Andor, where Nemik Manifesto, Luthen, Maarva and Kino monologue in the same universe with "i dont like sands" "youre in my very soul, tormenting me!"

There's the shot of them at the end of the main street -- looking out over the Imperial line -- where there's a pause, silence, and then the music starts up again as the crowd marches forward. It's no longer a funeral dirge they're playing, but a battle hymn. Damn thing gave me chills.

the fact that we got this show from the same company that made obi wan is still unbelievable. The difference in quality is immense, and unfortunately it's very difficult to believe that the Empire in Andor is the same Empire with all the awful, cartoony characters from Obi Wan.

@@grproteus Different director do change things a lot

That funeral scene (and the riot following) almost had me in tears because it feels like I have lived side by side with these characters and I can't see them be hurt but I can also see how it's impossible to stay silent and obedient- this show is sooo good.

No kidding. In the finale when Grasso attacked the Imperial soldiers with Maalva's brick, I cared so much. I wanted Grasso to be selfish for once and protect himself, but I also couldn't deny the character his choice to resist. Probably my favorite Star Wars media in the last 30 years.

@@peterstedman6140 Brasso*

@@CramcrumBrewbringer haha yes. Brasso

Definitely! One thing I thought was so interesting as well is how the show set us up to care about Dedra Meero - many of us have been in jobs where we're under-appreciated and have shitty colleagues, and trying to climb the work ladder in spite of the challenges. It's such a HUMAN experience to go through... only for the show to brutally remind you that Dedra is a TEEEERRIBLE person by torturing Bix. Dedra has no empathy, and thrives as a result - because the Empire's bureaucracy doesn't reward people for caring.

ive cared emotionally about characters since I was 3 years old. What the fuck are you talking about? Anyone who watches star wars emotionally cares for and roots for luke, han, and leia.

I think your dad's pulling your leg there. It's actually a Kelly Kettle (it goes by several names). The hole in the bottom is for putting in things like twigs and dry leaves (ie, easy to scavenge loose debris) to heat the contents of the kettle.

Yeah, not just best Star Wars, but one of the best shows in general this year.

It might've not gotten a ton of house hold views, but those who did admit that it *is* the best SW show.

its the best

In terms of all TV series this year, I PERSONALLY feel that Better Call Saul takes the cake but this has also been very very good. definitely at the very top of the list of shows this year.

What was the best part? was pretty boring for me, fell asleep a bunch

I agree. It feels real enough to be like out World but fictional enough to be in another place, just as Lucas wanted it to be.

The sheer size of the Ferrix main street set is nuts.

One of the things about a show like Obi-Wan Kenobi that stuck out immediately to me, was just how clean everything was, especially the clothing. Just look at the very first episode when the inquisitors arrive. You have all these people, stuck on a hot desert planet, and yet every single one of them is wearing clothing that is clean and new. Nothing is frayed, stained, ripped, threadbare etc, nothing looks worn. Hell, the *sand* in the city is clean, it's far too neat and tidy. Even the tables in the bar are squeaky clean, not even a grain of sand on them. No one is sweaty or dusty, the whole thing LOOKS like people in clean costumes just walked onto a polished set 5 minutes earlier. In Andor, the streets on Ferrix are dirty and cluttered, shit is just lying around everywhere, the clothing looks weathered, the place looks lived in, and the actors and extras look like they live there. It has a verisimilitude that Kenobi lacks, and all of that is before we even get to the location shooting in Andor vs the over-use and poor application of the Volume technology in Kenobi.

and less star wars, it doesnt feel anymore like galaxy far far away, when you see too much real world environments, stupid props like Ak47, real goat 🤦‍♂ I want to scream in moments like that. The very first thing he pointed out is one of those that totally threw me off, when I see some of those details like railing or real lamps that I saw hundreds of same in real life, they magic is gone. Its not star wars anymore, it feel like dystopian future from earth :/

@@rawwad Your opinion is just wrong, thats it, Andor is a gem and now go watch your stupid "starwars". Andor is more like original trilogy then all the other new garbage for no brains and kids with attention span of a baby.

I’d argue the Force talk did, some of the Resistance stuff works as well. But I get that, Andor was able to execute everything better than TLJ and most other SW projects

First since Revenge of the Sith to me. Last Jedi tried but didn't even come close. It failed to grasp even a basic understanding of the universe

thats a great insight

I noticed this as well - I really hope they take him further next season and I'm really interested in how his relationship with Deidre will develop

Exactly. Stating the obvious, it can also be said that Cassian Andor is the Han Solo of this story: small-time criminal who reluctantly joins the rebel cause. And he’s got his signature blaster.

The tragedy is that he genuinely doesn't know about Dedra's interest in torture via mixtape or ability to casually order the murder of a prisoner. He thinks that she and the ISB are defenders of law and order, not the ruthless boot of a fascist regime. I'm thinking that he'll realize that in season 2 and will have to make a choice, and that will make for a good story.

Well said.

Cinematography* Filmography is a list of films someone has worked on, but I agree 😋

@@itsd0nk haha! Thank you, love me some good sci fi but tbe field i work in is far removed! Seriously though, AMAZING science fiction!

First two episode are slow set up Third episode delivers then it start another three episode arc and so on

I felt very much the same way. I’ve been really impressed and positively surprice by this show. Hope you will enjoy too

andor is 100% the best show of the year, highly recommend it

@@tedcannefax6043 3 episode cycle/pacing actually makes it better for me tbh. It accents the moments of action by providing character contextualization and world building that makes it more valuable.

porc, when you finish watching Andor you might also enjoy this video about Andor's architecture and cinematography. Caution, because there are some minor spoilers in the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrtkf8mbxte6ZYE.html

It was fantastic

Netflix Daredevil did the same.

My fear is that is will be hijacked by the woke tyrants and turned into social propaganda once it excellent writers, producers and directors have earned and achieved a large invested audience.

@@seanc1105 There's only 1 more 12 episode season (for better or worse) so hopefully it won't come to that

this. it executes almost to perfection both the intrigue part but also importantly the ideas that Lucas was trying to get it (arguably going even further)

thanks for sharing!

Yeah this is honestly my favourite part of the show, recontextualizing the oppressors as fearful paranoid cowards. That when they flex their power with massacres, arrests, indefinite sentences, etc, it is not brutal or cool, its utterly pathetic. As a small addendum i noticed that with the costume design, they made the imperials just look a lot more goofy. The officers suddenly have ridiculous flared pants. And with the acting, the imperial soldiers marching do so in a way that looks exaugurated and played up to a silly degree.

You know, I kind of disagree with the last point. I find Deidre (the isb woman) to be one of the most compelling villains I've seen in SW media so far. Her very humanity which makes her so imperfect also gives her a far more appealing personality. When you watch her, it doesn't only feel like a general in an opressive regime, she is also an expert at what she does, entirely dedicated to her beliefs and fighting to shine in a male-dominated field. That makes her, to me, a villain I found myself rooting for, despite what she was working towards. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "unsexy", sure, she isn't a very beautiful woman, but I think she is attractive in the Dom kind of way, and in the "person who is completely dedicated to her craft" kind of way, which I feel is a far harder kind of sexy to be in a villain, rather than overt sexualization.

Unsexy? I dunno, I find Denise Gough pretty sexy.

Thanks for the kind words and support Craig!

... or perhaps you find my politics too strong for your taste... *mic drop*

Best STAR WAR show EVER!

@@chasehedges6775 I haven’t even watched ep 11+12 yet but I agree! this is what happens when talented and skilled people are given enough time to understand and work with each other.

It does make me wonder if Star Wars has actually been harmed (or at least held back) by bringing in people who are big Star Wars fans and trying to appeal to that demo (The Last Jedi seems to be one of the few other things that didn't care about that as much, then Rise of Skywalker overcorrected) - using Star Wars as a way to tell a story seems to work out so much better than than trying to tell a Star Wars story.

@@Tuaron Absolutely true. Many big modern franchises are harmed by what I personally call the "checklist effect" where the story was clearly decided by a committee going through a checklist of what they assume sells well to the broadest audience possible. This drains the actual writers of creativity and also results in some of the desired checklist points come off as half-assed or pandering. I totally agree that it would be much, much, much more desirable to just let the writers go ham and write stories they would like to see in the setting to expand the franchise instead of constructing whatever some suits think a Star Wars story needs to contain.