I always think of the escape pods in the first few episodes of Clone Wars. When the droids are just ripping open escape pods while clones suffocate in the asteroid field, just giggling the whole time.

3:20 in Obi Wan's defense, he didn't tell him to "stop selling death sticks", he told him to "go home and rethink your life". Whether or not he kept selling them was still *entirely* up to the dealer

7:00 The Geonosians were also using wepons that basically would melt the inside of who ever gets hit by the blaster ring. They would also eat the clones alive. So flame throwers seem kinda justified.

To me Clone Wars is Peak Star Wars. All the cool planets, fights and aliens people wanted out of the OG but the deeper themes, characters...and more exciting fight scenes from the Prequels. It's perfect

9:30 when Anakin and Windu both quickly agree on doing something you know it's going to be utterly brutal to the enemy. This scene really makes me think if Mace had agreed to take Anakin with him they would have worked together to end Palpatine.

One thing that should be noted about Ezra taking control of the AT-DP pilot was that he was using Force Dominance, the Dark Side version of Mind Trick, so that was already gonna be a bit messed up anyway. Of course, it's even more messed up by the fact that the victim of Force Dominance is fully aware of what's happening, but has no power to stop it

I'm sure there are other worse examples, but one of my favorites was part of the Umbara Arc. Specifically, the whole episode aptly named, "Carnage of Krell" where Pong Krell manipulates the 212th and 501st troopers to shoot each other and later cuts down dozens of clone troopers including breaking the back of one of them with his bare hands.

Surprised you didn't include Maul's escape from order 66, going down the hallway cutting clones apart with chunks of metal platting and holding the one clone in the closing blast door.

Ahsoka, thanks to help from R2, took out four Mandalorians by cutting their heads off in a split second with her signature spin move. Easily my favorite scene in all of Star Wars.

Honourable mention to the death of 99. A defective clone written off by those that made him and only lived because the Jedi are against needlessly wasting life, but wasn't allowed to be a soldier or go onto civilian life but was made a custodian. Then when his moment arrives to be the soldier he always wanted to be, he is then gunned down in the back going to retireve more grenades for his brothers, while they desperately try to destroy the droids before they can kill him but its too late.

The Ezra one definitely took me by surprise. While I can defend most of the jedi war crime, Ezra on the other hand was definitely all his decision with some persuasion included. It was definitely one of the most dark moments in that show.

It's funny because these were some of my favorite parts of the clone wars, I liked the bold and darker themes that made the show seem more realistic. That's kinda what I've always wanted Star Wars to be.

I always thought Slavery was one of the darkest moments in animated Star Wars; The Zygerrian Arc showing my favorite characters being treated as less than a person was eye opening and beyond dark and brutal Surprised it didn’t make the cut for this list

My personal number 1 messed up one was the zygerrian arc. Like several moments from that arc lol.

I think the scene that really cements (at least for me) the Clone Wars as not just a show for kids, but something that can absolutely be watched by adults happens in S1E21 (It's the Ryloth arc). Wat Tambor just straight up says: "Target every Twi'lek village in range, the inhabited ones first" as Hyena bombers take off. To which the scene changes to a column of AT-TEs and a clone reporting to his commanding officer that the scouts reported only civilians (mainly women and children) were left in the village ahead of them. Then the sensors start blaring notifying the clones that bombers are in their sector. Then the clone wars animators just immediately show us the village being carpet bombed, completely ignoring the very viable military targets near the village. Need I say more. (I do). It all happens so quickly and it really doesn't advance the plot much. Yet he Clone Wars crew still created this scene, for what I assume to be their fidelity to convey the reality of war. Even if it is in a galaxy far, far away.

That one scene from the Obi-Wan series where Vader focre snaps the kids' neck, that's the darkest Star Wars I have ever seen.

Star Wars ain't Space Sunshine and Space Rainbows after all

Fives and Jesse being sentenced to death by firing squad was pretty dark too

7:33 Anakin Skywalker wanting to leave and be with Padme: "Me too Best Buddy. Me too."

that Cad Bane scene had me shook when I saw it the first time, and I was much older than the CW's target audience. The thought of the people who talked about this and that not being the Jedi way, but then basically doing a mind flay was pretty confusing. But the again Cad did kidnap kids so he kind of deserved it.

bro maul decapitating clone heads with wall panels and pulling someone's arm off through a closing security door post-order66 was by far one of the more metal and brutal moments in the clone wars imo

The episode with the Geonosis Brain worms was terrifying.

A brutal scene that always comes to mind is the death of Riff Tamson. The graphic annihilation of his body is something I will never forget.

What is the very first adult moment in Star Wars? When Darth Vader unknowingly ordered his own daughter to be tortured.

The friendly fire incident during the battle of Umbara.

I’ve always thought that Obi Wan’s negotiation with the separatist general on christophsis was great foreshadowing to how brutal this war was gonna get.

Dont forget almost everything that happens on Umbara. ._.

For me, it is Maul's storyline in Rebels. There's just this vibe that he's tired of living. He never quite comes out and says it, but it is there, right from when he shows up at the Sith temple. He's rooted in the ways of the Sith, so turning away from the darkside doesn't even occur to him. He must struggle, he must fight, and therefore, the only peace, or, if you will, the only freedom, he can hope to find is in death. And so there he is, seeking out Obi-won, probably still telling himself he wants vengeance, but what he really wants is for Obi-won to kill him, to finish what was started on Naboo.

Sending children into battle as commanders of troops. Ahsoka messed up a lot to start with and got alotwof clones killed. Sending her into battle as a child with little clothes on was bad enough... 😂

I also love how the second Clovis storyline goes, as it is a very adult subject about how it is often necessary for a would-be dictator or an actual tyrant being able to get complete control of the banking system and thus the treasures that it provides. Without forcing Clovis, who was trying to be an honorable man, into the moves that compelled the Republic to send an invasion force and then grant complete control of the pecuniary system that is banking to Palpatine, Palpatine would not have been as fiscally strong as he was when he reorganized the Republic into the Galactic Empire. This in turn meant that Palpatine had the currency to grease the palms of select individuals to keep himself in power and to empower his military to crush anyone that resisted his reign.

The only question I have is why doesn't echo have a prositic that has the data jack in his arm almost like the hand can split apart and the jack can come out. This would give him his weapon hand back and make him a stronger member of his team

I always thought it wasn't a coincidence that, in the first Clone Wars episode to not air on regular television, a Clone shoots a Jedi at point-blank

For that death stick dealer, in the comics he seem to end up with a family with a picture showing him with a child, likely his.

George Lucas: “It’s a film for 12 year olds.” Star Wars EU: “Unfortunately, history will not see it that way.”

Not sure which episode of clone wars it was, but when Ventress plunged her light saber into one of the troopers and kissed him while he died I was like… yeah… not really for kids😅

Great vid once again. I absolutely adore the idea of exploring Echo dealing with himself perhaps only being a fragment of who he used to be. That's a "TAKE MY MONEY" type of project IMO.

" I Turned out" very relatable

I remember Allan’s quote from an old episode “And yes geonosians pop and crackly when lit on fire”

It was the Twi’lek slave girl on Zygeria jumping off the balcony to her death when the queen of Zygeria suggested she go back to “processing.” That one was a little rough. The begging, the fear, and then the self-endgame was.. Heavy.

Man I wish more people remembered when Rex casually executes a wounded Umbaran soldier in the episode “The General”

The umbara arc was very dark as well

I always thought Aniken stabbing the senator who was taunting Obiwan and Satine through the heart was pretty cold!

Ezra was using knowledge from sith Holocron at the time - so basically sith knowledge... thus killing with stih knowledge kinda does fits sith use of force...

The scene I thought of first is during the defense of kamino when asajj ventress kills that one clone officer and then kisses him

there was that one scene over anaxes where Anakin tortured Trench for information then killed him once he got what he wanted

Crosshair and his squad's foray on Onderon is a good one for this.

that one time asajj ventress impaled commander colt with her lightsaber and gave him a kiss never left my mind. i.. felt things

Paratrooper parenting? Sounds like Tarkin

As a kid, I always loved animated shows that have a complex plot, nuanced characters and so on. I despised filler based cartoons. Things like the long, story driven, arcs in CW, were my jam. And I was a 6/8 year old boy. Sure I was a male hyper active kid, but I think that there's objective beauty in the "tougher" plots of the Fillioni shows.

In Ezra's defense, he's controlling the joystick of the walker instead of the driver. Pretty sure if he's controlling the driver, he'll have to control the gunner as well. Or else, the gunner will kill the rogue driver. And I hardly think Ezra is strong enough to control two people at once.

I am *VERY* surprised you didn’t mention all of the onscreen chum during the battle of Mon Cala.

"Paratrooper Parenting" has to be one of the best lines I've heard all week. Thank you for that.

That is actually very possible as most of the low level dealers are fronted product and expected to bring back x amount of money to their supplier/ lieutenant

One thing that confounds me about Obi-Wan is the fact that he did not use his relationship with Satine as a point of empathy with Anakin. Oni-Wan could have made a better attempt to connect with Anakin's fear of loss and it may have gotten Anakin to trust him enough to open up to him more about Padme. The two of them could have really bonded over each of their personal attachments with the women in their lives.

0:51 So Alan was brought up the same way that Wilhuff Tarkin was raised? Interesting.

Ahsoka simultaneously beheading 4 Mandolorians in The Clone Wars - that one sticks out every time the subject of savage SW moments comes up.

Jedi....war crimes....never....

I know this isn’t bad as all the torture, but what about the time that Anakin beat Clovis in Padme’s apartment after he became jealous of him? Or the time Ventriss kissed that clone after scewering him, or that entire night sisters arc? Those were all pretty bad too

On a scale of one to 40K, I'd say these shows put SW in SG-1 territory. Some dark things, but the good guys are on the whole entertainingly heroic. Legends materials push it up the scale, possibly approaching Brigador levels when you start getting into things like Entechment, the Caamas Incident, and the Yuuzhan Vong arc.

10:22 “Vent Ashoka out into vacuum.” *AMONG US!*

Realy missing the CIS venting Escape pods after their ships got stuned/destroied by the Malevolence that moment and Ezra forcing the stormtrooper to kill his comrades and then himself are imho the darkest moments of Star Wars animated if not even Star Wars overall

One animated moment that stands out to me is from the original Clone Wars cartoon when Anakin, with his severed mechanical hand, Force chokes a Skakonan scientist and is semi-worshipped by the mutated Naaalvan males

Anyone who thinks the animated Star Wars properties are for kids has not watched any of the animated Star Wars properties. These things aren't just dark, they're sophisticated. They're layered. They require some investment to fully understand and appreciate. They're also beautifully crafted pieces of cinematic art. They are the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being. Even though some of the human beings are human only in the metaphorical sense.

Not from any of the shows but from JFO- the whole thing with Cere betraying Trilla to the Empire, the scene in which a teenage Trilla (so still a child in the eyes of us older fans) being tortured by the Empire, and the implication of what happened to the children Trilla was looking after and meant to protect. Trilla can't have been any older than 19 (so still a baby in the eyes of someone in their late 20s), and having siblings that are currently the age she would have been, the idea of someone that age being sold out, tortured brutally, and very possibly forced to watch the execution of children she knew and cared for is a pretty hard idea to stomach. I love that game, but the torture cut scene specifically is always really hard to sit through, especially since you can't skip it

7:23 Duchess Satine: "H-harder!" Obi-Wan: "What?!" Maul: "Whoa!" Death Watch: "What the frakk?!"

Bro the Ezra Bridger one was outta pocket 😭 I was fuckin YELLING at that scene

Clone wars is the gold mine for adult moments in animated Star Wars and that’s why I love it. They weren’t afraid to show the brutalness of war

The clone wars scene when Ahsoka cuts four death watch troopers heads off at once, is truly stuck in my mind.

Holy crap I forgot the moment where Ezra used the mid trick to make the Walker pilot /himself

You forgot about the senate

No mention of Fives executing a wounded and helpless Umbaran after they destroy his tank? "No juice left in him either"

I can't remember the episode, but there's one where Obi wan has to negotiate something and the regent has a trap door he opens and just lets some Twi'leks drop to their deaths. I think it was "Innocents of Ryloth", but i could be wrong.

flamethrowers are not just horrific weapons, they are also a prime target for the enemy, see the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan, you do not want to be anywhere near a flamethrower soldier when he gets shot or the tank is shot.

my favorite arc was the umbara arc. idk why, but pong krell and his betrayal, plus the clones being shocked to find out.

Everytime I hear people say that Flamethrowers are too horrific and indecent I can't help but think. "...bitch this is war not Nerf, decency went out the window the moment bullets started flying."

Yeah Ezrah went dark side in that walker sceme. The moment I thought of was Umbara in the Clone Wars.

Cooking the Mandos in their armor comes to mind...

The invasion of kamino had some messed up scenes in it, then the flame troopers scene on the bugs the scenes of WW2 combat footage where they’d burn out trenches or pill boxes in a simile manner after that I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a flame tank. Next one would be the false orders by the rebels to basically eliminate the imperial garrison without option of surrender available.

"they retcon Maul's death" meanwhile Malak, Malgus and Sion are doing a group facepalm

Id include the time where Ahsoka decapitated 4 death watch members and then you could partially see their heads rolling on the floor lmao

Savage beheading everyone in a single attack made my jaw drop when I watched it.

Allen: Dave Filoni Star Wars is too catered to kids Anyone who has seen the shows: Laughs in warcrimes

Maul literally means to inflict wounds by scratching and tearing. Darth Maul lives up to his name. Basically, I’m not surprised of the amount of war crimes he’s committed with a name like that.

Studio Trigger's short in Visions when the Jedi mast activated his lightsaber right on the heart of the darkside user

1:00 think I’m starting to see where his hate of dolphins and strange creatures stemmed from

Anakin does war crimes all the time. Surrendering to lure ambush is just one of a long long list.

From what I understand, flamethrower weapons are restricted, but not outright banned. Also, they have been used for sugarcane harvest during peacetime, according to wikipedia.

The Umbaran campaign was one of the darkest moments I remember watching in StarWars the Clone Wars

The “I turned out.” 😂😂😂

One thing I think you might have dodged to keep the video monetized was the likely reality of Satine being raped by the deathwatch at the orders of maul. She is in a really messed up state when kenobi arrives in deathwatch armor to free her, and when she sees the deathwatch armer, she says “here to do your master’s ‘bidding’?” While being uncharacteristically reserved, yet with a fear in her face.

I'd love to see a part two

What about a video on Cad Bane and his top kills or top jedi kills. I think that would be a very interesting topic. Also love the content, keep it up 🙆‍♂️

That last one with Savage was awesome in its simplicity but you missed the decapitation scenario when Asoka took the heads of I think 7 of the mandalorian death cult. That was a brilliant maneuver! My jaw hit the ground. You’d expect something like that from Maul but not Asoka…

Honorable mention for Kalifa's death.

It was a pretty cold hearted thing to do when Ventris force held a clone trooper and then impaled him on her lightsaber before kissing him as he died.

the silence after the "i turned out"

Am I the only one who wonders if Paratrooper parenting is what the Tarkin family called it?

Not sure if flame weapons are illegal in star wars. I'll have to check the Anaxes war collage for that

U only need one name: Pong Krell

My "favourite" Scene is, when Ahsoka beheads four Mandalorians with one swift move.