Ed Friedland - The Bass Whisperer demos the new Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 Combo
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@BassWhispererTV16 жыл бұрын
It sells for around $1,200, and it is well worth the dough! This is not some cheap piece of junk that's going to break down after three gigs. I use mine on virtually every gig, and it totally rocks, I get any tone I want from it. They now have the 12" extension cab too.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
I've never had the chance to spend a lot of time with the MB stuff. I played through one once and liked some of the features, but I couldn't give you a real evaluation of the quality. I have however been playing on the Genz Shuttle rig consistently for well over a year now and have never had any problems, it always sounds great, and is always a joy on the load out.
@LCGone13 жыл бұрын
I got this one a year ago and still sounds and plays great...not to mention is light to carry around. I Love mine!
@spatemdim15 жыл бұрын
Very practical combo. Just about thought of everything...size, sound, versatility, and portability.
@iwantagoodnameplease16 жыл бұрын
That looks like a great bit of kit. The fact it's light as hell in impressive as well! It's given me some ideas....
@andbassforall16 жыл бұрын
I have the Neo Pak 3.5 All the same tone design as the shuttle and I love it. I use it on most gigs Even used it thorugh an Ampeg 8X10 one evening. Typically I use the Neo Pak with a Neo 2X12 cab . Love it. Only regreat is that the shuttle come out shortly after.
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
It prevents degradation or loss of signal due to a failure or bad connection in your effects chain. It can also allow for adjusting the overall level of effects in your sound.
@BassWhispererTV16 жыл бұрын
It has a tube driven preamp, the power amp is Class D - digital amp. That's why it's so light.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
Not sure what a Db dropoff is... but it handles the low B just fine. It is designed with a low frequency rolloff which gives you better power efficiency and more clarity in the low range. It is not a sub-bass rig - it's a well-focused, portable gig amp.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@mikeymacaque - I've used the Shuttle 6.0/12t for 90% of my gigs for the last 2 1/2 years, and I've never been disappointed. I obviously have a personal preference for them, but that is not to say the others are bad, I just don't use them.
@BassWhispererTV16 жыл бұрын
It does get a nice tube driven tone, I don't use it much myself, but I do work the tube gain for coloration sometimes. This amp rocks, I use it on every gig now.
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
Well, the Warwick fretless 4 I purchased back in January was the first non-Fender instrument I purchased in over 20 years. My first bass back in the early-80's was a Hondo II P bass copy. I primarily played guitar in the 80's and my guitars were mostly strats of various stripes with the exception of a 1959 Gretsch Tennessean (not sure if I spelled that right), which I traded a Firebird reverse for. There was also a Washburn Shadow solidbody classical style guitar.
@RenoLaringo3 жыл бұрын
Hi ! Terrific rig you have ! Would you have any idea where those can still be purchased ?
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@MajorImpact - Yes, it also helps on concrete. Low frequencies can couple with any floor, not in the same way - but the Gramma still helps. I won't play without it. I've had mine for ... 7 years maybe? Ever since they first came out, and I've never, and I mean NEVER played a gig with my own gear without it.
@klpinvestments16 жыл бұрын
Man that amp sounded great when you were using the pic. Geez, you could get a great 'Tool' kind of tone out of this amp!!
@Spaghettaboutit16 жыл бұрын
Justin Chancellor uses two ~1,000 watt solid state amps that each go into a cab that has two 12" speakers and a tweeter...it's not a tube amp by anymeans....a tone amp yes, but most his sound comes from the EQing that his Wal pickups do, and the amp just does a really good job at keeping that low end while still having very nice high mids.
@Terrible_Peril15 жыл бұрын
more power means more headroom, which means the possibilities of dynamics and sounds are expanded. that's always a good thing. the trouble is that people use the higher output amps strictly for more volume. i read an interesting article on the mixing of CD audio recently. basically most CDs made after 1990ish in the US, the volume is pushed passed the limit and then snipped so the whole mix is ruined in terms of dynamics. and it makes a difference in the overall sound.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@BurnToFade - Yeah, I like the tube pre, and the extra power is always nice to have.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
No, in fact they built an extra 6dB of headroom into the clip light. When it goes off, you still have plenty of room, it's sort of a soft limiting function. This amp rounds off the edge more like a tube amp, not like many digital amps.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@idigcars - It might, depends on how thick the rug is, but the idea is good. Check out the GRAMMA by Auralex, it's a foam pad that costs about $60, but it's worth every penny. It isolates the cab from the floor and greatly reduces the low frequencies from "coupling" with the room. Tighter bottom, better clarity - I never, and I mean - never play a gig without it.
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
That Skyline 55-02 is a monster!!
@Bassplaya4string14 жыл бұрын
OK! This solidified my decision for the GB amp! You demoed it with the HT bergantino cabs!! THAT sounded killer!! Thanks!!
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
Well, I did test out the Phil Jones amps with my upright. You can see the videos on the Bassguitarmag channel. However, I will say that the Shuttle sounds exceptional with upright, it's my main rig for all my gigs.
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review Ed! It was on the strength of this review along with a recommendation from one of my Warwick Forum bros, that I bought one of these sight unseen from Music 123 (none of my local music stores carried them).
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@mikeymacaque - The GK MB 112, which is the closest in size to the Genz is only 200 watts, the Genz is 375 or 600 (with extension cab). That's a big difference for gigging. GK has it's own tone, a signature sound, if you like it - that's a good thing. Genz is more neutral, it imparts less coloration on your tone. The LMII has some cool features, and many people like them too. It's got more power than the GK. They are tuned for lower freq. response than the Genz, but I think the Genz is tighter.
@Ryanhand15 жыл бұрын
Those Bergantino cabs sounds nuts
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
That is a Lakland Joe Osborn V. The White Precision is an '88 MIJ.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@Harbec - Sorry for the slow response. No problem using your pedals, just be smart - it's a little amp, not a big stack.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
This is the first I've heard of those amps, I've never seen them in the US. If I get a chance, I will check them out.
@BassWhispererTV16 жыл бұрын
I don't have any MM basses around now, but sometime in the future I should be getting a review Sterling 5. I'll try to use the Shuttle with that review when it happens. Hey, don't wait, just buy this amp! It has become an indispensible tool for me, I don't want to gig without it.
@MrJghm13 жыл бұрын
this is the exact review i need to watch/hear to pull the trigger on this little thing xD
@Checker1O116 жыл бұрын
Amazing, I have to get one.
@nicoptw15 жыл бұрын
i just got two 1x12" cabs, and you're right! thank you!
@jpuckett198914 жыл бұрын
I think it's great to see how far you've come Ed. May you contiue to grow and progress in your success! Also good to see you can pronounce neodymium now ;-)
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
Well, I think you need something bigger than that for metal and hard rock, at least 600 watts. Look at the Genz Benz GBE 750 and Uber Bass 212 cab. Ashdown makes nice stuff too.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@mjctfd9 - The Shuttle gets pretty loud, but when I need to rock... I add the 12" ext cab for the full 600 watts and two 12s.
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
Dude!! You're a night owl too!? I took a look at your website, and saw that you're a fellow Texan. Austin's a cool town-- I have relatives there. I'm from the Houston/Galveston area myself-- currently living on my sailboat- hence the purchase of the Genz-Benz 6.0 12T. May give you a shout sometime via email on what led me to play bass and the songs that inspired me as well. I will warn you that I'm a Warwick fan waiting for a special-ordered Corvette fretless fiver, though.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
Yeah, GK makes nice stuff too.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@vitaobass - yeah, just don't go below 4 ohms.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@pedroV2003 - Sure thing, I use it for upright all the time. It's great.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
The Joe is a different animal. Apples and oranges. They are both nice.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@Musicman20UK - I have not heard anything regarding updates, GB does not talk about what they have in development - they tend to wait until the product is ready to ship to make announcements. But I'll say this - I am still playing out of this exact amp you see in this video. I've had it since January 08, I've played the hell out of it, and it still sounds great and works reliably. Don't wait, get one of these.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@jpuckett1989 - Thanks.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@emerican10 - Yes, it will put 600 watts into your 810. I know it seems strange to have such a light amp on a heavy cab, but it's still 30 or more lbs. you don't have to carry. Next, get yourself a lighter cab!
@BassWhispererTV13 жыл бұрын
@seba330 - Sure, I use it all the time, of course I'm not playing metal... If I need more coverage, I add the Genz Shuttle 12" extension cab.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
I think it would do just fine. I use it to power my 212 cab and it's huge. You get 375 at 8 ohms, and 600 at 4ohms.
@MojoMan_6916 жыл бұрын
I believe it runs around $1100 US. It's only 375 watts @ 8 ohms, add a second 12 inch cab and it'll give you the full 600 watts at 4 ohms.
@Spaghettaboutit16 жыл бұрын
My bad, I'm pretty sure he has one cab in the said 12" speakers and he also has a Six 10" cab.
@limeyamos16 жыл бұрын
one of the best amps on the market right now. markbass watch out! I just hope to someday afford snappy new strings all the time like ed does ;-). Too bad Genz Stuff is so expensive right now.
@jg04312 жыл бұрын
with the two Bergantinos... I only have only one word: DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!
@rodl200513 жыл бұрын
Love this li'l amp. So small-able to fit in lap top bag, & does a great tube overdrive too. I like it much better than the GB Streamliner
@klpinvestments16 жыл бұрын
Just ordered!!
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
What about that 'burst Jazz V standing to the left of the Bergantino stack? I have a Jazz 4 string I really like and have considered a V. Also, I'm not a Precision guy but that MIM sure sounds sweet!
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
The 3.0/10 is a great little amp. It obviously has less power and speaker coverage than the bigger one, but it is surprisingly loud and full. It can handle a low B quite well, but of course you can't get stupid with it. With the matching 10t extension cab, it can handle moderate gig level with drums and guitars, just don't try to play Metal with it.
@RafaelFontMusic16 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed! Thanks for another great review. Do you have any MusicMan around that you can play into this if you still have it? How does it sound? Is there hope of a video of it? Either a Ray or that neat Bongo 6 would rock.
@The1Kong13 жыл бұрын
Please try one of them Ibanez Promethean with any setup it´s available. I checked the 2x10'' - Combo as well, but I decidet to buy the 1x10'' - because of it´s weight. With the built in 10'' - speaker You will have 250 watt - enough for every little gig or practising! On smaler gigs I use it with a 2x10'' Peavey 210TVX EX - nice! Real awesome, what power comes out of that little 500 Watt-amp with this cabinet! My guitarist felt his trousers like flattering.. Now I sit here, watch you and play.
@BassWhispererTV15 жыл бұрын
I find that 12s are a great medium between the quick response of a 10 and the beef of a 15. I started with 15s, then went to 10's.... now it seems all my cabs are 12s.
@Deadbassplayer15 жыл бұрын
Now i know what i want
@KiRiMa6412 жыл бұрын
Ed,you're the man!
@Terrible_Peril15 жыл бұрын
8x10 cabs are so rarely actually NEEDED. either have the band turn it down a bit or run to the PA via mic or DI and stop compensating- says i. i play through a pjb flightcase most of the time, though. never needed a whole lot more. but if it can't be done with a 4x10 or equivalent, something's wrong.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@RLHubner - Well, you can get a more hifi tone with the filters, it will never sound like GK though. GK is GK, Genz is Genz. Will it cover your needs? I have no way of knowing that, but i use this amp 90% of the time. If I need to get loud, I add the extension cab.
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@chrispurchase - Have not tried the 210. I'm sure it's great.... but I tend to prefer 12's so I'd probably stick with this one anyway.
@TheDaivisch15 жыл бұрын
I'm undecided between the shuttle 6 and the GBE 750. I love the portability and "cuteness" of the shuttle, but I'm not actually too fussed about portability. I'm attracted to the extra features of the GBE750. What's your recommendation? I'm going to mate it to a GK neo 212 cab
@tsiggy14 жыл бұрын
best bass rig review so far (and i 've seen a few)! congrats. Can i rent you for an hour?
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
You've sold me on it as well. Will probably get one instead of a Jazz V. What about the rosewood fretboard vs the maple? Did you get the std pickup setup for that bass?
@Terrible_Peril15 жыл бұрын
i'm not entirely sure what the correct term would be for what happens to CD audio... limited seems to fit pretty accurately, but i'm not as boned up on my audiophile terms as i once was... a drastic reduction in funds will do that! haha :) i'll try to find the article and PM it or reply to your comment and get it to you if you like. also, try a search for 'coat hanger audio cable blind test' or similar terms. luckily, i make my own instrument/audio cables nine times out of ten.
@TheDaivisch15 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks. I dont think Im going to be able to wait because at the moment Im putting a crappy 130 watt Peavey through that cab! How would you describe the difference in tone? I would try them, but VERY few shops stock these in the UK.
@RLHubner14 жыл бұрын
@BassGuitarMag Would I be able to get this amp to sound more Hi Fi like the GKs? Also, I have a 500 watts 212GK combo and it has enough power for me but, I wonder if a 112 combo would suffice my needs. I was taking a look at the Markbass amps but I can't get through my head that only one speaker can fill an average room with bass. Thanks for all the help man, you should be nominated as one of the most resourceful bassists on youtube.
@nicoptw15 жыл бұрын
any reason why you always use twelves? Your demos are really good
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@302861 - Uhm... thinking... Acoustic Image is one.
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected-- whenever I see an MI, my brain automatically says MIM because they're so ubiquitous these days. Speaking of the Lakland Joe Osborne V, have you reviewed it yet? How does it compare to it's Fender counterpart (feel, sound, case candy...)
@Harbec14 жыл бұрын
Amazing review Ed (neodimian), I have a few analog pedals, could it be dangerous/crappy sounding to play with this digital circuit amp and speaker?
@j3rdog16 жыл бұрын
wow that's a tube amp yes? I gig with the fender bassman 250 2-10 cab with 15 cab extension which sounds nice but gezz that thing would be a big improvement over what I have now huh?
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@MajorImpact - try it, you'll hear the difference.
@RahuXVII15 жыл бұрын
I'm still new to the pairing of heads and cabinets. How well would this head power an Ampeg B410 HLF, and what other cabinets would you reccomend for this head to get the most out of it.
@gazzy_burns14 жыл бұрын
Ed, any news if Genz plan an updated version of their combos in the future? Im after a 1x12 combo...thanks!
@23bozz12 жыл бұрын
Is this a pretty versatile amp? Like can I get basically any tones I want from it? I play a variety of styles so I need versatility.
@extantia15 жыл бұрын
That Joe Osborn V is a monster-- what type of pickups does it have?
@vkr99315 жыл бұрын
I think it is a Ruby tubes 12AX7.
@bassface8415 жыл бұрын
LMAO... "Neo-dym-nnnn... Neo-Dyn... Nnnnn..." That totally made my day, Instant classic! Don't worry Ed, your still that dude! better luck with the pronunciation next time... XD Great review guys, keep up the great work! P.S. when u guys gonna break out the upright to see if it plays nice with all this great equipment? don't forget about us...
@ExiledGeist15 жыл бұрын
voilaaaaa ! ^^
@BassWhispererTV13 жыл бұрын
@bbBassYo - Yeah, funny shit. I know.
@gazzy_burns15 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed....Im from the UK....I nearly went for a Shuttlemax 12, but I have just read here that Genz have something new coming out?! Is this true? Should I wait?
@chrispurchase601214 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed, Just wondering if you have tried the 210 combo as well and if so which one you prefer out of the two?
@emerican1014 жыл бұрын
alrighty i have a gallien krueger 8x10 cabinet . this may sound really dumb but would this head work with it? lol my 8x10 is rated 800w at 4ohms, but it just seems really weird for my cab to weigh 180 pounds then the genz benz weigh 4 pounds.
@tbcass16 жыл бұрын
Nice amp but I'm old fashioned. I prefer the deep full sound that I get from a 15" speaker. I actually prefer the sound of my less expensive Ampeg BA115 better but it's a personal thing. I also don't want anything with tubes because of reliability issues and I don't like distortion even from tubes.
@gazzy_burns15 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed I am based in the UK...I might be getting a Shuttlemax 12, but is this true what you just mentioned that Genz will have a new amp soon?
@BassWhispererTV14 жыл бұрын
@tsiggy - Sure I teach online via Skype.
@ergbass13 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed, I am between the Shuttle 6.0-210T, and the GK 700rb with 2x12 neo cabs. I play jazz fusion, wich one of this would you recommend me? Thanks a lot, you are so helpfull!
@Spaghettaboutit16 жыл бұрын
DAMN! Eight 10"....
@vikingraider115 жыл бұрын
Any idea what make of tube they use in the pre-amp?
@vitaobassbr14 жыл бұрын
can i go to any cab configuration, like 4x10 8ohms?
@seba33013 жыл бұрын
do you thing the Shuttle 6.0-210T has enough power to use it in some smaller club? thx
@duncanmathers769 жыл бұрын
Hey, what kind of speaker is in there?
@Bugmeister9612 жыл бұрын
@bassguitarmag would this cut through a marching band when in a pit?
@ane60014 жыл бұрын
is this lakland skyline???
@PhatPhunk16 жыл бұрын
Lol!! Another awesome review!
@pedroV200314 жыл бұрын
Ed have you tried this amp for upright?
@njegos8813 жыл бұрын
SIIIIIICK!!!!! :)
@spikestripe12313 жыл бұрын
@ergbass i am trying to make the exact same decision