The drop off from McKinney to Nubin shouldnt be that significant, McKinney was good yea but was he a pro-bowler, no.

Singletary averages more yard per carry than saquon. Let that sink in

Love how Alex goes on a 5 minute rant about how bad Lock is and saying pairing him with Daboll won't do anything. Then says Lock is literally Josh Allen before Daboll made Josh Allen better, yet here Lock is with Brian Daboll lmao I also love how pessimistic about the team Alex has become over the years bc I've become the same way. I just assume the worst. If we do good then I'm happy, if we do bad then I expected it and I'm never disappointed lol

I think overall we have improved. I disagree with Tyrod Taylor being dependable. Any time he goes in as a back up he inevitably gets injured. That is not dependable. He’s experienced and a very good QB but not dependable. He also made mistakes on the field that a seasoned QB would not have made. I’d roll with Tommy. And let Daboll work with Lock. Clearly he sees something the less experienced don’t see. Hope we keep 3 on the roster.

Our defense is SIGNIFICANTLY better with Burns alone. You overrate McKinney's role.

just wanted to remind you guys of how good of a job both you’re doing! i always look forward to content from this channel 👍🏽👍🏽 as a giants fan i’m very appreciative of the team loyalty

They are definitely improved. The OL and DL are better because of smart FA agents I know Parcells “You are what your record says” But…2 seasons ago, we won more than we should because of a few key plays went our way and last year we were worse than we should have (Gano situation and Waller PI no call against Buffalo) didn’t go our way Think how 3 seasons ago ended with Glennon at QB. My 82 Bergen Catholic team could stay on that field with them. Talent was a wreck and salary cap was a nightmare We have way more talent and don’t have a single overpaid player except DJ and the way QB salaries are going, his contract is beautiful

Don't understand why people are still talking about saquon he never did anything for us that I can remember 🤔

Can’t watch this cuz it has drew lock as a main part still love you guys

Hey Alex and ant can you make a video on who you think will be a surprise cut this year?

Preseason is a good measuring stick of what the regular season would bring!

If the Offensive line can block the correct color jerseys we will be vastly improved Doesn't matter if we added Randy Moss and the Next Gino Smith backup. We still have to play 2 regular season power house teams in the regular season with Saquon now on one of them . I'm feeling a 9-8 season. And provided things are moving in the right direction overall I'm ok with that . Sneaking into the wildcard seems possible. But again the biggest unknown is still our biggest weakness with the Oline.

Lets wait until REAL GAMES are played. With the Giants...you get what you see.

I am looking forward to see it, but until we dramatically improve the O-line we will not go anywhere. Period. Hopefully we did and it is noticeable. I pray!🙏🏼

I agree that, barring unlikely really major improvements in play from the likes of Flott or McCloud (it HAS happened--think Andrew Thomas after his rookie year or Dexter Lawrence from season 3 to season 4, but I ain't optimistic here) and/or an even more unlikely Sauce Gardner-like rookie season for Nubin, the secondary is taking a major step backwards this season. (The are a few veteran CBs still out there that the Giants could sign with some of the Waller savings, including Adoree' Jackson, but I'd be surprised if Schoen goes that route.) However, there may be an even bigger stealth regression for the Giants--the interior defensive line. With the departure of Leonard Williams late in the season, the Giants have arguably the best DT in the NFL in Lawrence and ... well, a whole lot of nothing, really. A couple of veteran career backups and a few former Day 3 picks that have yet to show much. Frankly, while innumerable Giants fan bitch and moan about the team's failure to draft any OL, which was defensible IMO, I was more surprised by their failure to draft a DL, which may not have been. Update: Stupid me, I forgot we also lost A'shawn Robinson. This is worse than I stated earlier.

How can you call them most improved when they haven't played a game!

Lock COULD have a decent year if DJ isn't producing, he has good experience and is only 28 years old, he has room to grow for sure. I don't think he's going to light it up, but could potentially give big blue a winning season. Especially with our defence looking pretty solid this year.

I need to see the NY Giants improve on the field myself to believe they improved.

I actually disagree with Tyrod being a better backup than Lock. Maybe in terms of talent sure but I feel like the best thing a backup QB can guarantee you is durability. Tyrod doesn't provide that at all.

Drew Lock Breakout is insane…

We got a crazy front 7 and if DJ gets any time the passing game gonna b nutts !! We could’ve won 9 games last year with me playing qb .. no way we don’t shock the league especially with the new leader’s attitudes

I agree with Alex's assessment of Drew Lock. Lock has his moments when he looks like Josh Allen's talented cousin with his size and arm strength, but there's a reason why Lock has been a backup for most of his career. Lock is not accurate, struggles learning the playbook and processing in the pocket. Behind the Giants O-Line, Lock is going to struggle more than people realize. One guy no one has talked about (and I am not talking about Tommy DeVito) is Nathan Rourke. The Giants picked him up on waivers from New England. Rourke can play. He is a very accurate passer, he's very mobile, he will know that playbook inside out by training camp, and he is a very, very hard worker. Watch his pre-season footage last year for Jacksonville. He should have been named the backup over Beathard. Watch his CFL tape. Ohio plays in a smaller conference, but Rourke took them to 3 consecutive bowl victories. Watch his footage. Jones is going to get injured, and Lock is not going to cut it behind this offensive line. Daboll's job could be on the line if the Giants miss the playoffs again. You never know if Rourke will get a shot: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJaEqK6Lusiso58.html

Agreed. Most likely Giants are buried for the forseeable future with all the improvements made by the other NFC east teams. What improvement for the Giants? No QB. No secure OL. No depth anywhere. No CB2. Etc etc. 3-5 wins this year imho

It’s an interesting conversation, but it’s also incredibly speculative and dangerous to say how much value rookies will bring who’ve never played an nfl snap. Same with aging veterans changing teams like Keenan Allen or guys coming back from injury. Time will tell… I think Schoen and company did the best they could to improve this roster via FA and the draft with what they had available. Last year they improved the run defense coming off the playoff win. They assumed their young O-line would progress with Ezedu and McKethan and Neal… and added Schmitz… we all know how that turned out… absolutely horror show… 85 sacks… down to praying for a 3rd stringer to be the real deal when he was a the highlight of another atrocious bag of dook season… don’t count you chickens before they hatch. ;-)

I see what y'all saying but I still think the giants can have a decent year or even be a good above average team

Just the same as calling the Giants “most improved“ without having taken a snap, anointing Jayden Daniels, and praising the Washington Commanders moves, feels premature. Austin Ekeler is washed up, and Brandon Aiyuk doesn’t play for them yet. While Philly and Dallas are still miles ahead until proven otherwise, I don’t see them as these unstoppable juggernauts that can’t be overtaken. Well I can understand the skepticism from fans, it’s way too early to start getting negative about this team.

This be the most negative take from you guys have had this year. I’m not used to hearing this from this podcast. But I have to admit, you both have valid points. And I like the Devitto take instead of Lock. Time will tell. Maybe we all are wrong and Daniel Jones becomes a superstar and this team becomes a contender. Yeah, wishful thinking but stranger things have happened. Good video as always.

NYG won 6 games with arguably the worst roster and one of the toughest schedules in the league in 2023. With Malik Nabers at WR, it opens up the offense so teams will not load the box to stop the run but back off the cover Naber and the others. On defense, we should have a better passs rush with Burns now. Prediction: 9-8 wildcard.

Tyrod Taylor best back up by far GOAT!

Hey Alex don't count the Giants out they will be a true contender in the NFL East

Danny dimes breakout

Fs is a dying position you can scheme for the loss of production but not so much at De.. they will pick up a sneaky corner but the season starts plus look at nubin strength, fundamentally sound which means he shouldn’t get beat deep

I am probably the only one that saw this behavior but I think Saquon Barkley merely gave lip service to the concept of 'Team'. There were plays in critical situations that he let the team down. I'm not referencing his lack of 2018 superior production. I'm referencing his lack of football intelligence, of leaving it all on the field... I, for one, won't miss him in the backfield. There are many reasons why we didn't win. He wasn't in the top 10 but I didn't like his effort at times. If he does well at Philly, Oh Well. His production there would not have been similar to his production with Big Blue. It was time to move on. On another note. I'm shocked Evan Neal has a stranglehold on the RT position. Not a fan...

Adoore Jackson is a free agent still Gilmore is a free agent and so is Justin Simmons

Most important improvement that everyone overlooks……. New oline coach.

to use a baseball term , Barkl is Good but he lead the league in home runs and strike outs

Drew is not better than danny can we stop this

This guy.......

Go get wirfs!!!!

We are just starting yr 3 in a 5 yr rebuild. We were absolute dog doo doo Look at cap. We are going into 53 man cutdowns with potentially 25 M in space When is last time that was true In Schoen we trust

How can Taylor be reliable when he gets hurt every time he plays? Tommy won games in that gimmicky offense and he is too limited for the offense Dabs wants to open up and run. You need a strong armed QB for that. Allen throws tons of ints also, and Geno was trash with multiple teams too. So I get where you are coming from but to say never, and then some of your points are off my man.

Sorry but two things I have to disagree with, one a minor disagreement and your own workds explain why its possible and the other is a big one. Small one is a possible Drew Lock breakout. Now do I expect it, absolutely not. Is it possible yes for two reasons. One as you said Lock looks like a Josh Allen arm talent that never really improved. Daboll had a hand in fixing that so much like Geno finally finding a coach to use him and fix is game to starter level it is possible. Also the One year allows for it to be better worked if it does happen without creating more of a media circus wirh the Jones contract. The big one is the Devito obsession. The guy is not an NFL QB, while he may have some swagger and the ability to rally a team, his release is too long and to slow, his reading of the field is only slighty quicker then Daniel Jones and he is basically a less talented version of Tim Tebow. A guy that managed to get wins inspite of his lack of ability and is more loved for name hype then on field skills. Yes he is cheap and thats wonderful, but he is also not helping advance the tram in anyway other then maybe merchandise sales.

Hey Alex maybe if you are more positive about your team then maybe they can be better. I understand the frustration but that's how the Giants are they will frustrate you and then out of no where win a couple of super bowls. I really enjoy y'all here on fireside but every time Alex is about to talk about the team, I say to myself here it comes, a few minutes of straight negativity. Alex just gave other teams "improvement status" without them even playing with unproven players but the Giants must prove it to him during the season. Like I said, I understand the frustration but at least be consistent across the board.

65% 30%.. Alex be pulling numbers out his a$$.. getting hard to listen too

How can they be the most improved team when they haven’t even played yet????You have no idea about the OL or the QB play. We have a bunch of rookies who aren’t battle tested yet .I know you’re excited about the season but give me a break. This is a young team with some good parts but we’re still a long way ogff

McKinney was good but mid

This dude Alex doesn't like the Giants for real

Alex loves players we dont have smfh. Done

How can you say Taylor is reliable and consistent, and than say he has injury problems? Both their takes were trash. How you downing Lock when you dont even know what our c level QB, "Jones" will be after a major injury. And PLEASE stop with the danny D talk.

Taylor played great but both years he was hurt right away. If he could stay healthy he would be our QB1. But he got hurt both yrs so he can't even be QB2.

Our secondary is unproven, Both ssfties questionable, 2nd CB, & slot is questionable.

Bull shit on drew lock

Most improved in the league? Really?

You guys still comparing singletary to barkley? Lmaooo. Ok. Not Even close. By week 4 singletary wont be able to run. The disrespect you guys spill sometimes smh.

Bears rookies are unproven in the nfl

Wow who let these guys do a pod cast... str8 garbage... hands down the Giants definitely improved there roster...

most improved? how bout we play a game first 🤷🏾‍♂️

Stefon and d hunt are old as fck

Dw lock wont be needed cause Danny Dimes has a break out year with a better o line better Dline. plus our WR room is the best DJ has had. So wait our defence got worst cause of X ????ALEX YOU CLEARY DONT KNOW SHIT. GO GAINTS

Lock is a bad decision maker and is inaccurate. But other than that he's good.😁

Alex go learn something about football.. str8 bias opinion

I’ve gotta unsubscribe from this!! Alex Wilson you’re too negative for me!!

Guess I’m the only one who thinks drew lock is better than Daniel jones.. I’m sorry but jones is trash,, I would rather see Tommy devito or drew lock start before jones

Bears hands down

Drew Lock sucks.

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