What's your preference? Camshafts that have decent power in all areas or targeting power in the low to mid or mid to high?

Just put the Woods 22XE in my 22’ SG and damn! 🔥🔥 You will not be disappointed!!

very solid great advice for bolt on power n great sound for our loved 114 m8's Thanks for making this video, once I put a cam in I will never go back to a stage 1 only upgrade, especially on the m8 114 motor, soon as my warranty expires im going to out the woods extreme ! it has a long time at peak torque n high horsepower woods 22 ex but the zippers is all you need and more!,

My 2021 Street Glide Special put down 121.14hp and 129.45tq. Screamin Eagle Ventilator Extreme intake, TBR 2 into 1 with turn out exhaust, and S&S 475c cam. Bike is tuned on Power Vision by Abel at Killer Creek Harley Davidson in Roswell, Ga. These M8 engines are incredible. Very little modification to really wake them up. The cam isn't what you'd find in a typical bagger, but I'm not your typical bagger rider. I like that top end power and the never ending pull in the upper rev range.

The Woods 22xe in a Street Bob 114 would make a fun ride. Great info as always. Have a great weekend!

Quickly becoming my go to for info on my 114ci performance.

Was looking for info on the 22XE. When you came up in the results it’s a no-brainer. Down the rabbit hole we go! Always enjoy your content!!

Wow. Great stuff 👍. Ride safe and have a great weekend. 🇺🇸

Awesome spread! Seriously considering the Cycle-Rama

Man that woods 22xe seems like the cam for me. That torque curve was absolutely fine !! Keep in mind , the 114 is a stroked 107 with bumped up compression. Two great things.

I installed the 468 Zipper’s in my 2017 FLHTK and it works excellent for me, covers all my needs for Touring Power 👍🏻

One of my favorite creators because u actually respond back, people like that, I get if u had a million sub's, u can't.

Very informative! Thanks for sharing!

Just dropped in the 22XE in my Lowrider ST. So happy with it. She pulls hard.

Getting a S&S 475 fitted as we speak. Going on my '21 fat bob with vance and hines short shots, screamin eagle heavy breather and tuner. Can't wait to pick it up.

Just not the same without the shelf ready to collapse.

Right on Man. I can’t see your hands👍🏻😉

Am going to upgrade to the 22xe for how I ride. Thanks for the nfo!!

Wood 22 X-E all the way!!

Liked it!!!! Have a twin cam now and am looking to get into an M8 114 in the near future. Great info as always. I’m kinda stuck on the Woods for my twin cam and now I’m thinking in the near future the same for the M8. Thanks!!

I have the Zippers cam and D&D 2 into 1 pipes (love it)!

Great video! Really well done. I have an S&S 475 but I must admit that the Wood 22XE is a beast! I might consider this Cam with the SE Stage 3 122 kit.

Gixxerfoo with the great info as usual. Underrated content creator.

The performance improvement from these cams over stantard is massive👍

I had the 475 s&s in my 107 road king se tuner it was fantastic!😮😊

I have the 468 red shift. Fueling cam plate and fueling oil pump. Bassani road rage 2 into one. Very very satisfied.

The woods cams are impressive.

Went with the RS468. S&S oil pump and decatted headpipe, vented dipstick. Love it.

Nice comparison bro. I like the Zippers over all, if you just wanna cam tune and pipes. Great daily ride. If you want to pump it up a little, then the S&S for sure for performance!

Great video

Dang that XE looks sick!

@Gixxerfoo that’s awesome info and I’ll do a bit more research , but hey bud please keep up the great vids.

i just bought a 2022 road glide and been watching a lot of cam vids and so far i think im going with s&s 475 but have not decited chain or gear

Just put an S&S 475 in my 2019 ultra limited. Your videos really persuaded me to do the cam install. And now my M8 114 sounds and runs amazingly.

I like this guy, very informative and humorous at times. What the hell, I'm going for the Wood 22XE. Call me crazy because I am only 170 pounds in weight on a 2021 Softail Standard and never ride two up these days. The thing is my riding style has changed a little as I got older and both curves peaking early is perfect for me. Wish me luck....

Great video. Would love to see same style of video with a 117 (CVO AND ST Model)

With a good pipe and drop in kn filter that cr480 has the stock injector cycle tapped out at peak torque! Here in Australia companies like APE have 130hp builds with that cam on the 114 with 6.2gps injectors and 64mm m

After watching several of your video's and seeing the Amsoil stickers on the toolbox. You appear to have your poop together I'm a firm believer in Amsoil. So you have another subscriber

Great video thank you!!would of liked to see you do a andrews 462 cam for the 114 maybe next time👍

22XE on my 2021 Street Glide Special 114 and love it.

Thanks nice info!

got the s&s 475c kit coiming in the mail for my 2021 fxbbs 114

woods cam rock!!!!!!!

Great info GF

I have 30th anniversary fat boy and just ordered woods 22xe with s&s oilpump Kit and extras. I can't wait to get it back after winter.

Bought wood 22xe today. Adding Bassani 1s94r too 💪👍😎

I just got a street bob with a 114 I love it and am thinking of upgrading the cam. I guess it would be mostly for the sound because if I wanna go fast I will just buy a sport bike with more lean angle I miss my Honda CBR for that.

I got the 22XE in my 2018 heritage classic with the 107. It’s like a new Bike with the full stage 2 now. 108HP@ 5.61 RPM 122 ftlbs @3.48 Bike becomes a beast @3krpm 2500rpm and under, power is flat

The s&s 475 is the all time favorite...

That Wood WM8-22XE is impressive in a stock 114. High Torque (hits early, impressive near tabletop flat mid-range, & power in the higher rpm range). The S&S 475 cam is a great all around cam, with nice sound/lope. The Cyclerama 480 cam looks very good also. Very curious how the S&S 465 Cam and the Moonshine Harley/Comp Cams 485 Cam compare to the Wood 22XE. A shootout...Touring chassis Harley, Stage-2 114 with stock compression and stock heads, high flow air cleaner and free flowing exhaust system, along with proper Tuning, would be extremely interesting.

Got me the wood 22xe on its way. Ordered that and oil pump cam plate, tappet covers amd quickie pushrods

Woods XE GO FOR THE BEST AND BIGGEST. THANK You my Dear friend. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ALWAYS. ERIC

I have a 03 FXD 95 inch Twin Cam with the Wood TG8 gear drive cams. LOVE em

I'm putting in the woods 22xe cam into my 2019 FLHTK, with a full cobra exhaust, adjustable push rods and an arleness heavy breather. Being done right now Hoping it gives me the get up and go I'm wanting. And of course a good tune.

Awesome comparison video! Now to find these dyno graphs with a 131ci🤔

All these cams are great bolt-in cams. My preference, based on Torque Curve (approx. 2000-4000 rpm) is the Woods 22XE. I'm already planning on this cam combined with a good 2-1 exhaust (and supporting other mods) for my '21 RGS with the 114 M8. Thanks for the video. Would like to see a Part 2 to this (Bolt-in Cams, 114 M8)...Zippers 472 Cam, S&S 465 Cam, HD SE 447 Torque Cam, maybe a few others. Thanks!

I’ve got the 22XE cam in my 2020FXLRS. Absolutely love the cam profile! Another buddy of mine also has a FXLRS and he’s got the CR480.

First came the 107, now the 114, soon the 117, and finally I absolutely need to see stuff for the 131!

Got the Woods 22XE in my 114 Breakout. Also have the Woods lifters, S&S adjustable pushrods, billet tappet retainer, chain tensioner, cam chest and oil pump, and Andrews crank sprocket. The bike is a beast and pulls hard through every gear. Completely different bike now and sounds amazing.

22XE, all the way

The M8 motor has quite a few areas that are prone to failure ( lifter,valve seats loose, sumping problems , etc ) even with so called bolt in cams can excellerate those issues ! I suggest searching for the aftermarket fixes for those issues before or while you are installing even a bolt in cam ! If you have a problem while under warranty HD is going to put the same junk parts that failed back in your bike !

Great videos so much information I just wish someone would make sound 19:16 clips of all these cams at idle

I wish I could talk to you because I have questions; 1. Are these graphs provided by the manufacturer? Because comparisons are out the window because there are too many variables. 2. Like 99.83% of us watching, we're not racing anyone and never go above 3,000 rpm! So, most of these cams are of little value. 3. Not a word from you on perhaps the most import aspect for most of us; SOUND!!! I have plenty of engine on my M8 114 with full exhaust & tune. I want "sound". So, which one sounds the best? That's what I want to know. I've only heard one cam in an M8 which was the HD Screamin' Eagle, and it sounded like stock. 4. The S&S 475 you selected to compare is very popular, but not the highest on torque. That would be the 465. Why didn't you compare that one? So, with all your information provided, you didn't help me decide which cam to buy. My price estimate for a "bolt on" cam is about $3,000.00!. These numbers of $220.00 for a cam are dishonest.

Great info as usual. It's been a year since part 1, would love to see part 2. You have two of the top 5 bolt-in cams that I have narrowed down my selection too. Woods 222 xe, cycle rama 480, star racing 30-30, Chris Rivas rocket cam 474, T man m8 216. I will be choosing one of these cams for M8 114 build

Have you looked at the 22xd? Great video by the way.

Hi GixxerFoo ! I recently found your channel. Love the videos and information you provide and this in particular was a great comparison video. I have a question regarding cam upgrades... They always do these comparisons to a stock setup versus cam + pipes + air intake updates. I know it probably doesn't get the most out of any cam upgrade, but was wondering... What would the numbers look like if you only put in a cam and did a tune? Are they very marginal or half-way decent? Personally, I find the stock setup pretty good so aren't really looking for monster upgrades. I generally like the quieter sound from the stock setup (of my 2021 Road King Special) but wouldn't mind getting some lope put into the M8. And who doesn't like a bit more power. So I was thinking... I'd like to keep the overall pipe noise down, gain some lope, and don't need all the power gains... what if I just add the cam + tune to a completely stock setup? Keep up the great work!

My father in law turned me to your content and I love it. Just picked up my dream bike (2017 CVO Street Glide). Did the vented dipstick and Rinehart DBX so far. Going to add header and tuner next year along with a cam. I don’t really rip on it, but I like to have it if I need it. More into cruising and bar hopping. What cam setup would you recommend for that? Thanks!

The s&s 475 is hard 2 beat...

Wood WM8-22XE👍

Nice

Awesome video! I am a big fan of zippers but like the S&S a bit better. I would do the Woods XE just to go all out with no second thoughts or what if’s… my only concern is reliability. What do you think would be the best considering longevity and reliability? Thanks again!

About dyno sheets... Peak numbers are just that, peak numbers. They won't tell you how the bike performs across the rev range, for that you need to look at the torque curve. A flatter curve will give you more useable performance over a wider rev range. A lot of the shape of the curve is down to the cam, but a lot is also down to the exhaust system. Performance numbers will vary from bike to bike, even with identical setups. Performance numbers will also vary from tuner to tuner. Differences in elevation (air pressure), correction factors (STD vs SAE vs DIN), and dynos will produce different numbers even from the same bike. Don't get too hung up on small differences in numbers, they are likely down to variance. Where the curve starts is determined by at what RPM the tuner is starting the pull and where he cuts off the graph. Some will start the pull at 2000 RPM, some at 1500 RPM. That says nothing about where the power comes on. To determine where the power comes on, you need to look at where the torque curve climbs the fastest. The 22X-E curve is a good example (14:20), the tuner cut off the graph at 2100 RPM and yanked the throttle at 2200 RPM. Had he started the pull at 1500 RPM, the torque graph would have plateaued earlier. Horsepower will always continue to climb after the torque has peaked. hp = tq * rpm / 5252. As long as the rpms climb faster than the torque drops, your engine continues to produce power and the hp graph will continue to climb. Your engine stops producing power when the torque drops faster than the rpms climb which is after the hp graph has peaked. This is why the rev limiter is set to just after peak hp. There's no benefit going beyond that. Peak horsepower is your ideal upshift point for maximum performance. The torque and hp curve will always cross over at 5252 RPM: hp = tq * 5252 / 5252 ... hp = tq * 1 ... hp = tq. The relationship between torque and horsepower is linear. If your engine produces 10% more torque at x-rpm, it will also produce 10% more hp at that same rpm. To increase peak horsepower, the cam needs to provide more torque at peak horsepower rpm. Since torque is a curve, if a cam is designed to deliver more torque at higher rpm, that means it will deliver less torque at lower rpm. Most people ride at lower rpm (2000~4000 rpm) than at higher rpm (4000~6000 rpm). You should always pick a cam that performs best in the rev range where you ride.

I simply cannot believe that 22XE can achieve numbers like that with only exhaust, intake and a tune , considering that it is their chart 🤔! That test bike must be “massaged” to perfection 🤔 It is impressive though, none the less!

Had RS 468 & S&S 475. the S&S kicks it and sounds bad ass, love it.

Thanks so much for the videos... They are awesome... And recommendations for my set-up? 2019 RGS 114 M8.... I have the HD heavy breather... Tab performance 2-1-2 header w/ Tab zombie mufflers.... Being told that this exhaust will rob me of gains... Really sucks since I just did the exhaust a few months ago.... Any thoughts are much appreciated

Hey my friend, I was hoping you could answer a few question for me!? Well, it's more about your opinion and my best option to get the best performance out of my new 2023 Harley Davidson Fatboy 114 (vivid black). LOL 😂 You don't know me (duh!), but I really like watching your videos, as they're very informative, technical, and opinionated. But first just a bit about myself, so you can get a feeling about what I need (Stage 1, Stage 2, etc.,). My name is Cpt. Michael R. Metzler Sr. and I am a former Marine (7 yrs.) and now a U.S. Army Aviation Maintenance Officer 🚁 Helicopter Test Pilot (retired veteran). I owned a 1991 HD Low Rider Custom back in 1997, but the bike was a bit to small for me. I had to sell it when I left in January 2003 for Melgar (Tolemeida), Colombia to work as a Test Pilot for the Drug Interdiction Program with the Department of State and Colombian Army. Well, now I have my new bike and I am a about to buy a set of Vance and Hines Big Radius exhaust and a chrome Trask "Assault" air filter system (stage 1). I will also buy a new tuner, but I would like to know which tuner you think would be the best. The next question is about the bolt on cam. Which of the ones you referred to do you think would be the best for me, as I want that true Harley sound that my bike does NOT have being stock. That's one reason I want the V&H Big Radius. But more than that, I want the performance and the rumble that comes along with it. I now live in the Philippines with my Filipino wife and three gorgeous children (2 Filipino-Americans and 1 Filipino step-daughter) and we don't have the wonderful highways that we have back home 🏡 (New Orleans (East), Louisiana). I mention that because my trips aren't very long, unless I head out for a ride with some friends (1-2 hours) or go to Manila for a servicing of bike, which is about a 7-8 hour ride from my home in San IlDefonso, Ilocos Sur. But that's only a two lane highway and all of the others around are one lane! LOL 😂 Definitely miss home in terms of riding! 😊 Please give me a shout when you get a chance to read my very lengthy comment. LOL 😂 Thank you very much and please keep the videos coming. 😎 God bless you and the family! 🙏❤😊🚁 Sincerely, Cpt. Michael R Metzler Sr. 😊

You present great info and the best one was the WM8 -22XE but you should look at the bolt in cams from fueling, the 405 would be a nice addition but the 465 and 472 cams are very impressive for being bolt in cams

ALL the cams are great it’s comes down to preference

Love the show! 2 aspects of cams I don't hear you speak off: Influence of cam timing on static vs dynamic compression - can a cam compensate for a factory low compression? How aggressive are cams on the valve train; steep vs round lobe profiles

Wood 22XE For A 117. Installing one this weekend with all the fixin's.

🛑🛑 Gix....Great Video and Info👍. I’m really, really impressed with the Wood XE, however I do believe the S&S Cam would be a “better overall performer”👍💯 You are Wise...Obi One😂👍

I can attest to the Wood cam being worth every penny and far better than any SE cam

For me it is the S&S 475!

Nobody else noticed what his calendar says in red???? Thanks for the comparisons.

That 22XE in a big bagger would be great for 2up riders going on long trips. More than enough tq to get you moving, but tons of HP available for passing on the interstate.

I have decided to go with the CR480, S&S lifters, S&S adjustable pushrods, S&S tappet cuffs, S&S intake, Screaming Eagle extreme breather and the Bassani Ripper exhaust. Let's see what number I'll get.

Great report...just curious do you happen to have a chart on the andrews n21..never saw a dyno chart on these..thanks man

Great info on this vdeo, I have one questions regarding Anderews cams, I didnt find much info about them. I see they have a new 465B and wonder if you have anything about this one.

Awesome video Just picked up a low rider st What cam would you throw in a m8117 with tbr exhaust

I think I just watched this video for the 50th time. Great video. I am in the process of picking out a cam for my 2020 Ultra Limited to do over the winter which will be the Zippers or S&S. My confusion is what to do about the head pipe, should I go with the Khrome Werks 2-2 and get rid of the cat or no? The second question is should we do the S&S oil pump and cam plate as long as it's open?

Did I miss the part about what exhaust you were running with these cams! I'm really digging the 22xe.

Im thinking the woods cams are always killing it in torque production... Im going with woods M8 222xe on my 2020 soft tail low rider s.

I think somewhere you should have noted that these dynos were done by the Mfrs with various air cleaners intakes exhaust systems tuners & dynos. So these comparisons are only moderately apples to apples. The setup specifics need to be sought out & considered for use in decision making with regards to a consumers bike. Also aftermarket cams & tuners on a new bike voids warranty. It is something to be considered. I likely will upgrade to aftermarket parts eventually so I am actually pro aftermarket. But for now the SE breather, SE tuner, SE-498 cam, etc allowed my 114 to make 116 HP 116 TQ which is performance competitive here AND retained full factory warranty. Plus since it was bought within 60 days of bike purchase it got MoCo’s 20 percent off discount making it price competitive as well. We pay for that warranty as part of a new bike purchase. I see no sense in letting MoCo off the hook unless there is no better way to get what I want.

I’ll take the Woods XE ! 👍👍🔥

22XE, 2 into one pipe and an aftermarket tube put me at 120/120 off a M8 114 Insane how much a stage two can give you with this engine.

Great video ! What cam do you recommend for that nice lopey sound, that's all I'm after lol

I'm not sure if you realize it or not but it's not so much the difference in displacement on the 114 but the fact that it's a longer stroke which should produce more torque

TTS-175 in a 114 is showing some great curves and numbers. In my opinion it’s better than all of these cams.

Hi buddy from Australia here, I really enjoy all your vids. I recently bought a 2021 street bob. Went with V&H big radius 2 into 2 pipes love them. Now considering a stage 2. do you have any info on the wood performance WM 8 22 XD that you can share. I think it will have less performance out put than the XE but reckon it might get a great sound from my M8 Cheers rock on buddy

Do a 117 please!