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Sr Sr Wilson

Midira

sr sr wilson nao e possivel

oh my motafuca god its you sr sr wilson imposibriu!!!

just get the USA verison

TheSmashWiz Do you have any idea how expensive importing something like that can be?

no

MrLuizilla yarrr.

+MrLuizilla Wait, didn't know about that! Shit!

+B. L. Braga You're danm Right my friend =D

And Steam is still going strong.

Steam’s ui is the equivalent to the ios ui

+Pedro Franca Tecnicamente o Sega Genesis ainda é fabricado na Zona Franca de Manaus, assim como o Mega Drive, mas boa sorte arranjando um desses...

***** I think it's beacuse it's hard to type with accent marks in some keyboards, you have to do atl+ some random number on the number pad.. PS: I'm answering in English because then, people can understand what is going on

+Pedro Franca Aqui em adamantina SP dá pra comprar em qualquer lugar, hmm até na pernambucanas tem

+Victor Yoshio Mas é aquele modelo da Tectoy, com os jogos na memória e sem entrada para cartuchos, certo? Now in English: But that is the model made by Tectoy, with games stored in memory and lacking the cartridge slot, right?

Yet I still can't buy AAA games on steam outside of crazy summer sales because even though they cost 60 dollars, that's around 200 reais and our income is so low. That said, I think console games on the PS3 era used to cost around 300 bucks on retail iirc so it's definitely progress. We still have a long way to go..

do i care? que projeto eh esse? estou interessado

5 - 6 dollars rn

+Fernie Canto Dude. Calm down. Brazil itself is bullshit. I do have to admit that my information might be a little old. Initially it was included in the gambling "category" but I haven't checked in any recent information on the status in the past few years. These changes you mention (which I don't doubt) are very recent stuff. Though if you look up you will see that what I said about gambling is true. They base that allegation on a really old law about gambling and for that reason, even fire weapons are cheaper than games! "Did You Know Gaming" even mentioned that a while back and I believe I have read a detailed article about it a couple years ago on Gizmodo or TechMundo. Aside from that you should also find info on that on tech websites, news and other reliable sources. I don't know if they FINALLY changed that ever since I learned about all that nonsense. Although you are right about the government and industry being slow and afraid of risks/changes, it can't be denied that, at least on the government's part, they have little to no intention on rushing any change that may result in lower taxes/prices for the consumer. After all, that would mean less money in their wallets and underwear. Ugh... Brazil is such a complicated country but one thing I tell ya... Things in that area in Brazil will only change IF the (international) pressure on the government is unbearable for them. They won't bother otherwise. Just look at all the things the country/people is in need of, as an example. Pressure to make them change things for the better have always been there. They simply don't give a damn. Just raise more taxes with the claim that's just so they can provide better conditions for the people but those "better conditions" never come. In the meantime we have spend more money with taxes than with food to keep ourselves alive while living conditions are deplorable, to say the least. Brazil will not change by itself. Not within at least the next 20 years. It would already have by now if they cared. Time is something we already had plenty of.

+Fernie Canto No, not really. I don't. I am aware of all that and yes, I do know things can and have changed. Heck, I lived through most of the things you just mentioned. I was born during the last dictatorship, I remember seeing in the news about Collor (even though I was really young at the time), I saw the birth of the Real, etc. My "problem" is not a "cultural problem" but rather being fed up with all the crap I have to deal with everyday. Yes, I know Brazil is not the only country with problems such as these and definitely not the worst in the world (hell, it could be a lot worse. It could be North Korea). But I won't pretend I have faith in it anymore or that things are ok just because it used to be worse over 20 years ago. Not that I don't want to believe things will improve more but I have just reached a point in my life where I am just numb towards anything Brazil-related. I've reached a "f*ck it all" stage, I guess I could say. I know the government isn't the sole cause of it all but it is a huge part of the problem. That's why I focused on it. The industry is a big part but not as big as the government itself. Following your line of thought, one recent example I could mention on how some of these companies benefit from a market with little competitors is the war between Uber and taxi drivers as well as the mobile phone companies and WhatsApp. Not to mention the cable TV companies and Netflix. They complain about the new services to the government and demand them to be extra taxed and the people in power simply go and do it. It wouldn't happen the other way around, if the intention was to remove extra taxes. Not as quickly as they are imposed, at least. Regardless of what the companies want or not, the government is the one with real power. If they want something they will just do it and companies will have to cope with it. Trust me when I say this. I don't have a cultural problem. I know about the strong points this country has. I am just numbed by all the BS around us. It's so much dread from all sides that it's not that I can't really see the good in this country. It's just that the problems overshadow the good. I REALLY want to believe in Brazil but I just can't. Not anymore. I am tired, I am done. Besides, it does not help to look at the good things that we have and the things that changed for the better when there is so much wrong out there to be corrected. Just think/see the strong points will not do when the bow of the ship is sunk into an ocean of problems. It is now that we either pump the water out or abandon the vessel before it finishes sinking with us on board.

+Fernie Canto +Mike Dragon Só pra ver se eu entendi: Vocês são dois brasileiros, discutindo política econômica brasileira em inglês? Realmente aprecio o objetivo de possibilitar uma discussão internacionalizada sobre os temas(é legal mesmo!!!), mas ficou estranho... Forgive the BS.

Kira Karsh Correto! :)

+Mike Dragon Good lord that's stupid... if they didn't try to take such a huge chunk out of the industry before it gets off the ground... it'd get off the ground and make them actual money they could tax... ~_~

Now that you mentioned it... But we do now, I think it was released last year.

We Have Amazon... but not for too long if we don't protect her

+Caê Almeida Eu odeio isso, essas coisas de carnaval acontecem uma vez por ano e se perguntar pra qualquer gringo o que o brasil é, ele responde: "futebol e carnaval"

+LoginDefault Yep

+Caê Almeida Well it´s the same with Germany always beeing represented by bavarians on the "Oktoberfest" it´s not really accurate, but you have to accept it ^^

acho engraçado quando um brasileiro fica puto com os esteriótipos que os gringos tem nosso. Porém, nunca param para pensar quanto esteriótipos nós mesmos temos de outras nações do 3º mundo. Pare e pense, o q lhe vem na cabeça quando tu pensas na Índia? Etiópia? Iraque? Enfim... Aposto q tu tem o mesmo pensamento preconceituoso no qual tu ta reclamando que os gringos tem nosso ;)

Pasa en todos los paises. Nadie se da cuenta de que mira a los demás a través de prejuicios, porque estos están naturalizados. Sin embargo es fácil ver como los estereotipos de los demás no reflejan la propia cultura, porque es lo que conocemos bien.

+Lênon Kramer Yeah the "underdog" or "sindrome do vira-lata" is not easy to overcome, it has been in our culture for way too long

I'm a brazilian, and I still prefer to buy something "Made In Brazil" than "Made in China"! haha

Síndrome do Vira-lata é uma tradução meio forçada. Seria mais para "Síndrome de Lanterninha". Quanto a diferença entre underdog e straydog...

A palavra que vocês estão procurando é 'mongrel'. O nosso termo em inglês seria "Mongrel Complex"

Vinicius Queiroz patriotismo inútil, por que preferir algo de qualidade inferior feito aqui? Nego fica com esse nacionalismo imbecil de chamar fatos de síndrome do sei la oq, encare os fatos, negócio é sonegar pra fazer algo de qualidade

Who does the government respond to? (in any country?) The people. Gather enough of them to want a change and it will happen. Luckily you can do this without the superrich buying out the govnerment. (And corporations would be on your side as well since they could make huge profits from your huge market)

***** the only problem is...the people don't care,i would say only 10% to 15% actually think about it,the corruption levels on Brazil are giant,making the taxes go all to the politicians,but the people don't care,most see ALL politicians as evil persons that only want to steal (that may be far from the truth),no one (outside the 10 to 15 area) do research before voting,and that is making us sink on taxes and low payments,but people don't care,because they have everything they on the TV

Even the market and capitalism here are broken because of the size of the State and it's taxes and regulations. The PS4 for instance, costs BR$4000... equivalent to US$1800 or something... and the PS3 is only now reaching the US$400 mark (all this in a country with a minimum wage of US$300 or so). Our problems with videogame and entertanement prices will not be touched until our problems with the government are tackled. And like Matheus said, the general population isn't helping one bit.

***** I honestly gave up on hope in Brazil when millions of people went on the street saying it was not really about 0,20 cents, and in the next year finding out it really wasn't since the government added about 0,15 + and everybody went along with it.

its true :Y (i live in brazil to)

Genial sabero. Notaba que en aAgentina de a poco va creciendo la escena. Se olvidaron de mencionar igual que en america latina los juegos tienen precios mucho menores (al igual que Rusia) en juegos de distribución digital (Steam por lo menos). Si no fuera por el recargo del 35%, sería de hecho muy barato comprar juegos de Steam acá.

Sip, faltan muchos datos sobre Argentina (y Chile, hay mucho movimiento en Chile). IIRC Creo que James anduvo por acá para una EVA hace un tiempo, pero la comunidad ha crecido mucho. Hay cosas interesantes. Lamentablemente el gobierno termina poniendo trabas; como siempre. donwebblog.com/2012/01/eva-2011-made-in-argentina/ Si, estuvo en el 2011. Creo que ese fue el mismo año que hablé con el tipo de Origin. Las cosas han crecido mucho desde entonces. (y)

Nuuvem? You guys Inuit or something, with those double U’s?

+Ridley i'd say fuck copyright then, and move to better financing options. let people pay for the game experience they have experienced, rather then for the "right" to play the game. so they can make a informed assesment what hte game is worth for them. also crowdfundung for the other side of the economic spectrum. and hell, maybe that's a way to get around these absurd taxes..

sofias. orange What you've said really sounds pretty good and perfect, however... People aren't as honest and honored as they could be. Hell, how many people do you know that have bought winrar's license? Yet almost everyone use it almost daily. It really could be good, if people were willing to actually spend money. But it won't work, SPECIALLY in a country like Brazil, one of the most dishonest and dishonored countries in the world. I really think your idea would be great, in a world where people are honest...

heh, people still use winrar? i really thought 7-zip (and a few other open source alternatives) replaced it by now. :D and when people aren't willing to spend money, copyright doesn't help either. at most it prevents people from having fun.. but when they start supporting the game creators as as directly as possible, they may have positive feedback. especially for a niche project it is quite possible that ones contribution to be a significant part of making a game possible, this should be way more motivation than having a game you otherwise would also have. (and a small portion of the price also going to the game creator). i don't really know brazil, (except the movie, hehe :P ) but with taxes like theye, i would be even less motivated to buy games then here in germany. ^^

k

:D

Lojas Americanas

***** Nossa tô indo lá agora...

+MrLuizilla Qualquer CASA & VÍDEO, e se não achar o Mega Drive em si, ainda acha aquele Mega Drive portátil

Agora que a tectoy relançou o original isso tá num novo nível

Mano, eu não achei mega drive mas eu achei super Nintendo no meu shopping local (sou de santa maria Rio Grande do sul)

How so?

Indeed, taxes dropped from 40% to 30% in consoles. The problem is that 1 USD evaluated to 1.80 BRL in the date the video was posted. Now, 1 USD evaluates 5.00 BRL. Consoles got more expensive. Not the same for digital media.

It's so true, I almost feel bad about sometimes, the only positive income we get from chasing the dream is that we wouldn't be happy doing otherwise.

(i live in brazil btw) and games are still pirated (but manly in lower class areas where people cant afford games legally)

***** from what i know, yes, but i dont usually see them, but when i do they are for newer PCs, but i dont have a good price range

***** They are fucking hard to find in regular stores. Thankfully there are plenty of computer specialized stores where you can buy them, but those aren't ussually cheaper than if you asked them to build a computer for you, so you'll have to buy them online. Sadly some folks still buy those pirated pieces of shit thought IT IS THE FUCKING DUMBEST THING YOU COULD DO, and you can buy 1 yo AAA games on steam for 9, 15, 25 reais, when the fucking torrent on a disk costs 10 reais. You can literally get a better price for a AAA game + the benefit of actually owning it on a steam sale. Those stores have no right to sell those thing, be it movies, cds or games and are making tons of money out of uninformed people. Thankfully, like I said, they became a small, though considerable, amount of the sales of media here. Now I can say that brazilians actually buy their games.

Otávio Oliveira Bopp That is just not true, some games at steam still costs R$100,00 or more, so buying it for R$15,00 isn't such a bad idea, but yeah, a lot of games are coming with affordable price tags now, but some are still ridiculous. I am from Brazil Btw.

+steamnamebbderinvade 1246 There are indie companies, if that is what you mean, but it's rare to see video games from Brazil (Even here), And yes EC is right, the PS4 for example was to be priced R$4.000,00 and the peliticians only changed after many people conplained (At launch it was priced at R$3.200,00, I think, still a lot, but more affordable). But (as EC said) I do believe they will start to talk about it once they realise the potential of gaming as an entertainment media. Sorry for my poor grammar.

Its kinda like this, i have never seen a PS2 original game All my life.

Fucking neh?

. CastorErotico . launch day cash grab, iphone 6 is R$3600,00

YEAH, AND THE PS5 WILL BE 50000$ IF IT CONTINUES LIKE THIS!

A Mac is RS 12,000

yup welcome to economic freefall

Well now it is

most would be like US games our entertainment culture is very based off the culture of the US(mainly because we rarely do make our own entertainment) some new ideas and maybe new genres might spawn from south america but it would take quite some time for that to happen and even more time for those new genres to gain footing in the market and become viable and profitable

The Speaker That's a bit too bad, I was hoping seeing how vibrant and vivacious the culture in South and Central American countries are, I thought some pretty interesting games could come through them. I once remember seeing a screenshot from a South or Central American game and I could see from the art style that it was heavily based off of South/Central American tribal art, like that of the Aztecs or Mayans. I thought it was really cool looking considering its different style and appearance from that of other games- I think its just the edge of what's possible from South/Central American developers.

JITTERdUdEepic it is very possible and i believe that given time it will happen but as i said culture around here is heavily influenced by north american culture(and by north american we both know i mean US only) specially entertainment

there is a independent game called "lenda do heroi" coming in jan 2016, and it will come out in portuguese and english, try buying it! www.catarse.me/pt/alendadoheroi

Eragonyoung Sounds interesting, will try to keep track with the game's development! Its cool to see foreign, especially South American games during their creation.

MilesFan100 but when they do is Brasilian portuguese, not Portugal's portuguese. Really. Even Google translate will translate to words that are only used in Brazil.

You don't know about Xbox Live Arcade. EVERY single one of my titles are either PT-PT or EN. None of them are in PT-BR. Actually, mainstream games are the only ones to get proper (sometimes not quite) translations, you probably only play the mainstream games.

I didn't know that! Somehow the games I want to play are never in Portuguese.

Really? Because I'm brazillian and I got a game from Amazon not too long ago. I mean, it cost me an arm and a leg, but I still got it.

How'd you do that? They don't ship here.

halafradrimx I just ordered it from their site? I didn't do anything special. I just ordered my game and spent an arm and a leg for it and it got here in about a week.

halafradrimx You can't buy electronics, but a lot of stuff you can import.

Sacchi Hikaru eu acho que eles não enviam qualquer jogo não, só alguns... não tenho certeza. e custa sua alma, como vc sabe

hugo votan that is true, that's why my family and I moved to the United States

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AEEE CARALHO!

AE CUSÃO

Bora mete para fuuudeeeh porra

PLEASE COME TO BRAZIL

mas o norte tem menos potencial pra fazer um jogo, tipo o que pode acontecer é um jogo feito no sul baseado em cultura do norte | but the north has less resources to make a game, probaly we will get a game made in the south based in culture from the north

greninja02 pois é, tem isso, mas veja bem, você é do sul? se sim, você sabe e faz parte da cultura que odeia a própria cultura, eu nunca conheci um curitibano que gostasse do Brasil

ODoutorZer0 sou gaúcho e ninguém que eu conheco gosta muito da cultura do meu estado, a maior parte das crianças tem mais medo do jason do que algum monstro da cultura brasileira (se é que tem medo, a cuca sempre foi meio tosca)

greninja02 auehuaheuahueauehauhuae verdade

Fernando C é cara, pra falar a verdade, nem eu mesmo sou muito fã da minha própria cultura, nunca gostei muito do resto do país, pra mim, mesmo curitiba perdendo uma identidade própria pra ser chamada de rússia, eu gosto de ser a rússia brasileira, e odeio o resto do país, muito orgulho da própria cultura(como no rio) é chato, muuuuuito chato