Illegal Super Bike | So Fast It Was Banned!

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Have we finally found the first carbon fibre monocoque UCI-banned superbike which can topple the time of a modern road bike? The Hotta has Tour de France Prologue Victories and Olympic Medals to its name and we've got not just one, but two of these very special machines to pit against a brand-new Canyon Aeroad. But there's a twist, one of the Hotta's is kitted out in full retro-guise, but the other, is a modern take, assembled with cutting-edge components to blend the two worlds into one. Could this create the ultimate mix of modern efficiency with old-school aerodynamic madness? There's only one way to find out!
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0:22 - The Retro Bikes We've Ridden So Far
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@gcn Ай бұрын

Have you ever wanted to kit out a retro bike with modern components? What would you choose?

@___Bebo___ Ай бұрын

I'd like an old purple Panasonic road frame with Campag down shifters and groupset. Haven't gotten around to building it, don't really have a good use for it.

@truthseeker8483 Ай бұрын

I did.....modern drive trains are a game changer..as are modern tyres and sealed bearings. What brand is the Carbon fork on the retro Hotta?? Is it 1 inch?

@zevrobins905 Ай бұрын

i have a absolute fantastique tokerr u-district single speed built built but the now-defunct seattle bike company. it has a flip-flop hub and i spin-out at around 48.25km p/h (30mph). i am 100% torn between restoring this cool old-bike with lightweight, modern parts, or buying a new fixed-gear and upgrading the heck out of it.

@___Bebo___ Ай бұрын

@@zevrobins905 Just get a Wabi bro, the Reynolds 725 steel for 450 bucks is a no brainer. That bike is either Hi Ten steel or non butted CroMoly which is basically the same thing, it for sure has a Hi Ten Fork. The Wabi feels like a race bike from the 1980s, but even lighter and more stiff in the seatstays.

@DavidCasebeer-wf8by Ай бұрын

I have done this. I took my 1977 Mercian Professional (185k miles) had Mercian rejig for 11/12 from the original 125mm. Outfitted with Record 11 and Eurus wheels. Dropped 1.8 kilos to 9.8 for the bike. What did I feel, better shifting and that's about it. Still smooth and stiff and fast. But I am 69 rather than 22.

@ivordavies1828 Ай бұрын

I had one of the last Hotta TT's in 1999. It had Mavic Mektronic, Zipp carbon cranks and Hed 60mm Deep Wheels. All done in clearcoat so the carbon showed. It was not just a bike, it was a work of art as well. I miss that bike!

@JibbaJabber Ай бұрын

😢

@the318pop Ай бұрын

I had one of the Linda McCartney team bikes, super rare FIR trispoke and Hed disc. Why oh why did I sell it.

@gcn Ай бұрын

Ooo sounds like an epic machine 👌 Why did you get rid of it? 😢

@death2pc Ай бұрын

So. You tossed it for the constant next "latest, greatest". It's all the bike, nothing more. Focus on the bike only. ps: I just bought some "aero" chain lube and I can attest.... It IS faster. Really. I swear.

@user-iv9qj9yk7j 24 күн бұрын

As a physics major my freshman year of college in 1989 I designed a bike on paper which was based on an arch from the stem to the rear hub. Imagine my surprise when I learned someone actually built one! The Hotta is not simply a work of art, it is superior engineering to the Lotus. An arch will resist flexion and create strength - consider a Samurai sword. I had to have one, but could not afford it until they were banned. I used mine for triathlons, where they remained legal. I upgraded to a Reynolds Ouzo Pro solid carbon fork, which resolved the flexion issues. My wheels are the original Specialized Tri spokes, which still spin forever! I added Deda Bandito aerobars and AxLightness solid carbon seat.I eventually upgraded to SRAM Red for their carbon shifters, but my crankset remains the FSAcarbon Superlight ISIS. It is an absolute rocket!

@JibbaJabber Ай бұрын

'Bit of a speed wobble'😮 @10:20 Explains why Ollie didn't turn up - change of kit required!

@richardhutchings1980 Ай бұрын

Looked really scary didn't it?

@Shayzare Ай бұрын

I thought it wasn't gonna end well when it started to wobble wobble!! 😵‍😵‍

@pkeppler6249 Ай бұрын

Old frame with modern components and fit ideology 👍. Love it! More, please!

@Mainsail333 Ай бұрын

Might call it a Resto-Mod

@gcn Ай бұрын

That would go split opinions though! Should you keep it classic or change things up?

@arekb5951 Ай бұрын

@@gcn I mean, if it's YOUR bike, do whatever pleases YOU

@RyTrapp0 29 күн бұрын

@@gcn The automotive & motorcycle worlds will let you know when they've come to a conclusion on that question lol

@TheRJAD 28 күн бұрын

@@gcnI expected a detailed view on the GCN tech channnel of the “new” Hotta

@sportydavek1590 Ай бұрын

I still regret sellling my Metron TT bike. It was very similar to a Hotta but finished in bare varnished carbon and was simply beautiful.

@curtisducati Ай бұрын

I have seen a few of them come up on daft Ebay , last one was about a year ago , rare bike ..

@gcn Ай бұрын

We've all got one that got away! 🤣 Would you ever pick another up, or has that ship sailed?

@stephenmackay9762 Ай бұрын

A true work of art, I got mine with a 24k gold Olympic symbol just under the seat, the only one ever made. Sadly I do not take it out much as it turns too many heads, I do not think I have ever taken it out and not been stopped. Who else has this type of Metron bike?

@sportydavek1590 Ай бұрын

@gcn - that ship has sailed. The reality is that it always looked better than it rode. The rear brake never worked. It was tricky in cross winds (I remember the rear wheel lifting off the ground in a strong gust once) and it wasn't that light or stiff. The pros were that it made the perfect TT bike noise, especially with a disc wheel and looked amazing.

@lordraiden5398 Ай бұрын

Love seeing these old carbon bikes from my youth. The best bike I have ever owned was in my mid 20's. Polished clear coated Vitus 979 aluminum. It had a Shimano 105 group set with a beautiful perforated leather, titanium rail Selle Italia Flite seat. Loved that bike. Nothing I have had since compares. Would love to build one with a modern groupset and wider tires. Oh and a waxed chain 😊

@bwri9081 Ай бұрын

I agree. My Vitus 979 (dark blue) circa 1989 was the most comfortable bike I have ridden. I built mine with Shimano 600 (Ultegra for those not as long in the tooth as I am). Funny, now companies are trying to get away from super stiff carbon and trying to make it "compliant". Vitus had this figured out in the late 70's and 80's.

@bmwflyfisher Ай бұрын

Not a TT bike fan, but…Wow, the new component Hotta is HOT. The look of that thing is great. All of these remind me of the Trek Y mountain bike…Much later, but it was beautiful.

@lolly166541 Ай бұрын

It's exactly what the frame needed! Like holy wet bananas, I can imagine that that's what they've had fantasized about 30 years ago.

@gcn Ай бұрын

Hahaha you know a bike is hot when a non TT fan likes it 🔥

@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын

If someone made a homage I'd probably get in line with all the other suckers 😂

@seraph4581 Ай бұрын

Really great to have modern components on the frame for the later run. In most of these videos the limiting factors on older bikes are tires and gears. Please do these more often!

@rogerbarr6988 Ай бұрын

How about Graham Obree interview and bike review !!!

@secretsquirrel3793 Ай бұрын

Oh yes please. I really hope that Mr O has more wild ideas up his sleeve. Loved his Beastie!

@PaulJohnson-tl9ph Ай бұрын

You guys are so entertaining, thanks keep it up!!! 🤣👍

@nustylehair8495 Ай бұрын

Chapeau GCN thank you for video celebrating the engineering genius of Simon ASKE. The Campagola TT rear wheel on the Hokka is my Dad’s; Ken Dean, from his time trial bike from the late 80’s.I have the pleasure today of riding a ASKE steel bike…..well deserved recognition indeed for Simon.

@EMC2Scotia Ай бұрын

I remember seeing these Hotta bikes in Cycling Weekly, and those RTTC TT's. Great throwback video, I would suggest that Litespeed bike from this era that was a V shape for the next installment in this series

@sergioleon4771 Ай бұрын

I love your videos guys, so entertaining and I learn a lot from bikes, they motivate me to keep on riding! 🚲

@halnorwood6978 Ай бұрын

Simon Aske who designed the bike and owns it, now makes brilliant steel frames. Love mine!

@letsgetdoing Ай бұрын

Just looked him up, his work is sick. Thanks!

@snorttroll4379 3 күн бұрын

they look like normal bicycles. is the key that you get something in your specific size? or does he do magic with tube thickness and shape?

@halnorwood6978 2 күн бұрын

@@snorttroll4379 uses Reynolds tubing. Does a bike fit and builds to you and your requirements for the bike.

@johnellis6944 Ай бұрын

Hotta gave me one for a year in 97 or maybe 98 for racing Tri's. Terrifying in a cross wind but it was a rocket ship - I always felt that if i had better legs it would go faster - never found the point where i felt it was at its speed / aero limit. It just felt like it could always go faster. The tech for the time was incredible and that carbon fork had a titanium steerer tube. I do miss that bike. Thank you for doing this - awesome work and it's bringing back some cool memories.

@DJDUBED Ай бұрын

I have 2 of these and a lotus 110, i love my hotta thats set up for track! Still great to ride nowadays

@gcn Ай бұрын

Wow that is awesome! Which one do prefer to ride? Hotta or a 110?

@markjthomson Ай бұрын

Gentlemen... 30 years old is a CLASSIC, not an antique... and in learning that, I feel that also answers the question about yourselves! Stop selling yourselves short! Great vid.

@gcn Ай бұрын

Retro maybe? 🤣

@n22pdf Ай бұрын

This is brilliant guys lovely to see this bike and a version with updated components excellent 😊 please do more of these type vids dudes❤ Pete 🚴🏻👍

@gcn Ай бұрын

Thanks Pete! Any other bikes we should check out? 👀

@n22pdf Ай бұрын

@@gcn How about Giant MCR vs Hotta ? although they are very similar..

@ryangreenhow Ай бұрын

Every time I hear "Canyon Aero" I immediately think of the Simpson's Canyonero jingle. :P

@larrylem3582 Ай бұрын

She blinds everybody with her super high beams, She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!

@jefffarmer9200 Ай бұрын

Beautiful bike. I really dislike the way the UCI does its best to stop innovation of bicycles.

@CoreyDavey-hf8wb Ай бұрын

Lovely to see you guys filming down in teign valley, be great to see you guys do more videos down this neck of the woods.

@simonharris5414 Ай бұрын

Awesome video. I used to drive Simon Aske and Colin Lewis crazy as a Kid drinking all their tea in the shop. Always remember that bike on the wall in the old Paignton shop. I think I was loaned that Spinergy wheel for a RTC Nationals back when I was a JR. It's typical of Simon that he never boasted of the fact that he was such a skilled engineer. I was lucky to have him as my mechanic. I am currently rebuilding my dads old bike which we got from Simon.

@gcn Ай бұрын

The bike world is full of these silent cycling geniuses 🙌 Did you ever get to swing your leg over the Hotta? 🔥

@MrRNoble9 Ай бұрын

@@gcn And its worth a shout out to Angus Noble who founded Carbon Design and helped make it a reality. I'm biased as his son of course. We both love the GCN show! I still have the original with the single rear stay and used to cycle it around Bristol.

@l.d.t.6327 Ай бұрын

I have a ghibli wheel. You won't notice much difference with the modern disc wheel: just glue a 25mm modern tubular on it. Most of the technical gains are obviously in the tires / tubulars used: you probably just went slower in the curves and that doesn't have much to do with the wattage.

@jed1mstr Ай бұрын

I never get tired of Si's Bovine Phobia

@gcn Ай бұрын

We're not sure Si feels the same! He things it's udderly ridiculous that we keep milking the joke 😉

@davidellis578 Ай бұрын

I believe the main difference in the handling is due to the fork. I had purchased a Hotta fork for my TT bike many years ago and it was a thing if beauty, but riding on northern Ontario road, destroyed by constant frost heave, resulted in some tense moments with fork flex, so I reverted back to the Columbus steel fork. However, Clara Hughes, one of my idols, brought home to Canada a bronze at the Atlanta Olympics.

@adadinthelifeofacyclist Ай бұрын

I believe the original riding position would've been designed to be riden sat right forward (on the saddle and on the, um... no-man's-land-bit) with a flat lower back, not arched round like in the GCN modern set up

@kithinders1086 Ай бұрын

I love these comparison videos, keep them coming. Ventum's new One (?) has the same shape as the Hotta, you guys reckon you can get your ones on one of those? Maybe the GTN folks have already tested it and I'm missing that. Bring it to GCN!!! (you chum (retro/relics or not) make a lovely presenting duo as well)

@brockjennings Ай бұрын

I had a pair of Spinergy Rev-X wheels. Installing the available X-brace between the spokes made a big difference in reducing flex.

@veloman59 Ай бұрын

Great film guys. I think I'd go for the Hotta. Mainly because I remember watching Richard Prebble winning the National 25 mile TT way back in 93 I think it was. It looked super cool then. Nice to see you use Ambrosio A8 forks on the modernised version too. I used to work for the company that produced them.

@davemoss6976 Ай бұрын

Interesting conclusion that the frame matters very little compared with achieving the best body position. it would be good to see how Graeme Obree's home made frame with modern wheels and components would compare. aero factors aside one of Graeme's key objectives was to bring the feet as close as possible, hence the washing machine bottom bracket bearing. I expect the narrow bottom bracket is also more aero as well as improved power transfer.

@mommamooney Ай бұрын

Si and Ollie are like kids in a toy shop. “Whoa, would you look at that!!!”

@gcn Ай бұрын

Both in their happy place for sure 🤣

@michellejohnstone6106 Ай бұрын

Great video brings back great memories of a bike that was so futuristic at the time. What saddlebag does Ollie have on his new Canyon?

@nwiniata4776 27 күн бұрын

I had a Hotta, - from 2003 to 2009. Black, A Road Fame - but set up as a Fixie. With Corima 4 Spoke Carbon Wheels, Campagnolo Record Pista Crank, Profile Integrated stem and 'Bullhorn' Handlebars, and a Modolo Kronos Front Brake. It really was a bike that got better & better the faster it went...

@rbonn3880 Ай бұрын

Fascinating video, gents! Mesmerized by the incredible design for the Hotta (though Ollie's Canyon is pretty sweet, too)...

@gcn Ай бұрын

Different horses for different courses 🙌 If you had to, which one are you taking home?

@ThePerks2010 Ай бұрын

I was eighteen when this came out, i was still getting excited about my first aluminium frame and alloys 😂 I'd have probably exploded at seeing this!

@edwardrissington3218 Ай бұрын

I also raced on 18mm tyres. For the racing season I would move from my training bike to my race bike and it was certainly twitchy at first but I would quickly get used to it.

@adamrudling1339 Ай бұрын

Beautiful modern upgrade, e stay frames have a special look for me.

@kennethgislum2073 Ай бұрын

I also remember the futuristic Pinarellos ridden by both Indurain, Riis and Ulrich - especially the one Bjarne Riis threw into the field in TDF.

@user-tm4iy8mv7c Ай бұрын

Such a beauty in deed. How about a BP Stealth? Or a BP2 Stealth? These run in the same group as the Hotta. So cool. I have a BP2. It’s mostly for my wall. I have used it in the 12 hour ultra world championships for just under an hour just to say I did. Since then it stays on the wall. Beautiful. Really nice program! Cheers!

@Chrisblottphoto Ай бұрын

Every Vid with Si is a good vid.

@mystoller Ай бұрын

I think I am going to be sick! After racing through the 90s and into the pro ranks in the 2000s, I ended up with a fair amount of bikes that usually either got returned to the team or ended up in my parent's garage. Somehow, in the late 90s I was given a prototype bike frame that was in need of some love. The frame was all black and said Infinity on it, it was cracked in two spots and it had a missing rear wheel, a special tri-spoke number that mounted to the one-sided rear end. I knew it was a special bike but since I was missing key parts and it was cracked I caved in to my Dad´s request to clear out some of my old bikes from his garage a few years ago and guess what found its way into the bin!! I knew I was going to regret it but after watching this and knowing the full story I am really bummed!

@colinricketts1415 Ай бұрын

Richard Prebble used to come to the club 10's near Cheltenham with a Hotta in the mid 90's, it looked amazing bike especially since most of us had steel road bikes with tri bars with an occasional low pro bike with a funny small front wheel .

@gcn Ай бұрын

How did the bike do up against the steel race machines? ⚙💨

@colinricketts1415 Ай бұрын

@@gcn any bike at that time with Richard on it would have been a fast bike! the sound that bike made (possibly the disc wheel, but somehow it was louder than other disks) was a 10 or 15 meter warning he was overtaking. Both him and the bike were in a different league

@QoraxAudio Ай бұрын

12:46 Oh gawd that brake squeal! 😂😂

@theoteddy9665 Ай бұрын

I saw that wobble imediately😂that was pantscrapping indeed😂

@user-li1vc2jz8g Ай бұрын

Great to see the Teign valley road on GCN.

@seal1mas Ай бұрын

Still got my Giant MCR, such a unique TT bike, but i've given it the modern updates!!

@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 Ай бұрын

Build up a that hotta bike with as close the same position as the canyon, same handlebars, wheels (if possible) same groupset, everything besides the frame. Then retest please.

@crusherbmx Ай бұрын

I was riding in 1993 and this bike WAS radical, but it wasn't alien or anything, it doesn't look any crazier than some of the 1984 Olympic bikes.

@AlistairLattimore Ай бұрын

Love seeing the old bike pimped out with new gear!

@gcn Ай бұрын

Always cool to see an old bike with new parts 😎

@edwardrissington3218 Ай бұрын

I had a Specialized Epic with carbon fiber tubes, aluminium joints and forks, with Shimano Ultegra components, MavicMA6 wheels bought in Banff Canada Dec 1993. It came with drop bars with drop ins(if you know what they were.). I raced triathlons on it, I just put some Profile airstryke tri bars on it.. The first time I actually raced it was Lanzarote Ironman 1994 after which I cut off the drop ins because they were dangerous. After a move to New Zealand in 2000 I still raced it till 2010 and was still beating most modern bikes.

@dkelly7159 Ай бұрын

I had one of those too. Amazing deep ruby red paint job. 👍

@chrisridesbicycles Ай бұрын

I love this series. Can Ollie ask his mate Fausto if he can borrow the tour 1997 Pinarello Parigina? Also, this should be taken beyond TT bikes. I'd love the see how an old steel bike with curved fork stacks up on cobbles.

@millicentawour9482 Ай бұрын

In need of your gcn 1 windbreaker, gained much from your coaching time to shine

@enigma335i Ай бұрын

my spinergy wheels had braces between the carbon spokes to provide stiffness that seem to be missing on these, not surprised they were flexing like crazy

@lunam7249 Ай бұрын

mine have aluminum blades under the inside of the carbon blades, 8 per wheel😳, nice

@amanahmed8322 Ай бұрын

Still have my 1998 Hotta and Spinergy wheels.

@rccc5806 Ай бұрын

Great show. Though, half in it, still no idea why it's so good. Maybe next time.

@codydabest 15 күн бұрын

I don't know anything about bikes except that I took my bro's Shwinn off a jump and landed on my shoulder and swore off anything other than a light sea-wall ride ever again. Great vid tho!

@user-rg5fp7ok3t Ай бұрын

The old spec machine is in effect just a snapshot, back in the last century most racing bikes evolved from week to week, month to month, very often the bike that ended the season only shared the frame and maybe wheels from the start. My '78 race bike changed paint every couple of years and went from all rounder to a pseudo low pro tt across its life. The 'new spec' Hotta is typical of that evolution, these days people change whole bikes, we used to change single parts, it was rare to find a race bike with one brand parts let alone a full groupset !

@stephenmackay9762 Ай бұрын

Metron, a true monocoque and an engineering marvel. As was mentioned in the video the HOTTA was made in parts and stuck together, I think they had issues splitting. The Metron on the other hand was made in one go (not stuck together).

@lanternmatt2002 Ай бұрын

hotta: it gets cooler from here

@TimR123 Ай бұрын

Sheez!, That “Speed wobble” at 8:00 was insane. 😱🙀 I’ve never seen a bike look so much like cooked noodles.

@gcn Ай бұрын

Imagine riding it 😬 Talk about compliance 🤣

@TimR123 Ай бұрын

@@gcn you know... that might make a good video. Maybe on the road with mounted cameras. Maybe a lab with some engineers? Show what is really going on with bikes as we roll down the road. Most of us can't visualize what is happening in 'compliance' and 'stiffness' The parts ARE moving and distorting. (Most not as insanely as in this video) and it might be interesting to see it.

@JibbaJabber Ай бұрын

@16:14 Si, don't lie! You love the 'modern' Hotta because it comes in the GCN colourway. Just needs a few of these at back to finish the paint job 🔥🔥🔥🔥 #Hot

@steveherring8494 Ай бұрын

ollie, i know these bikes you guys are riding pretty nice. personally i think my TTbike is so much cooler. my bike is not really ready to ride. i disassemble mine in my move to AZ and just haven't put it back together yet. i think you helped me by telling me i need to have a pro set it up for me. i got the frame built and i moved the frame to maryland and hung it on the wall. the rest of the components were just so expensive i couldn't afford all at once. i put campagnolo record groupo in it. it's nice and fast. it's also a bit on the heavy side. i was out riding one day looking for stuff for the kitchen. while riding home i needed to stop at the hardware store. i was passing cars like they were parked. i took the bike into the store with me. i had this young boy talking to his father. they were talking about this bike that just passed them on the road. ok i love to show this bike off to anybody that wants to listen. i turned around and went down on one knee. i was at the youngster height talking to him about my bike. his father kinda stayed out other than to listen. i asked the young boy if he wanted to sit on it. he did and his father had to pick the youngster up and sit him on the seat. oh boy was he excited. it's got the really small or thin tires, (18mm) I usually run over 100 psi in them so I feel every pebble on the road. I really wanted you to come see it. If I had know you were riding in Tucson. I would have put it in my truck and drove down there to see you and show you this bike.

@chrishophoto Ай бұрын

Interesting bike for sure! I did notice that the chain stays on the modern equipped Hotta look beefier. It would not surprise me if the layup was different as well. Most certainly the original fork combined with an old Spinergy wheel would be handful. Fun stuff!

@1ongava Ай бұрын

That fork as fast as it was, liked to fall apart and was flexi as. Shame

@princeedmunddukeofedinburg Ай бұрын

Stunning bikes

@gcn Ай бұрын

Absolute classics 👌

@wiseoldman5841 Ай бұрын

Looks like the 30 year old frame was clearly better with new components! So much for progress..lol

@crusherbmx Ай бұрын

Talking about the aggressive riding position, roadies were so macho back in the day, 20mm or smaller tires, 13-18 cassettes, 53/42 chainrings, bars slammed as low as they can go...toe clips....it was an initiation thing I guess, and coming from BMX, it was a challenge that I struggled to meet...and never really accomplished.

@Evaso_CC Ай бұрын

My dream bike back when I was at school. 😊

@leighdickinson8299 Ай бұрын

Brilliant Lads

@ihsanulkamil1999 Ай бұрын

BIKE LOOKS AWESOME ❤

@SY-ve5qm Ай бұрын

More comfortable means more speed! Antique ones are fascinating from technology history perspective but will not compete with modern. Anyway, good way to promote new bikes.

@karlnorgaard9447 Ай бұрын

As to Simon's comment, that the bladed fr wheel/ fork combo was flexy... I say, in the last few years, have we not all started riding wider, softer tires? We can always learn by revisiting the past. I have steel and carbon road bikes. I dont race or anything, but I often feel my old steel FUJI is as fast or faster than my Pinarello.

@billkallas1762 Ай бұрын

Love those Spinergy Rev-X wheels. I still have a pair, from the stone age. 19mm Conti Comps?

@stevezodiac491 Ай бұрын

so have I, they aren't very fast.

@NathanDelaney Ай бұрын

I miss spinergy wheels. Those were so great on my Stumpjumper with V brakes. I would definitely buy them with a disc brake verson, just so I never have to true my wheels.

@emil_black 13 күн бұрын

Omg!!! Where did Star Wars George Lucas come from at this 9:00 in the video?😂😂

@softpool1286 Ай бұрын

hotta was really cool looking. would have loved to see a modern tt bike comparison along with modern road bike

@gcn Ай бұрын

Watch this space 👀 Maybe turn those notifications on too 😉

@simonlbenson Ай бұрын

Ooooooh I see height you were going to come of when you got that speed wobble 😂

@bikeanddogtrips Ай бұрын

tech question idea about something i thought about several years ago and this bike prompted me as a suitable candidate. so you know how golf balls have dimples on them to improve aerodynamics? so how about very think stick on transfer patches over key areas of bikes with dimples (kind of like bubble wrap but more high tech). it would be interesting to see how much of a marginal gain this could make . how much of a difference in aerodynamics would be made when comparing the height to the position of the raised bits and would it become enough of a specialised subject to vary the height and spread of the raised bits according to the bike geometry? Benefit of stick on transfers means that they can easily be removed too if the uci does the usual.

@peterleffler2062 Ай бұрын

At last. The old bike with the new build. I'm with Si. If go for drop bars and all the other modern kit. You might have a bit of a chimney under the bars but it would still be super cool. I'd look ridiculous on it but the bike would be cool.😂

@pittviper6320 Ай бұрын

The flex on that front wheel! 😮🤦🏼‍♂️

@gcn Ай бұрын

Scary right! Did you catch Alex trying these wheels out over on GCN Tech 👉kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irmXnKV1u8qXo2w.html

@krehme Ай бұрын

I would take the Lotus, I guess just because I have fond memories of it. A friend let me borrow his for a TT. The Lotus was a blast… so smooth.

@DJDUBED Ай бұрын

I own both, love the hotta as Day to day bike a bit more

@cryptobond0079 Ай бұрын

Yes we use BananaWax Drag & Friction Reduction Professional Race Chain Wax.

@BikesKomsCRO Ай бұрын

298w and 301w is okay to compare.. But 311 watts is different.

@luukrutten1295 Ай бұрын

Its a good thing when a bike makes you push the pedals harder! Si just couldnt contain himself.

@CarmineEspositoIT Ай бұрын

Would love to see you guys test the CAT Cheetah bike

@sosci8888 Ай бұрын

Nice one - I've an nearly 25 years old C4 Joker with also Spinergys and it's also an really fast bike. But you can't ride it on any UCI ruled events.

@cyclingnut2122 Ай бұрын

Ohhhh I really wanted one of these when they came out

@gcn Ай бұрын

Do you still wan't one? 👀

@codytestroet3774 Ай бұрын

That track stand though

@fuzzyfella 27 күн бұрын

Hotta every day of the week... I am lucky to have a custom steel monster cross bike made by Simon Aske. It is brilliant and I would recommend anyone to get one of his bikes.

@Norm0770 Ай бұрын

I went back to watch the Ullrich TT bike episode and Ollie was 30 seconds quicker than on the modern aero road bike at the same power and Si was exactly the same speed. It would be interesting to the see the Walser TT bike with modern position vs a modern TT bike.

@dervakommtvonhinten517 Ай бұрын

that saddle looks nutcrushing

@JollyGiant0 Ай бұрын

Loved this test, well done chaps. But..... You should have also tested Oli's Speedmax too, to see the difference there!

@gcn Ай бұрын

Next time maybe 😉

@simonstucki Ай бұрын

very interesting! So can we conclude, that bikes nowadays would be a lot faster if it weren't for the UCI limiting frame design? It seems that the only thing that improved was everything else than the frame. Imagine doing that experiment the other way around, putting the old forks, wheels, drivetrain on the canyon and also slam the position to match the Hotta, that would probably be a terrible bike.

@overcookit1433 Ай бұрын

The modern set-up Hotta is definitely awesome - on my TT bike based on a Giant Cadex CFR I also tried last year to turn up the aero clip-on bar to get the praying mantis-position, but by doing so, the handling became really shaky, so I had to switch back to the straight-forward position (like on the oldschool Hotta); that is how I ride each day! As I am very used to that position (this year I ride for nearly 20 years in that extreme position), I am sure I would be far slower on that modern Caynon road bike. #askgcntech : I have been searching the whole net, but I could not find one site which said what the weight of the bike (especially the frame) is. By the way: what tyre pressure did you use for the narrow tyres? I use 7 bar for the 20mm front tyre and 6 bar for the 23mm rear tyre (body weight 63kg at 177cm).

@joshuajosephs5562 Ай бұрын

Yet whats amazing is that Greg Lemond still owns the fastest time trial over any longer distance at TdF 30+ years later.

@dkelly7159 Ай бұрын

Also Boardman still has the fastest Prologue time on an "antique" bike with a low position. So this video is basically nonsense but it keeps the sponsors happy 😂

@audiodoctor100 Ай бұрын

I have a question, are gears always faster? I ride the groups at regents who keep a pretty good pace, I don’t think there’s much gear changes going on but I always keep up. I ride a fixed and always wonder how much better do gears make you? (I’m quick but I’m not as good all the guys there but I try my hardest)

@9psi Ай бұрын

Next you can try the rmit superbike (which may have become BT??) Was good to see the updated components. Much better comparison

@toddlong2785 Ай бұрын

I'd like to see you test a Softride Power V with a rear disc wheel and aero bars set with a wider arm setting. The wider width would channel the air downward and act as a sail off the disc wheel. Check it out.