For those of you technicians out there getting confused by the instructions in the service procedures-cleanliness and pay attention to detail! I'm gonna put this out there right now and I'm not trying to be harsh or critical for anyone who's taken this job on who is not in the professional automotive industry. 1. This job is not something that you will enjoy on the floor in your home garage; especially if it's AWD 2. I'm not making a step-by-step how to do everything, why? Because that's too time consuming and I think it is critical larger engine work like this is done by a trained, experienced, and well rounded technician. Too many chances for creating more problems if you are not experienced. 3. I will answer questions, but it's difficult for me to walk you through everything...this channel was designed and geared towards those who work on cars professionally...this procedure is not the difficult part of this job, TRUST ME. 4. GM (ACDELCO) PARTS ONLY!!! Replace all components, not some...ALL of it gets done or you're just wasting your time and will be in there again!!! Always replace the valve covers if heavy deposits! No shortcuts guy's...you do it right or like I said...you'll be doing it again! 5. Clean these engines from top to bottom using brake cleaner. Blow everything out thoroughly to include oil passages with compressed air. Clean valves using carb cleaner and compressed air. Be sure you get the inside of your oil pan too...if she's a disaster when you open her up...remove the oil pan to ensure you get it cleaned out. You're not going to hurt the engine doing this as long as you change the oil twice after you button her up. The rest will evaporate and burn out through PCV...Done hundreds of them this way and they are solid afterwards! The other thing that other video's are failing to tell you is those phasers/actuators should be replaced everytime you do a chain job, you're just shooting yourself in the foot if you don't! Also, the Intake PHASERS/ACTUATORS are different from one another from bank to bank, they're clocked different...also very important to know. However, the EXHAUST PHASERS/ACTUATORS are interchangable. Use only OEM ACDelco parts, stay away from aftermarket trash, PERIOD! If you want to try and accomplish this without doing it in two stages as some will claim is easier or possible with specific tools...well have fun, because you'll be hating life going in a second time. I am merely prewarning you...take it or leave it. YOU DO NOT NEED SPECIAL CAM HOLDING TOOLS FOR THIS JOB!!! Many people screw this job up, because they're trying to take shortcuts-pure and simple! If you can't time this engine IAW Service Information then it's definitely beyond your skill level in numerous ways, not trying to be critical, but it's common sense. GM says this is how you time it; so why are we even debating whether or not it can be done another way. Everyone that's having trouble with it is NOT FOLLOWING PROCEEDURES, GEEEEE...I WONDER WHY 🤔? Yes there's TSB's out there for the CKP reluctor wheel actually shifting and causing CMP/CKP correlation DTC's and the best way to rule that out is to physically check for this by removing the oil pan and measuring for it! I'll link a great page explaining how to do this below. If you're worried about that as a possibility it is only beneficial to remove oil pan regardless to clean out any deposits in the pan! www.autoserviceprofessional.com/4206/reluctor-wheel-woes Thanks for watching and I hope you find it helpful!

Thank you for sharing this. I have never had the chance to time one of these, there is a shop in my area , PRE CV19, that takes on all of these 3.6 jobs, they always have 1-2 of them going at the same time. The fact that you are taking the time to help and show others may give some shops more confidence on taking in these jobs. Keep up the good work!

By far one of the only videos that are clear straight to the point I love your style bro keep it up

Perfect video for reference while doing the job. Nice and quick and the important details are covered

Thank you Pauly. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week to you and your family.

The best video for 3.6 timing, thanks man ❤

Great video! I did mine back at the end of 2018. Wish I had this video at the time. There was plenty of info out there, and I didn't really have any trouble, but this video would have been a nice addition. I did mine with the engine in the vehicle. Really, it wasn't a horrible job once I got all the tools lined up. It's just really time-consuming doing it in the vehicle.

Just got tossed into one of these as an apprentice, thanks for the vid man

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Great video easy to follow

Excellent video man you went straight to it everything was well expanded i really appreciate that 👍. I'll definitely be looking for more of your videos.

Thanks for the video. Impressed at your speed. Looks like you may have worked at a GM garage at some point in a previous life..😉

Best one I’ve seen yet now I know I can do it in the car

Damn it! I wished I had found this video long ago and before the others. Great explanations!

Well you just saved me and engine in my CTS! Thanks bud great instructional vid and again thanks for the save lol

The best video for this I swear

Left head uses DOTS on the phasers, the right head uses ARROWS on the phasers. (just in case you didn't know this, Left and Right side of the engine is degermed by which side you would see if you were standing at the back of the motor looking forward. If you were standing on or behind the transmission looking towards the front of the motor, your left would be the left bank or head and your right would be the right bank or head.) Most "techs" would know this but the kids at the part store are NOT going to know this. People that knew that the left side of the car was the driver's side might get confused because the motors are often in sideways now. I've had many issues with getting wrong parts, like motor mounts...they'll go by front and rear sometimes or left and right on others. When the motor is sideways or "transverse" which side do THEY think is left or right? You might have to get in the habit of telling them "left is the radiator side, right is the firewall side". LOL It seems stupid and like something that shouldn't happen...but it does, often. I'm sure Pauly can attest to that. I wanted to put up a quick comment here Pauly. The 2011 Acaidia that I did the timing on broke the chain on the right, phase two side of the timing. I thing the wear pad on the tensioner guide came off, caused an interference and the chain just snapped. FORTUNATELY....the cams were as such that no valves hit. I know it sounds like a one in a million thing but first I checked it with one of those inspection cameras on a stick thing and then I did a leak down test. To my shock and pleasant surprise, I had nearly perfect pressure. I'm about to put the new timing set on, we sent the old stuff back to see if Cloyes would warrantee it. I'm not holding my breath. But in the mean time we bought a new set and I'm putting it on now. I didn't like how "chinsy" that one was. It's captured very well on one end but the other end is held by two rather small tabs. I thought they looked a bit weak and I'm guessing the one I thought looked rather weak is the one that broke and bound up the whole system. That tab was broken off but I can't say for sure if it happened first and caused the failure or the chain broke for some other reason and that tab just got broke off in the process. I wanted to glue it or something because I didn't like how loose and crappy it looked. I'll be THOROUGHLY inspecting every piece of this kit. If something's questionable...it's going back. I don't care if the hoist is tied up an extra day or two...I'm not risking it this time. Just because it's the almighty Cloyes...doesn't mean you can't get a crappy piece! The issue I had was not catching that the left side head uses round dots on the phasers where the right side used triangles/diamonds/arrow/pointers. Call em what you want. LOL The trouble I was having when I couldn't get it to run and had it back apart not knowing what to do...I was going by the painted marks on the new phasers. The intake cam phaser for the left hand side head was incorrectly marked, the ARROWS were painted, and I didn't catch it. It's easy enough to do guys, this is a HUGE job and it's easy to think you can trust the dealership to have things correctly marked but you CAN'T! You have to check everything. EVERYTHING! Like Pauly says, the exhaust phasers are interchangeable so you have to pay attention to the DOT vs ARROW on them. Don't go by the paint on your phaser marks. Like I said the brand new one I got from the dealership with the "L" engraved on it had the triangle mark PAINTED. I never gave it a second thought and used it. It was marked wrong. I'm very lucky it didn't cause any damage but compression and leakdown tests verified that everything was fine. But I could have saved myself a TON of work and a ton of stress if I had just paid attention to this vid that says, CLEARLY, left head uses DOTS. The right hand head uses ARROWS. Thanks for your effort doing this vid Pauly!

Thanks for the advice much appreciated!

Really good explanation

This is the boat anchor cadillac uses.

I love your videos

can not get my front timing cover on do i have bolts in the place ???

Thanks for the details 👍🏻

Which way do you turn the motor over for the second part of the timing? Anti clockwise or clockwise to the second mark

Old video, i know. But what happens when if when spinning the crank from stage 1 to stage 2 during reassembly, the valve spring tensions causes the crank/chain to rotate past the 8'oclock mark on the oil pump?

I also have the cheap autozone ones they arent marked much.

thanks for your help

Excellent description! Are both upper chains the same length? Are all the makes on gears ? Do you drop the cradle to do the job or do it in the car? If the 3.6 I’d making noise do the chains rub on the cover or something else.

Thank God for you if it works on my aura 3.6 liter

So if you roll it over will the timing Mark's ever line up again if not why

I can learn from them

When I pulled the timing cover off I didn't remove the solenoids or the sensors. I'm pretty sure the sensors are interchangeable but are the solenoids? My goal for the night is to get the chains on and the timing cover on. Maybe the oil pan on too but we'll see. So my only question is "are the solenoids location specific or can than go in any of the four holes? Thanks!

I followed all the steps, my left bank and primary aligning marks are good. My left bank cam phaser marks are in the down right position at the moment so i cannot place the colored links from the chain on them! some people are saying to rotate the cams independently but i do not want to mess anything up.

I got a question does the #1 piston need to be top dead center on phase 1? My friend is rebuilding his 3.6 and wanted to know. Thank you

Have an issue that i didn't think i would have. The crank was turned before stage 1 could be put on. How can you figure that out. Someone told me that you cant just line up the dots on the crank after that has been turned because its possible to be 180 degrees out. How do I determine it? How to set the crank?

Hi man! Great video! My case is very complicated, i really need your advice.. I own Camaro 2011 V6 3.6 which throws P0008 P0016... 1. Timing Chain Replaced(Cloyes complete kit) / (done it in 1 stage, not in 2 stages, used locking tool) 2. 4 Cam Phasers Replaced(OEM) 3. 4 Selenoids Replaced(OEM) 4. 4 Cam Sensors Replaced(ACDelco) 5. Crankshaft Sensor Replaced(ACDelco) Unfortunately nothing changed.. Still same codes. My mechanics double checked alignment... My car is running sluggish,poor.. What should we do next? Pls help

Good job 👍👍

Thanks for the detailed video. How much should we expect to pay to have this job done at a shop? I have a 2010 Traverse AWD

Thanks have a question At the end of the video you said the timing marks won’t line up again. I’m asking because I have a no start issue before and after chain install. So now I’m pulling valve covers off to see if my marks at least line up on the visible cam phasers. Trying not to Pull the timing Chain cover off. Just trying to check the markings on the cam phasers. I would like to think I can roll the engine over enough for bank one to see the phaser marks and links lineup. And then of course rotate the engine a quarter turn or so To see bank 2 phasers lineup chain links. Even though my original rollover but no start situation cause me to replace chain and found that the chain guide were gone But chain was still intact, my biggest mystery is that it could be something else why the engine will roll over but not start. So I simply am checking my work on the chain without taking the chain cover off. Will this test work by what I’m trying to do or do you have a recommendation on my no start issue.

Have you ever replaced an oil pump on this engine? I'm trying to figure out if I need some sort of o-ring or sealant where the back of the pump contacts the front of the engine. There seems to be some sort of round groove around the hole. Thanks!

Doing this timing job also. What i found crazy is that all the rocker arms on the intakes were just laying there as well as a couple lifters. I bought new rockers since most were broke but they are loose compared to the exhaust rockers. What causes this? Is it bad lifters or will they pressurize when the oil pump starts running again? Thanks for the video it has been a big help and any info on this.

So I'm doing this on my car and I set my timing on the passenger side(right side) already but I ran into an issue where I can't set my timing on the drivers side(left side) cause both cams are off somehow and I can't get either of them TDC any advise on how I can get them in the correct position to be turned to TDC?

Thank you for the video! 3 times later I’m still getting a P0019. All new parts including phasers☹️. Any suggestions?

Thank you so much

is that a genuine gm chain? i ordered one from amazon that is supposed to be genuine gm. the box had been opened so i am questioning it. it was marked made in Slovakia. my links colors look identical to yours. also the little white tag on the pull pins were marked made in Slovakia. is that correct for genuine gm?

Do u mnow what sensor right bellow crank pully

I'm in stage one timing. Unfortunately the crank skipped a bunch of teeth turning counterclockwise to get from stage 2 to stage 1. In stage 1 timing can you turn left bank cams counterclockwise without chain on to get back on time without hitting pistons? The 1 and 3 cylinders are down but number 2 is up almost all the way in stage 1 btw. I have the 3.0 LF1 V6 in equinox, is this interference or non interference? Could I have bent a valve hand cranking cams or no?

Melling gears video uses stage 1 only for taking apart and putting it back thoughts?

Any tips for a correlation codes on bank 2? Getting dtcs for both intake and exhaust on bank 2. All new OEM components, followed procedure, and by far the cleanest high mileage engine I've seen.

Vid is good to go. But not totally clear..Which cyl is tdc and on which stroke when you line up stage one timing marks on crank sprocket (presume crank sprocket could be lined up but not on correct stroke). Re-watching vid maybe I missed something. Again the vid is good to go. Thanks for posting.

Great video! The only question I have is, does any one cylinder have to be at tdc or doesn't it matter? Is it still timed correctly no matter where cylinder 1 is in the stroke?

Hi , couple of questions if u dont mind, when u took the old chains off what stage were u at,and what chain came off first. when u put the last chain on u had to rotate ur cams to flats up im assuming was it clock wise or anty clock wise

Do them timing chain s mess up dat often cause its alot videos on them

Great vid. One of the best I've watched. Got one on the lift now, spun a #6 rod bearing BUT, it always made a clattering sound even when it was warn and restarted. I now know it's probably one or more of the phasers. But, I don't really know how to service them. I know you can't do a vid just for me but maybe a quick explanation of why they would clatter, something about the pin is supposed to lock at zero oil pressure but in this case at least one does not. Just buy new pins? Is there a kit? If so I'm finding squat about on FB. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Great video! I have 2011 buick lacrosse 3.6L I was driving 5 mph and then the engine shut-off , it's sound like starter I was trying to turn the engine with the ratchet on camshaft pulled and won't turned, I believe the engine locked or seized, do you think could be timing chain broken?

just did mine on a equinox and the timing cover leaks i used red rtv any recomendations for sealant

hey mate I have an issue where I have changed phasers an tensioners an when I roll the engine the actuators move an or jump the timing, engine rolls over smooth though Ive fixed this a couple times an can't seem to figure it out as I'm not worried about the timing marks only that the cams dont follow north to south as they go pearshape, I don't think it's a reluctor issue though as I was driving the car lastweek fine til I pulled it apart an my issues that the cam phasers roll even new ones.

What do you do if your cam phasers don’t line up correctly with the stage timing?

I can't find any information on my 2013 3.6l 323hp V6 Camaro LT. The timing on mine goes smoothly on the left as yours does in the video, but when I get to the right side to install chain with timing marks the lobs on my cam shafts are not the same as you show in the video. I put the motor back together and it doesn't run properly. I'm back to the same spot on timing again and having the same issue with the cam lob position not where you show in the video. Is there something different about the 2013 Camaro? Any input or info on my model would be greatly appreciated.

Dumb question so jus line up timing marks on crank shaft number 1 doesn't have to be tdc

Hi i removed my rockers covers and had a quick look ,i then decided to rotate the engine for the timing marks but the i went anty clock wise and came to a stop ,i then checked the rockers and noticed right side last rocker on inlet side had come off , im not sure weather i caused the issue or it was there ,my code was p0008, if i did cause it how do i fix it ?looking forward to ur reply .

So if this engine were to jump time would it not be worth fixing? Or would a new timing kit fix it? Guess I'm asking is this engine an interference engine or not. This video helped me slot with wanting to take on the job but I'm wondering if its worth it?

‼️Guys I can really use some help here!!!! I accidentally turned the crank without the chains now I don't know where the Piston or the position should be for stage 1 timing🙏🏼??🙏🏼

The engine you could fix it

My garage told me this engine has 2 reluctor Wheels and they think one wheel has slipped causing a timing issue on the left Bank and said they have to remove my engine to investigate 🙄

Hey mate bit of confusion here, changed the cogs an the timing still wants to jump over the cam gears is that the tensioners not being primed??

I'm doing the same job at home and noticed the camshaft brackets on the Right bank fit really snug is that expected? Also, phase one will put cylinder one at top dead center correct?

Great video, with more detail than other you tube vid. I'm getting ready to do this job, I want to replace my cam phasers as long as I'm there do you have any video of replacing them?

Hi paul i got a mechanic to do it but he set everything at 9 0clock he stated thats how he does them ,he put them on i put the car together he took a fuse or relay out and jumped it to turn it with out it firing up once he fired the motor up it started to misfire then multiple misfires also a knocking noise in the manifold or appear to be the manifold can u help .

Hi, can ask what stage timing , 5, or 9.were u in before removing chains on right side also were u tdc before removing r s chains when u went to left side did u rotate the crank if so to what stage timing, after u replaced the chainns in stage 1 did u rotate the crank to stage 2 and what timming mark was it 5,or 9 haope u with me .cheers

In Stage 1 timing and 2 does it matter were the piston is on number 1 tdc.

Pauly, if you remove the cam phaser from the camshaft, how do they line up before you tighten them back on? Does that pin on the back sit within a hole on the cam?

Actually you can do both sides in stage 1

Can you please tell me the specs torque for front cover and valve covers? Thank you 🙏

Noway im put those aftermarket camphaser on my engine. No but thanks btw

What happens if I accidentally change the Left intake actuator for the Right Intake actuator?

Isn't the last chain suppose to line up right where the window is??? Mellings chain guy puts his at the window where your first sat before you changed timing

Hi which is bank 1 and ban2? in australia if ur standing in front of the vehicle left side is bank 1 stage 2 timming?

Hi paul my mechanic timed my chains at 9 0clock he said would be fine now i have multiple misfires code p0300 he still insists the timing is fine can u advise would be appreciated.

Is the stage 2 required ? I did it with the cam locks. Car doesnt run rough anymore but im still getting the timing codes and now my oil filter keeps collapsing and i lose oil pressure after like 50 miles of driving

Mine lined up with everything, but when I turn the engine over the cam sprocket makes a loud clicking sound, is this because of the variable timing ?

I need help. I assembled the engine block and timing and everything on an engine stand and somehow one of the cams is off by a tooth. I couldn't get it to start even though it would come damn close to running on it's own. So I scanned for trouble codes and it said one cam on one bank was too far advanced. I was so careful to make sure the links were in the correct location before I assembled it I know for a fact the timing was correct at that point. Now it's all back in the in the car and I'm going to have to attempt to fix it in vehicle this time. I'm a little worried though, if I somehow ended up a tooth off while having the motor on a stand right in front of my face I'm concerned it'll be even easier to mess up trying to do it in the car. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. To refresh, everything is new except for the 4 solenoids. New phasers, timing set....everything else was new. Is it possible that the jump could be related to the solenoids?

Should cylinder 1 be top dead when setting stage 1 or 2 ?

I have searched and can't find a reason for the 2 stage timing? The links line up whether or not you rotate the crank to the 2nd stage or not. What is the purpose of rotating the crank just to install the 3rd chain?

Where can I buy parts for 2010 Chevy traverse I’m rebuilding the engine

Is it normal for one of the cam gear to come loose? If so can it still be re timed with new chain kit?

i did mine myself . my acadia ran like a swiss watch for about a year.... now it does'nt want to run.. i got no idea why....................

Yeah dont always believe the marks. I took mine apart and got all my marks lined up before disassembly except the crank was off one tooth. The dealer and cloyes all said it must have skipped a tooth. I disagreed cuz top dead was not where all the marks lined up. But they insisted. I knew I should have went with my gut feeling but instead listened to the pros. Now the car stumbles at idle and levels out after the phasers engage. It's not enough to bend valves so I've been running until I have time to do all over again.

Pauly.... Should one consider changing the oil pump on a 2011, ~140k mile Traverse when doing a timing chain job like this, or it is not needed? Thanks.

I just did one of them pain in the ball i did it in the car too

I was really surprised to find a tightening sequence that said to torque them in sequence to 14 lb/ft and then an additional 60%. You may have a torquewrench that does both but mine doesn't. wouldn't it make more sense to use a torque spec only on something like that? What do you do? Thanks

Thanks for the info. I do have a question though. So I turned the crank to set on mark and noticed the right intake cam is popping. I don’t really know how those phasers work. Would my phaser be bad?

They all ways complain about never getting timing marks to line up again try 114 turns and back to marks again.

cual es el banco 2 en el motor de la captiva 3.2

Hi Pauly, mate im going around circles! this is the forth time i strip the engine and put it back together! I have followed every step got to do with the timing chains and after installing the new chains to the marks and after doing some revolutions I get slack in the primary chain! Any ideas what am I doing wrong? the car starts fine, rattles on cold start and the the rattle fades when the car starts to warm up. No fault codes though.

Hey buddy Does this work with the 3.0l sidi motor as well?

Paul, when I roll the engine over like you say to make sure the chain is seated. Is the popping noise from the tensioner and cam phaser normal for this process.

ASE tech says to never disturb the bolts on the oil pump...just wondering if you have not heard of that or do you feel this is bogus advice?

Hey paul when u removed the stage 2 chain what timing mark were u set at, 5,or 8, im having alot off trouble following the procedure re timing procedure, as everyone leaves bits out or does it differently. i found ur quick giude in reply to a comment but there u refer them as banks can u clarify please, would be apriciated

Question no this video is a little old now Had a cheap eBay timing chain kit go bad on an 07 Arcadia so going with the cloyes as a replacement after breaking the motor down in vehicle when the evergreen brand name eBay timing kit tensioner failed It jumped time on the front Bank then the intake valves and the worst part is it broke three of the cam caps my question is you can get the valves and all the other parts but is the cylinder head cam cap can you get that separately or do you have to get an entire new cylinder head. It sucks because I should have inspected the vehicle first after already ordering the new timing chain kit new camshafts and new GM phasers just to be wondering now if the head is toast.