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Virgin emperor: even though the galaxy is on fire everything is going just as planned vs chad ulric: apply hammer to chaos skull

“It’s like the flame of Asyruan, but wolfier” lore has officially peaked

I like to imagine that in Age of Sigmar, Ulric's retired in Azyr and sits around like a grandfather, either shit-talking Sigmar for not getting out there and fighting Chaos hand-to-hand like a real warrior or screaming "THAT'S MY BOY" whenever Sigmar does anything good.

You'll never convince me that Morr isn't real. I gave up Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, but you're not taking Morr from me.

None of these gods can hope to compare with the one true god, Boingob.

Humans be like "WE HAVE OUR OWN GODS!!!" and then have some of their oldest be called "Ishernos" This post was made by the Elven cult of Isha and Kurnous.

Hey Morr's temples are always finely decorated. Its just that all the decorations are always made of skulls

I would give praise to Mor, but I would never do something so heretical to risk angering my one true God, Nagash.

GW never capitalizing on the opportunity to have Werewolf zealots within the empire’s territory is criminal.

Don't doubt yourself, Big Chungus dejectedly telling you times are tough is peak comedy.

Morr is so cool. Morrslieb is called that because Morr is said to have destroyed one of the Chaos gates and thus created the dark moon, saving the world in the process.

Funnly enough there is a space wolves character called ulric the slayer He's like the reclusiarch

I can just imagine that if Ulric and the other Old Gods did meet Grimnir while fighting daemons, it was probably by complete accident after Grimnir slayer leaped into a Bloodthirster right next to them and they just had a momentary pause to do the confused blinking gif at each other.

Fun fact, in the first Fantasy Role-playing rulebook, Khaine was a human God and brother of Morr

Lucky you Pancreas, we are getting a bit more Morr thanks to Elspeth.

Neat fact: in the Empire there’s some humans who worship Khaine. They do so mainly as assassins and they’re basically the Warhammer version of the Dark Brotherhood.

There’s a blink and you’ll miss it reference to Morr in AoS. However, it’s as an aspect of Nagash called Nagash-Morr. So either Morr got eaten during the End Times as previously stated, or he actually made it to the Mortal Realms only to fall when Nagash was being himself… again. Either way, Nagash-Morr is described as studious, dutiful, and even somewhat fair as he catalogues and protects the dead. Which is probably the only time anyone in either setting said anything remotely nice about Nagash in any way, shape, or form. The reason I bring all this up is to prove what a cool guy Morr is/was. He was so level headed that he made even a relentless d-bag like Nagash chill the f out, even if only partially.

I will quote kirk for 40K: "what does god need with a starship?"

The humans nature gods literally being just the elf ones is so fucking funny

Ulric! Ursun! Sigmar! These three alone are worthy.

It's funny that despite the fact Ulric's been around since the literal birth of Warhammer lore in 3e, the only time we got the Warrior Priest of Ulric as a Hero unit in the Empire Army was in 6e - first in White Dwarf in 2006, then in the Storm of Chaos book. I mean, okay, it wasn't the best Hero; it was literally the original 6e Warrior Priest of Sigmar with the prayers swapped out for prayers that can be used to "grant a unit Immune to Psychology", "grant a unit +d3 inches when charging", "do a S4 hit to all enemies in base contact with the priest" and "inflict a -1 to hit debuff on an enemy unit", which are of somewhat questionable utility compared to the Sigmarite priest's prayers, but they could have tried giving them some better prayers in 7e and 8e!

I'd never ever feel bored whenever the gods in Warhammer fantasy were mentioned, in fact it was not as overwhelmed as 40k (cough *imperium, eldar and chaos* cough). because the gods in fantasy had their own jobs/specialty and had their own ways to interact.

On the note of The Doom of Kavzar, in an AoS book, Skaven Battletome I think, the Tower of Kavzar is named dropped as where the Council of Thirteen meet.

Elves, Lizardmen and Tomb Kings when some Reiklander calls one of their “gods” old:

That end credit joke flash-banged me harder than PancreasYouHadOneJob would flash/bang Teclis.

It's insane how night and day gods are in Fantasy compared to 40K. Like, Fantasy asctually has rich lore, variety and complexity when it comes to it's deities and their followers, meanwhile 40K despite it's larger scale has legit next to nothing in comparison. Like, even the main 4 Chaos Gods have been stripped of much of their complexity and other attributes/charecterization when compared to their Fantasy counterparts (and the less it's told about the Eldar pantheon the better).

"He's lucky he never met me or else he'd end up pregnant." Damn Pancreas, didn't know you liked him in THAT way

No Ancestor gods? These other gods ruined godland, you've just made an enemy for life.

I always hold Morr close to my hearth. My very first character in Warhammer Fantasy RPG was his acolyte. His name was Gaori from one of characters form anime Slayers. I was a wierd kid. But now I'm Myrmidia's devouted simp.

Pancreas video on my day off? Such is the power of Nagash

I like the old gods like Taal and Morr instead of all gods being chaos gods, emp or xenos gods I like how fantasy has whole pantheons for almost every faction allows me to scream MORRS SYCTHE CLAIMS YOU or SUFFER ULRICS WARTH BEAST

I love Morr. In a lot of fiction, death gods are often depicted as malevolent entities, and Morr is just a neutral entity. Any work that shows Death or the personification of as neutral, or even benevolent and kind are great in my opinion, and I love the whole "guarding the dead" thing Morr's priests do.

The Cult of Taal did kick off the time of three emperors. And this may be my massive Taal Bias showing, but if GW pulled out Ottila and gave her a a bunch of Griffons I bet that she could eclipse Daenarys easily.

I'm not scum, i wasn't even thinking about poison ivy until you said so. Now i cant stop seeing it. WHYYYYY

Pancreas upload! Time to drop what I’m doing to watch it.

Pancreas, I want more ogre propaganda. The maw demands it

the children of Ulric also appear in the black plague trilogy in which they are depicted as cursed beings and are said to be enemies of the ulrician beliefs

current status of the old world gods so far Empire gods Ulric-->dead Taal-->Still worship in the realm of ghur Rhya-->Unknown but if Taal still worship then i'm pretty sure she still around Morr--> Is back and still around by the new name Morrda Shallya-->Still stuck in Nurgle mansion as fantasy/AOS isha Myrmida-->Still around worshiped by Hysh human & even some Stormcast (new name Mirmdh) Mannan-->if he Mathlann then he got devoured by slaanesh Verna-->unknown Ranald-->Still worship in Shyish Kislev gods Ursen--->Unknown depending what the TTW canon route but is still remember and a city call Ursengrod in ghur Dwarf Griminir-->Shatter into various Grungi-->around drinking bugman with Sigmar and forging weapons and armor for him Valaya-->went from dead to MIA Gazul--> eaten by Nagash but shut the gates to the dwarven afterlife before nagash got in Elves Isha--> Reincarnated to Alarielle Kurnous-->Reincarnated to Kurnoth Khaine-->shatter to only a iron heart in Morathi possession Lileath/Lady of the lake-->dead Bunch of the others like Asuryan, Morai-heg, Loec/Cegorach ect was devoured by slaanesh but as of recently shards has escape She who Thirst stomach and is currently seeking host to reincarnate ogres Great Maw-->sort worship as it now an aspect of Gorkamorka call the Gulping god but the original worship of the real maw is still around but is considered heretical by the other Mawtribes Fire Mouth--->dead? like it's a volcano there nothing really that special it flooded the ogre kingdom in the ET

This is why I converted from Warhammer 40k to Fantasy

Luckily for us Morr lovers, he's one of the gods who are still present in age of sigmar! Morrda is a god of death worshipped by a big city of the mortal realms who's priests do rites that prevent corpses from being raised by necromancy. Sounds familiar?

Okay Pancreas, I will admit it. Your opinion on Teclis is very relatable, you have good taste in twinks

that last line hit me like a ton of bricks but you know what, he's not wrong

that teclussy knowledge at the end really fucked me up, thanks

Nice to see something different from Warhammer discourse that isn’t about whining about the Custodes.

That last line basically gave me a concussion. Id say I hope you're proud of yourself, but I know you are... But besides that, love the video. Eagerly await the rest of this mini-series!

I was playing the beta of the first Vermintide, knowing nothing about Warhammer Fantasy (was firmly a 40k guy), and it was Kruber mentioning Taal that got me onto Lexicanum wiki to see what a "Taal" was, and lo and behold, within a week I was WHFB pilled and writing a fan fiction about a Sewer Jack lmao

I never thought I'd here someone say that the brain will shrivel and die if you don't do math. WE FINALLY HAVE SOME ACCURATE FACTS!

Fun fact - Morr is strongly implied to still be "alive" in AoS, as there's a Free City in Shyish that are described as worshipping a benevolent death god called "Morrda" that looks like a raven and helps ensure his followers pass on peacefully & aren't captured/controlled by Nagash's sorcery. In general, I'm hoping more gods - both original (like the King of Cats or whatever his name is) and from Fantasy - start to appear in AoS. I also like from an anthropological perspective, so many of the various Fantasy gods are implied to be the same across different pantheons, just under different names (i.e., Mathlann, the Elven god of the sea, and Manann, the Empire's god of the sea, are all but spelled out to be the same person), as it reminds me of how many different pantheons share a "common ancestor" in the proto-Indo-European pantheon. It's a great bit of worldbuilding _and_ clever writing on behalf of Games Workshop's writers. Great video as always, man! Can't wait for you to do a video on Ursun!

I'm glad he clarified which poison ivy we were talking about.

Ulric is so badass that his worshipper became a god and his worshiper's worshiper became the one of chaos' fiercest foes. Still, Ptra's worshipper is Settra, so its a fierce battle for the top spot.

i kinda like how fantasy has actual gods to worship compared to 40k. it gives more credence to the idea that the warp manifests both good and bad parts of sentient thought, with all these gods having a good and bad side to them, and of course chaos being the most extreme example of this. it makes more sense for chaos gods to exist when gods of positive emotions exist as well. in 40k i'm just always thinking "where are the chaos gods of positive emotion"

Ray, when a 20 foot tall chaos entity asks if it's a god: you say YES!

Kind of a spoiler if you're looking to read the Back Plague books, but one of the Children of Ulric was a vital companion and (potentially a lover) for Mandred Skaven Slayer during the Skaven wars. They do show up in other places, but the cult of Ulric really doesn't like to admit they exist and have Ulrics favor.

warhammer fantasy just gives me ankh mopork vibes with how it does gods, you dream it up, now there is a god of a burglars guild

Honestly I feel like the C’tan are kind of above gods due to them being a manifestation of a concept and their destruction can cause huge ripple effect that can harm the universe but I could be wrong.🐱

That's why 40K is just as fantasy as AOS and TOW. There is magic all around.

Welcome to Estalia gentlemen. I will not lie, the chances of your survival are small. Some may even turn against your friends as living corpses, but you have my word that I will use my arcane gifts to ensure your bodies are given unto Morr's Garden. This is the greatest reward, more than even gold, for the fate of your soul is an eternal concern!

Ha, jokes on you! I actually like listening to you explain warhammer fantasy lore

Well I am super excited to hear this is a series. Cannot wait to see how you cover the Maw

14:12 no I laughed pretty good at that . The bunny standing up hahaha.

The relationship between Ulric and Sigmar reminds me a bit of the relationship ship between Ra and Osiris/Horus where Ra was the first king of the gods but he retired to let the new kid on the block take over

To be honest, I only follow this channel to hear about Warhammer fantasy lore like this, not that 40k thing you all seem to adore

If Teclis could survive an adventure with Gotrek, he could probably avoid having your kid(s).

It's funny how in Warhammer fantasy role play 2ed you can play as pries of Manann, and due to his changing personality, every time you break one of his commandments, you just roll the dice for new ones. You can choose out of like 11 commandments and the Manann just goes like "yea i dont care you swear on sea now, but i dare you not to release this fish".

This is, honestly, probably the most cursed ending of the video so far. I admire you, Pancreas.

happy to see more gods soon. sounds like a good series.

Love that you putting a spotlight on the religions of warhammer.

Damn 480 views in 3 minutes? bro might go big one day

The fact that Taal and Rhya where once called “Ishernos” just flat out confirms that all the non-chaos gods outside of Sigmar, the ancestor gods, and maybe Ulric are just the elf gods with different names

TFW 40k is most likely to introduce another Space God plastic miniature before we ever get Sigmar mini

Love these long lore vids

I think Pancreas missed a bit of the nuance regarding Rhya. WFRP 4e says many scholars believe her worship is dying because she doesn't have great temples or holy books, and that "Her many cultists do nothing to contradict such talk". The message there isn't that her cult is dying or dead as those scholars believe, it's that she's a VERY popular goddess whose worship is out in the countless villages and farmsteads of the Empire and beyond, not the cities where the especially stuffy scholars who've never seen a peasant before write their theses. She's the goddess of several important spheres, one of them agriculture, and three quarters of the Empire are farmers. Her cult is enormous and very important, even without big temples or holy books, same as it's been for millennia. Three extra little fun facts about Rhya: 1. The Cult of Taal and Rhya as a single organisation only exists in the eastern Empire. Elsewhere, they're two separate cults. She's treated with utmost respect in the south, considered a rustic goddess revered in her place in the west, and her cult is present but more distant in the north, where it's harder to farm. 2. She officially sanctions gay people; one of her strictures is "Never judge whom another loves". Pretty cool of her there. Before the fourth edition of the RPG, there were real life people who thought she'd be homophobic because gay couples can't have kids, and then it turned out to be the opposite, accepting gay people is a core virtue. 3. Taal and Rhya are polyamorous. They're married and love each other very much, though many of Rhya's kids came from other gods.

That last line was very relatable. Perhaps the most.

That end part though. "I have depicted my armor as the soy wojak and myself as the chad, therefore I am the victor."

Fantasy werewolfs are really metal. Literally tearing its way out from their human form into their wolf form wearing the tatters of their human skin.

Morr is best death god. I hope he someday tears himself out of Nagash’s stomach and takes his rightful place as Lord of Shyish.

19:20 a Warhammer Fantasy calendar video would be interesting, so we can learn more about what shit like Geheimnisnacht is. Sounds like an annual event. I'm interested.

funny how this comes just as the new dlc for total warhammer comes and it has a lady completely dedicated to mor

Thanks for that ending stinger, Pancreas, I’ll be sure to visit Morr’s Garden very soon.

Great video, I would love to have more old world/fantasy lore 😊

Very informative, thanks!

I'd like to see the "Gods of Warhammer - Dwarven Gods" video soon. Grimnir would be cool to talk about, and his comparative relation to Gotrek.

I’m excited for you to cover Myrmidia

You from from a fun rabbit joke to the most endearingly genuine mispronunciation (*as much as you can with a made up word*) of Talabecland and it was great

Can't wait to see more gods of warhammer videos

Ulric was worthy of worship by Sigmar, so he's good enough for me too. Though the Dawi and Asur have mighty pantheons as well (and the Dawi are the best) But Lileath is the greatest troll of any universe. True queen shit, especially since Bretonnia sucks. But any God that stands against the big 4 are good in my book, even if their methods suck

Always love to see TOW content!

Nice Mpreg joke at the end.

Damn, this be doing numbers

Seriously lack of luthor harkon but...the sea god...hmmm yes good truly he is pirate( great video! Keep up the grand work!)

Missed opportunity to play a bass-boosted version of Markus Kruber's *BY TAAL! FIGHT! KILL! DEATH!* with a prior warning only for viewers on screen and not the listeners. Such could've been the power of Nagash.

Just got outta Bootcamp and had some time to burn. Happy to see a new post :)

The Skaven aren't completely evil. They do keep screwing Nagash over. That alone gets them Settra's approval.

The Rhya vs Slaanesh rivalry of love vs pleasure has a good example in AoS too in one story where a Hedonites commander captured a Sylvaneth to try and turn her to his side as he cultivated her sisters into exotic fruit trees and wanted soulpods to grow his own army. When walking through his harems with her he asked if she was bothered by it and she no for as a creature of the Life Realm Sylvaneth approve of the acts of love creating birth & more life* However he said their acts won’t as they use magic to keep them sterile as children take away pleasure and Slaanesh’s followers only want to focus on the here and now. This puzzled her and had her say then it is simply a pointless act as you are people without legacies and no future or potential as that is the greatest gift of life vs pure pleasure. (He would later get his wish of “planting an army” but oohhh all the monkey paws curled on that wish. Don’t eat Sylvaneth fruit, your outhouses will become barracks) *Realm of Ghyran is big on it, even the landmasses multiply by having genders so they drift together and mate to birth new islands and floating landmasses.

I look forward to any exploration of Ursun you end up doing! I know Total War: Warhammer 3 had a lot of lore creation, updates and tweaks to some of its factions because they were fairly obscure, but I am very curious to learn if he entirely separate from the Old Gods mentioned here or not.

I'd love if you did one on Ursun since the story around TW WH3 revovles around everyone trying to either save, kill or eat him

Maybe a quick rundown on the minor & regional gods of the empire in the next video? Katia, Bögenauer, Handrich... A lot are mentioned in wfrp 4e corerulebook and Archives III.

Great vid!!

You should make a video about the True king of Eightpeaks, Skarsnik