This is the final video I plan to make on this topic, lest something BIG happen.

Perhaps the most arrogant and scummy period in the history of KZfaq commentary, and potentially the worst part is you can tell no one made them out of love for the franchise, SAD

Godzilla's legacy isn't being discovered his wikipedia article is being discovered

you know the most hilariously and IRONIC thing about this? is that the majority of GODZILLA fans GREW UP and became fans of GODZILLA with the VERSUS FILMS, yet you have this fake TREND CHASERS suddenly showing up and acting like GODZILLA expert, trying to flex their MASSIVE EGO, calling out people who's been in the franchise since the beginning that GODZILLA can only be one thing and insulting those who just enjoy GODZILLA MOVIES regardless of the quality.

I absolutely loved Minus One, but it’s really a shame what KZfaqrs have turned it into. I hate seeing the king of monsters’ legacy overlooked and dismissed to prove some vague point about modern Hollywood.

I feel all the current film "essayists" should be directed to all of big action bills' "history of Godzilla" videos. There they can see someone who did actual research into each film while providing the historical and cultural context of a lot of them. One good thing Skipper did was mention his videos.

I hope the grifting from clueless youtubers ends soon and we can all just go back to enjoying Godzilla in peace again.

Having your niche hobby blow up in popularity is both a blessing and a curse. This same kind of stuff happened with warhammer 40k, berserk and metal gear revengence

If anything, the worse Godzilla media that tried REALLLLLY hard to be serious instead of just monsters fighting was the anime trilogy

I saw someone on Twitter point this out, and I think it bears repeating. We would be wise to accept that this remains, and likely always will be a niche fandom, and that casual audiences often are not interested in learning. Not to say that they can't, only to say that if they do, they'll likely become more honest fans. I don't think anybody is saying there are not bad Godzilla movies. Just that there are more than 3. It seems to me that there's an emerging substrate of people who like Minus One, probably Shin and '54, and genuinely aren't interested in exploring the rest of what the franchise has to offer. And to be honest, that logic fails me. I don't understand why you would look at something you like, see that there's more, and think "ah, the rest must suck," rather than "oh, there's more!" I really do feel like people look at a couple clips from the late Showa movies and turn away, which is beyond disappointing. Stating an opinion is one thing, but stating blatant misinformation and puking out bad faith arguments is another. I love the way you put it, we just want honesty and respect. We're not asking that everybody loves the thing that we're passionate about, we just don't want to have our faces spat in.

As a lifelong Godzilla fan I always hoped the franchise I love would explode in popularity and become mainstream. I take it back. The consequences of that are awful

Godzilla has been serious, goofy, over the top, character driven, monster driven, and all in between and I'd say they're all valid for anyone to enjoy as long as you know what you're getting into. This feels like these guys were called out for criticizing the GxK trailer for Godzilla running, saying it's just stupid and bad, ignoring all the iconic and hilarious moments from other films. Then they basically said to themselves, "Well I'm always right, so maybe 90% of Godzilla films are garbage, or have no reason to exist".

This is really a general problem with video essays. lots of people getting well known facts wrong or omitting certain information to push their narrative. often accompanied by lots of self absorbed rambling

I only really got into Godzilla fairly recently. The Monsterverse started my love for Godzilla, and my love came and went over the years. Especially as an American, where Godzilla isn’t that big. Last year my Godzilla love came back, and I ended up going through all 70 years of Godzilla films for the first time. I ended up enjoying so many of the movies. Both the goofy and weird movies of the later Showa era, and the more serious films of the early Heisei era. (I can’t defend All Monsters Attack though). I started reading Godzilla comics, buying Godzilla toys, interacting with Godzilla fans. I got to finally see why people loved Godzilla so much. I thought Minus One was amazing, and I was so happy when people who aren’t fans were interested in Minus One, and that it was becoming such a big hit. Hoping that maybe this’ll lead to a renaissance for Godzilla in America. But instead we got these annoying people.

Nerdstalgic is the watchmojo of video essays

I’ve had so many thoughts on these people trying to grift and “ride” on the Godzilla franchise thinking they’re better than us. But everyone has already said their piece so lemme share what I feel. Basically I became a fan since “the dark ages”, beginning in 2004 and for like 10 years we’ve had nothing until 2014 when Legendary brought the franchise back. I was already heavily bullied back in school, and it got worse when I started liking Godzilla. Hell if it weren’t for Godzilla I wouldn’t be the person I am today, not to go into too much. And to this day, I am so grateful for Godzilla having such a pop culture resurgence thanks to Legendary and The Monsterverse. Was everything that came out of this new daikaiju era perfect? No of course not. But at least we have content that we can appreciate and love. And Minus One is the best film of 2023 for me because it felt so personal for me it’s message reached me in such a way that I was crying for a week thinking about it. So when I see these “grifters” coming in here making these videos, they’re telling us “hey you guys are stupid for liking this. And I’m right because I made a KZfaq video telling you why you’re wrong”. This gets me so angry whenever these guys are talking to US and trying to deceive their viewers into thinking Godzilla is just a stupid franchise when it’s not. I’ve mentioned so much about how Godzilla should have variety in its films but now it just legit feels like bullying at this point, and I hate how these grifters have such a presence with the viewers who already watch their content on the daily, and now they’re gonna think Godzilla movies suck because some clown told them in a video. And I’m pretty sure you guys are tired of feeling like you’re being talked down to now thanks to these guys. I won’t share any negative thoughts or actions we could do to these guys because at the end of the day, we should prove to these guys why Godzilla works in general, and continue to love how this now 70 year old franchise is continuing strong to this day. Hope you all have a good day, and let’s not feed anymore attention to these clowns. Let’s just enjoy Godzilla because we helped build this community up brick by brick, and I’d be damned if these KZfaq commentator/movie essay elitists come in here and say otherwise!

Nerdstalgic is borderline content farm garbage and also just steals content. I stopped watching their vids ages ago. I wish other people would do the same.

Honestly nerdstalgic's video was so boring I couldn't bother with it beyond the clip I saw on twitter someone posted. I just can't stand to watch these mediocre KZfaqrs speak on Godzilla with that false sense of authority. I don't even hate that these videos exist or that droves of normies watch them. But the fandom should really just ignore these doofuses for their own peace of mind.

It’s not just Godzilla. Content farms have latched onto “video essays” of just around the 10-15 minute to maximize KZfaq monetization and spread inaccurate information and bad takes all the time. I mean nerdstalgic (one of the creators in the thumbnail) is just a content farm run by the guy who did cleanprincegaming after becoming too much of a meme with his “XGame isn’t dead it was murdered” series.

This could be related to the topic but I had a former friend who always shat out bad takes. He said crap like "Batman's suit shouldn't be grey" or "Han Solo can beat Spider-Man" or the dreaded "bAtMaN aNd SuPeRmAn ArEn'T fRiENdS". And these videos made me think, if one doesn't understand the subject their talking about, then they should just shut up, especially these Video Essayists 🤦‍♂️

Thank you for covering this epidemic of grifters with no real knowledge of the franchise. Im somewhat glad godzilla is more recognized but i miss being able to enjoy the gman in peace.

The only KZfaqr worthy of making Godzilla video essays is Big Action Bill.

Nerdstalgic has covered Godzilla before Minus One came out, his videos are pretty poopy. Like in one video, he argued that superhero movies are no longer good because the fights take place in the air and none of the ground, or something like that.

Popularity is a double-edged sword. It’s great to see more people engage with something I’ve loved for just about all my life (it’s even greater to be the guy to introduce people to it), but you also get people like this who clearly don’t care to be curious. I’m really glad to see godzilla get some acknowledgment after being surrounded by people who didn’t even know what a godzilla was. I just wish people could celebrate minus one’s success without also shitting on the older movies

I really regret Godzilla becoming mainstream cause now I can't enjoy watching his content without having some fake-ass experts telling me how to live my f*cking life about a media that they're clueless about. Smh

The people that make these videos about Godzilla being a problematic franchise is that they saw Minus One and it basically made them think nothing else in the franchise truly matters. The thing is, even if the later Godzilla films, Showa, Heisei, Millenium, Monsterverse, etc., aren’t as dramatic or deep as the 1954 film or Minus One, most of them are still entertaining. Because not every film needs to have a deep meaning or be as dramatic as a Godfather movie, sometimes a Godzilla movie can just be dumb fluff and still be fun to watch. But people behind videos like those will praise Minus One, forgetting everything else that happened from the first film to now, forget other attempts to make Godzilla scary again like 1985, GMK or Shin Godzilla, and act like they’re smarter about the franchise than they actually are.

I think a great follow-up video would be "How To Get Involved In The Godzilla Community". It would be a great way for people to learn how to talk with experts and other fans who love this franchise. (It would be a useful resource for people like me, too haha.) P.S. I learned something new about Shin. Thanks!

Its sad watching these braindead takes being pushed for the obvious reason of them riding the coat tails of Godzilla. But what iam happy about is the Godzilla fanbase as a whole are not accepting and calling out these grifters. They obviously arent true fans and will be distracted by the next shiny thing that releases, while us Godzilla fans will remain and bicker amongst one another as usual. I love that Godzilla is finally getting the attention and recognition he deserves but its a double edged sword, with it comes a lot of riff raff. Thank you sir for speaking up on this. If anything what this whole debacle demonstrates is perhaps a little bit of gatekeeping is okay...

It's these kind of people that really get my goat when it comes to being a Godzilla fans. Specifically when people saw the latest film, they like or hate it, then make a video about it acting like they're suddenly a major expert on the franchise. And unlike people like Dangerville for example, a person who clearly knows the ins and out of the franchise, these people come out showing us that they know nothing at all. It's like what that famous George Lucas quote says; "I've discovered that most critics themselves are cinematically illiterate. They don't really know much about movies. They don't know the history. They don't know the technology. They don't know anything. So for them to try to analyze it, they're lost." And it's videos like these that are proving that to me everyday... 😮‍💨

King Kong vs Godzilla is one of the best films in the series. Not only is the monster action tons of fun, but it's a great satire of commercialism and capitalism while also being the only film in the franchise that is a straight-up comedy.

I feel like doktor skipper in going to make shit like "HA! I trolled the whole godzilla community" or something like that bullshit

I know exactly how you feel. I’ve been a Spider-Man fan my whole life, and seeing people speak with absolute authority on the character, despite only watching some movies and playing the PlayStation games is frustrating.

These channels couldn’t make Disney and Marvel hate forever so they chose Godzilla as their new content farm. Pathetic, us fans have to fight back.

Top Gun Maverick isn’t really saying anything deep and yet I don’t see anyone trashing on that film.

The fact that Nerdstalgic released a video about Godzilla so similar to Doktor Skipper's, and so eerily similar in thesis, is...let's just say curious. If anything, this just proves that One Monstrous Moment is needed now more than ever.

Nerdstalgic famously steals ideas and content from other creators. They’re shameless about it too, for example there was a video about the Generation X TV movie that hit the algorithm recently (the video is a year old, and then showed up in my recommended feed suddenly last week). Within a day of seeing that, Nerdstalgic did their own video on that, hitting all the same points about the same largely-forgotten and niche movie that no one remembers. Whatever’s popular, they’ll farm it, milk it, and exploit it. Agreed on your points about the lack of research, these guys making these videos just wanna get their numbers up. Once GXK comes out, you’ll see the same thing sadly. Sucks for people who actually love these franchises.

The only video essay about Godzilla from a nonfan that was great was BigJoel going over 1954. He admits he doesn’t have a strong grasp of the franchise, but focuses on his prespectives on the 1954 film and what he took away from it. The honesty and focusing only on one film puts him above the others.

Imagine if people could research

This is why gatekeeping is a thing, people like this are opportunists and turns fandoms toxic.

"because the godzilla fanbase understands this topic better than you do by far , BY FAR" LOL made me pause I was laughing too hard. Love this video and the last one, thank you for always proving how easy and quick the research is especially when fact checking yourself

Now that Godzilla is popular and trending, the tourists are popping up trying start controversies. This is why gatekeeping is necessary, to keep these opportunists out.

I can say one good thing about all this, it got me as a very casual Kaiju fan to go rewatch some old Godzilla movies that I probably wouldn't have otherwise

Im sorry but These are types of movie watchers are either disingenuous or they aren't real movie watchers. It's like they watched the film but they were on their phone for half that time. When making an argument, you need to gather evidence that are factual that help support your argument. I mostly dislike doing essays but even I know this. I know we should leave them alone but they're spinning a false narrative that should be called out, if they're doing this think about the other misinformation these people like to spread.

I spent my whole life really only talking about Godzilla with my brother and parents because my parents were interested in Godzilla. They sat us down and we watched the hilariously dubbed Godzilla movies together. That’s a cherished memory for me and it sucks that all these randoms who never seen a Godzilla movie that wasn’t made this millennium speak on a franchise that’s near to my heart. I haven’t seen Minus One yet because of all the negative comments about previous Godzilla films in comparison. I’ll probably watch it one day but right now it kinda left a bad taste in my mouth

This is a repeat of what happened when Puss in Boots the Last Wish came out. It wasn't about how good the film was, it was about using it as a weapon to bash Disney animated movies like Turning Red. I don't enjoy this type of reactionary essayist I'm starting to see rise up. Film is a flexable medium that should never be asked to be one tone of thing. I'm really glad Godzilla fans are pushing back on this odd naritive that Godzilla must be serious and dark all the time. The fact that we are actively getting both, is a genuine treat few franchises get to enjoy at the same time.

Honestly the only big KZfaq that should talk about Godzilla is Cinemasscare (The AVGN)

I’m a Japanese Godzilla fan and this is sad to hear that and it hurts my feelings and hopefully next time he makes more research before talking about Godzilla.

I knew this sort of thing would happen I knew that once Minus One started taking off in popularity and critical reception we'd start getting people who know nothing about the franchise spouting off their terrible hot takes and do you know what the worst part is? It's ruining Minus One for me like initially I liked it, I thought it was great, a bit over hyped and derivative from my perspective, but overall good, and I still think that but now the film is gathering a pretentious crowd of faux-intellectuals pretending they know anything about Godzilla, and I've grown to dread any discussion of Minus One, like, start a timer see how long it takes someone to start putting down other Godzilla movies while discussing Minus One

A month late, but the after coming back from seeing Godzilla x Kong these sort of youtube critiques from Nerdstalgic, Skipper, etc. feel so so cynical. So contrived, as if mocking people for liking a thing. I've been a life-long Godzilla fan, having seen every single Godzilla movie that released in theaters since 1998 at a ripe young age of five years old. And I've been a bullied kid my whole life too, Godzilla being a point of contention used by bullies at school and home alike. From being forced to throw out all my Godzilla toys when I became a teenager in order to 'grow up' by my Stepfather (including custom made plushes that are unrecoverable...) to me internalizing and burying it for a time until I discovered fan-kaiju circles online. My one support group after years of being isolated for liking this character, this franchise. And eventually G14 came out. And I felt like a kid again. The theater clapped when Godzilla used his breath for the first time and there was cheers when he survived and went back to the sea. KOTM...I cried no less than three times in that movie as it spoke to my inner bullied child so deeply and personally that to see it be the punching bag for insecure fans, critics and youtubers wanting to make a quick buck I fell into a deep depression. In Godzilla X Kong... when I went to theaters, Thursday night, I saw entire families there. Dozens of children and people of all ages. Kids **excited** to see Godzilla. Adults talking the franchise. As a bullied kid who was mocked, bullied, and had real trauma inflicted on me for liking this franchise... this was one of the most validating things to see, to see this thing that I love thrive. The fact that kids can love Godzilla and it being accepted and not be the source to bully someone over and something EVERYONE can appreciate and love and enjoy is something that warms my heart. So to go back to Skipper and Nerdstalgic and others of their ilk, all that does is damage that. All their videos do is pander to a cynical mindset that encourages people to mock, deride and gatekeep to stand from above talk down to people for liking the things they derided for quick youtube views. While they might not mean it, and only saying it to pay bills... their tens of thousands of fans will. They'll regurgitate their words like gospel. Spew their critiques as if fact and use it to people in other places who actually like the thing their 'critic senpai' derided. And all that does is make people bury what they love. To bury their emotions as sincerity is the greatest crime imaginable on the internet, and push things back to where they were in the early 2000's where kids would gang up in their cliques to bully and deride a kid who likes some weird thing they don't. But seeing GxK that thursday night and seeing a packed theater full of kids and full of people clapping and having an utter good time was such a emotional antithesis to any video of their ilk. The Monsterverse isn't perfect... neither is Minus One, but we have multiple flavors of a character that both lead directors gush about in unision and the franchise having and gaining more and more mainstream attention, appeal and more than all new fans coming in day by day. For this longtime fan, that is the most validating and magical thing to see.

Very well put, addressed everything wrong with these type of videos, there’s no love or care put into them at all just pure slop for views. I’ve been a fan of the series most of my life and it hurts to see videos like this get put out cause I know people will believe the nonsense in them.

They should take them down. Constant miss information is a problem. So many people don’t research or read past a headline.

I kept seeing people in the comments mention gatekeeping. Which is the act of limiting access to a community, group, or culture. Is that fair? Why should we limit? Some seem to give idea that it is necessary! Why? Wouldn't we become the very thing we hate? Wouldn't we become that unfortunate stereotype in the 80s n 90s of the angry person who says they know what is best for a franchise than the people who get paid millions of dollars to make them? Also, what godzilla anime is everyone talking about? I saw one on Netflix and thought it was pretty good. Also, having a good optimistic attitude to the godzilla franchise as a whole I think is a good thing to have.

The classic Twitter apology for a video that was posted on KZfaq Just another slap in the face

One of those stupid grifter channels made a stupid "wOke pink Godzilla, monsterverse bad" take needless to say it's a bad video joke's on them when GxK make a million😆

As someone who was ten years old when the first American Godzilla movie came out (thanks again, Emmerich 🙄) I actually fell in love with Godzilla through Marc Cerasini's books. I can't imagine getting on KZfaq in front of the entire internet and trying to absolutely bullshit my way through a franchise I know nothing about. Shit's wild. And this idea that you should watch only Gojira 1954, Shin Godzilla, and Minus One is asinine. The Heisei Series is some of the best Godzilla ever put to film.

I think the most puzzling thing about that Doktor Skipper video is when he straight up says he doesn't even like the franchise. If you don't even like most of the franchise are you really the one to make a retrospective about the meaning behind said franchise?

It's the same problem with KZfaqrs who make videos about why Star wars,marvel or any other franchise is dead.More than half of them don't care about the franchise they just want a video to get some quick views and nothing else.

I have seen Godzilla with his fandom described as "A Sacred Cow", something that is above criticism. Not only is that untrue because even as a lifelong fan even I know that Godzilla is definitely not something above being criticized but it paints the series as something it's fans never wanted to see change in any way. Which is literally the opposite of what we've been saying the past couple of days. Minus One has become both a blessing and a curse, which is a real damn shame.

Godzilla is being blasted by westerners right now and it's getting to the point where I've had enough.

Skipper's apology felt half-assed to me

KZfaq critics: “HOLLYWOOD IS DYING, DO YOU SEE HOW RIGGED THE OSCARS ARE?” Also KZfaq critics: *(doesn’t know an entire franchise exists until one movie gets an Oscar)*

I recall one video from a few weeks ago that called Godzilla Minus One "woke" in the title. My only takeaway from this wave of video essay hacks is always gatekeep.

Can’t we all just be happy that we are getting so much Godzilla recently. We can have both the darker tones like minus one and the fun monster mash of Godzilla x kong.

Tbh all these arguments really make me wanna stab my eyes out.. I just wish we were now in a time where we don’t beat down our favorite Kaiju’s films… like, with these debates and arguments, I just wanna be a “normal” fan and just love Godzilla like we should. Great video my guy 👍

Man, i remember this happening to so much other franchises, Star Wars being a huge one. If its anythjng to learn, keep normies out of your hobbies.

keep making these dude. the people that say shit like everyone is entitled to there own opinion is failing to realize that your also entitled to your own opinion about there opinion. Watching the kaiju community come together against these kinds of people has honestly been when the of the wholesome things i think this community has done in a while.

one thing I noticed is how people beg for x, but complain. so now they're given y, and they still complain that they want x. franchises might be forced into a tightrope act for people that might not even be interested at all, let alone be supported in what they want to do. on the other hand, some franchises still get support despite ruining what was supposed to be great by tacking on things that were irrelevant or just had no reason of existing in the first place. a good part of a community will now have to deal with what a bunch of hecklers wanted, or what the investors wanted for the muns. genuinely difficult to enjoy content these days especially when you barely have the time to enjoy them; I've seen the paleontology community brawl about accuracy where it isn't needed, I've seen the art community tear itself again over some trend, I also hear of people still getting bullied for the things they like and getting their interests compared or some shit. eventually it'll all come back to tribalism as opposed to learning from the past and making something new with that knowledge. it's already suffocating enough to have think i had the same interests with other people when it turns out they had those interests for less-than-stellar reasons, if they even are interested or passionate about it at all.

It’s a heck of a time to be a Godzilla fan right now. On one hand, Minus One is amazing and I’m overjoyed that it got the franchise its first Oscar nomination. On the other hand we’re getting these content creators who have a really narrow vision of what Godzilla is supposed to be and fail to realize why the franchise has existed for as long as it has. I can say with certainty that GxK probably won’t have the same kind of critical acclaim that Minus One has, but the last thing I want is for it to get overly bashed on because it wasn’t as critically acclaimed as Minus One.

I think it's just a bunch of film nerds seeing Minus One and pissing themselves of how artsy it is with its "humble" budget. Then using Minus One as their RENT style Indi over commercial soap box. Godzilla forbid some of these hot takes dig past the surface and gamble that their reactionary take might not stick the landing and they would have to grow a little as a person.

I'm fairly new to the community and did a huge Godzilla binge and loved it. These people havent seen the older movies that gives the franchise its charm with both fun goofiness and seriousness. Its why I love the monsterverse for just being a fun time and the Toho movies for being more serious. Heck my personal favorite movie is Godzilla vs Biollante.

I just want to be able to enjotly the things I grew up on again. Why does everybody have to take Godzilla so seriously? He can be serious, silly, both, neither, and everything in between. It isn't that deep. I've lost sleep from having to argue in KZfaq comments about this shit. I'm tired of having to explain why King Kong existing isn't racist. I'm tired of people shitting on me for liking Godzilla vs Hedorah. I just want to enjoy my monsters again. I draw kaiju constantly. I have enough to make a goddamn story out of them. I love kaiju, and I wish everybody could love them the way I do, too.

So it's been a while since i read up on it but i remember some of the themes brought up in Vs king Ghidorah were Japanese nationalism and business, part of the reason one of the main secondary characters was a former Japanese soldier turned business magnate who's efforts are, in the movie, credited with not only helping Japan economically recover, but economically explode, and the movie implying that if that course continued, Japan would surpass the rest of the world. I can't actually remember all the stuff mentioned about that or what side the movie was on, though i can hazard a guess.

the main issue is these people don’t understand there are both masterpieces and movies so bad their good. they are not really movie lovers as a whole cause godzilla covers every aspect of that.

Imagine being an essayist giving a historical retrospective of godzilla movies and then implying that godzilla vs hedorah has no artistic vision behind it and nothing it wants to say.

I would say, that Godzilla Minus one is probably my new favorite of the series. But does that mean I’m suddenly going to disown the entire rest of the series? Of course not, there honestly hasn’t been a single one that I’ve outright hated.

Also, pink godzilla has been a thing since 1999. Godzilla 2000 has pink dorsal plates! And they looked awesome! edit: Some of the merch and some production photos of the film have plates in a color close to pink (probably due to saturation) but apparently the plates are supposed to be purple. thx Kaiju bm4ts for telling me off. I just had a Doktor Skipper moment lol.

Mediocre YTers speaking with authority on things they know nothing about is an epidemic at this point.

These videos on Godzilla by video essayist reminds me of Cosmonauts video on Jojo where he misrepresents the series and characters and his fans deflect any critisms of that video as "Oh those insane jojo fans"

I both love and hate how Godzilla has been popularized; new fans who are actually interested in it and ask questions about the lore and films, it's awesome, but there's also people clowning on it in multiple ways and it's unfortunate. It's a cinema legend that's lived for 70 years for a reason. I don't understand the people who say it's too "campy" or "ridiculous" for them, but then go watch and rave about a marvel movie... I never understood why an ancient 50-100m animal from the ocean, that sometimes fights other ancient 50-100m animals, is too much to suspend disbelief. It's fantastical, but nowhere near the most fantastical cinema has presented to us, by a long shot.

"Am I expecting you to buy a 30 US dollar to do your research?" It's a book on Godzilla. Yes.

Awesome video Canuck! Def think we could use some more vids about why people should get into Godzilla

When I heard him saying "It takes place right before the first film" I was like..... that doesn't sound right? Especially because wasn't the first film supposed to be their first encounter with Godzilla? Like as in, the first time Japan had ever seen him? Maybe not, I'm not very familiar with this franchise to be honest, but if that's the case then wouldn't this be a massive plot hole/continuity error? And even ignoring that, I know for a fact that multiple continuities in Godzilla exist, with a great example being Shin Godzilla flat out ignoring the original movie, or the heisei era ignoring anything that ISN'T the original movie or movies inside it's own continuity.

Research is important. What I find interesting is how the context for the original Godzilla vs Kong being a satire is lost to time and you open up a whole new way to look at the movie by researching this and figuring it out. Just like many intuitively don't get that blazing saddles was mainly supposed to satarize the various tropes of westerns at the time. A modern audience not steeped in the context of the time mainly perceives it as a dark parody.

As someone who adored minus one and is hyped for gxk, this era of the Godzilla community is infuriating, let him be silly, cool and serious, you’re not a genius philosopher who needs to bash fun movies because they’re not deep

Disingenuous is really the word here. Judging a Hollywood movie solely by the final product is fine and all, but you're definitely judging more than just the creators there. The studio, the producers, the marketing department, and so on. But Gareth Edwards FOR SURE loves Godzilla. The movies might or might not be "soulless," but there definitely WAS soul and effort put INTO it. Like, regardless of the final product, saying he doesn't care about the most important movies in his career about a character he plainly likes is simply false.

I remember seeing Godzilla vs megalon on the coment tv network and when Godzilla did the drop kick my mother was like “this is stupid” meanwhile my dad was laughing 😂

I guess this is why sometimes things I don't usually hate nor leave a bad taste in my mouth would be that way. It's bc what I like just get thrown into the mud and thought to not needed nor wanted to exist. I kinda have a bit of a yuck whenever I see Minus One content probably cuz of this reason. Sometimes what you hate may not be the subject matter itself, but the people "defending" it. I'm not a gatekeeper nor am I unhappy that liking Godzilla no longer a niche quirky thing. In fact I'm rather glad that my fav atomic lizard is now more mainstream. But what I do hate about bringing in too much new "fans" is that some, although few but is louder, felt like a know-it-all and basically shitting on everything except for the new one that got them into the fanbase in the first place. I guess to a certain extent I agree with the idea of gatekeeping. That is to the extent that they needed to do their research or ask about the subject matter to the community. And ofc to keep out ppl who don't even care about the franchise and only "into it" cuz it's trendy. Yes, you can just casually enjoy Godzilla, or anything without being too invested. But if you don't even care about it in the slightest, yet actively turning potential real fan away from it, then I would prefer it if they got gatekeeped by the community.

When I was a kid I saw the original serious, cautionary tale Godzilla. I also loved the Godzilla as a good guy and fighting other monsters version. Today I like the serious political critiques of Shin Godzilla and Godzilla minus one, but also enjoy the fun escapism of the monsterverse Godzilla. Both have long historical track records. Both can exist and both hold special places in people's hearts.

The monsterverse is my favorite Godzilla franchise and it breaks my heart to see people hating on it so violently. 💔

The thing i love about godzilla is how many different takes of the character u can make. I personally live varity and godzilla series has a ton of it

Finally someone said it especially someone like you I’m so tired of this I don’t wanna look up Godzilla stuff because I see this stuff a lot of the time and d man made a video on this too (kinda)

this comment isn’t even about the general video i just love the comedy in 11:49

It is funny to me because I remember reading the writing process of King Kong vs Godzilla was them being handed "make this movie" by executives and then trying to figure out what they could do besides just have the characters fight, because it seemed so forced to them.

If we're being honest, most Godzilla movies aren't high cinema, but that's not why we watch them. I guess I'll have to farm clicks with my own response videos though 😆

These aren't real creators.

if the success of Minus One has triggered so many fake fans who are just looking for the scapegoat to attack the Monsterverse. It was much better that Minus One was only successful in Japan, at least they also appreciate the Monsterverse unlike Western KZfaqrs

i think they just do it to get clout and to stir the pot

I gave my friend who just got into godzilla a list of godzilla movies to see post minus one. any fan of godzilla would be overjoyed to help more people get into godzilla When people love something, watching tourists try to hijack it on a whim, is just painful. We welcome kaiju love all day, but lying about the franchise, or crapping all over it and having potential new fans believe such garbage takes does nothing more than damage what the actual fans have loved and supported through the years. Imo, that's why the whole fandom speaking on it when they see such takes is a good thing. It ensures that as many corners of the fandom as possible get the info, and encourages others to look at the movies for themselves to make their own judgements.

I saw Doktor Skipper write something contrite but he wasn’t apologizing.

As a fan for nearly 20 years of my life, I'm still learning more and more. If something I know about Godzilla that I find interesting, someone else who is a bigger fan than me and knows their stuff point out more about it. Channels like this make me feel like I'm not alone knowing about my favorite kaiju of all time. The other thing is when people point out the toxicity in the fandom and give no care about it, they act like the victim. Real fans don't mind new fans coming in, just learn more about the franchise and past it down to the next.