Can piccolo unlock the potential of nail and kami????

@@michaeljones5209 Yes he can

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Final Gohan = SSJ2+Mystic form,I like to think of it similar to gokus SSB+Kaioken form.

I think they had Piccolo change color because they felt sorry for him for not catching up with Goku. Just like people felt sorry for Gohan for not taking over the spotlight, and be the new hero in his father's place.

I now like how saiyans have growth spurts, or why gohan can't catch, and piccolo cant drive do to never getting his license 🤣

I agree! It was about time we got another DB movie that focused on other characters, and Super Hero was definitely a good one!

seen it twice and really debating on going one more time today lol

Appreciate you sharing

Agreed.

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Did you know that not all Cell Jrs were killed?

Call him the mitochondria because he's the powerhouse of cells

@@TheReecesl94 literally beat me to it

Gohon is consistently smoking all variety of good cell packs 😂

Interesting idea, I actually like that a lot! It ties in nicely to Gohan being tied to the Kaioshins too because they're the middle ground between Gods of Destruction and their Angels.

"white angelic hair", what bible are you reading? No angel has white hair. :D

@@NimerionTech We're talking about DB not the damn bible bro

Definitely was thinking the same thing! His speed and combat prowess reeks of UI. His overall bravado and battle hungry personality lines up with UE. His overall tone is reminiscent of SSJ2 but with the polish of Ultimate/Mystic Gohan.

Now Gohan and piccolo got the new form.its better they start the training and learn new ability.

You know how Oozaru are so powerful and get more and more anger. The Humans and Saiyans emotions are different the Saiyans was a savage race of power, pride and fighting in universe 7. Okay Humans have meaning different emotions mix the two you have a extreme power boost and Gohan. Who has become more enraged than any other character in the whole serie.

It's them P-Cells or smt. Vegeta was talking about them with Nappa, but the concept hasn't returned since them

Prolly why him and trunks really cool

Agreed, glad that it was foreshadowed!

Yea he stops being a fucking nerd for once in his pathetic boring life

Tell that to vegeta 😂

Interesting idea!

I love this and that ending got me laughing.

goku was also being lead towards UI his entire life, roshi taught him the true blue basics, mr.popo a being who was born in otherworld and sent to earth taught him to move faster than lightning but be as calm and quiet as the sky, korin taught him how to control his breathing, king kai taught him how to properly control ki (kai-o ken) and obviously whis taught him to try and allow his body to move on its own. and all of these masters also told him to build his mind as well as his body

Thats my opinion as well. But in my opinion its evolved version of potential unkeashed just like vegetas evolved ss blue. But this could be as well.

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Ik I couldn't be the only one

Before this came about I made a character similar called Gohan Mystic Rage

@@marhan1332 i think its the version of super saiyan 3 for gohan.

with the original purpse from toriama he had a shoter hair and white but in the anime they made a differnet version of ssj3 for goku

we've been waiting like 20 years

I’m sorry you’re so gay

Nice observation. Gohan DOES tend to get a bit cocky whenever he gets a significant power boost like this. Just goes to show that he's matured a lot since he first went Super Saiyan 2.

@@InnovativeJdawg Part of his cockiness here wasn't just his own power growth, it was the sheer gap in power between his current self and his opponent. Look at the way Gohan tanked Cell Max' full power punch and didn't budge a millimeter. I read somewhere that in the storyboard or Toriyama's notes or something that the reason Cell Max made that last ditch giant blast was out of terror of Gohan's Power. Beast Gohan is at least twice as powerful as Cell Max (who is enough more powerful than Broly that Broly would have no chance if Cell Max had a fully developed mind) but we honestly have no way to measure just how high that power gap really is

Noticed the exact same thing and got worried Gohan would fuck it up again like he did with perfect cell

Piccolo - dragons? 👀

@@afg99061 Piccolo: "RED FLAG!"

Interesting theory!

Or he may have learnt a lesson from dragon ball z and realised that he should probably kill cell before he does some other creepy shit

"that all u got......... MY TURNNNNN "

@@justajobro1266 sure man , but that being said I thought it could be that in this form we get to see more of his saiyan side to him flourish being battle hungry what have you, and being able to decisively kill his opponent. Where as the gohan we know suppresses a lot of his saiyan traits and is more human in nature. Hence his yin and Yang that ultimately makes him the one with the most potential as Vegita puts it the half saiyans..

Cell was almost a human being in a way he had a personality was able to talk and stuff but cell max was not he was actually a braindead savage which low key made him more like a monster so I understand why there wasn’t hesitation for gohan

Glad they both got the spotlight!

Piccolo slightly so. Wish he'd get another spot as at least #2 again but Vegeta is too popular. Really the db formula has been set since Z. New enemy, beat new enemy with new transformation or enough to wear them down, rinse and repeat. Db is stuck with this framework unfortunately

they should call him demon gohan not beast gohan

@@gill000012 but he's not possessed

@@NeonAnimeDreams it's appearance, not whether he's possessed. They ought to call him AF Gohan because it looks like something that would be in Dragon Ball AF lol

There's definitely a lot of fanservice in this movie and I love it. It's always great when a movie can incorporate plenty of fanservice but not have it overpower the plot.

Bro me and my son went and saw it twice. He’s 5 I watched all of these series when I was little when they just come out on TV like every Wednesday.. It was so crazy I teared up like five times one of the best endings to any movie I’ve ever seen

Yes you said it perfectly. I also give it a 10/10. I’m buying the Blu-ray soon as it releases and it’s going top shelf.

Gohan's back, and not just any Gohan, but the rageful and cocky Gohan from back in the day. I agree, I love it!

I love the idea that this may be a form only half sayains can achieve. It makes sense that sayain powers, added with non sayain power would have some sort of new form.

@@Poker2735 same, but cus of the name of the form it still taps into the primal instincts the Saiyans possess when they’re backed to a corner in a fight. Hence introducing, Beast Gohan!

​@@xenoshiftgaming_officialto be more accurate this form tap into the primal wild beast that's seeping inside gohan all this time, since gohan since his birth have his power related so much with anger, it's like this since his childhood, the moment he get angry for some reasons his power levels rise so much, and in super hero he finally able to unleash his inner beast complete and achieved his own form, gohan beast. So this form may be unique for gohan, even if trunks and goten got ultimate form, they may not get beast form because its just this something unique for gohan you can say it's something like how broly born with special talents no one have

That could be like a multiplier of 2 to 6 million.

It’s likely to be the manifestation of his rage and infinite potential. A natural progression in his “transformation “ tree.

You forgot to include mystic as well

Yeah that is what I am thinking as well, he has channeled his ki over the base of an ultimate form

I like to think this new form is a combination of gohans mystic ki and god ki but that’s impossible

It was a great moment for sure

I agree.

Agreed

What different abilities?

i agree

This isn’t solving power creep. It’s just adding to it. They do look cool tho.

Oozaru Gohan.

I mean he rages against raditz its always been there

Exactly 😃

@@loganmatthews5956 Very true it’s always been there back in the day they called it unlocked potential Gohan.

Gohan has been raging his ass off since he was a baby in a stroller up to his adult🤣. Tree? Mountain? Raditz? Nappa? Vegeta? Frieza? Cell? Cell max?

I like to call it dragon king piccolo, seeing as he got the power from shenron and he was once a demon king

nah orange

I wouldn't be surprised if Orange Piccolo got another name later on down the line, it happened to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. But maybe this time, rather than simplifying the name, they should take the time and make it sound more "cool" and "official" Orange Piccolo is a fine name I guess, but Ajisa would be pretty cool.

I was thinking Namekian God

It's a safe bet we'll see it again in the future! I just hope we learn more about it

gohan "blanco"

The funny thing is if he had magical tequila before with knowing it was magical then this is true blanco

Beast not blanco

@@joshuavasquez7603 Fans of the Spanish Dub for the series have called him Gohan Blanco for many years ever since his concept fan art was first introduced. But yeah I understand his canon name is Gohan Beast. I just really like the Spanish dub name better 😜✌️

Its just Ultra Instinct, there is no autonomous. Also, Goku's hair in MUI form is sipver not white but you're right Toriyama did have white haired form planned.

@@ladslounge2698 For Fusion Zamasu & Gohan Beast. Hopefully Vegeta gets a white haired transformation. Vegeta hasn't even come close to perfecting his Ultra Ego.

@@ladslounge2698 all anal.

Yeah Gohan was positioned to take over the mantle as protagonist but then took a back seat again. Glad to see he's still getting some spotlight though!

@@InnovativeJdawg I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been a devoted Gohan fan since Day 1 and have been watching DBZ since I can remember as a little kid. It was my very first anime that my mom introduced to me through her experience of watching DB as a teen

@@z4ck_fr4gzz0ut3 Yup, literally grew up with Gohan.

Toriyama was struggling to make Gohan as engaging to follow as Goku in the Buu arc. So he made the choice to bring Goku back and push Gohan to the side.

When I saw the movie in theaters, there were a few people who got extremely hype over it because they hadn't seen the spoilers. It was a great experience, I loved seeing everybody get hype for Gohan again

Agreed! It's very interesting to see how different methods lead to different results.

Yeah we need info on what this form actually is. Because rn it just feels like Toriyamas giving characters transformations regardless of whether or not they actually make sense.

No that will most likely be Broly, he has the humanoid Great Ape form already. Gohan said he wants to evolve as a human, not a Saiyan.

Gohan and Broly seem to be the two most likely candidates for a canonical version of Super Saiyan 4. Regardless of who gets it, it would be really cool to see them interact and train with each other.

@@mohitnair2541 but he has the best potential.

@@InnovativeJdawg I think Legendary SSJ/SSJ4 Gohan/ Ui Goku & Ue Vegeta is a crazy line up. Even throw black Frieza in there. Lol.

@@Moshuun his potential comes from his human side, not his Saiyan side. going the SSJ4 route and using Oozaru would go against that. he doesn't need Oozaru to be strong, his own unlocked potential is enough.

this is the correct explanation, Toriyama said Beast is based on the sort of awakenings Gohan had as a boy. So it's likely Ultimate multiplied by his rage ability from when he was a kid.

@@mohitnair2541 also a theory that gohans mystic form is a similar version of gokus ultra Instinct because both transformations is a form of the angels. via the white hair. i believe that when gohan uses base mystic (black hair) hes very calm and pesise in his fighting style like goku in UI omen (again black hair). however gohans new mystic form is different because he also has rage which gives him that purple aura like the gods of destruction. so maybe "beast gohan" is perfect mix between the two (angel form and god of destruction). it could be because hes had his protential unleashed several times which is why he can achieve that form. also his human side gives a edge as well.

I like that idea of this form being the physical embodiment of Gohan controlling his rage and turning it into something to amplify his full potential.

@@InnovativeJdawg exactly, this form is Gohan's power and character in one form. He always struggled with releasing his true power, and whenever he did he couldn't control it. This form lets him do both.

He also explained that he was training for something other than super saiyan, hence how he reached this form and not a new super sayain form like he did with super sayain 2,

Being forced into fighting against his own free will, and not being allowed to make his own choices in life. Not to mention, being afraid of his powers after loosing control and causing the death of his dad. That can all be understandable.

​​@@dreamguardian8320 he wanted to go to namek and fight. He didn't want to fight in the Saiyan saga end of story

I remember Piccolo going Giant/Super Namek even if it was not called that in Dragon Ball. An see him going Giant/Super Namek in the movie that was one of the great moments.

Especially how he's treated in super, of all characters Piccolo needed a power boost

@@Th3SP1C I Agree.

I got emotional like 15 times during the whole movie and I saw three times in one weekend, Took my son with me all three times he loved every minute of it

@@thanosbustedinyourmum What made you so emotional? An it is great to hear your son enjoys what you do.

Thank you!

Agreed!

I first watched DBZ back in the Mid 90s... It was on the planet namek saga before Goku showed up. Gohan was the main character in the episode I watched. This movie brought me back there.

That's actually pretty interesting!

The hidden power of the ox king. Ox in the box reveals his true power

@@basimali619 funny enough in one source (tree of might reference pamphlet I think, could be wrong) Ox King's power level is listed at 900

You know I completely forgot about that

That would be a really cool story concept actually.

I would love that concept then goku basically having power of an angel without actually being an angel lol.

And they would be strongest god and Kai’s cause they would be equal in power and goku their Angel would be crazy and frieza the strongest warrior lol

Can you "become" a Kai though? They are supposed to be born from some divine tree right?

@@digitaladventurer2142 you might be right , however it may be an alternate ritual they may create 🤷🏾‍♂️ the writers always find ways

SSJ5 definitely seems to be the main inspiration behind the form's design

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That's a nice theory! It would be pretty cool for there to be god slayer type forms in the series.

What? Makes no sense

Ahh yes Mr Satan

Agreed! I loved the movie too and I can't wait to see more of Gohan and Piccolo

Where I will be able to see that next year?

You know you're onto something! Like what if this is ss2 mixed with ultimate Gohan form. Like how goku uses blue and Kioken x20

I'm pretty sure most of us have come to this conclusion already

I thought it was because he was finally able the befriend the Kyuubi Kurama

That's a nice way of looking at it, I actually thought that way too when I first learned about the form. Probably not the exact same thing as SSJB being the "SSJ" version of Super Saiyan God, but maybe the concept is the same. Gohan going Super Saiyan ON TOP of his Ultimate form.

It’s probably a mix of Ultimate Gohan, Super Saiyan, and Gohan’s rage boosts. Like I think it’d make sense if he could only access this form while really pissed off and with no inhibitions.

I still hate that they didn't call the Red form just Saiyan God, so Blue would just be Super Saiyan God.

@@someryebread agreed would’ve made it so much less needlessly complicated

Thanks for the comment!

I kinda like this new direction Dragon Ball is going. It's something fresh!

I personally thought the fanservice was balanced well enough with the plot and I enjoyed a large chunk of the movie. The beginning felt a bit slow, but I thought the ending was alright

Thanks!

I thought the same thing! It's basically Gohan transforming into a new power on top of the Ultimate form.

(There is a TLDR at the bottom) Honestly, my initial though was that he was similar to Broly. Broly is the legendary super saiyan with incredible potential. My thoughts are that Gohans form is something kinda similar, the difference in biology being the reason his form is different. The first reason for this is that, despite both goten and trunks being literal prodigies, both going super saiyan at the ripe ages of 3 and 4, no one talks about their “untapped potential to be the strongest”. Yet this has been repeatedly stated about Gohan, much like people say the same thing about Broly. This makes me think that perhaps Gohan is some sort of legendary half-saiyan. The second reason is because the both have some connection to the great ape form. When Gohan first goes SSJ2 against cell, there is a faint sound of an great ape roar in the background of his yell. It has been stated in DBS: Broly that Broly taps into the great ape form without Turning into a great ape. Beast gohan is clearly a spin on super saiyan 2, which is linked to the great ape. This leads me to think that perhaps this beast form is how gohan is taping into the power of the great ape without turning into one. It would also then make even more sense why his form is called beast gohan. The last reason is because of the places their powers go to. Goku’s ultra instinct is similar to the angel’s power, and Vegeta’s ultra ego similar to the god of destructions powers. Yet both Broly and Gohan, (though Gohans form does look similar to ultra instinct) have no power that they lead into. There are several gods of destruction, and several angels, but only 1 legendary saiyan (in their universe, I keep forgetting Kefla exists) and only 1 beast saiyan. These 2 are one of a kind powers that nobody has seen. A point against this theory is that gohan looks like ultra instinct, so maybe he is just taping into that. The only real counter point to that is flimsy, just that if it was ultra instinct it would be called ultra instinct. Maybe this is ultra instinct and something else combined, a power combination we have only seen gohan do to lead to beast saiyan form. All in all, this is just my little theory on what it is. If gohan isn’t some legendary half-saiyan, it make me hope we will get to see goten and trunks, and see a movie where they get a unique form, even if it isn’t insanely strong. Also, why does no one talk about how they are literal prodigies? Like they achieved something incredible for fun, and Goku nor Vegeta talk about it. Like come on man, show my boys some love for cryin out loud TL:DR: my theory is that gohan is some sort of legendary half-saiyan, just like Broly is the legendary saiyan

@@theepheonix1700 Honestly this theory makes sense to me. Especially when thinking back to all the times when Gohan has gotten stronger or gotten back into the world of fighting with a few days or hours in Dragon Ball Super's case. A Legendary Half-Saiyan sounds really cool!

@@theepheonix1700 the ultra instinct theory makes no sense. He doesn’t display any of the properties of the technique. It’s more so an upgraded ultimate form.

@@gammafrost I thought the same thing, but you know. Wanted to be fair an all

I feel like Super Saiyan Rage was Trunks' variation of this form, we just couldn't see it until now

I don't necessarily mean that he'll become a Kaioshin, I just think it's a nice nod to have this form colored after them. The Kaioshins were responsible for unlocking his potential, so in a way, they could be considered Gohan's "teacher" just like how Goku and Vegeta have their forms colored after their respective teachers.

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The creator said Gohan was stronger than both Vegeta and goku

@@darthchubbz5668 you know that Akira says a lot of shit that doesn't make sense about his own work (it's a old man after all). Also, he never specified in wich form of Goku and Vegeta he surpasses. Akira also said that Orange Piccolo is at Goku/Vegeta level now. Do you honestly believe that Piccolo is MUI/UE level?

@@TheMarceloSH yeah, mui Goku is already trash tier in the manga, and superhero is set after that. I honestly don't like the movie, just for the cannon stuff. It doesn't make any sense, and I think it's stupid Gohan had a random power up because piccolo got punched. And piccolo getting a random power up from shenron. Like they never thought to do that before? But it doesn't matter, the creator said it's cannon and says piccolo is as strong as Vegeta and goku

It's always possible, you never know

But we don't even know if it's stronger than ultra instinct yet.

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Glad you enjoyed it!

It definitely has similarities to the color scheme of Baby Vegeta!

True, glad to see it!

Nah. Gohan got back his mystic form after he trained with piccolo and goku. Gohan at age 11 was already stronger than ssj goku and vegeta and was the only one to get ssj2 for years! Until the buu saga came and vegeta and goku mastered ssj2 and goku with 3. Even then it was stated Mystic Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 goku. Gohan always had the potential piccolo stressed this a thousand times in the movie. Gohan knocked out radiz with a head but at the age of 6. Listen to your self my man. Gohan not suppose to be himself and be the OP character Goku risked his life for Gohan to achieve?

I agree that sometimes, it sucks that Gohan (and Future Trunks to an extent) can just asspull forms and become stronger than the characters who train each and every day. But I can also see that there's big story significance behind each time they asspull a form because they're hybrid saiyans and are known to have higher potential.

@@JAllenProductions i believe he was 3 when he took out Raditz

Its the same with frieza if I'm honest he trained for 6 months n got to ssb level from being just ss level. Now he even has his new black form that's stronger then ui goku. So gohan gettin his flowers doesn't bother me.

@@suttonspeshul5585 frieza only trained for four months. For the black form he trained for 10 years

Gohan would be Grand Priest level or a little higher making him a threat and Pan having hidden power like her dad. Also makes her a threat which would lead to the Z Fighters having to fight the G.O.D. and Angels. But somehow they would have to reason with Zeno showing they are not a threat that is why I see the movie also as non-canon.

Orange Piccolo being SSB or Golden Frieza level seems reasonable, I like that idea. Beast Gohan being on the tier of the stronger characters is also very realistic, so seems like you're right!

No not really yellow..The Gamma we're stated to rival Goku and Vegeta... orange Piccolo is beyond blue Goku and Vegeta and even put somewhat of fight against Cell Max. So Orange Piccolo Would Be as Strong as Broly from the previous film

@@darkdesireharvest7013 Gohan is not Grand Priest level, this is literally insane.

@@mohitnair2541 Really have you forgot the tournament of power how everyone was getting high insane power ups.

I'd like to see Black Frieza vs Gohan Beast, that would be a fun matchup

@@InnovativeJdawg I think that is what is coming Gohan battled Freeza as a kid. An Freeza feared his power and was going to kill Gohan as a kid cause Gohan hurt him.

Possibly, but Gohan doesn't really have any connection to god ki. It's possible that the energy comes from the life link shared between the Kaioshins and the Gods of Destruction, but who knows

That's a cool concept, a form taking over the mind of the user. We've kinda seen it with the SSJ Berserk form in Dragon Ball Heroes, but that'd be a cool thing to see at some point in the main series.

@@InnovativeJdawg the concept of a villain taking over the body of a Z fighter has been used in both Dragon Ball Super & GT: DRAGON BALL SUPER Zamasu, the villain of the Future Trunks arc took over the body of a Goku from an unknown timeline using the Super Dragon Balls DRAGON BALL GT Baby, a machine mutant Tuffle parasite born on planet M2 took over the body of Vegeta & possessed most of the Dragon Team

@@joshualowe959 I know. I’m not talking about a different character taking over the body of a hero. I’m talking about a form corrupting the mind of a hero and making them act evil. Like Majin Vegeta, but to a higher extent

The gohan analogue for goku black. Gohan white maybe? Aka… Gohan Blanco

I love that idea

It’s manga not animated yet

After the Tournament of Power, which is where the anime ended, the Dragon Ball Super manga never ended, so there's been two more story arcs that anime-watchers haven't seen yet. The Moro arc and the Granolah Arcs haven't been animated yet, so I highly recommend checking out the manga if you haven't. The Moro Arc starts on Chapter 42.

Nice, hope you enjoyed the movie with them!

That seems to be a likely answer

Agreed! It seems to be the next step of the Ultimate form.

Gohan Beast is definitely a weird name, but I feel like it'll grow on me lol

I would of called it ultimate rage like super sayian rage

I think it actually would've been better if Gohan Beast was activated out of Gohan thinking Pan died during that purple blast sequence. It would've been nice if we didn't know she survived, then Gohan transformed, and then when the fight is over we see Pan flying successfully.

@@InnovativeJdawg Exactly! Anything but what they gave us. Especially because the movies was already leaked. At least give us some scare or shock value

Haven't seen Love and Thunder yet, but I agree that Super Hero was funny at points!

I know, makes me want to Goku-coo!

That's a good idea! I was thinking at one point that maybe it's to his Ultimate form what SSJ Blue is to SSJ God, a step above it where he transforms on top of the potential he already unlocked.

@@InnovativeJdawg Thanks

Yeah he did, but it's most likely that the Elder Kai only drew forth potential he had at the time. In reality, as long as Dragon Ball continues, the story will find ways for Gohan to keep breaking through his limits even if it seems like he's already reached the peak of them. The best way of explaining Gohan Beast is that he had his powers awakened in the past and this time around, he got so angry and just broke into a new realm of opportunity just like what happened when he transformed into a Super Saiyan 2 against Cell. Everybody thought the basic Super Saiyan form and it's extended grades were the strongest Saiyans could get, but Gohan proved that wrong and broke into something new

Agreed!

I agree . I feel like his new form comes from being able to go super on top of his ultimate form blessed by the kais resulting in beast Gohan,similar to how goku and vagetas blue form is a result of going super while in red god ki . Just a guess tho.

Agreed, I love all the references to superhero literature and culture in the movie

Agreed! I love when Piccolo is an important character, so this movie definitely delivered on that.

Agreed! Every little thing about the form and the sequence it was used in was great

I agree, there's still a lot of mystery behind Gohan Beast so I'm hoping we learn more about it as time goes on.

Agreed!

Thank you! Also those would be cool

It's most likely a similar concept. He transformed as a result of rage, so his power broke through the potential that was already unlocked by the Kaioshins.