guess its my turn also sorry for the weird editing, i'm gonna get slapped up if i put too much super hero footage in yknow how it is for those trying to argue cell max was already completed. this is not what toriyama was referencing in his comment, toriyama references cell as "he needed to be completed as planned" which is in reference to cell being let out too early before his mind and other things were constructed and or programmed, making him not "completed as planned" hope that is common sense lol

Gohans that guy who has never worked out and still lifts more than you who goes to the gym daily

Gohan is the literal definition of "That Son"

Moral of the story: If you want to win a fight easily just let the enemy kill piccolo and you will see Beast Gohan scurrying behind

Gohan constantly surpasses everyone with little to no effort and very quickly This leads me to believe his power Is insane and will be amazing to see in the future

Honestly with how Gohan and Freiza interacted in the ToP with some hostility toward one another. I wouldn't be surprised if they're setting up a battle between the two in the next arc. Based on the color choices alone of their new transformations, it makes sense. Black vs White, both characters never really like training but now that they've both trained again they get new forms, both have crazy potentials, I mean......am I the only one seeing the duality of the situation between the characters???

I think Chi Chi’s strong will to protect , is why Gohan can power leap so quickly, Vegeta already said half bred Saiyans have more potential but Chi chi is one of the strongest humans and we all know Gohans true potential shows when he is forced to protect his friends and family unlike Goku who just purely wants to push himself

Personally I think its a way to get some of the OG's back into the fold. I like the idea that piccolo and gohan are back on the level and are able to fight heavy hitters with more ease now, as well I like the idea that Broly could be a more regular member around the series with the potential to usurp the destroyer title from vegeta as to me it'd be a logical and actual good idea.

“We all forgot gohan was just…like that” is the best way to describe it 😂 he’s him, enough said

I love the smirk Gohan gave after seeing Cell Max charge up a huge energy ball. Man was so cocky and wanted to keep fighting just like against perfect cell.

The way i see it is gohan is the frieza for saiyans. A being born with a massive amount of sheer potential and raw talent that demands respecting. I just hope super hero is the start of gohan being that guy again.

In the moro arc after two months of training Gohan is said to be almost unrecognizable by Goku. Then after Moro rips his arm through Goku, Gohan rages out and Moro acknowledges that Gohan got a power boost but not enough to fight him. So if Gohan did some light training between Moro and Superhero then the power boost he gets is a little less extreme of a jump.

I've always been a huge fan of Gohan since I was a kid and I always took his latent potential as a metaphor for believing in yourself. Gohan was always timid and cowardice and felt he could never be as good as his dad or the other Z fighters. It's only when he is backed into a corner does he find the strength to prove himself a true warrior. I also believe Gohan's entire persona can be taken as a metaphor for the duality of man. The constant struggle of being a man and a beast. A human and a saiyan. I'm not saying any of this this is fact, these thoughts are merely based on my idea of Gohan. I could be wrong but isn't Gohan the only Hybrid to have been born with a tail? I wonder if that has anything to do with his latent potential. If I'm correct I think Gohan's powers are also a genetic anomaly. I dunno, food for thought...

What I liked of the movie was “the sins of a father” sub plot line that no one is talking about. Everything in this movie is dealing with a fathers past and how a fathers past (or even grandfather) significantly caused the actions for this film. From Goku to Gohan.Gohan to Pan. And everything with the RR army.

It's always funny to me how in the Dragonball universe a random scientist can just make cyborgs that are basically more powerful than almost every being in the universe casually and with infinite stamina

That's the thing that people don't understand about Gohan - it is his potential that is unreal, and he may not be stronger on a base level than others, but his ability to get stronger is WAY easier and faster than anyone else, and he can reach heights higher in less time and with more precision than anyone else.

Gohan is just built different and they seem to forget this so damn often.

him being the strongest actually makes sense. Back in the latest chapter Goku asks Whis if the strongest was Frieza but instead of saying yes or no, he says "hmm perhaps the strongest warrior has emerged elsewhere" Its very possible that Goku and vegeta don't know of Gohan's strength since they are gone for long periods at a time

Gohans anger boosts have always been insane, and we haven't really gotten a proper one since his Cell fight. He got stronger from the time of Cell through his potential being unleased and further training with Piccolo before the TOP to the level of gods, so honestly its not that surprising that after getting another anger boost with that insane base power already there that he would skyrocket above the levels everyone else was at.

That's good to know Superhero's placement in the DB timeline. So, we'll have a long way to go before Gohan Beast and Orange Piccolo are in the anime. So excited for the anime to return. Gohan my favorite character outside of Vegeta. Dude is such a monster and I love his Gohan Beast form.

I’m interested if they will show Gohan unlocking Beast pre-the big fight in the manga. Throughout the movie Piccolo assumed Gohan wasn’t training enough but Gohan was adamant that he was okay the whole time, as relaxed as he was. When he turned beast he seemed to know that he could do it, wasn’t shocked about achieving that level of strength or anything so I feel like he’s done it before. Anyway, good video!

I just imagine that if Max Cell didn't broke out of his chamber, we would have seen his perfect form.

Love that my boy piccolo got some much needed attention. He deserved the power up and it actually makes sense

It makes sense cause Gohan was always told to release his inner strength cause when he does, he really does become a beast. His potential really is unlimited

Beast Gohan seems to be Ultimate Gohans' true form basically this is the Gohan we wanted and needed Gohan was always my favorite and they gave him his justice he needed

I think it's because Gohan is one of the few that has real human emotion in this show... and he is just very emotional guy to begin with. Makes sense since he is half human. The others kinda feel like robots when it comes to emotion. I think he taps into that human emotional state to easily raise his big burst power. Since that's what seems to happen when the others get emotional. Thats usually when they get a new form.

I always thought it was weird how Goku and Vegeta were seen as the two strongest during the buu saga yet Gohan clearly surpassed them in his ultimate form

Son “ too angry to care about the power gap “ Gohan

I like how you point out the numerous inconsistencies as you go along. Just so those of us who see all the power rankings as bullshit don't feel left out.

Cell Max's capsure seems to be sucking energy from the planet's core, which makes me wonder...what if after Moro fused with the planet and got killed, a lot of leftover energy was left in there? The Red Ribbon army most likely watched that battle take place, so they might be harnessing that power for their strongest creation. Makes sense, especially because the way Cell Max behaves, it's like his body contains WAY more energy than what he can handle.

Amazing content bro, Gohan defines potential

I think they meant the "Strongest Battle in Earth's History" which makes sense. I would say it outclassed Beerus vs Goku only because Beerus never took the fight seriously and held back the entire time. I also agree that Piccolo was comparing the androids to SSB Goku & Vegeta as it is really hard to quantify UI or UE since the user's mental or physical state determine their power respectively.

gohan has always been so OP and has to do literally almost no training as he constantly surpasses everyone else in power by leaps and bounds while everyone else is constantly training to get where they are now.

I look at Gohan as a civilized Broly. He's just got a peaceful nature and is well trained. Those historic power jumps are insane and it happens every time. Raditz, Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, Buu, pre ToP Goku Blue. When on the line he's jumped leagues in an instant. Although I think there's enough evidence to suggest he was secretly training before the ToP. At least in the manga

bros favorite character is pan

Amazing video thank you for making it 👍

Gohan beast is honestly one of the most thought out named transformations in the series. If you watch Z, the narrator describes gohans hidden power as the “beast within” multiple times. So to go that far back in the lore, the name sticks, and it sticks well.

Freaking loved it when his saiyan instincts kicked in when cell condensed the nuke and he smiles at it like he’s fired up

awesome video. very well done and informative !

Seen this video more than once. Love the format, keep it up dude!

This is the Gohan we should have always gotten. The one who never gave up training and was so angry and grief stricken by his father's death, he vowed to never be surpassed by *anyone* again.

he’s strong

When I saw this movie I was so so hyped seeing that transformation and when he smiled like he was evil just made it 100x better

Gohans biggest issue has always been his ego. Once he knows he has the upper hand, he almost always gives the fight away by getting cocky. With his new found Beast Mode being unlike anything we’ve seen I’m hoping he can get his emotions in check, otherwise he’ll likely throw his fight again.

I liked this movie and this new form because it’s a lot like the inconsequential DBZ movies to fan service the series. I mean even the form itself is SSJ2 Adult Gohan but with the limited Manga colors which is awesome.

Something I really liked was the divide that cut through the screen when he went Beast Mode. It's such a blatant callback to SSj2 but the idea that it's a consistent visual whenever Gohan shatters his limits through rage is really cool to think about.

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It's insane how Gohans power can just jump into big heights without intensely training as hard as his dad does and surpasses him and everyone else no problem

I'm still in disbelief about the leap that Gohan took without any sort of training or anything. Call it fanservice or bad writing, but it just feels wild, even more so than when Broly did it in his movie.

While I appreciate the chance for other characters to shine, the power scaling in Dragon Ball went from absolutely ridiculous and nonsensical to I-don't-even-have-an-adjective-for-this-anymore in this movie.

Your stuff is awesome I'm a fan thanks man

I'm so glad Gohan gets his due strength again. Goku, Vegeta, and many more have commented several times on how Gohan has the greatest potential out of all saiyans.

When I saw how Gohan tanked the attack from Cell Max that did it for me. Gogeta Blue was clashing with Broly but, the gap between Gohan and Cell seemed way more massive.

Fan service aside, I am honestly loving that more characters are becoming relevant like this

All Y'all in the comments talk to much. It's simple I got the answers. Gohan" Hes just built different.

Gohans power depends incredibly on his emotions. Imagine if he had a suffering-builds-character arc like Guts from Berserk, he'd probably one shot all angels and gods of destruction of all universes in one basic Ki Attack.

I love how the movie's been advertised as Gohan's big comeback when it's really Piccolo trying to get Gohan back in shape for the entire movie for him to kick things up a notch at the climax. Still a great movie, definitely wanna watch it again subbed.

If Cell-Max had perfect Cell's regeneration, this fight would've been allot different...

I always took it like this: Life has a funny way of balancing things. Saiyajins have some of the strongest potential in the series, if not the strongest period - but this power is unlocked seemingly through emotion, and the species itself is almost caveman like in temperment. Even with the scientists, in general they see physical strength and power as a representation of their worth. When it comes to emotion, they don't completely lack it and I won't go so far as to say they see it as a weakness, but bottom line is I don't think they perceive it the way Humans do or really understand it. There's a genetic thing there where they are more feral despite being civilized beyond a wild animal. This is pretty obvious given the contrast between Vegeta, and Goku, who is himself something of an exception because...well, he literally has brain damage. He was a crazy, angry, normal Saiyajin child until he fell on his head and suddenly became a loving "son" for Grandpa Gohan and basically grew up into the aloof derp chad we know today. As a result of this, Goku, despite still struggling with basic emotion and basic every day life like Driving and such, still tries to protect his family and explodes with anger when people he loves are hurt or killed, such as Krillin's death to Frieza triggering his SSJ transformation. Vegeta on the other hand, a full blooded saiyajin with the upbringing of one and no brain damage (lol), literally states he could not comprehend how Goku did it and that he even originally started a family as an attempt to form a connection similar to Goku and his loved ones in hopes that it would help him trigger the transformation as well, and it did basically nothing for him all the way until Beerus put hands on Bulma. He even casually kills Nappa because he lost to Goku, and these dudes grew up together. Also didn't give a damn about Raditz either. Vegeta is something of an exception and is pretty cold even among his own species, but they are mostly pretty much all that way. Humans on the other hand are very emotional, but physically weak by comparison. Not quite opposites to Saiyajins, but pretty close. Because of this, they rely on technique and spirit instead of strength and raw power - this is another thing that heavily influenced Goku and why he is so strong. He is somewhat of a representation of both worlds, as a result of his head injury as a child and the upbringing that came after that. All the raw power of a Saiyajin, with the techniques of Humans and capable of more emotion and connections, stunted as they still are, than the rest of his species. Gohan however is the literal representation of this, being a half breed. Essentially he is the "All of their strengths, none of their weaknesses" trope - All of the power and potential of a full blooded Saiyajin, with the unhindered emotions of a Human fueling the power.

Gohan's always been my favorite character from DBZ... I'm glad they are finally giving him his roses again

I honestly don’t mind Gohan being the strongest, but it had to be done in a believable and legitimate manner. This current era of Dragon Ball is just giving characters asspull power ups that make zero sense.

It’s good to finally see Gohan get the recognition he deserves after years and years of slander.

great video and Gohan for the win

Gohan is the allen iverson of dragon ball… the guy who dosent work on his craft much but will still drop u off while dropping 40 and makes it look somewhat effortless

I think Gohan achieving this level of power is a testament to procrastination and what you can do when you actually apply yourself. Dude hardly tried throughout the series whereas his peers trained for years to get to a similar level. There’s more potential in some of us than we realize but we have to find that motivation and draw that power from within. Also from a father/daughter perspective it really shows where strength can come from when it comes to your loved ones. I’m coming around to this movie slowly.

I love how when I went to see this movie, how comically LARGE Gohan's hair was, I only focused on that for a solid minute.

Huge fan of the series like before it became famous but you nailed it

THAT MYSTIC GOHAN THEME IN THE BACKGROUND IS 🔥🔥🔥

It feels really weird that Gohan, after not training for a few years after the ToP, he gets a form that pretty much is only there to bring him back up with the top tiers. It's still really cool that he got a new form, but it really felt forced, I think it'd be better if he trained just a little. Because keep in mind, he did no training, at all, and then got stronger than basically everybody. It just really doesn't feel earned. I like the form, but it just doesn't have any worth to it. UE was awesome to see because Vegeta was training for a long time and didn't really show off much until then, it felt earned mostly because we knew he had something in store, or something he was preparing to show off. I hope this clears up what might've seemed like me hating on Gohan's new form.

can we just take a moment to step back and realize just how absurd this whole thing has gotten?

I love this guys serious/humor

I was talking about this all this time, they just made the fan made Gohan Blanco, canon haha! I just wish they just had him stay with black hair but as blown out as his Beast mode and just red eyes. After all Gohan stated before that he wants to attain another level using his human blood side.

Gohan has always been referred to or had symbolism pertaining to a wild animal or "beast" both visually and when talking about his power ups. Gohan was clearly going through ptsd seeing himself as helpless and about to lose a father figure/best friend/godfather to his kid against an enemy that he had already gone through hell as a kid to beat who killed not only someone he looked up to greatly at the time (android 16) but also took his father's life. He was going through that again with piccolo. Like cmon im tired of the whole "gohan beast doesn't make sense"

"Gohan stomps Vegeta, Goku and Beerus 3vs1!" Lol? Seth, please, go to sleep.

Great video man

This video pretty much cleared the whole movie up for me

Guys, don't be mad when Gohan is gonna be irrelevant again after this movie. You know it's true.

The craziest thing that always blows my mind about dbz. Is how humans with prep time can create beings that can rival Gods.

Return of the GOAT

Well made

I think the statement of Cell Max being incomplete has to do with his mind state and that he is still just as powerful as himself if he were to be complete

Awesome video as always! I'm glad to see my boi Gohan get the glow up he deserves

Thanks for clearing all this up cuz I don’t read the mangas, I just watch the movies and episodes so I’m lost with the Moro and black frieza stuff goin on right now

this is the treatment that gohan has always deserved and it's great that its finally happening. We didn't all cry when 16 was stepped on for nothing!

I’m so happy gohan is relevant again

So I can follow the logic of saiyan having infinite potential with training and near death fights, but how did a human create anything close to universal level? Like where do they even get the energy source to create the attacks

You can't escape Seth no matter what you do we'll haunt you

Just saw it today loved it and how they made Gohan a beast again

I'm glad to see more content you are my favorite KZfaqr

Man, how nice it is to see all of Goku and Vegeta's training and progress get thrown into the dumpster one arc after another.

That smile Gohan did against Cell when he punched him has to be the most menacing shit I have ever seen, and even proceeds to say, and I quote, "Is that all you got?" (if I remember correctly}

Love this movie. It actually made interested in DB again

Loved this movie, Pan was so damn adorable in it and I can't wait to see her in the anime, also Orange Piccolo and Gohan beast despite how goofy they are, are cool af. The story wasn't bad either and I hope this means that the anime will start putting respect on Gohan's name and have him continue training in-between doing his work. Instead of them just sending Gohan back to being a nerd who doesn't train at all and loses all his power, Also I hope orange piccolo is a permanent form that Piccolo can transform into so he can stay a relevant fighter. Biggest gripe with the movie is how the dragonballs and Goku are treated. Edit: I'm hoping that piccolo basically confirming that even in verse that the dragonballs are being disrespected means we'll hopefully get some kind of shadow dragon saga and maybe SSJ4 or summin.

This movie was for the OG Gohan fans, whose honestly is probably a lot of peoples first and favorite anime character. RIP for those who never got to watch the movie. If Gohan is this OP I may have to start reading the manga. Great Vid Seth

I love it when you use the word "fold" to describe an ass whoopin'. That made my day. 🤣

Popo’s training: pecking order

As a Piccolo fan, I loved this movie. It’s what I’ve been waiting for for years.

Gohans the definition of when that nice guy gets angry

Gohan white Goku Black Goku Blue Orange Picolo Black Freeza, gold freeza Very creative naming scheme they got in super.

Gohan will forever be the peak of hidden potential in the series but my boy keeps getting shafted, till this movie.