Link to the original video describing the problem: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7B4g656tLHIeYk.html

The Goldwing DCT has been around for 6 model years with thousands produced and ONE customer has a repeated problem and now the DCT is crap. Give me a break.

I've had my 2019 DCT Tour going on 3 years now and I learned that I needed to practice all the time just to understand that "friction zone"...around 3-5 mph and yes, dragging the rear brake. Above that speed the clutch is engaged fully. The bike has a clutch overheat light on the dash...I've never seen it on while practicing. I am seriously doubting how much brake and throttle this gentlemen was giving this clutch pack in order to smoke two of them in 3 weeks... this has to be rider error, sorry but there are SO many of these out there without problems like this...

Since I have owned my 2020 DCT Tour, I have not heard even one major issues with the DCT. You can push so much on any mechanical devise on this planet before something will go wrong. Some riders have already 100K on an 18 DCT and zero issues. I have no doubt that my DCT will survive many...many miles ahead. I am not worried a bit. Yes, everything has limitations, the DCT too. Don't push it and you will be fine. Also, It says in the manual, if park uphill, do not use the DCT as a holding mechanism to stop the bike, HILL ASSIST must be used or either brake. That alone explain. I can't blame HONDA at all!!! They are not stupid. To all, don't have doubts owning a DCT or buying one. I have 15K on mine with ZERO issues.

We have a ton of dcts around here, 0 issues what so ever. We are all hearing this from one side. So now because of this one issue with one bike, it drams all dcts no good😂🤷‍♂️🙈

Ok, I think most people agree that slow speed maneuvers being done all the time is extremely hard on any motorcycle clutch whether or not it's an automatic or standard, because you have to use the friction zone and rear brake most of the time. I've watched and learned a lot watching Jerry Palladino and Robert Simmons (very skilled retired motor officers), but doing it all the time they often have to upgrade the clutch and rear brake. The wing is very nimble, I'm 72 years old and have no trouble doing a quick u turn but have no interest in destroying my motorcycle burning up a clutch so I can brag about how slow I can maneuver it

Before this issue was discussed, I practiced slow speed maneuvers many times on my 2021 DCT GoldWing, however, I always turned off the automatic shifting and used the paddle shifters only, so it would stay in first or second. I think this makes a big difference. I didn't like the fact that the DCT was always trying to upshift during the slow speed turns. I have 24,000 miles on the bike now with no issues. I don't do much slow speed training any more!

Thanks Scott !,,

Wow, I was just texting a week or so ago wit h a couple of my buddies that have DCTs on this issue I saw somewhere else and here it detailed by the "Honda Expert" that we all respect!

Wow! thanks for the heads up. We have a Rebel 1100 dct. Was going to invite my wife to do some slow practice training but not now. Thanks for posting.

I am riding my second Goldwing DCT and have experienced ZERO ISSUES ! This smacks of retribution and faithfulness to Goldwings of yesteryear. ALL Goldwing's systems are superior to most competition sub-systems. Advice: Fear not the future, for it holds many wonders you have yet to dream! DCT RULES ! NO? Try it (at least 5,000 miles) and you will never go back. Good Rides

Coming from the transportation and heavy truck industry I wondered about this possibility from the get go being I’ve seen clutch failure in other electronically controlled units that seemed premature and or repetitive. Now we know 👍🏼

In 15 years at a Honda dealer, we have seen a grand total of 1 regular clutch Goldwing need replacing. Have never seen or heard of DCT clutch issues. That being said, we have seen many Victory clutches fail due to low speed training by Police dept and Motorcycle course trainers, a couple of Suzuki DL's . So to me this rider was/ is doing something abnormal to kill a clutch in 3 weeks. Going to watch the listed video to hear the story. This is good info if true.

I'm not surprised. Sounds like a lawsuit is in order. Honda refused to fix my transmission when it seized and shattered. That was $1700 back in 2015 on my 2014 Goldwing.

That is some pure BS out of Honda. I smell a class action lawsuit coming. Best to ya Scott and thanks for the updates!

Good to know will wait to buy one now

Greetings, I am currently considering acquiring a new Goldwing DCT & would appreciate advice regarding using the Manual Mode in first gear as enumerated in Jerry P’s video instead of in DCT mode when performing slow speed maneuvers. Will this avert the possibility of clutch damage? This method evidently eliminates annoyance of the DCT changing gears during slow speed turns. My understanding is that the clutch is fully and not partially engaged in this event & speed control is accomplished with throttle & brake which will lead to minor accelerated brake wear instead of clutch wear during limited practice. If this is indeed correct is it enumerated in the Goldwing DCT Owners Manual? Informed advice is appreciated. 🙏

Does this apply to the manual transmission as well? Mine only has 1200 miles on it and I'm getting a whining noise between 1500 and 2000 RPM under loaded conditions only.

I remember an video where they were doing slow speed maneuvering with a GW and they used the brake a lot to keep the transmission engaged. I could see where doing this a lot would be detrimental to the clutch. I thought it had more of a automatic transmission type torque converter set up.

If you read the Goldwing forum you’ll see that DCT failures are really rare. This guy was an instructor. No telling what his GW went through.

I am surprised that slow riding maneuvers in a parking lot is any different than riding slowly in congested traffic on a highway. I have had to do this for many miles when an interstate has a lane or two closed for an accident or construction.

I am not familiar with GWs, but a transmission cooler with a continuously running fan at low speeds should work. And a transmission fluid temperature gauge. And a service bulletin from Honda that specifies the normal operating temperature range of a DCT transmission.

he's back

So constant low speed riding wears the clutch but what about the low speeds your going to incur in everyday riding? The clutch isn't getting that hot normally but as we see, it's still wearing and probably at a faster rate than you would think.

surely there is more to the story. I ride with several guys with DCTs and none of them have issues. I'm wondering what he is calling training and how much of it he is doing. It just doesn't make sense that he would have two back to back and in only 3 weeks.

You mentioned that "insurance" had replaced his bike. Do you know what kind of insurance? I'd purchase some of that. Also, at about 2:06, you say nobody intentionally slips the clutch. That's what all this "friction zone" slow riding is about. Using the brakes and slipping the clutch. The straight shifts will handle this type use for a fairly long time. Evidently not the DCT. I think Honda will deny claims relating to the DCT for bikes with a trailer hitch too. Hope I'm wrong, but that's what I see coming. It's a shame Honda decided that the Airbag model is only available with DCT.

If your doing slow maneuvering your are constantly in the friction zone (slipping the clutch). In DCT you’ll need to use the rear brake, which causes excessive heat in the clutch, even in a manual clutch. If your already a friction zone expert, like a law enforcement motor officer, then the DCT will be fine, as you’ll not need to go out and constantly train, just a few figure 8’s a week to keep the edge sharp will suffice. But if you’re less than that then you need a manual clutch to practice with!!! And the fact Honda replaced the first bike?…..that’s an amazing motor Corp! I’m having to file a lemon law suit on Harley Davidson for a “friction zone” issue on a 2019 Ultra Limited, due to their “inability “ to correct an acknowledged engineering defect.

As I understand it, this is the only clutch complaint that has surfaced. There are thousands of Goldwing/DCT units out there. Has there been any other issues of this type, or is this a one off.? I too, have a DCT on my Honda, do a lot of parking lot slow speed practice, and have had no clutch problems.

Hello Scott, talk about opening a can of worms. Someone's going to open a can of W.A. Thanks for the video. Have a great day!

Thank you for those 2 videos it helped me decide on buying manual over DCT 💯👏 Slow speed practice is A NORMAL period.

Wonder if there’s any warning or mention of this in the Honda owners manual or warranty terms and conditions.

Something doesn't sound right. I feel bad for the guy but I wonder if he's dragging (or holding) the rear brake EXCESSIVELY and continually applying acceleration, and practising these slow speed manoeuvres for extremely long periods and therefore building extreme clutch heat. Any machine can be broken if abused long enough. To do the same thing to two bikes, in such a short period, really makes me wonder.

Maybe if there was some indication of when the clutch is slipping, that'd pop up on the screen, that would give us more of a clue as to what's going on. It strikes me that if Honda makes it a black box system, that we can't know what's happening inside it while it's in use, then Honda needs to program & engineer that system such that even edge cases like continually practising slow speed skills doesn't damage the bike. If they're going to shift the onus onto the rider, then we need some information as to what's going on & when within the DCT box.

Thanks for the heads up, Scott! Myself, I'd not buy a new Wing with a DCT trans. I'll take a standard trans model, thank you. I saw the post in the website, so am aware of what has happened. I'd be calling a lawyer if I were dclinton.

What will happen when in miles of Traffic jam as on an interstate that had an accident? Are you going to destroy the DCT clutches?

Am I wrong? I thought on the DCT you could manually shift with a thumb lever? Would that make a difference on slow speed riding?

What keyboards do you have hidden under there?

Scott, in trying to find information on where the gl1500 rear shock air pressure sensor is located... All I'm finding online is "replace the shocks" and tpms problems... Any help would be lovely

This story gets more attention than it deserves. What is the actual data on DCT clutch failures? Personally this the only story I'm aware of and these transmissions have been out for over ten years in various iterations and usages. Before we collectively light our hair on fire I think it's important to balance the story out with some real world data, not anecdotal or just one persons experience.

Question for that Honda PR Rep: Are you saying that several hours each week of commuting in stop and go big-city traffic voids your warranty? 3 weeks of practicing THE most critical maneuvers to master and stay sharp on? DCT values are about to take a nose-dive.

I am curious was he in automatic mode while do slow speed manuevers and would being in manual mode have made a difference

Not only does this explain what will happen regardless of the mode used. It details just how expensive it will be to repair/replace the clutch in a DCT cycle.

An honest video. Buy a different motorcycle if you want to ride around a parking lot all day in 1rst gear. I have to side with Honda on this. They gave him a new clutch and then he does the same thing and gets the same result. It reminds me of people who put a cheater pipe on a ratchet and when the ratchet breaks they want to warranty the ratchet.

Well I think I'll stick to my GL1100 for a little while longer😉 But I really hope there soon will be a solution for you riders with this DCT problem👊

They advised the same on their DCT vehicles.

Slow speed maneuvers are in every safety course out there. If DCT can't hack it, Honda needs to let owners know their bikes won't be covered under warranty. I rode a brand new DCT Wing today and found the bike to be utterly boring. It was very predictable and shifts were so smooth it's like driving a CVT car. A snore fest. My 18 Wing was far more sporty feeling and if I get another one, it will be a manual. My bet is the BMW Gt 1600 will be a different story if I can ever make it in to test one out.

Do we know the entire story,...was the owner made aware after fixing his 2020 the constant low speed maneuvers caused the problem, he said he was not, or was he? If he actually was made aware, than Honda has a point. The DCT have been extremely reliable. For the same person to trash 2 transmissions in that short period of time, I believe sometime is amiss

Everyone should send emails or letters to Honda about this issue and this needs to be covered as it could become a safety issue as well especially if the clutch goes out when one is on the highway. Should be covered under the warranty

This is a big concern and I know will turn off many riders from getting a Honda in the future.

What if your in stop and go traffic

My question is, what if you dont do slow speed riding and you just ride it. Will it still fail? Yeah, probably after the warranty expires. And dealers don't want to work on bikes older than 10 yrs old. So basically, the bike will be junk. It's best to get a manual. Hopefully, this is not an ongoing problem for honda with the DCT.

I’m very skeptical when new stuff comes out.. there’s always bugs in them. Since I’m deaf, your KZfaq wasn’t captioned for deaf. Probably show up few hours later. I’ve seen DCT owners has issues with theirs, one in Texas broke down on him twice, got mad traded it off, another broke down… now stated it’s human destructive and voided his warranties. Those guys are down in Texas. I refuse buy DCT now. Still riding my 1990 1500 Goldwing. I was going buy Harley Davidson trike but they too have issues.

If all you did was slow speed maneuvers and stayed in the friction zone of a standard manual tranny, you would burn that clutch out as well, and in very short order. Don't see the design issue here.

Never thought I would hear those news from the company that used to make the best cruiser in the world. Guess this will affect people wir a DCT Africa Twin too and they certainly do slow speeding doing off road riding. Not good Honda…

I rode with a guy who would blow the engine in every single sled he ever owned. The rest of us rode the same sled with no issues. Can that please be explained.

I had the same issue but I don’t drive slow

Thats why i didn't buy the DCT model. i have a manual clutch and do alot of slow speed parking lot practice with zero problems. DCT would be fun for travelling and the open road. Bill.

If it's not in the owners manual not to do that it should be covered. Sounds like Honda needs to be going back to the drawing board and refunding all money spent on Goldwing Clutches and maybe even a recall may be in order. So in bumper to bumper traffic it sounds like that will also destroy the Goldwing clutch as it stands today. Not good at all. And the manual trans bike will do this all with no problem. What about trailer towing?? Sounds bleek for Honda!! Engineering seems to be getting a do over at customer expense......... 🤔 it all boils down to a Lawsuit!!

Being that this is the only instance of this issue I have heard or read about, I gotta think it's something he's doing for it to happen to 2 different bikes. 4 years on mine and still shifts and rides great.

Meh. No mention of how many hours training, miles put on during training, or speed used during slow speed training. With almost 60,000 miles on my Tour DCT, I've had no problems and no complaints.

Just ride a GL 1500, problems solved

From everything I’ve read and seen about this issue, it seems clear that this is a design flaw in the DCT.

Honda needs to issue some guidance on how to do slow speed maneuvers on their DCT bikes or people are just going to stop buying them. That's half their sales on those models, give or take. C'mon Honda - tell us how to do slow speed maneuvers without damaging the clutch.

Wow. I remember the Trail 70 or 90 or something that had no manual clutch but still shifted manually back in the 70's. When Honda put this out and there was no shift lever or clutch I was very skeptical. when CPU's control stuff its just a nightmare especially in the first few years of iteration. I've learned from MANY a "New Car of the Year" examples that ya just DO NOT BUY a first or second year BRAND NEW design. I chose to not be Honda's Beta Tester and thankful I made that choice. Sure is funny how they all of a sudden are throwing away their business model and touring customers. Bye Bye Honda for me.

For anyone to take anything from this one incident is pure insanity. There are far too many variables that haven't been addressed to draw any conclusions from. I have seen firsthand DCT Goldwings go thru an entire 3 week police motorcycle course with no ill effects. The key to that accomplishment was the skill levels of the riders. They all set the engine mode at what they felt most comfortable and "lightly" applied rear brake when they needed it. They didn't run constant rear brake nor did they ever get heavy on the rear brake. We don't know how skilled the person is that blew out his DCT, but apparently he didn't learn a thing from his first bike to his second bike. And just because someone claims to be a motorcycle instructor doesn't mean they are a good motorcycle instructor. No manufacturer warrantees clutches on their motorcycles regardless of time in use. I have seen clutches on manual shift bikes go south in 20 minutes with an unskilled operator who used the rear brake as a crutch for his poor riding skills. There have been times when a manufacturer MAY elect to replace a worn clutch, but that is far and few in between. Clutches are a wear item that the factory has no control over how they are used. So with this in mind the owner of this problem should have been well aware of what was going on and adjusted or improved his riding skills BEFORE he hit the track once again. How many DCT's is Honda supposed to give this guy before he learns? The owner of the two Goldwing's must have little in the way of common sense going for him, or he would have, or should have known that he needs to let the bike cool down after a few minutes in the cones, but this was another area not stipulated to. If he stayed in slow cone patterns for lengthy time periods then shame on him. Stupid is as stupid does. Worse yet is that people that should know better pick up the torch and flame Honda when they don't have all the facts, or know anything about the rider/owner other than he is allegedly an instructor and apparently not a very good one. You can't keep committing the same mistakes over and over again without making changes and expect different results. It doesn't work that way. I for one would have loved to see what condition the rear brake pads were on these two Goldwings as that would tell the whole story about how the bike was ridden. Unfortunately that aspect wasn't discussed by the person posting this garbage. Remember too that a Goldwing is NOT designed for this type of riding. It is designed for something entirely different and using one in extended cone pattern sessions is not advisable. This one falls on the owner of the bike who clearly abused it to the point of damaging not one, but two DCT's. Rick H.

No way. Honda is usually good with their warranty. Now if the rider is doing something that bad, then I think Honda should not cover it. My friend bought a Harley and he was riding his bike hard. I think warranty covered him twice and the 3rd time Harley say that was enough. If Honda already helped replace his bike then it would be questionable for the 2nd bike.

Definitely not taking any low speed classes now on my new Wing. Thanks again for posting this and making me aware before I destroyed my clutch. Abuse. This is a really bad look for Honda.

Another reason why I LOVE the Honda goldwing 1800….. pre 2018…

I just stuck my tongue in hot chocolate. 🤪 But I'll stick with my trusty steed GL1200A 🎉

I'm a Honda fan boi and Rider Coach. I teach Moto Skills and used my DCT Goldwing, but now use my BMW R1250GS. All of that being said. I fully believe this is a Honda issue and should be covered. Know this; Honda will never, never, never speak a word of this publicly. Further, they will not help that guy no matter what. Ask me how I know. They truly suck for customer service and there's at least one rep I actively hate. I don't even hate my ex, but this clown earned all of my ire. Not only that, they were smart mouthed about it too. Soichiro Honda, would be rolling over in his grave seeing how Honda America CS acts and treats his customers. Why? Because they can.

This just doesn't stack up against the multitudes of DCT owners that have had zero issues. If you are riding with a "Drill team" you will find issues with many components of the bike. I know riders who ride precision for fun , most have Harley Police models , with heavy duty clutches and even special brake fluid as the stock stuff will boil during excessive rear brake dragging. All in all practice occasionally but if you want to do police type competition the DCT isn't the right bike . I'd buy another in a minute !

So the warranty of the Honda 'DCT Goldwing' doesn't cover the clutch? The clutch is what the 'DCT' is all about. Perhaps this denial came from a lower level of corporate? I sure hope so.

I’ll stick with manual transmission for me.

Is this guy the only person with DCT doing slow speed manuevers he cant be

This is crappy. I knew this about dcts because vw’s Dct is the same thing, no creeping in traffic like you would a torque converter transmission. How is the average Joe supposed to know this ?

Am I the only one that wonders, if this guy had a problem on one bike and now the exact same problem on the new one, what’s going on….

I have been riding since 1968. Dirt bikes, street bikes, motocross bikes, trials bikes which are very hard on clutches, road racing machines. I’ve had three Yamaha ventures, I’ll BMW K 1200 LT, a gl1800 Goldwing.. One of my production road racing machines has more than 120 launches on it it starts of heat races and final road races. I have never had a clutch fail in any of my machines ever. My first venture was a 1986 with 138,000 miles on it. Original clutch.. I was very interested in buying the new V twin Yamaha venture. But no dealer around me ever had one in stock for me to even see one. They wanted a deposit before they would order one. I was there the first month they were announced in 2018, and here it is March 2023 and I still have never seen a new V twin Yamaha venture .. when I was shopping, I was considering the new goldwing also.. I had just sold my GL 1800 Goldwing which was, as all gold wings are, perfect, except of course, the four-way flasher module. I made the mistake of turning the four-way flashers on one evening, and I could not get them to turn off, I rode over 70 miles home with the four ways on in the dark..I went on youtube to see how to fix it, and it turns out that is a very common problem with that motorcycle which is very surprising to me that Honda would have a widespread problem like that. I even went on eBay in hopes of finding a used one, there were a few used ones on there, and they all had many bids on them, and the auctions were not over yet. They were hundreds of dollars for used ones…. I ended up getting mine to free up by drilling a small hole in it and squirting electrical contact cleaner in the unit, and never touching that four-way flasher button again.. when I sold the bike I told the new owner of the problem and to never use the four ways.. so when I was shopping for a replacement possibly a new Goldwing, I started hearing about the transmission problems,A riding acquaintance of mine is a hopelessly loyal Goldwing rider. He and his riding buddy had just bought leftover 2017 gold wings. The reason they bought leftovers is because, they traded in their 2018 goldwings in on the leftover 17s. They did not like the 18s as much as they liked the 2012 and 2015 models they traded in on the 18s… their wives also did not like the 18s because they said they didn’t have the luggage capacity or the comfort of the older versions.. well from my point of view at that time, I had just sold my GL 1800, and my buddy convinced me not to get one of the 18s.. so I knew I did not want to buy another BMW, or a newer Goldwing, and I have never got a chance to see the Yamaha venture V-twin. So I bought an older Yamaha royal star venture with very low miles from the original owner. like I said earlier it’s my third venture. I had an 86, a 2002, and now I have a 2008 here in 2023. I have videos on KZfaq of the maintenance chores I performed on it. I also have a video on youtube stating what my impressions of each machine is between the GL 1800 and my current Yamaha royal star venture.. A shock to me is, my video has over 51,000 views in less than a year, and over 600 thumbs up.. I say in my video that goldwing buyer?? perfect, but their Achilles’ heel is, they are so hard to work on. I used to be a motorcycle mechanic at several different shops. So I have always always done my own maintenance. I can do just about everything except cylinder boring, and two-stroke triple crankshaft rebuilding.. I don’t have the jigs for that but I can do single and twin crankshaft rebuilds/truing.. I look at a Goldwing this way. They can go easily 200,000 miles with basic maintenance. OK The air cleaners take approximately six hours to change. I thought that was ridiculous that it would cost over $600 to have an air cleaner changed so I did the job myself. And it is not ridiculous to charge six hours labor because that’s how long it takes.. I went step-by-step using the Honda official service manual, being careful, making a holder to take all of the screws that I had to remove out in sequence because many of them are all different sizes and have to go back where they came from when it comes to removing the side panels and the main cover over the engine.. OK so let’s say you have the dealer do your air cleaner change every 20,000 miles. In 200,000 miles, that’s 10 air filter changes.. The dealer labor rate is $125 an hour pretty much everywhere. Six hours to change the air filter, just the labor not counting the air filter. That’s $750 just labor to change the air filter one time over 200,000 miles, that’s $7500 to make 10 air filter changes. Just the labor.. if you’re loaded with dough, that’s no big deal. but I could take my wife out to dinner over 150 times including drinks for $7500.. that’s dinner at Applebee’s once a week for almost 3 years just to change 10 air filters.. on my venture, I can get at the starter, the stator, the slave cylinder, the clutch, and the water pump without removing a single piece of plastic, they are right on the opened. I can change the air cleaners, both of them on the venture, in about 10 minutes each, using a number to fill up screwdriver, and a 10 mm wrench.. so the subject of this video is about clutch failure on the Goldwing. The thought of having to change the clutch on my Goldwing is one of the reasons I decided that I did not want to risk having a serious issue with that motorcycle. So I sold it and went back to some thing I know is very serviceable. My royal star venture Gold wings are perfect.. but they are so hard to work on. And if you don’t do your own work, you have to marry the dealer.. stories like this video, telling us that Honda refused to service the clutch on this guy is Goldwing convinces me that I made the right choice.. i’m gonna wait till Honda comes out with a new revised Goldwing in a few years that is compliant with the European air pollution requirements which are tougher than California’s. I read that Honda is discontinuing the Goldwing six-cylinder and nine other models because they cannot possibly pass the European union air pollution standards in the near future.. I hope they come out with something like that on the Pacific coast size Goldwing. I have had two on the Pacific coasts.. my first one got totaled while I was sitting on it at a stop sign from behind. I immediately replaced it with another one which I commuted on for the next 24 years, trouble free.. 48 hp Pacific Coast V twin engine made all the power I ever needed. A replacement Goldwing with an 800 cc engine would be perfect

If it's not able to handle any kind of use then it's a flawed design and needs more development. It's as simple as that. Oh and any country doesn't have consumer protection laws and allows Honda to turn around and say they're not going to honour a warranty, is ridiculous. They wouldn't have the balls to even suggest that in the EU.

Sue

I will keep my 2007 harley davidson and if I decide to upgrade I will stick with harley davidson.

This is insane, I have been wondering what the follow up would be. Now I know. Honda shoved their finger in the customer's butt. This BS. I have worked in dealerships since 1994, and warranty SHOULD include "all manufacturing defects while being used under normal operating conditions". So Honda is saying that riding slowly is NOT normal operation of the machine? What if you ride to work a lot and are stuck in traffic on the daily? OK, I know, an automatic bike is not my thing either, and a lot of people will be saying "NeVer Get A DCT!". Right or wrong, that isn't the point. This is a manufacturer who won't stand behind their product. Very disappointing, and I am mad as hell. Automatic transmission have been around for 80 years, and Honda is telling us that they can't get it right, and that it is the buyer's fault? "I don't think so Tim" to quote Al Borland. I'd love to see a class action suit against Honda for this, maybe even have Steve Lehto cover it all on his channel, because this just ain't right.

DCT failure. I see 2 remedy's right off the bat. Extensive slow speed for any manual vehicle is hard on any clutch. 1 - (IF it's possible) Add a trans lockup button. This keep the trans in one gear (whatever is suited for slow speed riding) and will not shift. 2 - In 'Stop-n-Go traffic Harley's are 'respectfully' allowed to ride the shoulder since they are air cooled. DCT Honda's should have the same 'respect' from the cops. I don't own one and nor am I interested. Owner repairs are becoming extremely technical & most owners are not at that level of mechanically inclined. Personally I think motorcycles needs several 'Steps back' to lower their complexity.

But, but Hondas are so reliable and Hondas never breakdown and Hondas are the best bikes ever

Get a clutch model. I wouldn’t want to do slow skill maneuvers with a DCT. Part of the skill is clutching. Challenge yourself. Maybe a Goldwing isn’t for you.

A clutch controlled by computer should have the intelligence in the software to not overheat and wear out the clutch. Their should either be a sensor that monitors clutch temperature, or a timer that monitors how long the clutch has been only partially engaged. This is simply good engineering, not rocket science. Honda dropped the ball on this and doesn’t want to admit it. Blaming an engineering deficiency on the consumer is very poor practice by a company. Now, if the rider has a clutch lever such that the rider is the one who slipped the clutch too much, then that is on the rider. However, if the Honda computer slips the Honda clutch into oblivion, that is on Honda.

Total BS Honda needs to fix the DCT clutch. I'm on edge of buying a new one surely don't want a Can Am. Clearly the fix doesn't cost that much to fix over charge by dealers so Honda doesn't take the hit which to them is a drop in the bucket

What is the difference between lots of slow speed manoeuvres on a DCT motorcycle and driving an automatic car every day in heavy city traffic... NONE, they both require the vehicles computer to determine the amount of clutch use... HONDA this is a MAJOR design flaw!

Honda Motorcycle Powersport and their Engineers are in big trouble. They know dam well that motorcyclist take Motorcycle Safety Courses which require slow speed riding. They have a lot of explaining to do. I know that Honda has two different vehicles, cars/trucks and motorcycles. All Honda vehicles with automatic transmissions basically function under the same principles. Drivers drive their vehicle at time at slow speeds and never burn out their clutches. So, Honda Motorcycle Powersport needs to explain why the transmission in a car/truck driving at slow speeds and never have a problem, but the Honda Motorcycle DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission) has had two of their DCT model burn out from slow speed riding from the same person. They should go back to the drawing board (CAD) to find out how to fix this problem. In my opinion I think it's ac software problem because the software tells the computer what to do and when to do it. About the warranty shouldn't be an issue on the DCT because the rider has no control of the clutch, whereas in a manual clutch, the rider has control of the clutch and on the manual transmission there is no warranty because the rider could abuse it. Just like clutches, brakes also are not covered by a warranty, but any vehicle with automatic transmission and the clutches burn out are and should be covered under a warranty because the clutch system was removed from the rider's control. This gentleman should take Honda Motorsports to court for this issue and be reimburse finacially. How he can find a very good lawyer to represent him.

Shocking and disturbing answer from Honda. Time to rethink the DCT transmission, guess it's just not ready for prime time.

He’s 1 one of thousands…

For all the wannabe experts out there: Unlike a manual transmission which is usually designed to be servicable, any sort of automatic transmission - given the considerable price markup - is supposed to last a major part of a motorcycles total lifetime expectancy and is only servicable with huge effort and cost. Thus, a Honda DCT dying TWICE within a few weeks each is nothing short of an embarassment to a corporation like Honda.

Good that I live not in USA😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

Why hasn’t that owner come forward. What are you, his lawyer. There are always three sides to every story. You are not telling the full truth.

I have spent countless hours on my 2018 DCT Tourer in the parking lots since new. Practicing slow speed maneuvers, even though I’ve been riding motorcycles for over 50 years. I have never seen a warning indicator or experienced any issues with the DCT clutch. I’ve heard this rumor and I question it’s authenticity. There are folks that seem to like to keep the rumor alive and well. When I hear it on a platform such as this one, it also brings into question the integrity of this channel of which I have unsubscribed. No loss as those that inflate and promote rumors and act as it is urgent and trustworthy news to promote their channel… well, let’s just say I’ve had enough. Ride on DCT riders, it is the most dependable Goldwing on the market.

Another reason NOT to buy a DCT!!

Makes me wanna dump my Honda and jump to BMW just beyond Hondas business practices.

So a bike bought mostly by old men can't go slow?? Then why not call it an "viagran"

honda quality is gone long time ago

FFS If you need to ride around car parks doing that shit maybe it's time to give up riding ! Put it in RAIN mode and Manual shift mode SO CALLED problem SOLVED !

This is why I will never have a bike or vehicle that uses a computer to control the transmission