Feminine passive aggression, but such an effective burn. She was indirectly saying that the experienced Geisha was not as young as she used to be. The men laughed because they knew that a Geisha's livelihood was made on the combination her skills and beauty.

The book was better. It’s nothing that can be mentioned in this movie without changing the rating, though. In the book, Hatsumomo tells a story about another apprentice geisha who looks an awful lot like Sayuri but isn’t her. So don’t think of her, okay? Don’t think of her at all. 🙂 This apprentice geisha who isn’t Sayuri gets blown back by a powerful wind while she’s wearing these fancy apprentice geisha robes-and no undies. Long story short, this apprentice geisha ends up slamming into a windshield splay-legged, with her naughty bits pressed right up against the glass. Hatsumomo’s moral of the story? Apprentice geishas like Sayuri don’t have much hair. They’re just babies. Sayuri’s reply? Oh, but she does have hair. A good deal of it! And she reaches up and pats the hair on her head. The people at the table think that’s much funnier than Hatsumomo’s bawdy story. Guess who isn’t laughing, though.

@@ElizaHamilton1780 Hatsumomo calling the geisha in her story "Mayuri" was savage. Still, it's understandable why they had to change the joke; telling the original aloud in this film would have been super awkward. XD I remember that, in the book, Mameha also shades Hatsumomo for her age: "My goodness, Hatsumomo, I didn't recognize you. You certainly have aged well!"

sam Girl for real

I’m trying to learn it

In an interview Gong Li said she practised 2000 times a day for 5 mth (the whole filming period). That devotion is sick!

YES

My mother in Law is a former Geisha and traditional dancer from the Akasaka Hanamachi of Tokyo and she was quite impressed by Hatsumomo's dexterity with the fan. The folding and tossing is unthinkable but the move she does at first called Kanamegaeshi is very difficult for beginners and Gong Li did it like a master. If you want to learn how to do it, here is a video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eseji5ib1cfcqX0.html

yeah. she'd rather lie & scare to get her way, and became so used to it, she'd do anything to keep chiyo from becoming successful. that's not a lot. she's just selfish.

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try reading the book it has a better description of what ahsumomo did t get where she is, hint: destroying another maiko by spreading rumors about her

Read Geisha of Gion by Iwasaki Mineko, the geisha who was interviewed for the book! The Hatsumomo character came from a family that was nobility during the Edo period but lost their fortune during the Meiji Restoration, so a lot of her actions were tied up in “I don’t get to be rich??? How dare???” In any case, she was AWFUL to Mineko; fortunately Mineko was fully supported by her okiya.

NekoInk13 that's true

She is starring as the witch in the new upcoming Mulan movie! It looks like her English has gotten a lot better

What a tragic world, when 30 plus is considered old.

Sander Nielsen Impressive that Gong Li was 40 when this came out, no?

That's hilarious. Very true. Props to MC the Queen of shade 👑

Not even a contest. Girl can step on me.

They did tho... she actually gets drunk quite a lot in this movie

@@amyamy5163 just once. When she is with Korin.

nothing compared to the book version where she's drunk literally every day

@@jessieblossom3874 Yes; it's implied in the book that Hatsumomo ended up drinking herself to death. "She certainly wouldn't have been the first geisha to do so" is a chilling reflection on the tragic fate of the majority of geisha at the time. Hopefully geisha today have much better personal and financial freedom and control.

@@dieterdelange9488According to Iwasaki Mineko, the geisha who was interviewed for the book, there was a “nobody wants to work anymoooooore!!!” on such a massive scale that there are now only a few okiya left. I don’t know what their rights are like overall, but they now have to go to regular school until at least the end of junior high, which equates to about age 15 in Japan, so that they can have at least a basic education to fall back on.

Ew

Have been asking myself the same question still haven't found a tutorial

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Hatsumomo is Kinda similar to Azula

The teahouse that you are bonded with your older sister at and make your debut as a maiko, and the principle teahouse mistress that the geisha's okiya works with usually helps the okiya barter with men who are interested in becoming a geisha's dana, however, geisha usually work at several different teahouses and banquet halls, entertaining lots of different groups of men in the hopes that one will take an interest in her. Usually, a Maiko or apprentice geisha would work under the main geisha of the okiya, so Sayuri should have worked under Hatsumomo, the way Pumpkin did, because then there isn't a conflict of interest for the teahouses. Mameha's principle teahouse was a different one than the okiya that Sayuri lived in. So, when Mameha became Sayuri's older sister, Mameha's influence grew, because she established a deeper relationship with that teahouse that she didn't have before. Now, Hatsumomo on the other hand, wasn't banned from working at the teahouse. Hatsumomo had angered the mistress of the teahouse because the mistress had wanted her son to become Hatsumomo's Danna, and Hatsumomo refused. So while the Mistress would let Hatsumomo entertain because she didn't want to lose the money that the customers brought into the teahouse, what she did to get back at Hatsumomo was anytime someone inquired about becoming Hatsumomo's Danna, the mistress would tell the man that Hatsumomo wasn't available to become his mistress, and they usually took it to mean she already had a Danna. The Teahouse mistress kept her customers that Hatsumomo would have otherwise taken with her to another teahouse, while at the same time making it so Hatsumomo couldn't have a Danna. And Hatsumomo couldn't change which teahouse was her principle teahouse, because no other teahouse would register her for fear of hurting their relationship with her first one. Really, Hatsumomo destroyed herself. She was so threatened by Sayuri and so set on pushing her out of Gion, that she set herself on fire in a way. If Hatsumomo had had half as much sense as Mameha, and had seen that befriending Sayuri and winning her over was the better route, Hatsumomo wouldn't have had the sad end that she did, and could have lived comfortably well into old age. But Hatsumomo's whole arc was about self destruction anyways, so, there it is, lol.

@@krystalcluck4282 ooh ok. Thanks for the explanation.

That's because no Japanese actor would dare star in such a film based on a book that was regarded as full of errors and embelishments.

I can see how. Welcome to the club though, because that’s how other ethnicities in America are represented-as caricatures.

@@Jocelyn_JadeNot to mention choosing actors based on which one is most famous (I’m looking at YOU, casters of The Princess Diaries who cast a KOREAN-Canadian actress to play the INDIAN vice-principal)