Good Isn't Always Super Expensive... | TC Electronic Jims 45, DC30 and Combo Deluxe

Good Isn't Always Super Expensive... | TC Electronic Jims 45, DC30 and Combo Deluxe | Thomann

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When you expect an amp simulation to sound a certain way and it exceeds all your expectations...
TC Electronic just brought out there new range of amp sim pedals so Guillaume and Kris took them for a spin. Leave a comment below!
Gear used: tho.mn/uol57
Recorded in Presonus Studio One: bit.ly/S1Pro6
Recorded and mixed with Universal Audio: tho.mn/uadx1
Monitors optimised through Sonarworks: tho.mn/sonar
Interesting bits and pieces:
0:00 Introduction
0:50 What are these pedals?
3:30 PLAYING | Combo Deluxe 65 | Line out
5:42 Features
8:00 PLAYING | Combo Deluxe with drive pedals
8:56 PLAYING | Combo Deluxe 65 | In front of amp
9:40 PLAYING | The DC 30 | Line out
10:55 Thoughts and features
11:50 PLAYING | The DC 30 | In front of amp
12:31 Impressions
13:03 PLAYING | Jims 45 | Line out
14:56 Impressions
15:28 PLAYING | Jims 45 | In front of amp
16:35 Impressions
18:07 Outro playing | LP into Jims 45
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Пікірлер: 75

@harriheinsoo Жыл бұрын

this is the demo I was waiting for! very well done, thank you Thomann!

@tannerrauschenberger8115 10 ай бұрын

The firmware update makes the combo deluxe 65 crazy good. Would recommend for sure.

@yuknat 4 ай бұрын

for real. get the firmware update it's a brand new pedal

@SomeKindOfMadman Жыл бұрын

My favorite duo on KZfaq, Kris and Guilluame, TC does make some affordable gear, I appreciate that. You guys did a great job showcasing these pedals. Thank you both.

@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much buddy, we really appreciate you!! 💛 //Kris

@DavidGodfren Жыл бұрын

Selling points of Combo Deluxe - #1 - The Tone #2 - The Look and most importantly #3 - G hitting those initial notes of his signature tune!

@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Жыл бұрын

Haha, an extra point for #3 😆 //Kris

@carminelombardi9575 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review!

@mgr.petrvinchavlicek1199 7 ай бұрын

Nice video gentemen. I just ordered Delux 65 from your shop. :) Thanks.

@eldorado5319 Жыл бұрын

Combo deluxe is perfect for me as a bassplayer who sometimes plays guitar in the studio when composing music.

@norbmolina7 Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@Sofika63 Жыл бұрын

I wish the Jims 45 had a reverb ! the combo deluxe sound way better in this video than in others video, you make me want to try it :-)

@horschy4856 Жыл бұрын

Combo deluxe did the thing for me! And someone practiced the godfather theme since the last video 😉

@nihiabstracto Жыл бұрын

Sounds good !

@quiquepriore Жыл бұрын

I think that plug in front of the amp no make sense because in that way are 2 preamps, maybe in the fx loop with the power amp section only. Any way, good vid, for me dlx has better recreation than the other two

@sergiovgbrandao 5 ай бұрын

You may feel good about yourselves! Great demo! 🙏

@chemajimenez447 Жыл бұрын

Nice demo, guys!. The dc 30 has a Celestion Alnico Blue ir. The other two has g12m creamback as you said.

@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Жыл бұрын

True, sorry for the false info on that! Thanks for the comment! 🙌 //Kris

@CaneyBoniface Жыл бұрын

I'm a bassplayer. I wish TC electronic made an upgrade their TC SpectraDrive with CabSim.

@Wildmutationblu 11 ай бұрын

The Combo Deluxe 65' is the clear winner. The reverb and the gain through the 65' sound so good.

@peterknicked Жыл бұрын

It is so boring that every manufacturer just makes another Fender, AC and JTM. There are other amps, better amps and so on.

@nathanelder5285 Жыл бұрын

Not really. There’s a reason they have stood the test of time and are infinitely more popular than the others.

@paniccleo 11 ай бұрын

Most other amps are based on these archetypes, so...

@peterknicked 11 ай бұрын

@@nathanelder5285 really I just thought it had to do with the conservative views of guitarplayers and the industry.

@peterknicked 11 ай бұрын

@@paniccleo not at all. The best sounding clean amp to date is the Roland JC120. Then we have the preamps and poweramps of the 1980-ties and 90-ties that have a quite a different approach in most cases. The Diezel and the Carvin heads and of course the moderns heads from Mezzabarba or Red Seven among other examples. The TC-50 or any other better sounding amp than a Vox or a JTM etc. There are sich a plethora but yet it always comes down to the same amps.

@michaelloebenstein3930 10 ай бұрын

Great Demo, thank you. Question: can you use the two outputs (to amp, DI with cab sim) simultaneously? I'm thinking of using this live with a low watt combo on stage, with the cab sim signal going to FOH and the out (without cab sim) into the amp for a bit of on-stage monitoring. Many thanks!

@damasterkarej Жыл бұрын

Tricky question: small device to practice guitar and bass. With speaker or to use with headphones. Some video about? :)

@khargrarnrhan209 Жыл бұрын

I want a JCM800 version of this pedal.

@cgavin1 Жыл бұрын

A facsimile of a truth. A memory of an idea. A truth for a thing.

@andrus108 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to try the 45 with fuzz. If it accepts fuzzes the way the real tube amp does, it could replace my current DI amp consisting of Bogner Blue and Two Notes CAB M+, and at 1/3 of the price.

@emiliano9321 Жыл бұрын

don´t ever sell the bogner blue!

@onbedoeldekut1515 Жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting to see the new NUX Trident, when's it dropping?

@GraniteSoundtrack Жыл бұрын

Can you run the DI out and from the regular out at the same time? Like for a stage monitoring option?

@larsfrederiksen3005 Жыл бұрын

Yes you can :)

@bluzmansix Жыл бұрын

To my ears - combo deluxe 1st, JTM 2nd, DC 30 3rd. I wanted to love the Vox pedal (I love the Vox sound) but it really didn't seem to cut it. JTM was cool.

@TheBedroomRocker1 Жыл бұрын

Cool video, thanks! Nice pedals, nice sounds, much better via DI with cab sim in my opinion. But I honestly find the fact that you can't change the IR file in it a bit of a deal-breaker. The 412 Creamback is a nice safe choice, but I think most people would prefer traditional choices like a 112 Jensen-something for the Combo Deluxe and 212 Alnico for the DC30. It is nicely priced compared to Strymon Irridium and the sort, but the Irridium also has these 3 amp sims in a single pedal and much more options in cab sim and reverbs. So I feel the Ampworks are cheaper but not necessarily more cost-effective because they have less features. If you just need one amp and one IR, it's not a bad deal though...

@jose_simon Жыл бұрын

Actually, we put a 1x12 Creamback in the ComboDeluxe, a 2x12 Alnico Blue in the DC30 and a 4x12 G12M Creamback in the JIMS45. We went through the entire Celestion IR catalog and chose those, so they’d have different IRs which really match their own personalities. Regarding reverb, the ComboDeluxe offers a true convolution reverb of 4 seconds.

@topdazzle Жыл бұрын

Although it's adding to the cost by about £100 you can run any of these (without cab sim) through IR's of your choice such as the TC Impulse pedal. If you already have an IR loader then there's no additional cost.

@TheBedroomRocker1 Жыл бұрын

@@jose_simon thanks for the comment. It's great to hear how the selection was done. However, would it be much more complicated to let the user change the IR in the pedal? It already has a USB connection and IR loader, so I feel it would be a simple matter of changing the IR wav file?

@TheBedroomRocker1 Жыл бұрын

@@topdazzle yes, that is true. I just feel it's a bit of a waste, since the Ampworx themselves already have an IR loader, but are limited to a single IR file in this case

@jose_simon Жыл бұрын

@@TheBedroomRocker1 technically it’s doable, but since it’s not a feature in the current firmware, we’d have to roll out an update. It’ll depend on the reception by the users (how many consider this feature fundamental / deal breaker).

@MrJingles021 Жыл бұрын

I wish the Combo Deluxe had a really high headroom. If it did, I'd order one now.

@jose_simon Жыл бұрын

It actually has as much headroom as a real vintage blackface from 65, the thing is that when you turn the real amp to 3-4, it not only gets crunchy but also quite loud, so you play differently. When using the AmpWorx, it’s easy not to realize how cranked the amp model is because you can turn down the output level.

@charlcoetzee93 10 ай бұрын

FYI there was a firmware update, it now has more headroom.

@frankhubner3019 Жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, Hi Guillaume, I would like to use such pedals in front of a audient sono i.e. Maybe a try on this?

@Glicksman1 11 ай бұрын

The T.C. Combo Deluxe 65, their Deluxe Reverb clone pedal, does not have "Vibrato" (Tremolo), which takes it off my list right away. Also, no IR selection, just one. Yeah, it's much cheaper than the UA Dream 65 DR clone pedal, but you get so much more with the UA one that IMO it's worth the extra bucks. Also, the UA one sound better, more authentic to the amp, too. If UA had a put head phone output in, it would be untouchable, which is just about already is. The DC30 is authentic to the AC-30 to my ears, but lacks the normal/bright channels of a real AC-30. UA "Ruby" has all of that, plus an authentic Dallas Rangemaster treble booster as well. The choice of a single IR in the DC-30 is a curious, and I think a lazy one. They just used the same IR as in the Combo 65. That's a big mistake, I think. A proper AC-30 clone pedal ought to have at least the choice of the two, 12" Celestion CT3757, Alnico Blue "Bulldog" speakers that came in them to begin with. "Ruby" has that, plus a good IR of an AC-15, as well as some others. It is so much better than the DC-30, IMO. T.C.s' Jim's 45 sounds quite authentic to a Marshal JTM45 to me, and is the only one of the three I would consider getting. As for the relative prices of the T.C.s and the UA's, yes, the T.C.s are more affordable. However, once you have one of them on your board, you're not going to be thinking, "Well, it doesn't sound as good as what I might have in its place, but hey, I saved some money." No, you wouldn't be thinking that for one bloody second, would you. Cheers

@MikelBluni Жыл бұрын

The Marshall doesn’t convince me. Have played a vintage JTM45 for years and I can’t detect any similarities. The overall idea of the pedals is superb.

@MartinMartin-yi9to Жыл бұрын

Why is the guitar sound bouncing from left to right? Are you guys using delay in post?

@cacacoco2 Жыл бұрын

If the switch its off the cab sim still works?

@Fabian5150 Жыл бұрын

Wow they really do everything, that I miss on my atomic ampli firebox. That thing doesn't even have a headphoen jack. And it gets weird with drive in front of it. Might have to buy the deluxe 65

@lankududniteshift Жыл бұрын

FYI...With regards to these Ampworx pedals, for an additional (approximately) USD40, u can get an "Amp In A Box" pedal just like these Ampworx (which has almost the same dimensions with these Ampworx) but this particular pedal gives u up to 12 different amp/cab IR (in which u can select 6 out of those 12 on the pedal itself), have 5 types of reverbs, a superb Noise Suppressor, a couple of Compressors/Boosts/Drives, a 7 band graphic EQ, an Effects Loop, a USB type C for loading yr own IRs or doing a more advance editing with its free app (U don't have to, cause right of the box, u can immediately create yr sound on the pedal itself, just like the Ampworx),a separate output (with switchable IR or bypassing the iR) on 1/4" to guitar amp's effects' Return (or any power amp) & another output with a DI XLR connector with the IR, meant to be sent to the mixer/recorder & much more...and all these, sounding great with very good feel under fingers (due to its very, very short latency). This pedal is called, NuX Amp Academy....... Just my 2 cents...

@lespaul-vy4vn Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry if I missed it...but what pedal closed out the video?

@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Жыл бұрын

Right at the end of the video? That was the Jims 45. Cheers //Kris

@GraniteSoundtrack Жыл бұрын

Made them sound better than Lee and Pete on Anderton’s.

@PooNinja Жыл бұрын

Combo delux FTW.

@markproctor3100 Жыл бұрын

If they had an effects loop they'd be perfect 😏🤘

@ibinTZY Жыл бұрын

Just place the time based and modulation effects after the pedal.

@markproctor3100 Жыл бұрын

@@ibinTZY fair enough but not quite the same I've watched a couple of videos of this and if you only had a few pedals that would be fine but if you had fuzz pedals etc might cause problems but I think they'd be worth trying out 🤘

@ibinTZY Жыл бұрын

@@markproctor3100 fuzz in the front end before compressor and drives works great. After the amp fuzz will sound weird i guess hahaha

@markproctor3100 Жыл бұрын

@@ibinTZY They look great especially for the money 🤘 definitely worth a tryout I think the Vox AC30 type one might be perfect for me as I'm a big Rory Gallagher fan 🤘

@ibinTZY Жыл бұрын

@@markproctor3100 i was looking at the same one 😏😏 can't wait to try them all 🤩

@sawdustcrypto3987 Жыл бұрын

Watching KZfaq videos, one would assume that every electric guitar player plays only overdriven tones all the time. Am I a freak?

@qddk9545 11 ай бұрын

No 🙂

@rogerYT69 Жыл бұрын

cool demo. to me they sound a bit lifeless and flat but for the price i think it's ok ...prefer the uafx dream 65 😊

@chopperdeath 11 ай бұрын

At this point 99% of ears can't tell the difference if amps are just heard in the wild. Of course an in person comparison or a headphone isolation will reveal small changes but it is actually irrelevant to most people who want to play or gig, not tone snob" out as a hobby.

@michaelbevins2405 Жыл бұрын

Those little moore micros 002 j c m 900 ,sound better on my headphones ,These sound a little nasty? maybe if you put a sd 1 in front ,That makes M I A B s always sound like a good plexi or 800 Pushed with an s d 1.

@georgewilkins4231 Жыл бұрын

Be careful. There are latency issues with these pedals. The tone controls are slow to react. Also when switching channels there is a noticeable lull in switching.. Not great if playing live and you want to quickly change channels...

@nekkon1989 Жыл бұрын

I'd rather play through an amp any day. Even plugins sound a lot better. No offence, Thomann, it was an amazing video

@pads-zr9ln Жыл бұрын

I was watching andertons do the tone master Princeton, they went how does it sound with fuzz, shit was the answer and they quickly moved on

@Mitch-6-Strings Жыл бұрын

You can play these pedals through the front of your amp or via you FX loop.

@HEZ63 Жыл бұрын

Just the same scratchy transistor, op-amp tones, which almost every other drive pedal also offers to me. What I do not hear, are tones, which really can compete with the real tube amps.