I love it when cheaters develop an ego and are like "I'm in a completely winning position, time to finish it on my own", like bruh.

i like how you specified its a stockfish cheater, not to be confused with the push up cheater, who is you.

Imagine that cheater is a dad who plays well up until he starts letting his kids suggest his moves because he likes them getting interested in chess.

Can we just appreciate how well the Gotham sub played? He played some really good moves.

I can officially say everyone thought the piece sounds were already on

I was Gotham sub, Levy just made absolutely amazing content out of something I didn't think was that good. Just a few notes: 3:51 - I played d5 because I really wanted to give that smothered mate, so me kick rook 5:41 - Yes that was hilarious, I actually did not take the pawn on purpose because I wanted to fully focus on checkmate in the fewest moves and I missed that the promotion is check 6:07 - LMAO 9:02 - I know it's bad but I like making that sacrifice because I like the open king, and it catches them off-guard. Breaks the boring board too. 11:41 - It was already obvious he was cheating but here I was like OKAY DUDE for sure, if you want to play perfect Vienna, come get me, I know it all.. 15:18 - ..up until this point. Everything was from my knowledge of the studies from the amazing Gotham Vienna course at chessly. So I kinda panicked at that point. 19:17 - Holy hell! You made me genuinely happy with the video, thank you Levy and xqcL. I'm going back to learn more Vienna/Caro theory

En passant is a brutal move no matter what. Also creates about 3 forum posts every day about “fake chess moves” It’s great.

Your analysis is actually incredible, these cheaters probably don't think they will be exposed if they cheat on and off during a game but I think you nailed the difference between their thought process and a computer's thought process. Good shit!

Shout out to Gotham for being featured on WIRED for chess cheating!

Sad how insecure a lot of people are that they'd cheat just to portray that they are better than they are.

8:44 every intermediate player immediately attacks the bishop every time

As many have already said, the sounds add a comfy layer to the audio. It’s honestly very satisfying and unobtrusive. Great addition

I would like to see a series where someone gets a winning position (+3, + 8, etc.) but has to play the rest of the game against Stockfish. I wonder how much of an advantage different rated players need to beat Stockfish).

as a professional 150 8:40 is a perfectly reasonable move

Imagine the sore loser you most be that you absolutely demolished a game and then you say "I'll show this guy for winning fair and square 🤓"

The 2nd game is not surprising without the first. The quality difference of the two is just unbelievable

Gotham sub really needs more praise, he really played very well. He knew his opening very thoroughly and I think he is on his way to becoming 1700 at least

came for the chess stayed for the sounds

I live how levy makes fun of the cheater but also praises stockfish for the insanely smart moves

Playing chess in low elo reminds me of playing low elo fps games. Its a mixed bag of playing with noobs - gamers - ex professional super nova grandmaster in one skill bracket. I never know if my next opponent is a returning master or a fresh off the bus meat puppet still learning how to move.

Let 's be real here, Levy uploaded this video just because he is so proud of his sub playing Vienna.

im a fan of the piece sounds, but a little softer/quieter would be much appreciated. amazing video, i love the playstyle of the subscriber, its very logical and clean

Just gonna say, the move g4 at 8:30 I saw all the time when playing around 13-1400. It is very common for lower rated players to push out bishops that way. Usually it's probably not a good move though.

these are my favorite chess videos on the internet. Taking down cheaters is both hilarious and satisfying. Super interesting too. Also the piece moves made nice sounds.

G4 is definitely a natural move for this level of play. Just a bit lower in terms of elo, bishops get trapped exactly like that all the time. You can get to 13/1400s lacking all sorts of knowledge and principles.

The sounds add a nice effect. At first, I was afraid they would be too distracting, but you made them the perfect volume.

In the second game I actually saw the brilliant move, which I am proud of, but if I did it I would have blundered one move later and somehow lost.

If two cheaters played with the best stockfish its always a draw

Just saw you on Wired! Wanted to say you did a really good job there!

Stockfish really speaks for itself!

8:30 “why would you do that?” Me a 800 who has played this move *multiple* times: uhhhh… well… 😬😅

I like the sounds and volume fine. I’ve noticed lately people caught cheating against me have had a mix of wins and losses. It’s not just someone winning every game anymore.

I really like the addition of pieces sounds, and I’d love to see the time control next to their profiles. Great video!

The chess sounds were good, I wouldn't make them louder than that but I liked it.

18:56 "Me attack rook"

8:43 "every normal person focases on something else" me who actually sometimes plays like this to bait the enemy 😂

Okay, that was the funniest attempt at cheating I've ever seen 🤣🤣

Maybe he just called his older brother to play chess for him 🙂

That move at 19:53 made me lol for real, not just a chuckle or a smile, and im probably the worst chess player alive

Gotham Sub is a very good player, and should be congratulated for his exceptional play!!

Ngl I watch just about every upload and never even really noticed the sounds weren’t there. Come for the commentary and the recaps, it’s not pivotal to hear the pieces but definitely didn’t mind them. Keep up the awesome vids 🎉

Most cheaters set up positions in midgame, so you might experience a long thinking time, followed with devastatingly accurate moves in short consistent time.

love the sounds love these vids exposing cheaters brother!

I’ve actually been shocked at the number of times I’ve gotten your queen trap line in the Vienna. I’m only hovering around 1000 but I swear I see Qf6 after Qg4 more than half the time. Usually they mess up worse than the actual line leaves them before we get much further but still

I love seeing Levy collaborate with other channels like wired, legal eagle,...

Its so funny how this guy suddenly became fully trained vienna player in the span of 2 games

Gotta love your enthusiasm while narrating matches.

Another great video and the sounds are a cool addition. Cheaters will learn one day. Just study and learn like the rest of us. The results are more worth it in the end.

New viewer here, went back and watched an older video, and I definitely like hearing the chess piece noises. Very satisfying.

As someone who plays like three games a year, a very casual beginner, watching the cheater's moves when they had the engine turned off was hilarious. Like, even someone as inexperienced as me, someone who couldn't name a single opening (except now the Vienna, I guess), could tell that the player was utterly incompetent, never looking more than about half a move ahead if that. If even I can tell it's bad play, it must be VERY bad.

“why is the king getting involved!?” 😂😂❤

17:38 Her: you can’t speak R2-D2 Gotham:

Had it coming.

New York, NY (AP) Anonymous chess player “Cheater” sues Gotham Chess for $100M over cheating allegations.

13:41 he moved a pawn to make Sub's bishop retreat at a4, so he could take it by queen with check, if I'm not missing anything (that exactly how I would've done it)

15:25 - I concluded on Qc4 as well. It allows for the involvement of both Bishops. But, like most patzers, I didn't consider what the proper response would be.

Love the content levy. I don’t really play chess but you’ve got me into this world with the guess the elos and I can’t thank you enough for it! Much love!

So basically the reason that g4 is a good move in that scenario for the second game is because it forces any attack and pressure off that kings side in initial development allowing for a less aggressive push in most games. It basically keeps black off kings side for a while and gives you the chance to get more centered development by not having to worry about kings side attacks in the early game.

5:08 this descent into confused frustration is gold

Love your content Levy, thanks for the video

Hope you have a great day Levy, the piece sounds are alright ^^

You should make this a series. Something like “hacker review” where viewers send in games where they think the enemy cheated and you review the analysis

I don’t even play chess but this was funny. That last match at the end was hilarious. Even I could tell he didn’t know what he was doing and neither would I 😂

I'm not a good player by any means but I can handle blindfold positions, especially openings. Move sounds are great because I often cook or do something else while listening to the moves. These make it slightly easier to follow sometimes. Also the sounds are quite a bit ASMR ngl.

6:08 the reaction nearly made me spit take. Also funny that the first rematch was a huge mistake but the second rematch was entirely worth the wait

As someone viewing from outside of the chess community it seems to me it’s gotten to a point where the people who can most effectively cheat are already good chess players. It also seems like when playing online chess the only ways to recognize are not really enough unless theyre doing it blatantly/poorly or have limited knowledge of chess and it shows. Im sure theres endless amounts of accusations just like the recent ones by magnus that cant be proven. Gives a lot of room for cheaters and also for chessmasters to write off a loss as someone cheating.

To be fair, if I was in the position, I would have done the bishop knight trap in game 2, but and I probably wouldn't have taken the bishop immedicably. Its a good tactic I've used when lossing a game before. Bishop pair for me. Loss at the end.

Love the piece sounds. Great video btw Gotham

It says everything about the quality of your commentary that you have almost 2 million subs when you havent even had piece sounds till now

My thoughts on the sounds: When there are a lot of moves, especially in openings when you kind of rush through, it makes it difficult to focus on what you're saying. The rest of the time it's fine. Conclusion is, personally if you're gonna use sounds, maybe only turn them on after the opening? Is that a hassle? Idk. Great video as always!

Loved the sounds. Adds more to the video but is no overwhelming

I can see this video and wired’s video sharpening cheater tactics. Especially the consistent move timing one

Ngl its very likely I'd play that Qc4 move in a game (3rd game). 1600 rapid and I love not allowing my opponent to castle like that. I pretty much take the chance whenever I can because I'm a very agressive player and castling makes things much harder for me.

When you start shouting moves in an epic way "KNIGHT TO E6, BRILLIANT MOVE!!!!!!" I just can't help but laugh 🤣

The Vienna switcheroo is crazy this is the best line and I never ever face it

A good way of cheating will be deliberately choosing not the best moves at random moves

finally a "cheater" video without Hans 👍🏼

11:00 should unironically be added to the tactics trainer/puzzle rush in my opinion, beautiful sequence

“Why is the king getting involved…?” I lost it completely cause I’ve totally never done that before /s

Great video Levy! I think I prefer the piece sounds more than without, but I don't have a keen preference either way.

It was nice with sound and the volume was ok too. Don't turn it up, as it can be too loud then, but this was very comfortable to watch and listen to 👍

8:35 I do that when I'm on a losing streak with "screw your pins, damn it" or "not this sht again man" kind of thoughts when doing this.

0:30 Ooh! You mentioned that!

If I was playing, 20:18 would be a stalemate!

19:26 - best snort-laugh I've heard in a long time!! :)

I love the Vienna and Caro like "a good gotham sub"

6:08 And to add onto this, the King is getting involved in an attempt to take down a QUEEN, the literal only piece aside from the other King themself that the King cannot capture by himself. 9:10 That felt like such a genuine reaction and I love it

As a level 750 player, I am sure I have done those very moves you say are not common to make. Granted the follow ups arent quite there, if they were, I would be a level 1300 player, but still, sometimes the brilliance shines through. I like to play the confuse the crap out of the other party and sacrifice half the board for a move that might or might not work. Hence my win rate is total garbage, but it is just such a beautiful thing when it all artfully works out.

Irigaisi explained the position well compared to another GM who blundered his game in the post-game interviews. lol

8:40 I am very flattered as 600 player to hear that my natural move is brilliant

I’ve been playing the bots a lot and when you pin the knight (e.g. bishop g4 pinning knight to the queen), stockfish will always kick the bishop with the pawn and if you retreat the bishop it will play g4 every time. Humans rarely play that, but the bots always do.

I never noticed that there were no piece sounds, but now that you added them, it kinda bothers me a little

this was so funny...half game cheat, half game on your own. Please do more videos like this.

Love the channel Levy, I have a 1032 rating, and to be honest the pawn moves that attack the bishop I learned from playing against myself and looking for the best moves (with stockfish), and I have seen those moves really often when playing the spanish game so I didnt see anything weird there, also when watching the video, the knight to D4 was also something that I didnt find fishy, the only thing for me would be the consistency of the moves. I know might not be the best strategy to improve but I know several people that practice playing against stockfish and seeing the best moves, maybe thats why a lot of low rated player may look like cheaters.

I love piece sounds, id love it if you continued using them

I like the sounds, its nice to help keep attention to the moves adhd approved 👌

I'm about 1150 right now, but I only know how to fianchetto. I play super-defensively until the opponent blunders big when I anticipate a few 4-5 move exchanges that win material. I generally end up letting the opponent into the middle two ranks, and when I lose, it is generally because I have less room to move and open properly. I basically play as if I'm trying to let the opponent's pieces freeze to death. Will learning a few better openings and responses to openings better be just a small advantage, or will it be something that gets me to 1300 or more?

The fact he faced stockfish for like 10 moves and was tied equal until he blundered

These cheaters seem like the type of people to rage quit at rock, paper, scissors...

@8:46 is actually the move I would've played in that exact same situation, without any bot or cheating... Been doing that move for years and it works out for me, in like 80% of the time. Same for the move on @13:27, would be also one that would come to mind, just to put some pressure on my opponent.