GOTHIC METAL: A DEEP DIVE

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4 ай бұрын

Here is my deep dive into the subgenre of gothic metal; a unique style rooted in a blend of doom metal and gothic rock. In this video, I discuss the origins of the genre, the musical facets that define it, and some of its most essential artists and albums.
Songs featured in video;
Sadness - Ames de Marbre
Monumentum - Nephtali (demo)
Sadness - Danteferno
Sirrah - Passover 1944
The Sins of Thy Beloved - All Alone (demo)
Trail of Tears - Temptress
Flowing Tears & Withered Flowers - Purple Red Soul
Pyogenesis - It’s On Me
Via Mistica - Valley of Fear
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@reinieden2379 4 ай бұрын

Monotheist is straight up one of the best metal albums I've ever heard

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

I love it, truly creepy album

@skivers8320 4 ай бұрын

Amazing watch! As a long time gothic metal fan, it’s awesome to see people talking about it more. Tristania is a lifelong favorite- nothing really tops Widow’s Weeds and Beyond the Veil for me.

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Widow’s Weeds, Beyond the Veil, and World of Glass are three of the best albums in the entire genre for me.

@medd1990 4 ай бұрын

Good overview 🤘 I liked especially how you described at 13:03 how artists moved on to new shores. Change is the only constant.

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Thank you! I really like how some more recent artists are going out of their way to tie back in to a distinctly 80’s sounding goth influence.

@Rottedhead666 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video dude. Gothic metal is one of those genres that I am interested in but never really dived into it. Stuff like the Peaceville Three has been in my list of pending listens forever and now I have a big list of bands to check out. Keep doing this!

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy what you find of theirs, the albums I mentioned are some of my all-time favorites!

@terrypmusic 3 ай бұрын

00:31 Very nice..

@dante_dagger 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@tatache5971 4 ай бұрын

Nice to see some new material! I was an avid Type O listener some years ago, and still today it's one of my favourites. I also know of several other bands you quoted, even if I don't consider myself as a gothic metal guy.

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Glad you dig it!!

@tommasoluchetti8796 3 ай бұрын

Great video. It would be interesting to analize also the opposite side of things, so goth bands influenced by metal, such as new skeletal faces. Or the influence of goth on some black metal

@dante_dagger 3 ай бұрын

One of my next videos will actually be a deep dive on ethereal wave!

@attilarza 4 ай бұрын

Another interesting vid, i always thought Gothic were inspired by German Darkwave in the 80s. Daniel Pharos (from Worship) had a side project called: Beyond the Void, an amazing Gothic doom act. P.S I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention Lacrimas Profundere, my all time favorite Gothic Dark...favorite album?!Burning: A Wish ❤️

@nrothe2898 4 ай бұрын

A+ Dante! Liked and subscribed! 😜

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Thanks mane!

@Travelhead7598 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the video, I think you sum up Goth Metal history really well. I discovered Gothic Metal through Theatre of Tragedy and, Aegis is my favorite album in this genre. I love the Goth Rock and Doomy blending and Liv Kristine's vocals. Beyond that Draconian is amazing and with Under A Godless Veil they reached a great level in this genre. Could be the best goth-doom metal band nowadays.

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree, I think Under a Godless Veil is one of the best albums in the genre in a very long time!

@macabremanscape3226 4 ай бұрын

I find this topic endlessly fascinating (obviously, gothic metal is my favorite genre), and I appreciate your nuance when talking about this. I personally find it really frustrating when people describe gothic metal as just heavy metal + goth rock, because I feel like what they are describing is not necessarily representative of the part of the genre I prefer (I am definitely more of a beauty and the beast person). But it's interesting to really see where these sounds kind of overlap into each other. Of course the albums that to me best represent the genre would be very different, I didn't really start getting into Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride until very recently, despite being a fan of the genre for... 17 years? Boy, does time fly. Anyway, my entry point was a combination of Evanescence and Within Temptation, so I literally started with most commercial, and have walked back into the more extreme stuff with time... So much good stuff out there!

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

It was interesting to me when I got into ethereal wave and neoclassical darkwave how much some of the beauty and the beast bands resemble those artists. Like if you take The Sins of Thy Beloved’s song “Until the Dark” and then compare it to Love Spirals Downwards’ first album, it almost sounds like they could have been the same artist.

@GoonToThrones 4 ай бұрын

Glad to see a new vid, do you think you'd ever discuss or do a deep dive of MSW and his projects Hell or Cloud? Keep it up Dante much luv! OH....Type O Negative or Cradle of Filth

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Yes, I would like to do one on MSW, I just need to learn more about him. I enjoy his work though!

@siebensunden 3 ай бұрын

Not fan of this music style yet still your video is informative and interesting. Here is my tip for everyone who doesn't know it, Australia's Avrigus with their album "The Secret Kingdom".

@dante_dagger 3 ай бұрын

Excellent suggestion. Beautiful cross between darkwave and doom

@project9326 4 ай бұрын

I'm surprised you did this whole video without mentioning Carl McCoy/FOTN/The Nefilim (British Gothic/Death from the same era as PL & MDB). Early FOTN was like an angrier Sisters of Mercy but McCoy's later work got heavier from there. His best shit IMO was from "Zoon," forward...

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

So many artists to squeeze in so little hard drive space unfortunately. I do love Fields of the Nephilim as well as his Zoon album. I’ll have to find another video to speak about it on!

@project9326 4 ай бұрын

@@dante_dagger bro McCoy is mad underrated (a mutual friend of ours linked me to this btw). But yeah, the vid is mad thorough. The goth scene in America sadly didn't pick up much outside of Type O because of 1. The Nü-metal scene's popularity at that time 2. The American Metal scene was way more toxic & homophobic at the time so the more Gothic influences in Evanescence & Manson were mostly written off as "gay." It's a shame considering how rich the Gothic Metal sound has become in European scenes.

@Walkingwraith 4 ай бұрын

My entrance was HIM, however afterwards my favorite band (of all time) became Katatonia. In which I started seeking sounds similar to Katatonia. So yeah gothic metal may have ruined my life. Or made it better, depends on your interpretation.

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Katatonia is a big one for me!

@Walkingwraith 4 ай бұрын

@@dante_dagger I’m also really big on the band Bethlehem, I don’t know if they are considered gothic metal by most but I adore Bethlehem.

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

@@WalkingwraithI love Bethlehem! I definitely think a few of their mid era albums could be considered gothic metal. SUIZID had some gothic metal/post-punk elements in the mix as well.

@ohms497 4 ай бұрын

I think of Alice Cooper. 😈💀

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

Nice!

@brayermoth 4 ай бұрын

I am genuinely convinced people who don't think goth metal is goth music just don't understand anything about music

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

It’s surprising to me how aggressively debated it is.

@Flux799 2 ай бұрын

Jack Black 3:36 😂

@dante_dagger 2 ай бұрын

Oh shit, I can totally see that

@attilarza 4 ай бұрын

Another interesting vid, i always thought Gothic were inspired by German Darkwave in 80s. Daniel Pharos (from Worship) had a side project called: Beyond the Void, an amazing Gothic doom act. P.S I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention Lacrimas Profundere, my all time favorite Gothic Dark...favorite album?!Burning: A Wish ❤️

@dante_dagger 4 ай бұрын

I do enjoy Lacrimas Profundere! Memorandum is my favorite of theirs.