Tried a FEW, settled into a 1791 pancake for my 1911 commander. Concealed carry, loose t-shirt, and shorts has me covered. Open carry just perfection. For 50 bucks, and the thick solid construction can't find better elsewhere, 1791 leather competes with 100 dollar holsters all day.
@srkwixdraw2 жыл бұрын
A lot depends on the conditions you are carrying in too. If you spend a great deal of time driving I like a cross draw as it allows me to draw around the seatbelt better and to be turned toward where I feel a threat is most likely to present itself.. Shoulder holsters have some merit here also.
@garyK.45ACP2 жыл бұрын
For 1911s I use the El Paso Saddlery "Combat Express" which is similar to the the holster you called the "Askins Avenger" but is shorter, more like a belt slide. It is open bottom and will accommodate any barrel length. Neutral cant.
@pepperdog37614 жыл бұрын
Have always and will always use 1791 pancake holsters, very well made. Of course I could care less about printing, when someone ask I just tell them it's a colostomy bag they seem to move on after that:)
@yamahapeanut443 жыл бұрын
1791 has terrible customer service and is one of the worst holsters I have ever owned. Is yours still holding up?
@waynecastleman13633 жыл бұрын
That's funny good move Lol.
@panman25682 жыл бұрын
Lol that’s hilarious. I’m gonna have to steal that one from you bro
@wiggsan2 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!
@lorenwegele7517 Жыл бұрын
That's funny!
@jeffcordle86282 жыл бұрын
I have used a lot of different holsters (leather and kydex) for concealed carry and always seem to gravitate to the Milt Sparks Summer Special 2.
@AndiRose21 Жыл бұрын
I have a JM4 Tactical in Left & Right hand for all the guns I carry. What makes it awesome is that no belt necessary. They can be used with Activewear as well as with the belt.
@waynecastleman13633 жыл бұрын
For me the Galco Combat master Speed paddle holster fill my needs perfectly. I love the beautiful leather they use and fits like a glove. They look great and they wear very comfortable.
@MemoriesRR5 жыл бұрын
I learn a lot from your posts. Keep them coming. Thank you.
@ashleydaniels18512 жыл бұрын
The things I learn when I watch this channel. Thank you guys for doing what you do for the 2A community.
@robbabcock_3 жыл бұрын
I feel like these two have forgotten more about firearms lore than most people will ever know. It's amazing to hear Ken talk about those early holster pioneers with such in depth knowledge, and cool that he actually knew some of them. However, I must be one of the few guys that never wound up with that proverbial "big box of holsters." I was fortunate to find something that worked fairly early on. Then when my needs changed a bit I was even more fortunate to discover Garrett Industries holsters. I guess I have a box worth of holsters but they're all the same model but for ten different sidearms.
@churchkp5 жыл бұрын
I’m 1st holster purchase was a Lo-Pro II from Wilson in black elephant and it’s still my EDC some 2 yrs later. I did purchase as 2nd Lo-Pro II in black leather for my backpack carry. They are outstanding! Great video guy.
@charlesharper72922 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting video! I can't get comfortable with an iwb an I don't wear belts so owb don't work. I've been wearing a great shoulder holster that Stoner holster made for me . Fits my SA 1911 perfectly. Due to a tension device I don't need the thumb strap. In the summer I throw a light fishing shirt over it, and when it gets colder, a vest or a jacket. For me, it's the best choice. I carry every day around ten hours a day.
@DrumandPianoDude3 жыл бұрын
Great videos gentlemen! I'm over 300lbs, and I use the Crossbreed style IWB holsters on my strong side very comfortably. The secret is, you must wear pants about two sizes to big to accommodate the weapon.
@richardshippful2 жыл бұрын
6'2 285. Hybrids rock. I just need one for my Staccato, with TLR7a
@thinman86213 жыл бұрын
Please come back and talk about the hybrid holsters that are constructed of both leather and kydex. Also, appendix carry is very popular. Please talk about that kind of carry -- safety and design.
@slmyatt4 жыл бұрын
Love my Ken Null UNS iwb horse hide holster. Large beating surface makes it incredibly comfortable, with fast draw and good natural retention.
@DavidLLambertmobile2 жыл бұрын
Null is well known for gun belts.
@paulwilliamson20675 жыл бұрын
Good, informative video with an adult format. More, please.
@elliott1tom5 жыл бұрын
I don't know anywhere else that has this much experience packed into one video. You keep producing these videos and I will keep watching. I always learn something new.
@C0R3655 жыл бұрын
I've got a powergut, and carry appendix with no ill symptoms. Kydex no less. Leather is better for comfort.
@thomascarpenter74152 жыл бұрын
I can’t thank you guys enough for this video series ! Keep up the great work 🇺🇸
@richardshippful2 жыл бұрын
My Sparks Versa Max II worked very well with a Full size 1911. Comfortable, concealable I wore it 42 hours continuosly when bugging out from Hurricane Rita. I like the Comp Tac, or Cross Breed hybrids, super comfortable, concealable at 2:45 with a Glock 17 or 19. Now with my Staccato P with a light and rds it is harder to find one. I run a QVO discreet for my P with 507c, TLR7a.
@HopsAndLead5 жыл бұрын
I've been carrying appendix for about 2 months and it's a lot more comfortable than 4:30. I am 5 foot 10 and 170 pounds 🤷♂️
@phillipcastro23944 жыл бұрын
Id say you have to find you're own comfort level in my opinion not everyone is going to like the same thing
@meandthemrs74034 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Sounds like you don't have the middle age gut. (Yet). Wish I could say the same.
@rickyramirez34832 жыл бұрын
You guys rock! This vid does not get old! I’m into leather holsters now and I went back ol’ school! 🇵🇷👍🏻AIR ASSAULT!
@arieheath77734 жыл бұрын
I generally carry at around the 4 o’clock position with an OWB Galco holster. Beretta 92 compact with Wilson grips and the d hammer spring. I just conceal it with a 5.11 concealment vest. It’s light enough to not give me any problems in California heat.
@jasestrong Жыл бұрын
Great video , very informative !
@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jko05264 жыл бұрын
Boxes of holsters that don’t work for me! I hear ya there...
@ninjaswordtothehead3 жыл бұрын
Daily carry a Ruger EC9; couldn't agree more, I think I spent almost as much on a comfortable holster as I did on the pistol.
@philmeyer22692 жыл бұрын
I use a Kramer Vertical scabbard horsehide holster
@zack99120005 жыл бұрын
Love my Galco IWB holster.
@fd42925 жыл бұрын
Very informative thank you!
@PurrsPlace2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this education and I really enjoy your videos that include Mr. Mas Ayoob. I am looking to get a quality holster for my 1911 (my first!); information like this is exactly what I'm looking to find out before I make any purchases. By purchasing and using a product, I feel like I am essentially endorsing that product. That makes my research all the more important to me. Thank you for your perspectives! =)
@kb9liq2 жыл бұрын
Started out with a pancake holster some 39 years ago and still a great option for me
@CFairNH5 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos and the content you bring to us. Thanks for another good one!
@cjcutter15715 жыл бұрын
Great one fellas! If you don’t have a drawer full your doing it wrong!
@bigcountry87262 жыл бұрын
Great video! I like IWB carry but Leather IWB loses form after drawn and hard to re-holster during drills, or at least for me.
@richardshippful2 жыл бұрын
You need hold open support like a Milt Sparks
@fastheads23325 жыл бұрын
Great information.
@boomanh635 жыл бұрын
I have used a Wilson pancake holster for ages. Nothing I have used before and since is as comfortable.
@noelr25025 жыл бұрын
Please keep these videos coming. This experience and knowledge is appreciated greatly. Thanks gents
@stevejenkins60455 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. I also have a box of holsters and if I had seen this early enough and I listened, it would have been a lot smaller. I typically carry concealed and while most of my concealed carry has been inside the waistband, my current favorite is a pancake style leather holster outside the waistband holster. With any cover garment I am likely to wear it conceals just as well as any holster I have and it is by far the most comfortable I have used. The other thing I have learned is that trying to save the last nickel on a holster purchase is essentially throwing money away. Buy a good quality product, pay the money and do it once. Thanks again for the great and informative video.
@KFGHQ2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. You gentleman are very knowledgeable. Keep up the great work!
@terrybaker57282 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, I really enjoy watching your channel . I have some of the Roy Baker pancake holsters especially since I’m from Magnolia and also a Baker,
@SheepDog442 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing gentlemen. Great content as always
@paulg4444 жыл бұрын
Id love to hear their take on the urbancarry patented concept..
@steveb61033 жыл бұрын
🤢🤮
@joewilliam93154 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks!
@SlimRhyno4 жыл бұрын
There's an old saying, "Never meet your heroes." Well I'm glad I don't follow directions that well, because Ken Hackathon is everything he seems and more. Some people just get it, and he's one of the few. He understands when to be an instructor, and when to be a buddy. There's a time and place for both, and he walks that line with ease. If I could recommend one guy to take a class from it would be him.
@RKHarm245 жыл бұрын
My first off duty holster was a Roy Baker pancake with a thumb snap.
@hillsr2 жыл бұрын
@0:04 every time I hear this intro music I think some good breakfast is coming my way
@DavidLLambertmobile3 жыл бұрын
I'm 50 & a armed security officer 👮🏻♂️, US Army veteran 🎗. I've used a few styles, designs. I had a Aker leather shoulder rig for my Beretta 96D pistol. Late 1990s. I also wore SERPAs for a time, 2000s. Now, Safariland TS7 ALS holsters in FDE or black is what I carry mostly. I purchased a Blackhawk T series holster but I'm not a big fan. 😏 Many cadre & sworn LE do not allow SERPAs. I had 1 break on me but it was more my rough use, improper methods. Many old school gunners & agents like 🐴 horse hide. Kydex is popular but not for all uses.
@RKHarm245 жыл бұрын
Very good video with very useful info.
@LatestHour4 жыл бұрын
If I had a Wilson Combat it would be in a glass display case, not in a holster where it would get rubbed. But the people who can afford these probably own several.
@guitarman48993 жыл бұрын
" AJack of all trades is the master of none, but Often times better than the master of one." Other than that great video ! Thank you! Keep it up!
@iamanovercomer32535 жыл бұрын
1st time gun owner. Getting a Glock 48. Wasn't sure about inside the pants ( which means pants 2 sizes bigger ) or outside. The pancake style holster looks very good - I think I will look at it
@richardshippful2 жыл бұрын
IWB conceals MUCH better as by design they tilt the grip into your body. Get a design with a sweat shield for more comfort.
@darrenbishop43275 жыл бұрын
I only carry with a pancake holster that's leather unless I need to be out in the woods. Leather is still the most comfortable and quietest way to carry
@waynecastleman13633 жыл бұрын
For me I've found nothing better for everyday carry then the Galco holsters, generally speaking horsehide is of a higher quality in making EDC holsters in that it's characteristics are durable and breathable which helps to sustain overall quality , comfort in higher temperatures and form. Personally the Combat Master and Speed Paddle holsters serve me well. Their are other fine makers as well and to each their own. For EDC I prefer leather especially for the nicer handguns and you'll want to look sharp at the next barbeque.
@perryparsons99602 жыл бұрын
3 best I've found, a Miami Classic shoulder holster for the big handguns, a Sneaky Pete outside the waistband generic Cordura cellphone looking case, and a Galco gay ass looking fanny pack cross draw that has the barrel of my Glock 26 pointed away from the body. In the woods that is my personal favorite, can wear it all day, squat, bend over, work, get caught in the rain, wade creeks, and honestly will forget it is there. Laugh if you want, but it truly is the most comfortable carry option I've ever found. Like yall, have a suitcase full of holsters, ankle holsters, belly bands, some I paid more for than I did some firearms, that just never worked.
@deepb2492 жыл бұрын
Damn more on h then on g
@82lowe36id5 жыл бұрын
Love these videos!
@tylerboyd44594 жыл бұрын
Leather is cool but I prefer the kydex style for shape and customization.
@DavidLLambertmobile2 жыл бұрын
I'm in a hot, humid climate 🏖. Polymer like TS7 Safariland, kydex works well. Leather from a quality brand like Muddy River, Kramer, Mitch Rosen, Kirkpatrick, Galco, Milt Sparks can do well.
@steveg35935 жыл бұрын
I could listen to ya'll talk about BB guns!
@johnnypipe5 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, gentlemen.
@nikdrown5 жыл бұрын
I have a couple Bianchi holsters IwB and out. The inside makes carrying a 1911 really comfortable and the outside pancake is possible for CC but I don’t ever bother. If you don’t know don’t let someone tell you can’t carry a 1911. I’m tall guy but not big and have no problems with it being uncomfortable or bulky. Just get the right holster for you and it will take care of that
@jameskelly97112 жыл бұрын
would love for you to get Mas in to evaluate current duty holsters.
@lennybuis91144 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear their take on paddle holsters
@jamesvitale33255 жыл бұрын
Bill I have a few Richie Holsters located in Amherst New York they are all leather very good quality you should look into them also
@richardkramer10943 жыл бұрын
A pancake holster just seems more natural. With a 31 waste, even at 60, the most comfortable concealable position is 3:30 area. The pancake is the only holster I have for all my sidearms and it works well both for daily carry and at the range. It has been my philosophy, after 24 years of military service, to practice and compete with what you have and learn how to work with possible flaws in the system…it’ll make you a much better shooter.
@bobbychuckles87642 жыл бұрын
What belt do you use?
@yamahapeanut443 жыл бұрын
Safariland, jm kydex and phlster are all I will own now.
@joshuanattinger96945 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos. Very informative and has broadened my views on several subjects. They are hard to hear though. Is there a way to fix that?
@donaldjohnston73893 жыл бұрын
Try Bluetooth makes it very clear to hear n volume control
@charlesward81963 жыл бұрын
Anybody tried the Wilderness systems SafePacker? I have used one for over 10 years. It has been EDC for me since Newtown, MA in “tool-free” zones without a single problem, even when someone hugged me on my strong side. Comfortable, excellent retention, easily moves from belt to hand carry, it is well padded, and carries an extra magazine. It is easy to draw and re-holster and re-snap quietly, one-handed, unlike a Velcro equipped one, and you never have to point at your own anatomy like an IWB. It is easily covered by an open fleece vest, (black fleece vest is ideal as the pack blends into the color and shape of the outer garment). It does not print a frame shape, and it is low enough not to require an awkward high draw. The Cordura nylon is durable, and the pack easily slides on either a trouser belt, or even a very large padded day-pack hip belt where it nicely blends with the other pack straps and buckles. The pack comes in a wide variety of sizes and colors and you can customize your SafePacker by adding a sewn or Velcroed patch featuring an EMS, Fire or Hello Kitty logo to hide in plain sight. If someone asks what the pack is, tell them it is your diabetes testing and insulin kit. By skipping one or two belt loops on the strong side, the pack easily can be shifted from the 2:00 to the 4:30 position as you move in and out of vehicles. Not the fastest on the draw, but this is urban EDC, not IPSC. It does not take any longer to draw than a simultaneous move to the nearest cover or concealment. I operate under the assumption that there will be some sort of environmental indicators to forewarn of an impending incident and to complete a timely draw. If a situation is sufficiently sketchy, strategy requires you to stay away. A contact that begins to evolve into a verbal altercation is a sign to immediately de-escalate by apologizing meekly and profusely and backing away as quickly as possible. If you are responding to screams for help, there is time to draw before arriving at the incident, assuming you are determined to intervene in somebody else’s problem and make it your own. If you are reacting to the sounds of shots fired, then you have time to move to cover while sizing up the situation, developing a tactical plan, determining the number and location of opponents, etc., unless your move is to heedlessly rush in like an invulnerable super-hero. If you are sufficiently “strategic” you won’t have to get “tactical.” Part of being strategic is avoiding the kinds of places, times and situations that require an IPSC draw, like bank lobbies, convenience store cash registers, ATM’s, and other predator target zones. Get your drug dealer to accept debit cards and ship by FedEx Ground. If you have to complete a commercial transaction in person, do it in a crowded public place. The more people there are in an environment the more people the perpetrator has to watch, so you have more opportunities for surreptitious draw when the other guy is distracted and watching someone else. If you have to walk to your car in a darkened parking lot after hours, maybe even draw on your way to your vehicle, and secure the perimeter of your transitional (See John Correa of Active Self Protection) space before entering your vehicle.
@diggLincoln4 жыл бұрын
I could have saved thousands this and going straight to my pancake style cross breed.. absolutely amazing
@SHOT_GUNNER2 жыл бұрын
I have never been able to appendix carry comfortably. I carry strong side 3 o’ clock. IWB
@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate.
@ghostdog20413 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 31 inch waist, and I have learned that unless it’s a subcompact single stack, the grip is going to jut off of my body. And the claw add on helps, but it pulls my pants away from my waist in an odd way. Four to five o’clock is about the only way I can carry without giving away the fact that I’ve got a gun.
@shadowprepper93582 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, same waist size, I carry a full size 1911 and the rear sight always protrudes a bit. Upside, I live in AZ, so I open carry 65% of the year , as for the slight protrusion, I don't much care to be honest.
@zososldier Жыл бұрын
Carry appendix. I have the same waist size and conceal a G19+red dot+extra mag without issue. I'm also not going to break my hip if I fall on my butt.
@djswerve88875 жыл бұрын
Great information
@TheRonald65244 жыл бұрын
Two super cooool cats! That really know there stuff! Could watch these videos all day long! And I do. When I’m not at work. Or the range.
@timewing46113 жыл бұрын
I carry a Glock, and I wouldn’t use or recommend anything other than kydex with something that completely covers the trigger guard. Only way I’d use leather or something flimsy is if I’m going to carry a hammer fired pistol with a heavy double action pull
@DavidLLambertmobile2 жыл бұрын
I got a new Muddy River Tactical leather rig for my Walther PDP 9mm. The leather can scuff a bit but the QC is great. I broke it in, wore the 9mm with 0 problems.
@bobbychuckles87642 жыл бұрын
.....or a 1911 cocked and locked... perfectly safe.
@RoadTraveler Жыл бұрын
Algorithm bump. Milt Sparks Holsters 👏👍
@ReichenbachEsq3 жыл бұрын
Who made Joyce’s holster? My wife may want to order one as well.
@antonw-uw4ov4 жыл бұрын
I think they missed a few types, the race-holsters and shoulder holsters come to mind.
@RKHarm245 жыл бұрын
I remember the Sally Brown belts designed for female LEO's
@TheBandit595 жыл бұрын
What about shoulder rigs, did you not mention one because it's too hot there? My Stoner horizontal rig is so comfortable, and you can change it out to other model firearms?I also have a huge box of very expensive holsters!
@rueridge75975 жыл бұрын
Please do shoulder holster video. Lot of us use
@guitarman48992 жыл бұрын
Love your vids
@rjzlwop3153 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you, I have a question. What if you don’t wear shorts or pants that require a belt? What type of holster is available for it?
@markhamersly16642 жыл бұрын
Guys, What happened to the paddle holster? I'm a retired Fed, and have ALWAYS carried in Aker or Blackhawk paddle holsters. Hammer INS/ICE/CBP, Retired 40+year Firearms Instructor
@whoknows8678 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what their takes on pocket holsters/carry are. I'm guessing not very good since that style wasn't even mentioned here in this video.
@petesykes7526 Жыл бұрын
Looking for a holster that will fit an EDC X9 with red dot.
@LS10075 жыл бұрын
Paddle holsters are another option.
@MrSanteeclaus5 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a box full of holsters owb iwb pancakes paddles mollies shoulder rigs- leather - polymers- nylon - if is made I have wasted money on one.
@panama-canada Жыл бұрын
What about pocket holster?
@tacticaloutdoors7553 Жыл бұрын
I'm 5'10" and I have a long torso haha, short legs 😂
@matortiz23224 жыл бұрын
I only prefer leather but I've never tried kydex
@mgallager14492 жыл бұрын
I love my pancakes holster ( GALCO / ARKER LEATHER GOOD).
@justinmielsch5924 Жыл бұрын
I edc a full size 1911. Any recommendations on a iwb holster my current one is very uncomfortable so i have my owb holster which is comfy but i need more concealment
@rtaggs8178 Жыл бұрын
If you do physical labor for a living and sweat alot leather will never make it. That leather is sponge for sweat and gets all over the gun in turn. Go Kydex or similar like Safariland, they are easy to clean.
@craigadamkelly3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find a tuckable inside the waistband holster my EDC X9 wonder if you had any suggestions to look at
@user-lg4zm5nj8t2 жыл бұрын
"Flat belly Stallion " LMAO..
@jerezindraj6723 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Which MODEL MILT SPARKS I.W.B. GUN HOLSTER is that?
@paulfey99914 жыл бұрын
Confidence under battle conditions trumps target skills any day of the week. I am not a speed shooter , I'm not slow , but I don't rush my draw. I own 8 - 45 ACP 1911 pistols , AND 3 - 9MM 1911 PISTOLS, As I have gotten older I tried a 9mm with a comp. on it. It was OK , but not great, never could develop a uniform skill set with it. So, I went back to my 45 ACP and reloaded some lighter hollow points and kept my confidence level.
@danw71563 жыл бұрын
Yep, i have boxes of holsters that I never use
@raykirkwood1624 жыл бұрын
which holster recommendation for sitting in wheel chair?
@nosilverharbinger4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I find that a crossdraw style holster is excellent for being in a seated position because the handle of the firearm is pointing away from you.
@arieheath77734 жыл бұрын
You might want to try a fanny pack holster.
@williamminamoto.7535 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys.,,to share and important point..ya talk about leather.. damn it..is it that cheap ass chrome tanned., or a fine vegetable tanned holster.. like a pair of fine vegetable tanned NICKS BOOTS... 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@paulrampon11674 жыл бұрын
Would the Lo Profile pancake be good for my LTT Elite Compact?