Massad Ayoob: The Pros and Cons of AIWB, IWB and OWB Concealed Carry Positions

Massad Ayoob: The Pros and Cons of AIWB, IWB and OWB Concealed Carry Positions - Critical Mas Ep 15

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Which carry position on the belt works best for you? Massad Ayoob examines three different holster positions for concealed carry. Outside the Waistband, Inside the Waistband and the always controversial Appendix Carry. He goes through the pros and cons of each, to help you decide what style works for you.
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Critical Mas(s) with Massad Ayoob is a show that provides expert analysis over a wide range of contemporaneous topics related to civilian and law enforcement self defense, the use of force, and second amendment issues, provided by a renowned and established author with a career spanning decades in training law enforcement officers and the public at large, who is frequently called upon to provide expert witness testimony.
ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several state and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught
for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has
appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two
years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
0:00 - Introduction
0:35 - Wearing the right belt
1:40 - Overview of choices
2:30 - Terminology
3:30 - OWB Holsters
5:30 - IWB Holsters
9:00 - AIWB Holsters
14:40 - Assess what works for you
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@statiklingon 2 жыл бұрын

"Alternatively, you could diet and lose 2 inches, but this is America and I don't ask the ridiculous or the impossible." This man is a treasure.

@heartandmindovercome3214 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣😂😂

@raven4090 Жыл бұрын

For sure! 😆 🤣

@Lycan_24_7 Жыл бұрын

Said it monotone with a completely sttaight face 😁

@worldtravel101 Жыл бұрын

🏅

@idhughes1 Жыл бұрын

Hell of a head of hair as well 🤔

@j.demarco8937 Жыл бұрын

Massad Ayoob should be America's ONLY firearms instructor. No political bullshit. No fake tough guy bullshit. Just a knowledgeable human being giving out technical information.

@JacobC479 10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Way too many gun people are super political and have a certain attitude that is just off putting.

@j.p.4541 10 ай бұрын

Agreed, Massad doesn’t need to wear his younger brother’s t shirts to look cool. Man’s a legend.

@Spurioushamster 9 ай бұрын

I wish all gun enthusiasts were like him.

@seanm7539 9 ай бұрын

@@JacobC479 or they try to act like they’ve done and seen shit that they really haven’t done were they trying to go to high-speed operator with it to be like I’m tactical and I’m cool no you’re a fucking douche bag I would much rather take a pistol class from an actual veteran who knows what they’re talking about has actually been down range and etc. etc. but yeah it’s freaking annoying and that’s why Masada and Colion noir are good people to go to for info

@alijaffery7735 7 ай бұрын

@@JacobC479 Yup. I don’t need to hear their religious sermonizing, or about how abortion is murder, etc.

@camperspecial9666 2 жыл бұрын

I'm starting to re-watch Ayoob just for his dry sense of humor. Great commentary as always. Thank you Sir.

@sgtstedanko7186 2 жыл бұрын

He didn't get much water as a kid

@searchBLOC941 2 жыл бұрын

He rivals Clint Smith with his dry humor. Must be that generation. Lovin' it.

@TheCreedBratton 2 жыл бұрын

Dry humor is my favorite humor

@markiefufu 2 жыл бұрын

His joke about losing 2 inches in the waist got me to chuckle out loud. Almost woke up the wife. 🤣

@blueknight5754 Жыл бұрын

He reminds me of Lt. Kenda.

@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449 Жыл бұрын

I think this man is a fantastic pistol shot, however, I respect him so much because he never mentions it nor does he have tons of videos showing it. His videos are always geared toward helping us.

@Lavo68 Жыл бұрын

With his steely swagger, you just know his targeting skills are tops.

@oklahomahank2378 Жыл бұрын

@@Lavo68 Some of his championships can be found on line. If Ken Hackathorn says Ayoob is a good shot, he is.

@ahjeezrick 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love hearing this guy talk. “You could diet, but this is America, I don’t ask the ridiculous of the impossible”

@donkeypox1943 Жыл бұрын

Do you bulge when you hear is baritone?

@pwalms65 Жыл бұрын

@@donkeypox1943 That's cringe. Next, I can hear you say, "it's rubs the lotion on its skin"

@donkeypox1943 Жыл бұрын

@@pwalms65 "Come on Man" you gots to raw dogg it!

@stevemccormick3968 Жыл бұрын

I often carry my S&W Shield in the appendix position. It's easy to conceal and very comfortable. That being said there really is an issue with what the muzzle is pointing at. I am an ER nurse. I had a patient that got into a fistfight, drew his pistol from the appendix position and his opponent fled. Upon re-holstering he experienced an unintended discharge that shot off that all important appendage. BTW, alcohol was probably involved. He survived, but he wasn't happy. He actually said to me, "Hey, doc, if you can't save it, don't save me!" From that day forward I never re-holster my gun with the holster inside my waistband. I always remove it, holster my gun, and then tuck the holster back in. Just another life lesson I will never forget!

@nickbusse2718 2 ай бұрын

Every man’s greatest fear whilst carrying appendix

@OkOk-wl7le 2 ай бұрын

“If you cant save it, dont save me”😂😭

@mhuntprofessional 3 күн бұрын

You have to be able to DRAW fast. Take your time reholstering. Adrenaline is a hell of a ride. Protect the bits and take the time to be safe unless you're trying to swap from gun to cuffs or something. But for ME, if someone asks how much caution would I use to avoid shooting my d*ck off? The answer is: "all of it"

@fbodkin1 Жыл бұрын

Most people I know in the CCW world know of Massad and consider him the gold standard. Hearing the humility in the story with Spencer only deepened my respect for this man.

@stroys7061 Жыл бұрын

It was a great story to help make his point. He didn’t win the competition but there is no person I know of I’d rather have defending me or my loved ones in a gun fight. He is the gold standard!

@billpohlman803 Жыл бұрын

@DwnRange 2 жыл бұрын

For vast majority of my 68 years in life and well over 40 of them I have ridden a Leg-breaker (a phrase my dad was fond of calling the motorcycles he raced and built when I was young) 24/7/265 in Houston, Texas. As a NRA certified instructor and one of the early Texas CHL instructors I also tried many different modes of concealed carry and the only 2 viable options were shoulder holster and IWB cross-draw so for most of my life, save for long winter road-trips, IWB cross-draw became my preferred method of concealed carry. It allowed daily work concealment, and placed my Detonics Combat Master handgun infront of my body where the muzzle never crossed my left leg while sitting astride my scoot and I never needed to worry about Houston potholes bouncing my Combat Masters down the road behind me, as was possible with the 3:30 IWB option. I am now retired and while I have also retired the Combat Masters in favor of either the Glock 26 or 19, both lighter with more capacity, I have never retired the IWB cross-draw method, for as Massad notes, that muscle memory thing is hard to retrain and my first priority was to never to carry a handgun pointing at any part of my body, especially my junk, 'cus although I don't use it quite as often I do still find great joy in using it when I can, YMMV. Great video, IMHO.

@jeffcj 7 ай бұрын

Interesting that he doesn't mention those two alternative carry positions, I suppose because they are less popular.

@lanedexter6303 7 ай бұрын

Ayoob does have a shoulder holster video.@@jeffcj

@KTMitchell1953 2 жыл бұрын

Very educational video. I love the fact that Massad explains the advantages and disadvantages of each position. I definitely have the utmost respect for this man.

@anthonyboatright6960 2 жыл бұрын

@Mitch If you Get a chance to take one of his Classes they're great.

@robertoperez32 2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyboatright6960 update oon

@ankhscrackpipeemeritus2092 2 жыл бұрын

he needs to take that rug off of his head, that's for sure!👨‍🦲

@gustavogalar2085 2 жыл бұрын

You need to get brains which is more difficult to achieve!

@stephenedwards5038 2 жыл бұрын

Me too..

@tomglpn 2 жыл бұрын

There's not a lot of KZfaqrs that I will listen to on firearms advice. This fellow is one of about 5.

@johnqpublic2718 2 жыл бұрын

We're all waiting with baited breath for you to grace us with your complete list.

@Followme556 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnqpublic2718 pro tip: stop being a jackass.

@Followme556 2 жыл бұрын

Probably because Mas (and ill bet the other guys on your list) are not really youtubers. They're old school top notch pros who happen to make youtube videos now. That's my guess. ;)

@rigel2112 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnqpublic2718 Mas, Paul Harrell, and Lenny Magill is my complete list.

@Valorius 2 жыл бұрын

@@rigel2112 Don't forget Mas's old buddy Ken Hackathorn. (He also makes vids for Wilson combat).

@tomfrommichigan 2 жыл бұрын

This man the most logical instructor I have seen. He has very well thought out opinions and articulates them perfectly. He is definitely very real world.

@waynehendrix4806 2 жыл бұрын

Massad, I was just thinking as the video started, it's great to be able to hear you talk directly and often. As a child of the 70's to 80's, I would occasionally get an article which you had written, or a few interviews. Your intentional focus on facts and not just opinions had an absolute influence on my thinking. As for me, daily carry, I'm a 1-2:00 snub .357 revolver carrier, IWB, in a no longer sold, skeletonized carrier. Works well, and even can jog in "pants" with it. Here in N East, the sweatshirt and a light winter coat makes it completely not visible to the world. Draw might suffer a little, but availability will not. I like my pistols, but the revolver melts into my wardrobe. Don't mess with old men....

@rogerbello4649 2 жыл бұрын

Wayne Hendrix, I am curious as to what is a "skeletonized carrier", I am very new to firearms. I couldn't find an image of one when I googled it. Thank you in advanced.

@waynehendrix4806 2 жыл бұрын

@@rogerbello4649 Roger, thankfully I got an alert to this message, or I might have never seen the question. By skeletonized, I mean to say molded plastic, with no outer sheath, plastic, leather, or otherwise. It has a lower rod that goes into the barrel, and a frame that goes up along the outside of the firearm, along the trigger guard etc, and captures the frame. There is also a spring steel belt clip on the outside. Original name was "caretaker quick draw", but I only found one, and I think there was no production after 1999. Great part is that is weighs ounces, and supports well for appendix carry. You'll just need a callous on your appendix to carry it. :)

@cindyrobertson3798 Жыл бұрын

Old women either! One on my belt extra in my bag or jacket. Swimming at the lake it's in the trunk of the car. I'm in a constitutional carry state .😊

@michaelslisher4652 2 жыл бұрын

I'm 68 and have been carrying either open or concealed since I was 20. I carry either OWB or IWB, and regardless, my preference has always been at the 4:00 position, give or take :30. I slightly prefer OWB, but not by much. Both a good holster (Milt Sparks, for example) and a good belt (Kore is my latest goto) make a world of difference and like Mas says, are essential.

@Valorius 2 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@zionkid28 2 жыл бұрын

Love my KORE belt

@OMG_No_Way 2 жыл бұрын

Kore belt wearer here too. Great belts.

@deepb249 2 жыл бұрын

What kore belt models you have?

@nostradamus7648 Жыл бұрын

What's your opinion of Vedder holsters? Or the Urban Carry Lockleather hybrid.

@roberttalbot1658 2 жыл бұрын

Mas is so great at clarifying things. It's easy to follow his clear, logical speaking. I wish that he might do a video on crossdraw holster carry.

@heroofharo 2 жыл бұрын

Gonna be honest, anyone who's done it will tell you aside from concealabilty and comfort, it's probably one of the worst ways to carry besides small of the back. It's an awkward, obvious motion to draw and I'd only recommend drawing from an already advantageous position. The main upside being it's so much more comfortable while sitting out driving because the 90 degree angle of the frame matches your hips and legs.

@ScrappyXGC 2 жыл бұрын

I'll do it with my back up, but only if it's a revolver. It's great for IWB accessible to both hands. You'll never get a Quicksdraw McGraw trophy for it though. Try a shoulder holster, very much the same trying to draw off hand, and very much the same strong hand. It's viable though. That you do it is what matters most. I'm going to c/p myself. Maybe all in one shot... I don't wear any holster IWB, OWB in any position that I cannot clear my garment with the draw hand alone. My off hand has the duty of GTFOM with knife if need be to give me TIME, distance is time, them reacting to pain is time, I'll take whatever time I can get. Back up is always either hand accessible. The Gravest Extreme clarified my thoughts on redundancy in how you fight, you have two arms and two hands, one set may go down, have to be ready to use the other. SERPA's either at 3- or 6+ for that reason. Back-up (or church carry) is most often 6 - 7 (especially when I'm using the SERPA it's at 7 and SERPA's 0300 - 0230). Thumb's always out, bird finger and heel of thumb can begin formation of grip. Start slow, and get the foundation of your muscle memory, with the ring finger pulling your grip into the base of your palm. It's like a roll in,. Yes you can fire with index, bird, and only heel of thumb from the hip with your forearm creased by the base of the slide and I don't recommend it. Still it works 1911 or Glock, pushing forward! before the next shot. No matter how you choose to carry, muscle memory is paramount on your draw. Unload your pistol, and do it. Over and over. Don't like the position for your holster, change it. Don't like your carry holster, change it. Your life may depend on this. Do it over and over, no f' ups. Hopefully it will never come to your life depending on how you carry. You can be very sure that your confidence in yourself will matter even if you never have to draw. Many things in life will hinge on how you carry yourself, have confidence in the "push comes to shove" you'll shove and they won't like it. It's stopped others in my life without laying a hand on what I was about to shove with. They saw they were about to stop by my demeanor, so they did before it was made so. Constant carry means you must be ready to constantly deploy then employ. We have to practice both. Keep calm and carry on. Oh, hit if need be. Still all this is just me, I'm only alive by grace of God even if constant carry for over 3 decades, it's still by Him. I almost completely f'd up a few times, so it was Him. YEEEE!!! Worked I wore a 686 for years in a shoulder holster, and could draw with either hand. Slow though, very freakin slow, either hand. 6" brrl is always slow, still both eyes open you'll hit even at chest height. Dang, just realized I forgot to say "thumbs out" always. Meh, not going back to edit it.

@stephenmartini5890 2 жыл бұрын

I've always favored the IWB cross draw at the 1-2 o'clock position as I'm a lefty with a few of my guns. I also, have two shoulder rigs for them as well. Being a lefty does have it's problems though, I'm training with my right hand, also. It would be nice for Mas to do a video on cross draw and or with a lefty in mind. I also, carry in the 9 o'clock forward can't depending upon how I'm dressed. I have to add that I'm not a cop or a street fighter, just an avg. citizen.

@shouldhavenotshouldof2031 2 жыл бұрын

Nice rant

@65coupestang Жыл бұрын

He DOES do one it's called masaad ayoob shoulder holster right here on youtube..

@stephenanderson5991 2 жыл бұрын

When Massad speaks, I LISTEN! Lots of respect for the man. He provides valuable real world experience in his commentary.

@sergeantc8163 2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree 💯

@josephgonzales4802 2 жыл бұрын

Very, very informative. I'm a Police officer and I have been carrying out side waistband, off duty for over thirty years and It works for me. I only have to buy larger shirts and jackets. I have tried other methods and always came back to the OWB carry. 👮‍♂️

@thomaspowers5486 2 жыл бұрын

Retired now, but on the job I always carried OWB off duty. Still do today. (J-frame in an ankle holster works too.)

@MojoPup 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer OWB as well (retired LEO). But where I live, wearing a jacket is rare...so I wear IWB most of the time to avoid exposure.

@danhatton2229 2 жыл бұрын

I tried iwb and prefer owb for comfort and better access in my opinion. I wear loose clothing to conceal and it works for me.

@owendigity1581 2 жыл бұрын

You are an officer and taking advice from youtube? Union a hole.

@usernamemykel Жыл бұрын

@Jonny Henke That makes you a rare Panter.

@LJ-jq8og 2 жыл бұрын

As always -- practical advice with integrity!

@oldcop18 2 жыл бұрын

Greetings Mas, great presentation. You may not remember but you interviewed me for a 2016 article, “Out of Ammo” in American Handgunner. I was a detective in ‘74 when I was forced to engage armed robbery suspects w/my issued Colt Detective Special, carried under a suit jacket @ the 4 o’clock position. Everything you say here is spot on. Stay well . . .

@Valorius 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you're still breathing.

@tchin2020 2 жыл бұрын

Joining the NYPD in 1984, it was time to chose your off duty handgun, the NYPD only authorized 38 cal revolvers, I had the option of either purchasing the SW Police Chief or the Colt Detective Special. The Chief was going for $125 (which was purchased by 90% of the rookies) and the Colt DS was going for $350. I asked the range instructor what was the difference between the SW Chief and Colt Detective Special, and he said the Chief chambered 5 rounds, while the Colt DS chambered 6 rounds, and that one bullet may save your life… so I carried the Colt DS my whole career… even when we went to 9mm, (Glock 19 (ugh) or Sig P226 ) I still carried my Colt DS. When I would go for annual qualifications, the range instructor would inspect the handguns, and when he saw my Colt DS, he was in awe, they always complimented the Colt DS, even today…I keep it clean and rarely shoot it at the range, the Colt DS is a classy original police equipment. They are rare handguns to have nowadays.

@oldcop18 2 жыл бұрын

@@tchin2020 My first off-duty gun was a Colt Cobra purchased new for $85 in 1968 & I still have it. Not carried any longer but it does go to the range a few times a year.

@jimtheedcguy4313 2 жыл бұрын

Did you feel out gunned with only having a 38 special at the time, similar to the Miami Dade shooting? Thank you for your service! I know its a thankless job!

@johndelorenzo602 Жыл бұрын

@@tchin2020 I have my grandfathers Detective Special, it’s probably the only gun I own that would never ever ever sell

@woodslife Жыл бұрын

These videos are top shelf. Thank you!

@doc_sav 2 жыл бұрын

What a freakin' legend. I have read several of his books. Always learn something valuable.

@sisleymichael 2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned threat profile, or threat assessment. I pocket carry in summer and OWB hip carry in winter. In S. Texas, it is hot 9 months. I suspect folks all across the South go through the same heat. You cannot wear a jacket much. I am mostly in work pants or shorts and t-shirts. It limits gun size as well. Thank God for the micro pistols. With my work, appendix carry just cannot work, period. Too much bending, crawling, general movement. IWB? The same thing. I tried it. Just miserable. Each person must find what best works for their body type, their work, their daily wardrobe, climate, AND what is the threat where you are? I'm lucky in that I only worry about how I carry when I come to town. (I live on a ranch). That said, the gun size goes down. I carry a G19 at the ranch in a thumb break OWB holster and two mag pouches, and a work knife on the belt. With all the illegal entrants constantly popping up everywhere down here, I am armed at all times. My ranch truck has an AR and a 590A1 12ga. I also roll with body armor, radio comms, first aid bag, 2 gallons of extra water in the truck as well. It is getting very weird out here.

@lovepickingnc9313 2 жыл бұрын

Stay safe, it sounds like you are well prepared. I'm sorry you have to deal with all that.

@dannygannon6804 Жыл бұрын

Thank Biden and his party

@danno1800 Жыл бұрын

You are the most remarkable man to explain things so difficult and making them so understandable! I have subscribed to hear more and more and more of what you have to tell us. Thank you - much appreciated…

@joeserio9589 Жыл бұрын

This is the best instructions video I have ever seen thank you.

@garycampbell3404 7 ай бұрын

You do such great videos. Calm authority with lots of info and just enough humor but no clowning around. I look forward to watching a bunch more.

@Nothing-gw2fb Жыл бұрын

I like the way he explains things like a poet. Rare nowadays

@hesher7582 2 жыл бұрын

wicked sense of humor. glad to see he’s still kicking ass. been reading his articles for 20 years.

@Bill-vo1wn Жыл бұрын

I really enjoy the information from your videos. THANKS.

@erichirst2766 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love the information you’ve put out on this channel. I personally have two methods of carry due to where I live. Summer, I tend to carry appendix with a 92FS. It conceals better and it comfortable for me. Winter I’m either at OWN or IWB, depending on what I’m doing. Winter is a bit difficult for appendix carry because of fighting coats, snow pants and thick gloves. Wearing that type of clothing makes it difficult for me at least. I found it much easier to draw from the 3-330 position with winter gear.

@wraithsong24-7 2 жыл бұрын

Great presentation! I was a private investigator for 20 years in Colorado. I always had a ccw and still carry since I retired in 2015. I was pulled over one morning in the mountains, around 4:00am. I was headed to a surveillance case and was running late, ended up speeding 30 over the posted limit. A state trooper pulled me over. I worked with law enforcement agencies during my carrier and was well versed on patrol procedures. I turned off my engine, rolled “all” my tinted windows down, had both hands on the steering wheel, with all my docs, license and ccw in my left hand. He approached, asked me if I knew why he pulled me over. I said, “When I saw your lights I looked at my speedometer, I saw I was doing 86.” He was already looking at my licenses and then my ccw. He stopped, looked up, and I remember, he looked surprised, he said, “I appreciate your honesty. I had you at 85.” He asked if I had my weapon on me I told him I did, on my right hip (xd 45). He asked me what I did for a living I told him. He handed me back my ccw and asked if there was anything bad on my driving record. I said no sir. He told me to “sit tight”. Then, after 20 of the longest minutes, I was sure he was waiting for backup. he came back. Handed me all my docs and license. I was very relieved and grateful. He said, “you know, if I wrote this up, you were going to jail, $1000 fine and we’re impounding your vehicle?” I sad yes, I had been worried that’s what was going to happen. He said, “If not for your honesty, I don’t care what you do for a living, you were going to jail. I can’t remember the last time someone was this honest with me on a traffic stop.” I thanked him again, with a lot of sincerity, told him to be safe. I drove the speed limit the rest of the way. By the way, being late didn’t matter, that case was a big success that day.

@andrewtanczyk4009 Жыл бұрын

Usually it doesn’t pay to be that honest yet when you get caught why not. Especially after watching do not talk to the police.

@andrewtanczyk4009 Жыл бұрын

James Duane’s book you have the right to remain innocent

@DW133_ Жыл бұрын

No offense but man that was boring

@wraithsong24-7 Жыл бұрын

@@DW133_ I’m happy it was boring. The best interaction with cops when they pull you over is “boring” 😊 Thanks for the reply

@mediocreman2 Жыл бұрын

Says a lot about Colorado. I went 40 over and the cop reduced it down. Glad I don't live in that cesspool that Colorado has become.

@MyAramil 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty nice and informative video. Something I would mention for the appendix carry position is that with a decent "sweat shield" it can help push some of the larger users "tactical shelf" so slipping your thumb behind the grip is easier.

@kitsune303 Жыл бұрын

Well done as always.

@davidmclaughlin2796 3 ай бұрын

One of your best, Ayoob, thank you

@davidwacton 2 жыл бұрын

I too am in a wheelchair because of spinal deterioration and nerve damage running across my lower back. I have worked on a rig that connects my chair and my holsters to the front of the chair. A towel hides the rig and the weapons. It works pretty good.

@chriscosby2459 2 жыл бұрын

Every time I listen to Massad, I learn something. Sometimes several things.

@mef9327 2 жыл бұрын

It's really awesome to find a channel where Massad Ayoob is a regular. I'm surprised it took me this long to find the channel. Take my sub.

@lovepickingnc9313 2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Ayoob thank you for sharing your knowledge. Also for sharing the advantages and disadvantages of different carrying positions. I carry the same as when I first started, and I don't risk any accident of hitting a major artery.

@antonioaiello6588 8 ай бұрын

One of the best videos I’ve ever seen dealing with use of force was done by massad in the 80’s. I was barely born and he was dishing out knowledge most of my instructors at the sheriffs office don’t know. I am so thankful for his videos and they make me a safer more knowledgeable deputy so thank you.

@PPSChadwick 2 жыл бұрын

Now that Wilson makes and sells an appendix holster I guess we can look forward to an appendix division in IDPA soon. 😉

@mwileyy112492 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t that be nice. USPSA has allow AIWB for a while. I would love to see IDPA keep up with how people are actually carrying.

@PPSChadwick 2 жыл бұрын

@@mwileyy112492 when Wilson Combat started making and selling PCC rifles it was introduced as a division in IDPA. Now that Wilson makes and sells an appendix holster I would imagine under the 2022 rule book for IDPA we will see an appendix carry option. Do you think Joyce will apologize for the scathing message she sent last year to the match director that allowed appendix carry at his match? I doubt it…

@throatpunch4789 2 жыл бұрын

The old guys at Wilson combat HATE that new fangled appendix carry but are forced to follow the market...

@FLYYDAL Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation. Learned a lot. Thanks

@andrewipp426 Жыл бұрын

Very informative and articulate in the explanations of each type of carry positions, watching your reflexive movements as your demonstrating body positions and weapon draw is extremely helpful. Thank you for sharing this and learning what works for each individuals comfort level.

@stewartsrcpo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Mas. Been following you for years. I carry a 1911 commander on my right hip w 2 wilson spares on my left rear hip using only Galco Conceable holster. That is my habituation for over 20 yrs and used to carry a full size 1911 that way. I cannot use an appendix carry due to extreme discomfort from a hernia surgery. I experimented w a Galco Miami Classic shoulder rig which I use, exclusively for hunting, as it was cumbersome and harder to conceal. I wear a Galco field belt that I have worn everday for 8 yrs and still going strong.

@johncook9983 Жыл бұрын

Mr Ayoob, I have been following and digesting your knowledge since at least the 80’s when I was a kid reading gun rags. You are a treasure and appreciated more than I can express. Peace.

@fyrfyter81 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mas. I've been a fan since at least 1980 when I was in High School and it didn't make you weird to read a gun magazine in study hall. To say I've learned a lot from you would be an understatement!

@MrNiceGuy2323 Жыл бұрын

Mr Ayoob, it is an honor to be taught by you. Thank you, sir.

@jaydee2012 Жыл бұрын

Stretchy pant jeans are revolutionary for IWB.

@70selvisfan 2 жыл бұрын

I've always stuck to OWB or pocket carry myself. I've got one of those "spare tires" Mas alludes to in the video. However, I'm thinking of giving IWB another go using some of his tips here. I normally carry a Glock 19, but also have a Gov't -sized 1911 that just doesn't go well with OWB concealed carry for me the way the Glock does. Thanks for all of the information!

@danielbarbee6606 2 жыл бұрын

Massad I hope you have been paid well through the years. You deserve that. I am sure you are wealthy in many ways beyond money. Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge. I have followed you for years and have learned a lot. Almost for free considering the quality of content. I have tried to be a good example but often tell people to watch your videos because of your simplicity in direction.

@waynecassels3607 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent information and lesson. Thank you.

@salesfuel4u 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video and overview. I can totally relate to the habituation element. As a former LEO, I’m definitely habituated to OWB carry even off-duty and now as a private citizen. The only other thing I’d add is the benefit of well made paddle holsters that allow easier removal of the holster rather than having to unthread from the belt.

@abstractapproach634 Жыл бұрын

You certainly naturally blade away from people as well, important for y'all's gangster styles (behind 3 or 9) My gun has never gone off when I didn't want it to, I can draw at least 3 times faster this way, I have better concealment and it is already instinctual to protect that area of your body

@h.g.higgins4521 2 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate you guys.I'm old and need a lot of Training. Arthritis is a part of my life and I hope and pray I never have to shoot someone ever again.Just trying to be safe.Your right about extra fat around your body. Finding a good hoister is almost next to impossible with a gun they Don't make anymore.I own a Ruger P 90 no safeties on gun.But numerous hoister companies don't seem to carry a mold for it and can't make me a hoister. I only have owb boister made by Acua Mold which is great as it holds its shape so its easy to hoister minus the thump stap which is good to. The other hoister is a cheap leather one with no restraining device but have to loosen the belt to put gun back in.What about shoulder hoisters for me.Bra hoisters for my wife or purse hoisters which I think are unsafe if the criminal grabs your purse.What about thigh hoisters for women wearing dresses? As you have said and Mr Wilson Apedex carry is faster.I think I would have to go to a less than. 4 1/2 " barrel to make apedex carry work for me in tho owb would be really fast. I trust you guys judgment and a few others I occasionally listen to.My wife is into fashion and carry in her purse.Trying to give her greater options to carry and ability to protect when I'm gone.Got USCCA membership and insurance.Printing is a concern with me also as I always carry and a few times have to put my gun and extra magizines in the car because not allowed to carry into some place.Every bit of advice us appreciated so in case I every have to shoot someone again.I'm a former Marine of the Vietnam and spent 21 months there.

@rich4137 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service. I appreciate you sharing in a concise manner.

@fight-sex-trafficking 2 жыл бұрын

I like these videos. Massed articulates the points extremely well.

@tracycrispino3446 2 жыл бұрын

Mas, as always…thank you for your insights and professionalism. I continue to learn from you with each episode. God Bless you for taking the time to educate us!

@gowilsoncombat 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated

@Valorius 2 жыл бұрын

@@gowilsoncombat Mas and Hackathorn are national treasures to the shooting community. Thanks for giving them a platform. Now if we could just get Gun Jesus on here!

@roygaisser9230 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Mr. Mas for the (always) informative vid. I typically carry a small 9 or .45 at about 4:30. I really like what Mas said, as I have said it to anyone will listen for years..."Concealed means concealed!" Don't want to wander too far from the topic though. I can NOT make myself carry APPENDIX IWB, it just ain'ta gonna happen. I know, I know bunches of y'all carry that way (safely, so far) every day. But I have tried every totable size handgun I own, in multiple IWB holsters, from El Cheapo to Primo and just can not get over the fact that my loaded powerhouse, defensive miracle of tech is pointed squarely at my junk and/or femoral artery! Jeff Cooper has got to be spinning fast right now, as you all know AIWB violates #2 of Col. Cooper's codified commandments. I mean, sure my boy is not really the most important thing in the world now (as he was 45 years ago). But he doesn't deserve THAT, he doesn't deserve to be shot just because we don't go on adventurous escapades bringing joy and satisfaction everywhere any longer! No. I just will not do it to him. So, I'll keep experimenting with wild new carry positions, sometimes varying from my usual 4:30 to 4:15 or 4:45 even, but no thanks at all for AIWB.

@jameswatkins5191 Жыл бұрын

A truly knowledgeable teacher/comedian.Thanks!

@northjerseykevin409 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. You’re so well spoken. Thank you

@gowilsoncombat 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@Brndndutton Жыл бұрын

Came for the tactics... Stayed for the dry sense of humor. Awesomeness!!! 🙂

@Popogolfer 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mr Ayoob for your continued instruction. I have followed you since the days of the “Lethal Force Institute”. I too am a retired LEO and I agree with the habitual carry on the strong side 3:00 from duty wear. I transitioned to AIWB years ago off duty and haven’t gone back. I typically carry a CZ P-01 but sometimes in warmer months I will carry a Kahr PM 45 for better concealment. I feel much more comfortable with the CZ since it has an external hammer but the long double action only pull of the Kahr is also reassuring. I really cannot understand all these GLOCK junkies that carry AIWB. Glocks do exactly what they are designed to which is fire when trigger is pulled. I have seen many ND on You Tube video’s and most, if not all of the discharges happen with someone carrying a Glock AIWB. You can’t fix stupid, or educate it. Thank you

@CurtisBrandt 8 ай бұрын

Agree with you. I like appendix position but would never carry a striker fired pistol there. P-01 it is!

@kennethreynolds8 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic vid bravo sir. I'm exploring the AIWB and I'm leaning towards that carry position for the very reasons you mentioned.

@precisionmarksman5761 2 жыл бұрын

Great video with great information and insight. Gives plenty of different perspectives and ideas. Thanks Mas

@gowilsoncombat 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@PudgyFish47 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Another example of the more I think I know, the less I know. Thank you for the great insight on conceal carry.

@boomanh63 2 жыл бұрын

I have more decades than I care to admit to carrying OWB. It has always worked for me and see no need to change at this point. The only other method I have used has been a crossdraw holster while seated driving for hours at a time. Same as the methods Mas talks about above, a quality crossdraw holster matched to a sturdy gunbelt makes this method work for people that need to have a pistol on their person while seated.

@larryray3178 Жыл бұрын

I too carry crossdraw OWB only. Mine is a Smith & Wesson M & P Shield in .40 caliber. I don’t like IWB at all. Why .40 caliber? I wanted something with some knock down power. .45 is better but Smith & Wesson didn’t offer that caliber in an M &P Shield. There’s nothing better than a .45, unless it’s a .357 magnum. I have a belt & holster with a six shooter I acquired when I was considering cowboy action shooting, but I would feel somewhat inhabited to wear that instead.

@donavandean1078 6 ай бұрын

Great info, you are very detailed and accurate in your presentation. I take to heart what you say.

@snelson0990 2 жыл бұрын

i have been carrying aiwb for a few years and i can say it took some time to get used to. in the long run it did become more comfortable for me and i have carried both sub compact striker fired and full size 1911 in this position with jm custom kydex holsters. with both instances i had little to no printing versus having to buy larger clothes for 3:30-4:00 carry. thank you for the great presentation

@williamhoppe4500 2 жыл бұрын

I'm old, fat and set in my ways. I only carry my full size Beretta or G17 in a outside the waistband hip holster. Thanks for being my go to training expert for all of my adult life.

@nk-dw2hm 2 жыл бұрын

You are far more likely to die from being overweight than from an armed conflict, hope everyone is willing to invest a few minutes into themselves

@williamhoppe4500 2 жыл бұрын

@@nk-dw2hm There's always one of those dicks, aren't there? Why don't you start a channel for fitness tips for 72 year old disabled American Veterans like me? What motivates people like you? I'm ashamed of people that talk, oh wait, pontificate. like you.

@Valorius 2 жыл бұрын

@@williamhoppe4500 While insensitive, he did make a valid observation (which he probably wouldn't have made had he known you were in your 70s, unless he is a total jackass). Thanks for your service from a fellow veteran.

@Brett235 2 жыл бұрын

@@williamhoppe4500 don't take it so personal my friend. I'm overweight myself and I'm only 44. I have a few health issues that prohibit me from working out so I just watch what I eat. I am learning how to carry inside the waist band at 4:00 because I already look wide, outside the waistband would make me look like a mack truck.

@donf3877 2 жыл бұрын

@@williamhoppe4500 I wonder if he will have any "advise" for me on my post. Being a disabled Vet confined to a power scooter, I'm sure he thinks I am just "lazy" and should get out of it and exercise..................

@mikebabb2155 2 жыл бұрын

I have been carrying for years and after trial and error I figured out that the best carry position for my tiny butt is about the 2 o'clock using an iwb hybrid holster. At one point I tried appendix and it was awful. The holster dug into my legs, the way the holster set no matter how I adjusted it the waist band of my pants and my belt got in the way when drawing the pistol and even with a claw to push the grip in towards my body the grip was still sticking out extremely far. The grip was honestly sticking out like two inches or more so there was no concealing it. However at the 2 o'clock the grip kind of follows along with my body shape even though it does print because of how skinny I am. But most people do not notice. It also has the added benefit of being very comfortable and even carrying a full size 1911 I almost forget that I have it on my hip. I have to give credit where credit is due and say that part of that is thanks to my rigger's belt. A good belt makes a big difference!

@nicholaswheeler5119 5 ай бұрын

Thank you sir for this video! Straight forward and helped me figure what I need to carry.

@JayB-bq7hh Жыл бұрын

Great video Massad !!!! As always............👍

@chuckoaks6756 2 жыл бұрын

I started appendix about 2 years ago. I never thought I would like it but its great for me. I carry a cz compact pcr.

@jasonpadula4916 2 жыл бұрын

I carry a shield 2.0, and xds mod 2, 4" barrel appendix. I use the higher capacity magazine for each. It is the most effective concealment position for me, and I do not fear it.

@marshalllanier360 Жыл бұрын

Sir, I have read your columns and articles in various gun publications for years. I have the utmost respect for your insights and opinions. Very informative video listing the pros and cons of each. What is your opinion of SOB carry (small of the back)

@markr4563 10 ай бұрын

Good demonstrations. Lots of information.

@davidhansbury6247 2 жыл бұрын

Well THAT certainly was an education, especially on the appendix, several issues, both pro and con i really hadn't considered.. THAT is why these videos are so important, once again, well done.!!

@garywatson Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mas, enjoyed your MAG20 class some years back. I might consider AIWB for one reason - nobody is likely to bump into you in the front and get startled by a weapon being there, as might happen with positions between 3 and 6 o'clock. A 1911 feels different than an iPhone.

@christianfritz6333 2 жыл бұрын

I find that carrying iwb at about 2:30 with a forward cant works best for me, I find it prevents any irritation on the hip and also prevents printing from behind. I use the "y" but sweep from behind, I find it clears whatever garment I'm wearing and places my hand in the proper position to draw. There are some great points raised in this video, manditory info for those who carry.

@mariolofaro8330 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I've never carried appendix, but owb and iwb and military hip/thigh rigs. Great info!

@bfenwick87 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, Massad, for another thorough and informative video. The Wilson Combat channel is an invaluable resource for responsible armed individuals, of varying levels of skill and experience. Thanks again!

@irishdefense77 2 жыл бұрын

I carry at 4-4:30 and have for 25 years-for the same reasons as Mas.I don’t want to learn a new way to do something I’m reflexive at,and I am still a Trooper so for me,it works.I have always carried in Mitch Rosen Gunleather because of your recommendation,and with his belt and mag pouch.It has been perfect,and I have converted many young Troopers to buying his gear,because it’s the best.My ARG,named after you-is and always will be my go to.

@irishdefense77 Жыл бұрын

@TJ Then you are not confident with the weapon system which tells me you need training.Once you are trained,you’ll have full confidence in the fact that a Glock WILL NOT FIRE unless you pull the trigger.This is a training issue.Get some good quality training and trigger time and you find that the Glock is absolutely the safest weapon you can carry-there are three internal safeties,and I have seen these weapons abused and dropped and covered in sand and seawater and they always function.I was in a elite unit in the military and when we switched to Glock from highly customized Browning Hi-Powers,I swore I’d never carry a Glock.I learned that they were just far superior to anything else we had access to.After leaving the military and getting on with SP,I already brought that unbelievable amount of training and combat experience with me,so training is the key.Good luck.

@SouthOfSanity79 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is nothing short of phenomenal. And I am proud to say that he hails from my home state of New Hampshire. Maybe he wasn't born here but he put a lot of time in here in the Live Free Or Die state. God bless this man.

@tommy2buttz668 Жыл бұрын

@MeandMyStaffy yeah the license plate is cringe before cringe was a thing

@DanL57 Ай бұрын

His grandparents immigrated to the US from Syria.

@surfingonmars8979 8 ай бұрын

Another great video. No bs, no politics, no nonsense - what a wonderful recess

@andrewvillavicencio8496 Жыл бұрын

Excellent information, thank you Sir!

@marinecombatvet2669 2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Ayoob made me rethink my entire AIWB premise. Thank you Sir. After much testing and others visual observing the position of my concealment, That 3:30 beats my AIW by far. Maybe not as fast, but especially with summer coming up, I've learned something new for sure. My dry speed is not terribly different, but concealability is for certain. I am constantly learning from Mr. Ayoob, even as a former combat Marine. Thank you!

@project86xero 2 жыл бұрын

You're right about those wider clips and loops for comfort. I make holsters for a living and the number of people who don't listen to me on that is surprising. Most of my customers want a single clip holster. Which is very versatile and can be comfortable with a lighter gun as well as the right belt. But the wider double loop/clip holsters are far more comfortable and stable in my experience.

@sqlb3rn 2 жыл бұрын

On skinny dudes with small waists, the holster with 2 loops are often too much leather and kydex to stuff in the waist band. End up having pointy corners in the waist line around the hip. I can use a sticky holster no clips with a Glock 43 in the waist band and it will stay there all day.

@jason_m_schmidt622 Жыл бұрын

Wider clips and excellent construction is what makes Hidden Hybrid Holster the most comfortable for me.

@humester 2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to thank you for your expert opinions.

@dwayneflorence4482 Жыл бұрын

Massad is the best! Easy to understand, illustrative, uses multiple examples and his sense of humor is unique and keeps my attention.

@DanielERodriguezMusic 2 жыл бұрын

I like AIWB a lot, and only because I have a kydex holster made specifically for my CCW that covers the trigger guard completely. And it’s double action. No printing.

@BryanLyde Жыл бұрын

havent heard much discussion about bio-breaks and vehicles. a Con for AIWB is it's quite difficult to take a leak compared to other methods. AIWB is a plus when riding in vehicles as the seat belt does not interfere and the shirt can be tucked so the firearm is accessible from the seated position even faster.

@markpotochny56 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for your wisdom and guidance Mas, much appreciated,youre my go to instruct when i have questions and you and the rest at wilson always have well thought out and practical answers coming from years of experience

@matthewmoeller1225 9 ай бұрын

Very good advice! Alot to absorb in one's mind

@adamthompson4979 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. I tried AIWB. It is faster. What I found is my pelvis tilts anterior, or forward, too much and the pistol prints too much. I am working on my posture. I carry about 330 to 4 strong side and with A LOT of practice can get my draw to anatomical significant hit to about 1.8 seconds.

@lawrencehudson9939 2 жыл бұрын

Great presentation, well explained. I would love to see his suggestions for us wheel chair bound vets. There does not seem to be anything out there except shoulder holsters.

@gowilsoncombat 2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

@tonylittle8634 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried a chest rig?

@JacksonRafferty74 2 жыл бұрын

Very good information! Another great video.

@gowilsoncombat 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

@Jason-um3tz 8 ай бұрын

Always great vids from this guy

@gunnerbags2096 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video! I may try IWB 5 o’clock again with my fullsize. My daily carry is AIWB as I find it is the most comfortable and workable option for me. One piece of advice which wasn’t mentioned in the video is when holstering a loaded gun in AIWB, remove the holster from your body and then insert the gun into the holster. Then just tuck in the holster and you are safer in this process. The concern is your garments falling into the holster and catching the trigger when inserting the gun. I would not want to holster a loaded semi with no safety and a round in the chamber without using this method. A bit more cumbersome in practice at the range but will prevent that nightmare accidental discharge scenario you mention. Great video!

@edstrohmeier7494 2 жыл бұрын

Lenny from the Glock Store says always hold your thumb on the back of the slid when holstering to avoid what you speak of.

@understandingtruth10 2 жыл бұрын

Appendix carry it was my first and probably will be what I always use for concealed carry. Normally I carry a Sigsauer 232, or a Russian Makarov. On days I feel the threat is higher, A full size Glock 17. Thank you for the good knowledgeable advice. A good thing to note is that some guns are much safer than others for appendix carry.

@ignatiusduggan9831 2 жыл бұрын

I have the sig 232, where did you get a good holster for it?

@understandingtruth10 2 жыл бұрын

It’s always better to buy quality leather something kind of slim if you’re going inside the waistband with a metal clip I would look around on eBay typically holsters that fit the Walther PP fit the 232 good, same with bursa thunder.

@bhardwaajmohabir9147 Жыл бұрын

Very nice thank you for showing it on you tube have a nice day 🙂

@jordanblahnik1035 2 жыл бұрын

This guy cracks me up ! Very witty !!

@ronwillis9208 Жыл бұрын

I'm experimenting with appendix carry after a lifetime of OWB / law enforcement carry. In retirement I'm limiting the pistols I carry that manner to small frame; Ruger LCP2 .380, Springfield XDs 9mm single stack 3" and sometimes as a backup with a Bond Arms 9mm derringer. I'm trying to deal with where the muzzle is pointed, but with my body type I have excellent concealment and comfort. The test goes on.

@jbean9021 6 ай бұрын

I carry a glock 43x appendix and I’m definitely not skinny and I’ve found it to work pretty well. And it’s a 10 round mag with a very thin profile.