Wow Gran Turismo Sports Definitive Edition looks so good.

Sometimes gt7 looks like gt6 😂

FOV is to big in GT7

They will get a lot more detail and texture when we play current gen-only-games.

still pretty disappointing for current gen

It's amazing. If you put type 2 wobble in cockpit view it's like I can feel the elevation change. Love it.

Dont forget you comparing a PS4 vs PS5 game. it's 5.5x more graphical power, and i don't see 5.5x better graphics

@@fabrb26 it's not that simple

its the same mate lol...

@@fabrb26 that is because the graphics go to the performance of the GPU and CPU in terms of delivering better fps.

Well that's because visuals are reaching that saturation point that they won't get any better looking, all you can do is enhance the fine details and fill out the world with more elements. I don't think gamers use their internets as much as their mouths. Find the most realistic looking driving game on PC, and you'll notice that the visuals of that and GT Sport are pretty close on a car by car basis. Only so many polygons can go into making the car look real enough to the point you can't tell if it's a photo of a real one or a complete generated one. So only the fine details are left to get up to speed, like self shadowing, reflections, self reflections, light refraction through glass, shadows. TL;DR, graphics in GT Sport were already near the limit, only thing was actual resolution and color reproduction left. So the wasn't going to bea large jump in visuals, we're closing in on that diminishing returns.

The wet road and gravel looks better in sport

I mean it's not like they built Gran Turismo 7 from the ground up for PS5, so of course GT Sport holds up

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they just should have built in gt sport. gt7 is good but spot is better

Yep, but I set them to weakest as the brake is actively fighting my finger and I can't press it just the right amount, it either doesn't budge or gives up after applying more force and goes in 100% The haptics are great though, they help you feel what the car is doing and on dirt tracks it's just too much fun

But playing with a controller isnt that fun

@@turbos7780 gl convincing me to buy a new steering wheel because somehow my G25 is now outdated.

Get a wheel man!

yes I also use triggers at low @@szczur0192

Fax bro it still hasn't been topped

Bro got flabbergasted lmao 🤣🤭😃🤤🔥

@CYB3R2K30 Yeah people compare an overdramatic Arcade game effects with a simcade game which made to be somewhat realistic.

@@leepicgaymer5464 How about we stop making up words. Arcade has nothing to do with stimulation, they are all simulations, the difference is their accuracy. Everyone has gotten used to using words incorrectly because it's easy but all you're doing is perpetuating ignorance. All driving games are simulations of driving, only their accuracy targets are what separates them. DriveClub target was to be simulation but with less emphasis on hardcore physics, hence the over the top rain driving and cars somehow not being affected much by the amount of water on the courses, looks cool but unrealistic as hell. Look up the term simulation and you'll see why I even wrote that at the beginning. Even Mario Kart is a simulation of karts but leaves the realism at the karts and goes full mental everywhere else but still stimulating grip and slip, which is weird isn't it.

DRIVECLUB has better precipitation THAN REAL LIFE.

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I disagree, it sounds like the least realistic sound of all the comparisons. It sounds like the windows are down and the camera is outside the car. The sound of the tires running on wet (non-puddle) road sounds way too deep and "spray-y" and flat. The sound in general of going through puddles sounds almost non-existent too where you would expect to hydroplane. Normally you hear a rush of water run through the wheel well as it slows the car down. The sound of the water hitting the windshield is also way too agreesive and sounds again like the window is open or that the cabin is made of cardboard and that the vehicle lacks build quality. My 2009 A4 has better sound dampening than that Ferrari and I strongly doubt that is true. Adding to the window down comment, it indeed does sound like the window is down. It's raining hard, that should sound The windshield wipers also have a large thud as they complete a cycle that makes them sound like they are skipping over the surface and need to be replaced. Granted its hard to replicate something like this as they ususually have 0 sound to them unless they are going pretty hard in real life, the sound could have been a bit quieter with the thud a little more shall and less bass-y. The Ferrari may not be the best benchmark for this final note, but heavy precipitation actually dampens sound travel very hard. The engine should not sound perfectly clear in all different weather environments. It should be quieter by a margin in the rain.

@@soop8765 Yes, sound design ain't good yet.

Gt sport was basically the base for gt7.

GT Sports lighting is lit in real time, it does not used baked shadows. Also baked lighting would arguably be harder to get right becuz you would need to recalculate lighting changes every time you changed something

@@gluGPU it uses baked indirect lighting. It's not fully real time afaik

@@gluGPU gt sport doesn't offer realtime time transition only certain times that could be chosen from the menu

@@gluGPU glocal illumination is baked, cant change time of day. Dynamic shadows are live

really hit the nail with it 👍

Yeah, that splash effect looks like it was added last minute and whoever did it forgot to tie it to the point of inference instead of the moving object(car) is fugly to me. Hopeful they address that and while they're at it, do something about those stagnant tree branches and leaves that don't move. OMG that is the most aggravating thing to not see on a track full of trees like Deep Forest and Nurburgring, where the moment PD? High time dynamic movement has reached the trees, it seemingly stops at grass . I need them branches and leaves to be animated by the wind to add much needed life to courses and the city courses area missing ambient traffic noise and the occasional pigeon flock. Do they not have birds in Tokyo?

agreed

I am yet to play the new GT, and I noticed that! I am sorta disappointed even from the snipets I did see. That is so weird they would make it that way when you have ray tracing available

Yeah the splash effects look horrible. Weird he says it is an improvement.

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Frl I was flying in my R32 skyline and I could just hear the wind gusts

and the rain noise too

@@MrFabtahiti I was about to say that 😂,I was like: what?you can hear the rain now? Holy cow! It's amazing.

Rain effects never looked good in gran turismo At least its an improvement in GT7

So a lot of other games but they all look better then GT7, i not long ago finished Ghost of tsushima and that was made before the PS5

Very minor improvement if you ask me, not worth £69.

@@UnderWarranty Wtf? How is a 3rd person action adventure title remotely the same as a a driving game? Does your brain work correctly?

@@ABRAHAMGOLDENBERG I think the performance of the game not including the visuals is what makes it a lot more impressive

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@@zZiL341yRj736 And they took so many years for this GT7 to appear that makes you wonder what they were doing. I disagree that this game is like sports games since GT7 has lots of improvements and differences to GT6 and same tracks and many same cars doesn't mean much since no one wants to lose iconic tracks and cars. We just want more, BUT still that was too many years. PS4 basically passed without a full GT game. Gt sport was just a multiplayer mode of a true full GT. Oh well! See you again with GT8 at the middle or end of the life circle of PS6.

No its not. I have forza 7 and don't play at all...

@@MrGulyo What makes you think it's not?

Forza Motorsport has the same bland environmentsl textures, I don't know how you think it is any better...

@@GaryBeary play forza horizon 5 then

You do realise that's what happens in reality when you up shift an old car?!?

@@jasperwithers1626 First of all, the GT3 RS is not an old car. It has been in production starting in 2015 and it has a PDK transmission. Secondly, did you even listen to the video? Go watch videos of a GT3 RS IRL and tell me that the shifting in GT doesn't sound weird. GT has had this weird shifting audio in nearly it's entire series. If you play anything from GT4 to GT7 you'll hear how awkward the shifts are. They sound like they randomly cut out instead of having the engine react like it would IRL. The audio basically just stops playing.

Couldn’t agree more, tbh I’m still waiting for a racing game with decent sound design where the cars are concerned

Yeah no racing games to date have superb sound quality.

@@olisnowdon2172 not exactly a racing game but Dirt Rally 2.0 has decent engine sounds

Def need to grab some better tires for rain conditions! I used the default tires for the sake of demonstrating the effect of the hydroplaning in the game for this video.

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I assumed that if they couldn’t get the clearance for a handful of vehicles. Polyphony wouldn’t build an inconsistent damage model where some cars can be heavily damaged and others only small scratches and dents.

Cars having very accurate damage model would somewhat encourage crashing. Gran turismo is very insistent on good sport and clean racing, hence the less focus on accurate damage!

@baj I think it does the opposite, there are almost no consequences to crashing, sometimes you can even ride the rails/walls of a city corner instead of braking and you gain time.

@@yedagoatnocap858 having awesome damage effects would be 90% of the reason I'd play a car game 😂 without it, seems boring

Those puddle splash effects are laughable 8:45

I assume your scenario is not that much unique, many racing fans switched between GT and Forza, so depending on the background of the player, GT7 can look like a major "upgrade" or not quite a game changer or anything. It's fair enough, I don't play a "simulation" game like this for like 8 years, lol most likely I will be completely shocked if I ever try Forza or GT

ive been trying to find it as well. Only thing ive come up with so far is that it's a remix or edit of "DJ Q feat. Zibba - Night Shift". I havent found anything else.

@@psarilaos Thanks!

I don’t like the fact that interiors looks darker than gt sport

GT sport look more alive & less foggy, all the objects in gt7 are not clear, so dissapointed

@@Touge1211 that's reality my friend

@@Touge1211 There are a lot of dynamics at play in gt7. Everything in sport aside from the lighting was pre-baked. There is an actual amount of atmosphere present in 7 that affects everything. Overall it looks better to me. Especially the fact that rain and water puddles are now fully dynamic.

Kinda like nfs I noticed that too 😔

They are literally reusing all of the car models from gt 6 and sport. They are exactly the same dude

@@ilyadratutin6385 no gt6 models are not in gt7, the car models in gt is superior to any other racing game, the graphics of track is not always as good in gran turismo, but cars are very detailed

Remember it’s a cross gen game

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From what I’ve read online ray tracing is only seen in replay mode and not while actually playing

The only difference between both is Ray tracing

Always online is bad, imo. They need to stop doing this.

I fully agree with always online issue. Polyphony has gone EA.

@@kratosofwar6165 i highly doubt it, or maybe its just replay mode showing the better parts of the graphics, but shouldn't all the game look like the "better parts"? This is the consistency issue i talked about, why are replays more pleasant to look at than gameplay graphically?

I think I agree. Sport was “soft” in certain areas making it feel more natural and by extension more realistic. Motion blur in replays and softer shadows really had my eyes glued to the screen trickery that made it all come together. Though Sport had baked lighting which usually makes lighting look much nicer and dynamic and I’m only comparing the PS4 versions

It sounds so genetic and canned too. The rain and wind are in way to short of a loop, or there aren't many tracks they are using in a randomization.

They’re closed circuit races. No reason for the environment to look like shit. Horizon 5 is the perfect example of that. Insane detail in a huge open world and the cars. The best feature the game has is scapes. Everything else is just a remake for $70. The game is fun, but so far it’s like a 6 or 7

Unfortunately the tracks aren't laser scanned. But Grand Turismo has never been a simulator so that's OK.

@@iane9041 It's just advertisement. In terms of physics simulation GT isn't compareble to true racing sims such as iRacing, rFactor and AC. Play those with a good wheel and pedal setup and the differences become immense.

@@EarthIsFlat456 even playing with controllers it's a night and day comparison. Racing sims are much more detailed on how the car behaves in regards to their environment

@@EarthIsFlat456 Neither of those you mention handle like a real car either...

Not possible to have a resolution that high with 60fps and ray tracing. There is no ray tracing during gameplay for a reason. It would probably have to be 1080p 30 FPS which is too little for them to put out there

@@Boskibro bro PS5 already does 4K 30 FPS in replay mode using raytracing

@@anshukandulna1844 replay is not gameplay

Try Driveclub then and see their reactions.

The entire game apparentky was made to blind you. Gt sport is much clear imaging staring at that phine for 4-5 hours straight

@@Touge1211 wear sunglasses like. in real life sunny driving. its THAT real

@@philcollins1305 At 4K it isn't gonna happen but at 1440p it should be achievable on the base PS5.

@XJP 1440 would be fine, but the ps5 currently can't do native 1440

@@DingbatToast But it can render the game at 1440p first and then upscale to 4K and output it.

@@philcollins1305 1080p with ray tracing is most definitely achievable. You're rendering only 1/4 the amount of pixels at 4K so that leaves a lot of headroom for rendering other effects.

Of course not. The next GT will be released only after the release of PS6. And this game will also be cross-gen. GT7 will be maintained and developed throughout the life cycle of the PS5. And no one really cares about this ray tracing lshit, it's a useless marketing bullshit.

Especially since it's 70 dollars

Its not that impressive, considering its been 5 years and the performance jumps of the hardware between a ps4 pro and a ps5 are massive, they enhanced the assets they had from GT sport fairly well I give em that.

It's almost like a PC graphics from high to ultra. It's not that big of a deal in the big picture.

ive been searching for it as well. Only thing ive found so far is that it's a remix or edit of "DJ Q feat. Zibba - Night Shift". Generally the genre youre looking for is UK garage/ 2-step.

Ha, you haven't played GT5 have you. Smoke effects in that was over the top.

Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition was my personal favorite. Rockstar Games needs to make a comeback with the series.

@@solid5502 They are too busy milking GTA Online and older GTA titles...

That's kinda to be expected, as it can change the priorities of the hardware. Theres more room for image quality when phyics aren't being rendered, lighting is static, and for model quality the model can be swapped during a few second long render process so that the system has plenty of time to render the greater quality assets and lighting. Id imagine on the ps5 that taking a picture also renders more light bounces and improves the surface simulation for ray tracing resulting in more true to life details.

what bloom?

@@spaceman-pe5je The sunreflections on the car are overdone, in my opinion. Thats what i mean with ''bloom''-effect.

@@PygmalionFaciebat huh, the sun reflections on the cars are one of the biggest improvements imo

It was always a PS4 game with a PS5 port so that was to be expected tbh

Its not a ps5 native game. What did you expect ? Lol

@@kingplaya6558 Same with Horizon Forbidden West. It looks STUNNING on PS5. Personally I think Driveclub (2014) on PS4 looks technically better than this visually. Although it runs at 1080p it's a much better presentation visually than this.

It's still a very beautiful looking game.

@@AdiusOmega I agree about Horizon, Guerilla Games has always been up there among the industry leaders with their tech and programming skills

I looked - barely different if at all. Same physics with only minor alterations (more tools to customize performance in GT7 though) The actual visual effects are near identical. Tire smoke is maybe slightly toned down - but it's hard to tell due to the way it interacts with the lighting.

I think it only happens on PS5 as an upgrade in graphics. I also think this is overdone and unrealistic.

@@johnsonluk3468 lol. sun shining on cars in real life is overdone and unrealistic.

Physics on off road tracks is extremely bad...

@@PhreakDarkSoul did a few rally track laps in license tests but they seemed fine to me except during bumps in the track

@@GotuUmraniya I faced a lot "invisble" bumps, sending my heavy truck high in the air.

@@PhreakDarkSoul i see

Loving the sense of speed the best thus far in GT.