Grand Theft Auto The Trilogy The Definitive Edition - What Happened?

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Matt McMuscles

Matt McMuscles

2 жыл бұрын

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Music List:
GTA San Andreas Theme Song
GTA IV Theme Song
Payday 2 - Armed to the Teeth
God Hand - Funk Man
No More Heroes - DND (Do Not Destroy)
de Blob 2 - The Factory (Incendiary)
205 C-1 Warriors - Racing Lagoon OST
20 Mythril Mines - Chocobo Racing OST
316 Underground City - Shin Megami Tensei - Digital Devil Saga 2 OST
01. Main Theme - Yoshi Crafted World OST
04_BGM0R - Shin Megami Tensei - Devil Summoner OST
127 Tension - Racing Lagoon OST
Track 07 - Lego Racers OST
30 - Impending Dread - Dragon Ball Kakarot OST
309 Road To Sodom - The Second Movement - Shin Megami Tensei - Digital Devil Saga 2 OST
27 Lots of Interesting Things - Chocobo's Dungeon 2 OST
DANCE - Grand Theft Auto OST
07. EPIC LABYRINTH - Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth OST
112 South Yokohama - Racing Lagoon OST
Track 30 - R4 - Ridge Racer Type 4 OST
13 - King Kai at the Edge of the Other World - Dragon Ball Kakarot OST
Track 02 - Lego Racers OST
#mattmcmuscles #whathappened #gtadefinitive

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@GuilhermePreissler
@GuilhermePreissler 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the shortest time a game went from being released to being wha happun'd
@markellhawthorne2921
@markellhawthorne2921 2 жыл бұрын
What about Balan?
@thabreez456
@thabreez456 2 жыл бұрын
Deserved i really wanted this analyzed
@EnigmaticGentleman
@EnigmaticGentleman 2 жыл бұрын
@@markellhawthorne2921 This was literally like a month, Balan was like 5
@grongy6122
@grongy6122 2 жыл бұрын
And I hope it would remain that way. I mean, can you imagine an even bigger fuck-up than GTA Trilogy? So bad, that Matt will upload an episode two days after the game's release? I don't want to live in that timeline tbh.
@imnosss
@imnosss 2 жыл бұрын
Cyberpunk was also pretty quick
@Bluewolftyler
@Bluewolftyler 2 жыл бұрын
I will never forget not even 24 hours after release, VargSkelethor managed to corrupt his game file by making CJ drink too much soda.
@LordArikado
@LordArikado 2 жыл бұрын
Sprunk'd it!
@MrDiana1706
@MrDiana1706 2 жыл бұрын
@Fat Chocobo funi swef
@TallTapper
@TallTapper 2 жыл бұрын
sprunked it
@cardioandfriends
@cardioandfriends 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are the AIDS of the fan base. That bug has been in SA since 2004 on PS2 because it’s an 32 bit integer overflow.
@stephaintdeadyet
@stephaintdeadyet 2 жыл бұрын
@@cardioandfriends who cares? just play the game
@johnselden9257
@johnselden9257 2 жыл бұрын
If you listen to GTA radio channels, they make fun of corporate practices….so Rockstar behaving the way it currently does is really a monstrous journey of becoming something it once hated. I have very little faith for further installments of the franchise.
@sorrymommy8190
@sorrymommy8190 2 жыл бұрын
Amen, brother. But I can’t say I’m surprised. Once you hit the kind of success R* has, I feel like that just happens. Sucks. Red Dead 2 was amazing so hopefully this just a setback, I really hope.
@TheIrishGamerGuy
@TheIrishGamerGuy 2 жыл бұрын
💯% Agreed
@inurokuwarz
@inurokuwarz 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, I wonder if all the anti-corprate stuff in rockstar games are the writers cry for help.
@Error-ck4jg
@Error-ck4jg 2 жыл бұрын
gta 6 is the only hope
@johnselden9257
@johnselden9257 2 жыл бұрын
@@inurokuwarz Lol. That would be great; hidden messages on the radio stations.
@Grinnar
@Grinnar 2 жыл бұрын
How could I forget Jack Thompson? He tried to sue Maxis so many times he had his law license revoked in two states.
@MalekitGJ
@MalekitGJ 2 жыл бұрын
He was far too ahead of his time, he was trying to warn us about THIS abomination T_T
@Cyberweasel89
@Cyberweasel89 2 жыл бұрын
@@YourIdeologyIsDelusional Yup! Always remember, conservatives are the REAL progenitors of "cancel culture." It was always Fox News who was pushing the "video games turn kids violent" narrative despite zero evidence. Then there's the weirdos who burned Dixie Chicks albums simply because one of them said she wasn't satisfied with W. Bush.
@Cyberweasel89
@Cyberweasel89 2 жыл бұрын
@@YourIdeologyIsDelusional I was wondering about that, since when I made an edit to correct a typo, the edit didn't show up.
@iwakeupandboomimarat
@iwakeupandboomimarat 2 жыл бұрын
he saw the future and we all ignored him 😔🙏
@hellishcyberdemon7112
@hellishcyberdemon7112 2 жыл бұрын
@@YourIdeologyIsDelusional Jack Thompson is just the opposite of Anita Sarkeesian... ones a liberal who wants everything censored and is triggered... the other is a conservative who whats everything censored and is triggered
@DrUSB
@DrUSB 2 жыл бұрын
The most memorable footage of this disaster was when Vinesauce Joel crashed San Andreas by drinking about 600 cans of sprunk.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 2 жыл бұрын
GTA SA: Sprunkrun any%
@Crocogator
@Crocogator 2 жыл бұрын
Sprunk'd it
@MrCed122
@MrCed122 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : that's actually a glitch that exist in the original console release, but it only crash, nothing more, you juste need to reload your save, it's the auto-save of the Definitive Edition (and mobile / PS360 ports) that corrupt the save since it always load at the moment of the crash.
@soulindenial5001
@soulindenial5001 2 жыл бұрын
"My heart don't pump no sprunk"
@kyler7578
@kyler7578 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Joel.
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those stories where I knew all the details going in, because I was just there, watching in real time as a game, and multiple companies, just slip, fall on their butts, break their hip, and then poop themselves within seconds. I'm so disappointed, yet somewhat actually impressed to see a failure happen this quickly. Usually it happens over months/years prior or after, but in a span of weeks... Rockstar, you keep on breaking records in more ways than one!
@warlockd
@warlockd 2 жыл бұрын
Its like he said, it was supposed to be a "slam dunk" I am sure none of the managers that approved this did any research on what assets they had left, or how hard it be to port to UE4. I am not defending Rockstar, but pulling the trigger before quarterly statements is standard practice:P
@IncoherentMoron
@IncoherentMoron 2 жыл бұрын
@@myfatassdick GTA is Rockstar's flagship series and the two brands are inseparable; it doesn't matter that Grove Street was the developer doing this work, these remasters ultimately make Rockstar look bad Rockstar let this happen: there's a lot more people working for any of Rockstar's other studios than there are at Grove Street, so maybe they should have offered more material assistance if they wanted to avoid this disaster
@AkiKimurr
@AkiKimurr 2 жыл бұрын
@Lost forever. according to your nickname, you definitely are
@Urelasir
@Urelasir 2 жыл бұрын
@@AkiKimurr good one.
@flyingtoast27
@flyingtoast27 2 жыл бұрын
@Lost forever. The bait on that hook is looking mighty tasty, good work
@noanswer1864
@noanswer1864 2 жыл бұрын
What do you get when you punish modders in a misguided attempt to sell a piece of shit? What you fucking deserve.
@ocdc3261
@ocdc3261 2 жыл бұрын
damn right
@Mirandasiwillja
@Mirandasiwillja Жыл бұрын
couple million dollars probably
@ocdc3261
@ocdc3261 Жыл бұрын
@@Mirandasiwillja they easily spent that much on marketing it lol they lose
@channel45853
@channel45853 Жыл бұрын
​@@ocdc3261 no, they made a good bit of money, the gamers lose.
@ocdc3261
@ocdc3261 Жыл бұрын
@@channel45853 Maybe you lost 🤷‍♂ I didn't buy it. That's all that matters to me, is that they didn't get my dollar.
@outphase78
@outphase78 2 жыл бұрын
As tragic as this moment in gaming history is, what's even more tragic is the tons and tons of gamers who are like "wHo CaReS? iTs JuSt A gAmE, tHeYll UpDaTe It." Further proving to rockstar that there is a market of dumb zombies gamers who will consume the most shittiest of slop.
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel 2 жыл бұрын
"It's just a games" Yeah a game that cost $70 dollars plus tax. And of course there's those who do enjoy the game but feel the need to brag that they don't have any problems because it's getting shit on. Like good for you but not everyone is so lucky. I don't nor can't buy these games but I can at least show some sympathy.
@blueprint7
@blueprint7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saltedroastedcaramelyou sound jealous of people who don't complain about everything
@blueprint7
@blueprint7 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe they were smart enough to wait before buying it you big baby
@cowboyga1
@cowboyga1 2 жыл бұрын
@@blueprint7 found the bootlicker
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel 2 жыл бұрын
@@blueprint7 That's cool and all, but nobody asked, coomer. "Or maybe they smart enough to wait before buying you big baby" *_I dOn'T nOr CaN't BuY tHeSe GaMeS_*
@Anton1699
@Anton1699 2 жыл бұрын
“They’re all bad.” - That’s the kind of in-depth information I’ve come to love and expect from Digital Foundry.
@50Personas
@50Personas 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing about this bit is that it kinda mirrors one DF did themselves in their GTA 3 analysis video. Something along those lines: John: "So I'll call Richard now [he hadn't appeared in the video up to that point] and ask him: Richard, which version should one play?" Richard: "No." And that was it, Richard never appeared again in that video.
@BlueisNotaWarmColour
@BlueisNotaWarmColour 2 жыл бұрын
@@50Personas the legendary Ledbetter
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 2 жыл бұрын
Even by corporate greed standards, the whole Definitive Edition debacle was an absolute dumpster fire. The sheer arrogance and stupidity to force an underprepared studio to cobble up a quick rehash of some of the most beloved titles in history within a ridiculously tight deadline is just mindblowing. Like Matt said, releasing these games once every year for say $30 / piece would've been so much more profitable in the long run. But nobody cares about the long run anymore, it's crazy.
@Vaguer_Weevil
@Vaguer_Weevil 2 жыл бұрын
These companies have been so fixated on loot boxes and crappy mobile cash grabs the last several years that it seems they've forgotten how to make games. You wouldn't think it but there was a time when even the Triple A companies took pride in their franchises and their libraries of games, those times are long gone now and it's only getting worse..
@mementocity
@mementocity 2 жыл бұрын
Grove street games underprepared? they already worked on it before and triped on the same rock in an even more clusterfuckery way, maybe if they didnt abandoned the old port they could had fixed it overtime and actually make a good port then they could have had a great base for the definitive edition
@libertatemadvocatus1797
@libertatemadvocatus1797 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why is because most corporate positions nowadays are based on generating short-term profits. You pull off something that makes a quick buck and you get promoted or find a higher paying position in another company. So many corporate executives are looking at something to churn out a quick buck with no regards for long lasting consequences. All the people above them see is they spent X amount and they got Y amount in profit which is a profit margin of Z and therefore they are promoted. That's why you're seeing so many corporations making really dumb and short-sighted decisions. Crank out a shoddy profit, make a quick profit, and let the next poor bastard deal with the fallout.
@AdumbroDeus
@AdumbroDeus 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fundamental problem with the way capitalism manifests in modern society. Quartly profits are all that matters, nobody considers the long term damage to corporate reputation. That's why preordering is a bad idea.
@jackd6881
@jackd6881 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait until the prince of persia remake comes out it will make this game look like a masterpiece.
@willyhoo2946
@willyhoo2946 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Grove Street isn't being trashed too hard. A team of 21 for 3 remasters for a massive audience of a beloved game is TOO MUCH. Rockstar, who has teams, who has funding, who controls deadlines and QA, is responsible.
@geeknproud321
@geeknproud321 11 ай бұрын
Grove Street could have turned down the job or offered to alternatively do a focused remaster of a single game. Anyone in their right mind knows this kind of project is way WAY too big for a team that small to handle on a deadline. They should have known their limits. Yeah, it all leads back to Rockstar's poor decision-making with their own franchise, but Grovestreet saw dollar signs. Both are to blame. It's too bad because a lot of Grovestreet's work modernizing and updating the game's environments and visuals is lovely. It's a shame that the volume of work forced them to rely entirely on automated processes instead of using them where it made sense. Eventually these will probably be the ultimate versions of the games given enough time and mod support. But even now in Summer of 2023 they're still kind of a joke.
@benjamincox4211
@benjamincox4211 10 ай бұрын
@@geeknproud321bro this was their golden ticket. Why tf would they turn the project down
@geeknproud321
@geeknproud321 10 ай бұрын
@@benjamincox4211 Because it was CLEARLY way too big a project for them and their failure to deliver ended up nearly shuttering the company and getting them kicked off the IP permanently... Theyre responsible for one of the worst bellyflops in game development history. Anyone with even basic experience in games development KNOWS that the team they had was WAY too small for the project they bid on.
@benjamincox4211
@benjamincox4211 10 ай бұрын
@@geeknproud321 like you said, anyone should know and yet rockstar still hired them. This is on them. No company will turn down a huge deal like that and it’s unreasonable to expect them to. This all comes from rockstar not wanting to pay their own team to make a good game
@geeknproud321
@geeknproud321 10 ай бұрын
@@benjamincox4211 I mean that's actually a fair point. Rockstar also should have known better. They are veterans among veterans. But also Grovestreet overstepped their abilities 100%.
@ThatOneAwkGuy
@ThatOneAwkGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why rockstar or grove street don't just buy the updated assets that the modders have spent YEARS creating. I'm sure the modders would be more than happy to put their work in an official game, plus, they'll make money! Most of the work is already done!
@armintargaryen9216
@armintargaryen9216 2 жыл бұрын
Ego, I guess
@alexlemus2559
@alexlemus2559 2 жыл бұрын
Money
@steveweast475
@steveweast475 2 жыл бұрын
My modded game is infinite times better than DE, not even capping
@thefbi901
@thefbi901 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveweast475 fr the graphics mods I downloaded look 100x better than the DE could ever hope to achieve.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Giam Rockstar: names their biggest franchise after a felony, is stricter on its players than Ninfuckingtendo.
@ratchetxtreme6591
@ratchetxtreme6591 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, haven’t seen a hd remaster/ definitive edition get received this badly since the infamous Silent Hill HD collection.
@MattMcMuscles
@MattMcMuscles 2 жыл бұрын
Warcraft 3 Re-forged
@ratchetxtreme6591
@ratchetxtreme6591 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattMcMuscles I honestly forgot about that one.
@torrashinjiro4196
@torrashinjiro4196 2 жыл бұрын
At least the ps3 version had a patch that ironed out some of the bugs...
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 2 жыл бұрын
@@ratchetxtreme6591 YOU KNOW A REMASTER IS BAD WHEN YOU FORGET THE WHOLE ASS GAME
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 2 жыл бұрын
Ratchet Deadlocked on PS3. The DIGITAL version specifically. Bad framerate, constant twitching in cutscenes, bugs, and screwed up models in some sections (Vox's teeth and the infamous zoom-in on Ratchet's face)
@lyras.9161
@lyras.9161 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly impressive, the ability to deny yourself an easy paycheck. This should've been the most no-brainer, easy cash-grab release in years, and they managed to botch it this bad.
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch 2 жыл бұрын
it's just doing it properly would have taken more than one quarterly period and that's all the execs care about in modern capitalism
@xemnahort2
@xemnahort2 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t take longer if they had done one game at a time to they can triple/quadruple dip into customers’ wallets with the 3 remasters and then finished trilogy
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch 2 жыл бұрын
@@truthwooph4083 not anymore, and i didn't have a choice in that in the first place. what's your point, corporate simp?
@michaellai536
@michaellai536 2 жыл бұрын
@@LilacMonarch be happy u're in a capititalist country, can't say the same for people in socialist country
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellai536 say the same about what?
@Seriona1
@Seriona1 2 жыл бұрын
The issue about the music is that Rockstar didn't even try to renew the licenses, they just didn't care. The most expensive song to licenses as far as I know is Thunderstruck which goes for 750K so Rockstar could easily drop a million and still get the song, no corporation will never sell at a certain price. There is always a price. And the thing too is that if they had to remove songs, they could of replaced them.
@joshuavis2736
@joshuavis2736 2 жыл бұрын
19:18 is perfect. The way he falls through the map randomly and goes oh fuck. Perfect dialogue
@nexarus42
@nexarus42 2 жыл бұрын
"Rockstar, what happened? We was like family" "I got caught up in the money, the power... I don't give a shit. Oh fuck, man... I had no choice... I had to do it... I just see the opportunity. OH, when I'm gone, everyone gonna remember my name... Rockstar! OHhhh..."
@kurtcobain279489
@kurtcobain279489 2 жыл бұрын
"Damn, what a waste..."
@mercenarygundam1487
@mercenarygundam1487 2 жыл бұрын
@@kurtcobain279489 Then Take Two (AKA Tenpenny) Shows up
@ruchampsajaksra2954
@ruchampsajaksra2954 2 жыл бұрын
Even though you're using a changed quote, people really need to leave their nostalgia shelters and learn that companies aren't ""friends""
@LeeEverett1
@LeeEverett1 2 жыл бұрын
They warned us in RDR2. "Just one more big score, then we can retire..."
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 2 жыл бұрын
Rockstar Games: I HAVE A PLAN! YOU JUST HAVE TO TRUST ME, GROVE STREET GAMES!
@rubz1390
@rubz1390 2 жыл бұрын
Matt is quite clever-he is set up for life. As long as there are video games,there will be video game disasters. Endless topics for this series.
@superrazor7617
@superrazor7617 2 жыл бұрын
Aslong as he dosnt feel burn out or feels like giving up like other youtubers sadly have done
@FLoridianJoshua
@FLoridianJoshua 2 жыл бұрын
Same with movies.
@bobafett4265
@bobafett4265 2 жыл бұрын
@@FLoridianJoshua true I was about to say that. XD
@Nicoyutub
@Nicoyutub 2 жыл бұрын
Also I think this type of video is where his skill shines. He knows the industry and is perfect for the job.
@birdfish86
@birdfish86 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and I feel things will only get worse as we go.
@DyaMetR
@DyaMetR 2 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell: Rockstar wanted to remaster three giant games (with the prospect of having to remake them completely) without the cost or time needed for said undertaking. Bravo.
@AlastorAltruistGaming
@AlastorAltruistGaming 8 ай бұрын
Which is funny, because Rockstar never did the remastering at all.
@DyaMetR
@DyaMetR 8 ай бұрын
@@AlastorAltruistGaming true
@thatsallreviews
@thatsallreviews Жыл бұрын
Crazy to think this video is a year old. Still one of my favorite Wha Happun episodes.
@goblinsrevenge
@goblinsrevenge 2 жыл бұрын
@21:45 As someone who has been doing QA for over 9 years, just wanted to say thanks for what you said in regards to this game's QA. It does bug me (no pun intended) sometimes when I see comments asking "did they not even test this?!" or that "unexpected technical issues" comment from Rockstar. Mainly because not only would Grove's Street QA have raised red flags, but Rockstars own QA would have done the same when they recieved mile stone builds of the game, so they knew full well the state of the game but still decided to make Grove Street keep to that deadline. So thanks again for speaking up for QA in general and I look forward to the next video.
@JustAnotherRandomGamer
@JustAnotherRandomGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda cute that we think they even had QAs considering they just ignore the reported bugs anyway lol
@arnox4554
@arnox4554 2 жыл бұрын
"We're sorry you didn't have the experience you wanted."
@JustAnotherRandomGamer
@JustAnotherRandomGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@Potato King I mean one thing they like is money, so they probably just made their devs QAs as well to cut more cost lol
@tink5488
@tink5488 2 жыл бұрын
What blows me away is, the mods for graphics, fixes and whatnot for the original versions were far superior than what we received. If I was in R*'s/TT's position to remaster, I would've instead contacted the mod authors and gave them lump sum + royalties, along with a plague somewhere in-game to honor all those who worked on the mods (with names etc.). This would've been a huge plus, and done them wonders to get their credibility back that they've lost over the years with GTA Online and RDR Online (Plus lack of DLCs for both games). Care about modding community that loves the game more than the company - check. Care about the original content to the point where you hire/pay those that did the work for you and properly compensate them - check. Honor the original content. HONOR THE ORIGINAL CONTENT. Ugh. It disgusts me how they unabashedly shit on Grand Theft Auto. Period. Full Stop. Then 'rewrite history' by removing the superior products, making it so torrenting is the only way to get it (sucks for console players). What sucks is it seems the soul of Rockstar is still in there, GTA V was alright (base game) and RDR 2 singleplayer was outstanding. But the body (take two among other things) is just.. rotten, and it's been seeping into Rockstar for decades. Just a damned shame.
@joshhacker8503
@joshhacker8503 2 жыл бұрын
Big Smoke Reviews the trilogy; "All you had to do was upgrade the damn graphics, CJ!"
@topheradkins2275
@topheradkins2275 2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic as always and I totally agree it should have been GTA 3 alone. It would have stood a chance at being decent. Rockstar has fallen so far from good grace. I won't even preorder GTA 6 in 2043.
@steveweast475
@steveweast475 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you even plan on preordering in the first place though 😂
@Riese79
@Riese79 2 жыл бұрын
No one cares for gta3.
@sideeyed7682
@sideeyed7682 Жыл бұрын
@@elmedico3717 I mean…not any more dude. Like yeah, back then it was the shit and the one that basically “started it all” but it’s pretty forgettable when you compare it to the ones that came after.
@clarenceboddicker6679
@clarenceboddicker6679 Жыл бұрын
Production on GTA 6 will be completed by 2069
@alexandriaburnett2801
@alexandriaburnett2801 Жыл бұрын
@@clarenceboddicker6679 nice
@greatsupper
@greatsupper 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly kind of endearing how far the video game industry has come and yet we are still witness to complete utter failures at this degree from highly respected publishers. The experience of being able to laugh at this colossal dumpster fire is A LOT more valuable than some halfway competent cash grab remaster that comes and goes without anyone noticing.
@TheGameCupboard
@TheGameCupboard 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who worked in game QA for a year THANK YOU for pointing out that these bugs 100% would have been reported and were just ignored. I've seen a lot of blame being pointed at a lazy QA department and it's been infuriating. Keep up the great work.
@isaacargesmith8217
@isaacargesmith8217 2 жыл бұрын
If I recall Matt actually was in QA too, not sure if he pointed that out by that point I havent gotten through this fully yet.
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta have some hardcore naivety and ignorance to think QA and devs don't know exactly how awful these products are.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
This is GTA TDE, _what_ QA department!?
@Drakkel
@Drakkel 2 жыл бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Congrats on completely missing the point of the comment
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drakkel What's the point of even having a QA department if the bosses are just going to ignore them and rush crap out anyway? Just to have someone else to blame?
@alexzero2629
@alexzero2629 2 жыл бұрын
The most damning question is this....why do companies NOT better store and protect their source code? Isn't that a valuable asset to control?
@schemar17
@schemar17 2 жыл бұрын
Because they don't care for games like us
@alexzero2629
@alexzero2629 2 жыл бұрын
@@schemar17 they care enough to sue modders. So that doesn't track.
@charlesblasini2134
@charlesblasini2134 2 жыл бұрын
Because the industry is still fairly new when it comes to standards like this. Compare it to the music industry. How much old music is lost to time because they existed in a time before masters were treated like valuable assets?
@zelpyzelp
@zelpyzelp 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of studios honestly just don't think that far ahead and you almost can't blame them. Like, would Nintendo have really believed you if you told them the Mario game they're working on the 90s is going to still have people clammering for it like 3 decades from now, *and* think that investing in long term storage for all these source code files would be worth it?
@alexzero2629
@alexzero2629 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesblasini2134 I think remaking games has been around long enough after the multiple ports that have been sold of this very game. The company NOT having the source code protected and at the ready is both the reason they fucked this up and a cost they pass on to the customer when they don't take their time to find another solution. You're a software company. Control your assets. It's a fairly simple concept for a billion dollar company.
@PsychoPatYT
@PsychoPatYT 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly disheartening. With all of the public criticism and discussion over the declining state of much of the industry, instances like this feel like they're becoming more and more common. It makes me feel completely powerless.
@chemergency
@chemergency 2 жыл бұрын
We need another 1983-style industry crash. It won't get better until it all burns to the ground.
@ollih.901
@ollih.901 2 жыл бұрын
@@chemergency The industry is too large and diversified to make that happen again, but you could primarily buy decent indigames like Darkest Dungeon, Rimworld etc. Its just the big titles that get ruined by coporate decisions (especially when they can have microtransactions) and even in this field there are still some great games like Anno 1800. It's just incredibly disheartening when it hits a franchise you like. I own all GTA games (got the first one in 1998) except for this definitve peace of crap. My heart is bleeding.
@themendorean
@themendorean 2 жыл бұрын
Well Become a pirate
@Homerboy44
@Homerboy44 Жыл бұрын
Mainstream can literally burn itself to the ground for cash. Just buy indie games, where the devs there actually care about you and make you feel "powerful".
@SXR123_YT
@SXR123_YT 2 жыл бұрын
24:04 "Tuff nuts logo shape restored" looks to me like it's still got all that detail on the inside LOL.
@Haysey_Draws
@Haysey_Draws 2 жыл бұрын
You know that physicals theory actually makes a lot of sense. Last year in my local CEX the shelves were stacked with copies of Cyberpunk the first week of release, Rockstar clearly were learning lessons...just all the WRONG lessons.
@cujo1882
@cujo1882 2 жыл бұрын
I knew what corporates plan was right when I saw they weren’t releasing physical copies. This is exactly what people were afraid with this digital age these companies evil intent taking advantage of the consumer with garbage and take away any form of reimbursement
@PainfullyCasual
@PainfullyCasual 2 жыл бұрын
It always hits me that what happened to Rockstar is karmic justice to them due to what they did to they dedicated fans which do mods to freshen up and made they're games more replayable.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
Karmic justice would be pirating this franchise named after theft after it tried to steal money from people in the real world. 🏴‍☠️
@xjcl6469
@xjcl6469 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I know the studio had 21 people I’m frankly surprised the games work as well as they do. That’s 7 people to port each game, about 1 person per game per platform lol
@Mickey-rg1gl
@Mickey-rg1gl 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God I still have all my old GTAs for PS2, I really dodged a bullet there.
@TheNotoriousNemo
@TheNotoriousNemo Жыл бұрын
Same I got the high quality cables and game looks great
@Mickey-rg1gl
@Mickey-rg1gl Жыл бұрын
@@TheNotoriousNemo Glad to hear it my man.
@Lagomorph27
@Lagomorph27 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Microsoft put the San Andreas version on Gamepass as soon as it released. Like they were trying to tell us “look, don’t pay for this shit”
@swinelias
@swinelias 2 жыл бұрын
And I thank them for it.
@JM-dq7xn
@JM-dq7xn 2 жыл бұрын
They still pay them a cut of your subscription fee
@Lagomorph27
@Lagomorph27 2 жыл бұрын
@@JM-dq7xn I’m more concerned about wasting money that could be used on a product with an actual level of quality.
@vulcanitu2578
@vulcanitu2578 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lagomorph27 I played it on gamepass, I still regret it
@rutabaga_rutabaga
@rutabaga_rutabaga 2 жыл бұрын
You know this Wha Happun is wild when the video clocks in at half an hour (not that I'm complaining).
@F0nkyNinja
@F0nkyNinja 2 жыл бұрын
The animated intro to this show is fucking insane lol. I can't believe how nobody commented that yet.
@extremegrieferbible
@extremegrieferbible 9 ай бұрын
It's actually shocking that a company like Rockstar Games, who's swimming in money thanks to what GTA V and GTA Online still bring in monthly, couldn't be arsed to put some resources into remastering some of their most beloved games and had it outsourced, with 90% of the world "improvements" being done by a faulty AI.
@ignisx3791
@ignisx3791 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Grove Street. 21 people told to remaster 3 different games with as little time as they were given. This is all Take Two's responsibility and they failed.
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 2 жыл бұрын
_"I'll have two number 9s, number 9 large, number 6, with extra dip, number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda."_ *~ Big Smoke in 4K quality edition*
@YourFeelingsSucks
@YourFeelingsSucks 2 жыл бұрын
"All you had to do was following the DAMN train, CJ!"
@KremBotop
@KremBotop 2 жыл бұрын
At this point Rockstar should just go back to their roots, take a break from AAAA feature creep and make a new Lemmings game (?). They even have the funds to add a fully licensed soundtrack, unlike the first game.
@BigEOT3
@BigEOT3 2 жыл бұрын
Lemmings is owned by Sony. So expect Abby to kill the Lemmings and Twisted Metal to be ignored again and again and AGAIN.
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigEOT3 and have people complain that one of the Lemmings is gay or some shit
@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr
@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr 2 жыл бұрын
Why do that when GTA online is easier and makes more money?
@KremBotop
@KremBotop 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigEOT3 Now that’s some fresh information I didn’t know before. Lemmings was just a bit on my mind recently because of a newish video that talked about its public-domain soundtrack. The mere fact that the same studio that made it would end up creating GTA is astonishing.
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 2 жыл бұрын
@@salkjshaweoiuenvohvr because business is hard y'know?
@joesmutz9287
@joesmutz9287 2 жыл бұрын
What they should have done is follow the Halo Master Chief Edition concept and sell them all together, but release them one at a time Would have given them the time to get it done, and gotten people invested in sticking around
@LeeEverett1
@LeeEverett1 2 жыл бұрын
All I want in a modern game is to have it well polished AT release, have most of its content at launch instead of cutting a chunk of it for paid DLC, and no bullshit microtransactions that give you an advantage over other players online. It's like I'm asking for the impossible with these expectations
@KaimArgonarEyyyy
@KaimArgonarEyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, since a simple one-time purchase doesn't give these piece of shit companies all the money in the world that they so want.
@Homerboy44
@Homerboy44 Жыл бұрын
Just buy indie games. Much more polish for a fraction of the cost.
@MoogleEmpMog
@MoogleEmpMog Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not as if Doom Eternal, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Resident Evil Village, Returnal, Monster Hunter World, Horizon Forbidden West, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, Halo Infinite, Stray, Guilty Gear Strive, Forza Horizon V, Pokemon Legends Arceus, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Final Fantasy Origins Strangers of Paradise, Bravely Default 2, Metroid Dread, and, oh, yeah, a little somethin-somethin called *Elden Ring* came out in just the last three years. All of those from platform holders or major publishers, btw; I'm not even going to begin to list the litany of indie hits. By all means, enjoy funny looks at the foibles of projects that went awry. But don't let that confuse you about the amount of absolutely fantastic new releases we get every year.
@cardenasr.2898
@cardenasr.2898 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how the bare minimum that we 90s and 2000s gamers got it's too much to ask in the current year. And the buggy messes we made fun of are now the standard in the industry
@arthurdurham
@arthurdurham 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few situations where I'd have no issue pirating the original versions of the game. If Take Two isn't going to let us purchase the objectively superior originals, then yargh maties!
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
Yarrr, let the Jolly Roger fly loud and proud! 🏴‍☠️
@drumboarder1
@drumboarder1 2 жыл бұрын
And hopefully we can find safe Russian sites still hosting the HD mods, if one piece's HD vehicles aren't available then it's war crime time
@Chewberto
@Chewberto 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I'd been meaning to play the original GTA 3D trilogy for years and never got around to it. When the definitive versions came out, I saw how bad they were, and I saw that the originals had been delisted, I immediately pirated GTA 3 in my first act of piracy ever. I regret nothing.
@phoenixmarktwo
@phoenixmarktwo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chewberto This is literally a villain arc, good on you lmao
@whereamigoing777
@whereamigoing777 2 жыл бұрын
Argh, sail the seas, find copies for free!
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 2 жыл бұрын
Rockstar just wasted their entire reputation in a month Quite impressive tbh
@Sachi10007
@Sachi10007 2 жыл бұрын
Blame Take-Two for this
@theoriginaltommysteward
@theoriginaltommysteward 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sachi10007 I blame everyone involved. It's not like this is the first shitty move by Rockstar.
@irkmcspamtroll2556
@irkmcspamtroll2556 2 жыл бұрын
People will still line up around the block to buy anything they put out.
@jamstonjulian6947
@jamstonjulian6947 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sachi10007 Why are Rockstar not also culpable?
@SteeZy644
@SteeZy644 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamstonjulian6947 bc ppl still have hope that their favorite devs/publishers aren’t also greedy pieces of shit even though they are See: CDPR shortly before 2077 dropped
@worldofthought8352
@worldofthought8352 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Thompson wasn't the only one that rallied against the GTA franchise, years before that when GTA first came out there was an episode of 'Police Camera Action' (showing police arresting speed drivers) Where they showcased footage from the PS1 game and said it encourages/inspires dangerous driving. Madness.
@rustkitty
@rustkitty Жыл бұрын
15:20 Employee count on LinkedIn is always an under estimate, because lots of people don't use LinkedIn (it's not a very good site). The company I currently work for has 13 employees on LinkedIn, but the actual count is 24, almost twice as much. That said, even 40-50 employees wouldn't be enough for making 3 concurrent remasters of already buggy games on a short time frame and then dealing with the backlash and the bug fix workload.
@freezehorn
@freezehorn 2 жыл бұрын
as a silent hill fan, i feel a deep kinship with the poor gta fans enduring this rn. you are not alone, brothers and sisters. welcome to the hd remaster ranch [written in comic sans]
@sonnitude
@sonnitude 2 жыл бұрын
I still forget on occasion that they legit did that for silent hill…
@joshgutteridge2909
@joshgutteridge2909 2 жыл бұрын
All the more reason I still have the originals on the ps2.
@metademetra
@metademetra 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine wishing desperately to play the originals and to enter the fan base, but can't because they're nowhere online, and the originals are $100 used.
@GothicServer
@GothicServer 2 жыл бұрын
COMIC SANS?!?!
@anothergamer112
@anothergamer112 2 жыл бұрын
It really sucks. I've never played a GTA before, so i thought this collection would be a good place to start. Then this happens.
@dmenor11ification
@dmenor11ification 2 жыл бұрын
Pirate the original games. Piracy is the boycotter's best friend.
@kejiri3593
@kejiri3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmenor11ification Yeah i concur. This is not worth supporting. if you buy this then its basically rewarding greed. Only time i think its ok to buy is if they fix the Toy Story face models to something more real as the originals were, basically so GTA doesnt look like a Pixar movie basically
@TheArtunism
@TheArtunism 2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, the original PC San Andreas is my favorite next to GTA V
@martinkeys3717
@martinkeys3717 2 жыл бұрын
They've been fixed now. This video is about 2 weeks too late
@Windows11Sucks
@Windows11Sucks 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gatorade69 hell you can even get gta sa ps2 graphic and looks the pc version is the most famous version of sa because of mods
@robotman5105
@robotman5105 2 жыл бұрын
Something that bothers me is people keep calling the models “AI upscaled” when it’s really lazier than that. It’s just a smoothing modifier in every standard 3D software. Okay I actually can’t confirm without looking at the original models but I highly doubt there’s a functional AI for 3D model upscaling.
@Makaponpon
@Makaponpon 2 жыл бұрын
idk man, ive seen the original gta sa models quite a lot(at least the mobile ones, as that is the only version i own) and it REALLY does seem like they merely smoothed out the polygons or what have you, with nothing more.
@kodiekulp
@kodiekulp 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you'll see this but I've been watching your channel for a while and this is definitely the best video you've done in a long time. And I'm not trying to say that your other videos have suffered lack of quality or something... You just did an excellent job with the research here and there was some really funny stuff in here that really made me chuckle. I always enjoy your content but this video was like the Oscar winner for 2022. Cheers.
@AgentCell
@AgentCell 2 жыл бұрын
The definitive edition was already finished long ago. It was completed by the mod community.
@ThatNormalBunny
@ThatNormalBunny 2 жыл бұрын
Getting in contact with a bunch of respected modders and officially paying them to remaster the 3 games would have probably been a better idea lol
@almightytallestred
@almightytallestred 2 жыл бұрын
_"We then took advantage of the effects in the new renderer, which enabled us to do far more than add a new lightning effect here and there."_ And it shows. It really does. Like how they made the rain look infinitely worse.
@martinkeys3717
@martinkeys3717 2 жыл бұрын
That's been fixed. In fact almost all these issues have. This video is about 2 weeks too late. Rockstar stepped in and took over from Grove Street Games and got it up to scratch. The rain is good, the fog is back and the bugs are gone.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinkeys3717 Ok shill. Yeah, I see you trying to outdate the outrage. 😒
@EonServoXA
@EonServoXA 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinkeys3717 He addressed that in the video so it’s not late
@SolidSnake240
@SolidSnake240 5 ай бұрын
This one still hurts. I'll never forgive them for how they treated these legendary games lol
@jrsivmusicltd
@jrsivmusicltd Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I've been watching the various GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition video asskickings and this is by far the most thorough and thoughtful. Excellent job brother...
@thedonofthsht76-58
@thedonofthsht76-58 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me appreciate Mass Effect Legendary edition that much more. They didn't take their original versions down either
@thepaintingbanjo8894
@thepaintingbanjo8894 2 жыл бұрын
The ME remasters had the decency to go back to the original engine the trilogy used - which is Unreal. Kinda surprised me how great they are, considering I thought Bioware - or really EA - would fuck it all up again like they did with Andromeda by mandating they use Frostbite or some shit. Leave it to Rockstar shortly after a stellar release with RDR2 and who sees GTA as their own identity to completely screw everything up.
@bearerofbadnews1375
@bearerofbadnews1375 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me appreciate Nier Replicant ver 1.2247. not only did it enhance the gameplay of the original, but added new content and ending that was very touching and bittersweet.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
@@thepaintingbanjo8894 Remember, EA actually _likes_ money. 🦀 💰
@bodybag22
@bodybag22 2 жыл бұрын
Anthem * cough cough*
@snailthelostcow63
@snailthelostcow63 2 жыл бұрын
@@bearerofbadnews1375 These so called "remasters" will be so perfect if the company behind it actually realized it's a beloved franchise for many and not just an easy cash grab.
@TheGodOfWarhammer
@TheGodOfWarhammer 2 жыл бұрын
Thats the kind of turn around i was expecting from you on this. After hearing this explanation oh the graphics overall, I get it. It’s artist syndrome in that you see ways to make things “better”, but you commit to a level of consistent quality you can’t maintain
@YourFeelingsSucks
@YourFeelingsSucks 2 жыл бұрын
By focusing more on the graphics for a game, collection, the gameplay should never be tossed asides, they could have tested the trilogy, delaying it until it is more solid, 60 euros for a broken mess is unacceptable. Edit: 60 euros remains too much expensive for a game or "collection" alone, but it's way worse when the final product is a broken mess.
@zappky9408
@zappky9408 2 жыл бұрын
This game is the definitive meaning of comedy gold.
@KingDoyle1996
@KingDoyle1996 2 жыл бұрын
Good i kept all the original disk versions of this game. Never underestimate physical media in a digital era.
@mrroboshadow
@mrroboshadow 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes removing the better older versions of a game and saddling your customers with an inferior "remastered" version i think its colloquially known as "pulling a Blizzard" and it worked out soo well for them
@comaiscool
@comaiscool 2 жыл бұрын
"Props like bushes and fences were re-meshed and made solid..." Ahh...my old nemesis...the indestructible bush
@enbytoon
@enbytoon 2 жыл бұрын
That final quote is the most damning possible thing that could have been said in regards to this disaster so thank you for including it
@tubebammy
@tubebammy 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since this game came out, whenever I feel down, upset or angry, I just watch glitch clips from this game so that I can have a good hearty few laughs to cheer me up.
@tubebammy
@tubebammy 2 жыл бұрын
@@truthwooph4083 I prefer the term "interactive comedy"
@katsand92
@katsand92 2 жыл бұрын
A What Happened on American McGee's Alice would be poignant considering he released the story outline of the next game he wants to do, stating that EA just doesn't want anything to do with the IP, but doesn't want to sell it either. And/Or Parasite Eve. I loved the first two games, but BOY did the 3rd one fall flat on its face.
@jakewulgar
@jakewulgar 2 жыл бұрын
Ya looking back to when i played Madness Returns, it felt pretty mild and toned down compared to the first game. I figured it was just that many years since the first game, it was probably a different company etc. imagine if they made it sooner by the same people who made the first game.
@Blur4strike
@Blur4strike Жыл бұрын
@@KeyBladeMaster-Dan I blame all the parties involved in the mess that was "The 3rd Birthday" (Tabata, and Nomura being among them.)
@brianknocik
@brianknocik Ай бұрын
I would be more interested in McGee’s Bad Day LA
@onionheadguy7094
@onionheadguy7094 2 жыл бұрын
For being such a huge and prolific company Rockstar barely even makes games anymore. They are basically a dlc studio in this era. RIP Rockstar
@ddjsoyenby
@ddjsoyenby 2 жыл бұрын
yeah sadly.
@muhammedraashid3667
@muhammedraashid3667 2 жыл бұрын
RDR2 ? anyone??
@TargetHHH101
@TargetHHH101 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very well thought out and put together review. Very good job my dude.
@rougerosso5478
@rougerosso5478 2 жыл бұрын
I love how San Andreas is a remastered version of a mobile port of an HD version of the Xbox 360 version of the game, it is so utterly bizarre and im not surprised that it is just terrible with all the most likely just spaghetti code and old code in the game
@v3ck1n
@v3ck1n 5 ай бұрын
You've got that a bit backwards, the Xbox 360 version is also based off the original iphone mobile port
@lunaangeleclipse9745
@lunaangeleclipse9745 Ай бұрын
It's like when you put a sentence through multiple languages in google translate. turns into a garbled mess.
@Neonsilver13
@Neonsilver13 2 жыл бұрын
Just doing GTA3 first would probably also have cut down development time and QA time significantly for the other two games. Simply because they probably share a lot of the code base. So doing the simplest game first would have been the logical choice. Another, probably much more simple choice might have been to just get into contact with various modders, buy their mods and just release the games with the mods preinstalled. That would at least be viable for the PC port. For the consoles it might be a bit more complicated.
@LeeEverett1
@LeeEverett1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't go this route tbh. Release each game with a $50 price tag but put more effort into one game at a time
@LizardGenes
@LizardGenes 2 жыл бұрын
25:28 "So it really behooves one..." (shows footage of horses and their hooves). That's exactly the sort of visual-script matching comedy I want and expect from this channel.
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198 2 жыл бұрын
I still regularly play Vice City on my PS2, for years I've dreamt of the same game but with updated graphics and less clunky gameplay/shooting, it'd be sn absolute dream... but they made this.
@jmfindorff
@jmfindorff 2 жыл бұрын
I like how at 23:45 the tone of his voice when the car falls through the floor, makes it seem like he didn't expect it and was genuinely startled
@btr9160
@btr9160 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I got the original trilogy of this, when it was on sale back in February 2021.
@SolidSnake240
@SolidSnake240 2 жыл бұрын
Same lol. I bought the og trilogy literally a week before they announced the "definitive edition" and took them off the psn store.
@dmer-zy3rb
@dmer-zy3rb 2 жыл бұрын
any version you can buy online now is also crippled compared to the original product though.
@thiekus
@thiekus 2 жыл бұрын
Got it for PC at last year steam winter sale for cheap, also with re3/reVC project which run better on modern PC before taken down. For original GTA SA steam edition, sure it bit sucks too, but there's version downgrader to v1.0 (Hot Coffee friendly) along with Silent Patch makes it much more playable than this defective edition.
@MysteryMii
@MysteryMii 2 жыл бұрын
My brother still has the original version of San Andreas on PC cause Rockstar was giving it away to people that downloaded/upgraded to the Rockstar Games Launcher when it originally launched back in 2019.
@SolidSnake240
@SolidSnake240 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmer-zy3rb this is also true
@BigEOT3
@BigEOT3 2 жыл бұрын
*Subsidiary of It Takes Two to copyright anything that has the term “Take Two in it” Corporation. “Waits an eternity for DOA6 Wha Happun”
@SonicHedgehog1991
@SonicHedgehog1991 Жыл бұрын
19:21 I love how even CJ is shocked.
@akshaytrayner1960
@akshaytrayner1960 2 жыл бұрын
Great video I love the skits that go along with it
@michaelbandada9887
@michaelbandada9887 2 жыл бұрын
GTA: The Definitive Edition is a “remastered” masterpiece…only to be shot down like Ricardo Diaz’s VCR player with Diaz’s favorite El Burro movie
@Ealsante
@Ealsante 2 жыл бұрын
"John?" "They're all bad." "Thank you." I lol'd
@Gamester522
@Gamester522 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video from the skelly himself. Also I noticed your mention of the Hot Coffee mini-game in the game's files at launch was cut from the video.
@ShiroColdkeyesTheHedgehog
@ShiroColdkeyesTheHedgehog 8 ай бұрын
They removed the Original Games of GTA games from Steam and others I am NOT playing the remastered editions of these three; I luckily was able to get a copy of the first gta games from g2a the non remastered versions
@M9_Prime
@M9_Prime 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest I knew things weren’t right when there was no early reviews and no indication of anyone having early codes. I was so hyped for this but the closer we got to launch, the more I worried… and here we are… at What Happun?
@EZOnTheEyes
@EZOnTheEyes 2 жыл бұрын
Something that bugs me is there are Mobile developers that handle remasters AMAZINGLY. Look at Feral Interactive and their remasters for example, they ported Rome: Total War to mobile a couple years back and released a Rome: Remastered earlier this year for it's 20th anniversary. Similar situation, different results.
@rubz1390
@rubz1390 2 жыл бұрын
Dunno Rome Remastered had its problems based on videos and discussion thatI have seen from the total war community.
@EZOnTheEyes
@EZOnTheEyes 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubz1390 Rome Remastered's problems stemmed from the source code they were basing it on. Atleast they didn't introduce major bugs, like GSG did with this. And they actively fixed bugs brought to their attention. (Also They gave a 50% coupon to Original Rome owners, so their remaster of a 20y/o game only cost $15, as opposed to Rockstar's $60)
@GenerationZ313
@GenerationZ313 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget Christian whiteheads mobile version of Sonic CD made its way to console and PC as it's considered the best version of that game
@Fazer_600
@Fazer_600 9 ай бұрын
And they still haven't brought the OG versions back to Steam, as if anyone wants to use their joke of a launcher. What a worthless company R* is.
@king_noobie0
@king_noobie0 9 ай бұрын
Im not using their launcher 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️
@princesshannah7
@princesshannah7 5 ай бұрын
Hold up...am I imagining things or was the Hot Coffee reference at 18:39 added recently because I remember the first few times I watched this video it jumped right from "to developer notes...remember the decrepit gargoyle that was Jack Thompson?"
@MattMcMuscles
@MattMcMuscles 5 ай бұрын
Video was demonetized due to that clip. Had to remove it.
@princesshannah7
@princesshannah7 5 ай бұрын
@@MattMcMuscles Ahhhh okay yeah that'll do it, thanks for the clarification!
@tntalchemist
@tntalchemist 2 жыл бұрын
What I love most about this video is that you released it exactly a month after the game was released God, literally every second of this video is pure, unadulterated chaos. It really showcases just how badly Rockstar fucked this up
@tntalchemist
@tntalchemist Жыл бұрын
@@zherofhicksgiven3613 the worst part about this isn't that the "definitive edition" released in such a piss poor state (and probably still is in such a state) or that Rockstar delisted the original games, it's the aftermath of it all. With the originals digitally delisted and the "remasters" the inferior versions, any physical copies you can find will be marked up to outrageously impossible prices
@officernealy
@officernealy 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a theory going around that Dan Houser wrote Red Dead Redemption II in a way that if you look at it from a meta POV, it’s actually about the death of Rockstar Games. After seeing this pathetic excuse of a launch and learning that Take-Two’s CEO is named Strauss, the same name as the money hungry loan shark in Dutch’s gang, I’m inclined to believe it.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit far-fetched, but I wouldn't be shocked if Dan Houser had a grudge while making the game. Allthough the CEO's name is a hell of a coincidence if it wasn't intentional. Hmm...
@smokey3504
@smokey3504 2 жыл бұрын
Source for where you heard about this? It sounds interesting and I'd love to hear more
@officernealy
@officernealy 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokey3504 This is where I first heard it from: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oKeqmt2duLTHnnU.html
@smokey3504
@smokey3504 2 жыл бұрын
@@officernealy Thanks alot
@kejiri3593
@kejiri3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@leithaziz2716 May explain why he left. Talented guy nonetheless
@Gantoise89
@Gantoise89 2 жыл бұрын
21:33 the bike fail fits perfectly to his sentence lol
@TheIrishGamerGuy
@TheIrishGamerGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Fact is Rockstar used Grove Street Studio like a sweat shop to port these and that ain't right. I feel sorry for the less than 2 dozen employees, the stress they must've been under and still are now to fix the mess despite Rockstar failing to support them appropriately, both financially and in terms of backup manpower which should have been allocated to the project.
@royaldayz18
@royaldayz18 2 жыл бұрын
Y'know, in retrospect, I'm shocked there wasn't a Wha Happun on Sonic Colors Ultimate when that launched (both for new game buzz and LE SONIC BAD views). But now I also kinda see that that remaster had a pretty similar story (giving the task to a smaller studio, having engine troubles and the publisher rushing the game out to have a release out this year)
@Yodagamer1
@Yodagamer1 2 жыл бұрын
I always knew this was gonna be a problem. They rebranded the former war drum studios right as they announced the game and I knew something was up right away. They did a terrible remaster of san andreas on consoles before so I saw this coming.
@ssxakira1097
@ssxakira1097 Жыл бұрын
19:15 Cue the bug montage!!! That was amazing especially the Oh Fuck when clipping through the world
@eternalmemoire4137
@eternalmemoire4137 2 жыл бұрын
21:45 From that statement alone has pulled triggered Matt's QA experience, though it had me laughing seeing how Matt has to make a quick comment in response to that statement, it helped to assure that the QA department wasn't being lazy, especially when Matt has experience in QA.
@SAPProd
@SAPProd 2 жыл бұрын
Three recent remastered ports that one hopes would show how appreciative Rockstar is about their fans…though I suppose they do.
@skorie6180
@skorie6180 2 жыл бұрын
When you manage to create a more hated trilogy remaster than Mario 3D All Stars, you know you've utterly fucked up
@TonyJenn
@TonyJenn 2 жыл бұрын
Underwhelming as 3d Allstars is, Its no where near as hated as you think.
@skorie6180
@skorie6180 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyJenn it could be because I'm mainly a Nintendo fan that I saw a lot more of the hate for it, I think the games themselves are good but the limited release was awful
@thecardusguy5610
@thecardusguy5610 2 жыл бұрын
The most despicable thing about Mario 3D All-Stars was the limited release imo. It’s a helluva lot more functional than some other outright broken remasters/ports that are still being sold officially (Jak trilogy on Vita, anyone? The handheld that could run MGS3 at a stable 30 and DOA5 at a perfect 60 could barely keep up with three PS2 platformers?) Not defending Nintendo, their decision was scummy as hell, but remastering a game well seems to be a forgotten art or some shit among game companies.
@akaimizu1
@akaimizu1 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it was the limited release that actually got people talking; but as functional as it was, and still were seen as decent ports if not particularly shiny like a true remaster would be, that’s about it. Though considering how available the trilogy is, physically, not many are talking much about it negatively these days, just in memory of how the announcement was taken. The only thing required to get anywhere close to this level of hate is to make any remaster that is worse than the originals. But examples like GTA Trilogy and Warcraft 3, went the extra mile and basically tried to destroy any chance of playing the originals on machines they already ran on. And in Warcraft 3’s case, were completely successful at doing it.
@treefingers1183
@treefingers1183 2 жыл бұрын
7:15 that shot of a plane drifting through the air, suddenly, violently interrupted by Big Smoke's stupid dopey smile made me burst out laughing.
@dementedcheesepuff99
@dementedcheesepuff99 2 жыл бұрын
8:20 fucks me up a bit because I’ve seen these exact documents in person. Take two had the high quality model sheets and concept art for GTA III on display in Prague back in 2018… the hell happened to all that over the course of three years???
@silverneon4675
@silverneon4675 2 жыл бұрын
Count Dooku: “I’ve been looking forward to this.”
@emmaf5705
@emmaf5705 2 жыл бұрын
Even though the results weren't great, I think it's really interesting to use machine learning to upscale a game the way they did. I wonder if, given more resources and perhaps a smaller scale, that could be successful to a degree.
@101Mant
@101Mant 2 жыл бұрын
Other games have done it, modders have done it for some games. Textures, meshes, videos all successfully upscaled. Difference is they had the time and resources to have a human check the output and probably a lot less to check than 3 openwork games.
@soft-and-wet9788
@soft-and-wet9788 2 жыл бұрын
but sometimes the AI do not understand the art direction so sometimes it makes the textures too different from the original style
@steveweast475
@steveweast475 2 жыл бұрын
Modders have already used upscale to make textures that are infinite times better than the ones in DE
@markjacobs1086
@markjacobs1086 2 жыл бұрын
It has proven to be quite a powerful tool yes. Modders have used it with great success, however you *HAVE* to do manual touch-ups or even combine different parts of textures from different algorithms to make it happen. Just dropping it in, crossing your fingers & shipping it to people is a recipe for disaster.
@JohnSmith-ef2rn
@JohnSmith-ef2rn Жыл бұрын
Oh it can work. The ME1 remake used AI to do most of the upscaling of old textures, and for the most part, it worked well.
@arturoreyes2119
@arturoreyes2119 4 ай бұрын
Rockstar leaving Hot Topic in reminds me of something Yahtzee Croshaw once said: "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything (tee hee hee)"
@Griever49
@Griever49 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about it, I think I have an idea as to why they did the remasters all together instead of separately like you suggested. And it is licensing rights. The music specifically, they probably needed to pay rights for every game, and it may have been cheaper to do that considering it a single big game instead of doing contracts for each one separately
@emilyg2507
@emilyg2507 2 жыл бұрын
The devil works hard, but Matt McMuscles works harder! Man, this was fast! Hell yeah!
@soulsparx
@soulsparx 2 жыл бұрын
wha happun is such a good show bc most shows like it are basically pure negativity but like. i genuinely feel like matt has a passion for games as an art so even when hes being relentlessly negative theres a feeling of love there, genuine interest that makes these videos so cool as he digs real deep into the history of wild dev stories
@JohnDiGrizUkraine
@JohnDiGrizUkraine 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same. It's sometimes really infuriating watching other videos after watching wha happun because of, often, extremely misplaced blame
@iwakeupandboomimarat
@iwakeupandboomimarat 2 жыл бұрын
true! it definitely avoids the pitfalls of people that just shit on games 24/7 and basically try to be avgn clones
@dudewelcome
@dudewelcome 29 күн бұрын
Ayyyye was not expecting to hear No More Heroes music in this, but that was an excellent surprise! Also great video all-around
@combatking0
@combatking0 2 жыл бұрын
If Take 2 wants me to play the Defective edition, they'll have to pry my PS2 discs from my cold, dead fingers first.
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