I like continental ringing style the most

@@vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440 ive just done a continental ring vid on my channel

@@kyletheringer which one is it

@@vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9eEddZ718XWiH0.html

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I guess it's a case of the physics of the swing of the clapper vs the swing time of the bell, together with techinique of the ringer to slightly check the bell at the start of ringing up to ensure the bell goes up right. Either can cause bells to go up wrong. The old wrought iron clappers at Grantham required two ringers on the 11th (9th as it was) and three on the 12th (10th as it was) to get them up right, the newer nylon and wooden shafted clappers just need one.

@@DavidBraunton well you're certainly right about checking the bell I suppose if you were a Devon call changing ringer where they have about 4 on the tenor you would probably let Liverpool tenor to go up right. I think perhaps 4 would struggle on that bemoth of a bell

@@DavidBraunton the 11 went up wrong

@@DavidBrauntonDo you have churches in the UK where its normal to Ring the Bells in european Style?

@@kirchenglockentv it's not that common, I believe it tends to be Catholic churches, and where the bells are rung by motors, rather than humans. The Catholic Cathedral in Liverpool does.

No it's still the normal English bell set up but thay have not been rung up fully.

Happy New Year, unlikely on the wooden clappers at present. The other hammer will be the clock hammer

@@DavidBraunton What bells have the hammers?

@@JesusTilapia 6, 7, 8, 11 & 12

Do they use Westminster chimes

The bell swinging across has nylon shafted clapper, no counterweight, the bell ahead has a wooden shafted clapper. The reason the first bell to ring is 'going up right' is I had my full body weight to check it at the start, the second bell is being swung one handed and without being able to check it at the start.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLGalNOEtbC8Zmw.html in this video both bells are up right, hopefully you can see neither clapper is counter balanced.

@@DavidBraunton Interesting! Thank you very much for the details.

Yes you are right

St Wulfram's Church Grantham. www.stwulframs.org.uk/

The second bell will go up 'right' of with flying clapper, but it requires a significant amount of checking when it is started to be swung. At this time I was ringing on my own (due to covid) and couldn't get enough force to check the bell/clapper, as I was also ringing the larger bell and keeping that swinging.

They are ringing church here in the Europe uk 🇬🇧

Normally you wouldn't ring both bells single handedly, you can then use your full body weight to get the clapper to strike the upper side of the bell.

@@DavidBraunton Hmm makes sense to me 🤷🏽‍♂️💁🏽‍♂️

​@orionharmon6017 the clapper that isn't swinging fully, just means the bell wasn't pulled down hard enough at the start causing it to not do what it is meant to

@@kaidenmccreath4269 Right!

@orionharmon6017 do you get it now? If not I can try and explain better

Sort of. The other bell being rung is the 11th, and the clapper isn't going to the top of the bell like it should as it was "got up wrong", which is where the ringer didn't pull down backstroke quickly so it chimes properly. This issue effects big bells, and is fixed by knocking the clapper over to the thet side of the bell whilst up so it rests kn the correct side

Morning Nicole

​@@DavidBraunton Oh I changed my name to Libra

But the way the ropes fall is the other way around in the ringing chamber below.

Aok

St Wulframs, Grantham, Lincolnshire, UK

In order to get the bells with flying clappers (hitting the upper edge), rather than the bell hitting the clapper, you need to apply force to check the bell and hence get the clapper hitting the upper edge. At the time of the video, only one person was allowed ringing, so I had to ring both bells on my own; I'm not strong enough to check the second bell with only one hand and also whilst still swinging the first bell with my other hand this takes away how much force I could apply on my own.

So both have flying clappers but since you had to ring both at the same time you couldn’t swing the bell hard enough so the clapper would fly

@@KaileenO817 yeah, individually I can, but in combination, unlikely

Yeah you got it