Greatsword LOSES Top DPS Spot! Weapon DPS Ranking Tier List For New World Fellowship & Fire Update!

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Up until this patch, the Greatsword was the best PvE DPS weapon in the game. However, with the New World Fellowship and Fire update, the Greatsword received significant nerfs to its damage output, resulting in it losing the top spot. Likewise, the Hatchet saw a very significant damage decrease. Instead, other weapons, sometimes with unexpected builds are able to rise to the top. Some notable examples are the Spear, Sword & Shield and especially the Rapier. But even in the mage department, especially the Ice Gauntlet can absolutely hold its own. In this Weapon Tierlist we compare all weapons purely based on DPS.
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00:00 - How was real DPS tested?
01:22 - Weapon & Armor Perks
02:51 - Angry Earth DPS (with weapon builds) - D Tier
03:52 - Angry Earth DPS - B Tier
05:16 - Angry Earth DPS - A Tier
07:56 - Angry Earth DPS - S Tier
10:49 - Ancient
11:26 - Corrupted
11:57 - Lost
12:32 - Human
13:35 - Beast
14:09 - Secondary weapons (Ice Pylon!)
15:05 - DON'T just choose your weapon by DPS alone!
16:49 - Attribute points
17:21 - On the topic of PvP and DPS
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@Qroxta Жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Thanks for all the testing done and for that disclaimer at the end. A video (-series?) about PvE Dungeon Compositions would be cool, taking into account tank-styles, rend/weaken/CC, trash-grouping strategies, etc.

@harrynazarian3184 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos, Duke. Absolutely brilliant. Bravo! I think another great video to make would be the proper DPS rotation for SnS, Rapier, Spear (LA), and WH (LA). I don't DPS much in dungeons, aside from healing or tanking. I have DPS ward sets, but I would like to know what I am doing as DPS to maximize my effectiveness. Cheers!

@jeffkos342 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm surprised to see Firestaff so far down on the list though 😢

@Han_AK Жыл бұрын

Great Video with alot of Data, eventhough i play healer in PvE i still enjoy to watch info videos and tell my friends about it and the changes, keep uploading amazing New World Content with such information other players might not even know about :D

@APrismaticFox Жыл бұрын

Honestly the only thing that pushed Rapier up was the changes to Flurry, give it the ability to stack up Bleed too. This allows the Rapier to Have an exceptionally quick and strong burst combo, that combined with passives and other perks, can be very insane in the right hands. The Bleed Rapier has pretty much always been this way. The additional of another bleed source just amped its potential up quite a bit by increasing the speed at which you cna get that burst of damage out. I know previously you had to do this whole fancy rotation to get to that fairly quickly, with or without additional CDR perks. Now it's been simplfired to one basic rotation really.

@FusionThunder Жыл бұрын

Damn such a great test! Some really big brain calculations as well

@daojing7651 Жыл бұрын

Amazing! Thank you! Hope we get an ingame dps meter soon.

@drho0n588 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff and good presentation. Very interesting to see. As a hatchet user from launch I am a bit sad! A video rating group composition from S+ to D would be good. The best is always interesting but figuring out builds for maximum utility I think would be useful for a lot of players. I've been pugging a bunch of standard forge runs as DPS or tank and there is a very wide range of ability and gearsets out there. There is not much of a difference for individual players in their gearsets if everyone is working together. What is the maximum utility DPS build? (Probs spear based, plus GA or GS for CC effects or even hatchet if healing suspect)

@philwaugh9095 Жыл бұрын

Started playing with the spear on my fresh start toon a few days ago. I thought it felt like higher dps than I was expecting. Good to know it wasn't all in my head!

@heartless_gamer Жыл бұрын

Spear has always been good to be honest. It was my main PvE weapon long before this update.

@rikmik3046 Жыл бұрын

I gotta start testing weapons out again. This changed my the way of seeing things.

@numenorean6408 Жыл бұрын

As a rapier main since closed beta, this video does put a smile on my face.

@justinfcase Жыл бұрын

Great video as always mate! I am glad I saved all of my rapiers the past two years!! I can now start planning out my PVE builds this spring!!

@ivanfletcher4671 Жыл бұрын

thanks for the dps update, much appreciated. I ben diggin my spears!

@chaosparticles Жыл бұрын

Excellent information, thank you!

@jamescrook9600 Жыл бұрын

Man this is probably one of the best videos I've seen on dps ever so far. I will definitely try some new builds now especially rapier.

@Nzchimeran Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. So for solo farming what would you suggest? Rapier+Spear light armour?

@OneFiveYankee Жыл бұрын

Dude you are by far the best NW KZfaqr I’ve ever come across. I’ve never had someone earn a sub so fast, thanks for the info!

@daikennett Жыл бұрын

Great indepth video here!

@rehanakhtar4743 Жыл бұрын

Noice can't wait for Rapier vid.

@zzzJOEB Жыл бұрын

Everyone also remember you have to take the mutation into consideration. The rapier is terrible when its void. Because of the silences. It completely stops all your major DPS

@muttface83 Жыл бұрын

and also any mana based build feels brutal on mage hunter :(

@johnlinks Жыл бұрын

As always, great content. Thanks for doing this

@hozebeast1 Жыл бұрын

You nailed it when said you can’t do DPS when you’re on the floor

@amadukane597 Жыл бұрын

Nice vid 👍 Atm pve playing gs + rapier support for bosses Just open with tondo>flurry> flourish finisher and stak tondo again , than use gs onslaught. 50 int enough for bleed. The difference too low so im doin now 130 str 150 dex 50 innt Surprisingly 50 int is + 10,% crit dmg so ... For me that works for the bosses Using rapier with bleed perk. Gs sonic

@fataltell1288 Жыл бұрын

Been looking at fs dps a bit and was curious if you guys had 50 dex for the passivd crit chance and a keen awareness ring on as well. As far as I can tell, if you so then vicious is BiS but if not then keen is slight better. I was also curius if you guys tried a pillar and fireball only rotation with heavy attacks

@pwn1army Жыл бұрын

@dukesloth can you guys test if the fleche perk with 15% more crit dmg is working? I feels its not, there is no buff nor something after you use it.

@strymongr Жыл бұрын

Can you give us the detailed attribute points for each weapon build and are your measurements with light armor?

@MrPlumloko Жыл бұрын

I started playing a week ago started as fire staff and blunderbuss and it rocks!

@jahloveinfla Жыл бұрын

since only one runeglass dot can be ticking on a mob at a time wouldn't it be better for most classes to go with Sight or Punishing instead of an elemental runeglass? that way you get the flat 5-8% dmg increase without having to worry about losing your dot dps

@SuacoRV Жыл бұрын

The fire staff incinerate build is with fireball, pillar and obv incinerate? And do you spam heavy attacks for the reduction or just light attack on single target?

@dakh2333 Жыл бұрын

Now we’re just need some build guides for these weapons!

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

On it! Will take a while though

@anthonyminson Жыл бұрын

Have you made the video about setups for PVP yet? I play LS VG and am wondering it if would be worth it to run 500 focus but I love void blade and have a VG with attunement, enchanted and keen, with all void runeglasses.

@hydrothiefmusic5833 Жыл бұрын

Now I'm so Conflicted if I want to keep my greatsword and great axe build or switch to a spear after this info and watching the game play it makes it looks fun

@JamesplontNL Жыл бұрын

Well what would pvp look like :D Maybe a good next video which weapon pairings give you the biggest burst ?

@npgchef Жыл бұрын

Great vid Mr Duke! Chef here!

@n0x699 10 ай бұрын

Great vid! where can I find all these builds?

@strobic8508 Жыл бұрын

saw a lot of people say firestaff was op guess they only meant in PVP. really helpful video ty duke 🙏

@fooojin Жыл бұрын

It never was, and still ain't in PvP. Ppl just act like toddlers every time someone else gets it a little better.

@strobic8508 Жыл бұрын

@@fooojin I see, cuz when I used fire staff it was kinda underwhelming

@chalen1466 Жыл бұрын

its awful in pve and pvp. the ones who cry are the op weapon abusers who want to stay on top

@ArjKm Жыл бұрын

only a very few skilled mages can dominate with fs. Its a mid tier weapon in pvp in most hands. I know because I play it form 1 year and m average.

@dangeloenglish4284 Жыл бұрын

So I mainly use greatsword and hea y attacks. But I'll always swap to bot for Explo, Rapid, and Posion arrow combo and go right back to great sword instead of purely heavy attacks g with the great sword. I'd love to k ow how well that rotation does over other builds.

@jackmattciz Жыл бұрын

I may have missed it, but do you have a link to the excel file with all the data points? Thx.

@jeremyduncan8357 Жыл бұрын

Nice video but one small correction, you said the bleed rapier doesn't have type advantage but the abilities on the blood side are in fact slash.

@denkiee2336 Жыл бұрын

In not playing expeditions so much but what I notice you can’t see dmg done like in arena ? A bit strange I can think, or maybe it’s visible after don’t t know I only play expeditions when I have to for story quest

@tineedancr1063 Жыл бұрын

Blaming you when they nerf the rapier. Kekw

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

Honestly, with how much better it is, I think that would only be fair. I just hope they find a way to nerf bleed builds for pve without affecting pvp.

@NeonLine Жыл бұрын

@@DukeSloth they just need to nerf Rapier bleeds

@Billman8686 Жыл бұрын

If only one person can run it why would you nerf it? I get it's great! But just for one.

@zzzJOEB Жыл бұрын

Amazing video

@John_Doe1980 Жыл бұрын

does vicious count twice if its on sword and shield like Bane does ?

@Chuqueleris Жыл бұрын

hey duke, what's is a good build for bow pve? can't find :c

@muttface83 Жыл бұрын

Duke, is there a link to that spreadsheet anywhere?

@GaToLP Жыл бұрын

Weapon Perks in Ice Gauntlet as Secondary weapon? Bane/Vicious and?

@kingmuffin5168 Жыл бұрын

So based off these numbers would you be able to get away with ice gauntlet main and void gauntlet in expeditions cause it seems ice is putting out numbers

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

Yeah, definitely. You would be lacking a bit on the aoe side though since much of IG is single target.

@mikeswierstra1377 Жыл бұрын

@DukeSloth Maybe i'm a bit crazy but do 7:35 (Sword & Shield) and 8:03 (Spear Light Attack) work well / go well together? if not what would you combine them with? i think these 2 are my absolute favorites :) and i can't decide between ice gauntlet, hatchet, war hammer or bow to finish my top 3 can u or anyone who reads this shine some light on it please? =D

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

Currently, there's not all too much benefit in it, but next patch that's definitely an option! Will make a video about it soonish!

@travy9148 Жыл бұрын

Nice video! Can someone explain to me what armors are good for endgame 625 worthy gear? There are so many options and it’s very confusing which are the best to invest in. Like I love the way voidbent looks but I don’t know if it’s worth making 625. Any help would be great! Thanks.

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

Videos about that coming in the next days!

@wingspride4066 Жыл бұрын

You might be right still i believe greatsword and spear are nice combo to have for any dungeon but GS is still my preference, because it gives u nice debuffs including DOT(bleed) and 50con builds are good to run idd, I personally can't think that rapier is good enough to deal with the dungeon, it might be good for the boss but beside that on the packs of mobs, especially if u have decent grp where u lure 5-6 + mobs at once i'd never see it as a "top dps" GS would out perform it highly.. also u can use gs to root, group mobs etc while rapier is just selfish weapon also if we talk about "DPS" rapier would require consistant dmg to keep up it's "DPS" so it's 3 hits equal 1 hit of GS and in high keys if u run with 5 con it's really hard to maintain consistency p.s. this is personal opinion not an argument of any sort.

@NeonLine Жыл бұрын

yeah greatsword is op

@tsumm9951 Жыл бұрын

what if u used gs and rapier would that be good???

@bluefire9729 Жыл бұрын

hi u could argue that Rapier FnF has an advantage on the dummy, cuz it has a long time less then 50% HP with FnF perk on gear and i dont really like that Hatchet was tested with Keenly Emp as a 3rd perk xD really wasted perk on Hatchet. But nice video still ty

@ferchi4567 Жыл бұрын

I woulf be interested in the dps of wind chill with the perk on weapon or armor. It actually does pretty high dps if you hit with the last 2meters. I would guess it deals higher dps than ice stormy or spike (in a realistic scenario where you dont perfectly hit the spike each time). Also is there some place to look up the combo used during these tests? I am rather certain that eg war hammer has highest dps if you mix heavy and light attacks rather than just using one or the other.

@violetziegler Жыл бұрын

i think it would be nice to see some 2 weapon rotations like SnS or Hammer with Blunderbuss

@ferchi4567 Жыл бұрын

@@violetziegler True. Something like Blunderbuss + Fire Staff would be pretty nice to see as well as they are both a bit lackluster inbetween combos but if you use both together they can fill each others dps lows.

@andyloofficial Жыл бұрын

Where's the link for build?

@jayallen7368 Жыл бұрын

what is the spear tree?

@Akanat0r Жыл бұрын

what flabbergasts me is the fact active weapon perks dont stay on you (fortify, empower, etc) when you switch to another weapon....if only...

@dustincampbell1992 Жыл бұрын

To implement a dmg stat at the end of an expedition would be the best thing ever. To just see improvements

@Google_Censored_Commenter Жыл бұрын

I'm a bit sad the FnF tested was with tondo instead of evade, which I am almost certain would be more dps, not only because of the animation cancels, but also because of the busted weapon perk.

@DreadfulNW Жыл бұрын

This 100%. Rapier is mid tier these days in pvp, but in pve, with omni evade on weapon, rapier still owns, no tondo required lol

@kaleb5926 Жыл бұрын

@@DreadfulNW you dont even notice tondo use as its canceled by evade. Ez bleed on clumps

@scientio3695 Жыл бұрын

I might be an idiot, but I don't see the builds that you said would be in the description

@pjp7586 Жыл бұрын

Did I just miss this? How were the different bane percentages for ranged vs melee accounted for?

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I understand they question. They were accounted for for each individual weapon.

@pjp7586 Жыл бұрын

I was just confused that you didn't list them as perks on the weapons when you showed the full list. Glad to hear bane was used on each weapon for the testing and that the new differences between ranged and melee were accounted for.

@ooolllooo54 10 ай бұрын

Hello What is fnf rapier ? And evade rapier ?

@FinalSalute Жыл бұрын

As a returning player this video is perfect, thank you Would you consider doing a pvp version of this? Looking foward to the Rapier build

@levijonbriones3634 Жыл бұрын

So what would be advantage of fnf over evade for pve?

@zergnub7426 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. Was very interesting. ASs a brand new player, could you point me in the right direction for a solid pvp build, or someone who knows what they're talking about? There are a million guides, but it's hard as a new player to figure out a trusted source. Thanks again.

@LiquadSzarek Жыл бұрын

Woudl it be safe to assume that my STR full heavy gear has become redundant?

@ydab8944 Жыл бұрын

Something wrong in this no? Stab from SNS is thrust which deals more damage to corrupted. How is the corrupted and ancient dps the same? Isn't the combo stab for 30% empower into light chain till empower gone into repeat?

@tylerschilling2926 Жыл бұрын

What about the musket?

@darkvs3818 Жыл бұрын

It breaks my heart, i love playing musket and he s not even considered here 😭

@wheem8542 Жыл бұрын

I don't see how the Ice Gauntlet is ranking as high as it is, especially against enemies that don't take extra Frost damage. Are the numbers assuming "perfect" Ice Spike aiming/triggering so that the target is eating all 4 hits 100% of the time? If so, I think that's far more unrealistic than any assumptions about other weapons. If not, I'm extremely interested in how the build actually functions. Using the Ice Gauntlet as a competitive primary DPS weapon is really interesting to me, but I just don't see how that's actually the case right now. It's obviously fine as a secondary, as long as you're not using the Pylon in cases where it can pull extra adds and whatnot...and don't mind losing the power of CC/debuffs available to other weapons.

@SouLEvansMKP Жыл бұрын

What about musket? Is it unusable in PvE?

@Shampoolegend Жыл бұрын

waiting for the rapier video

@AllwaysGamingg Жыл бұрын

Welp was going to return because I play fire and ice or fire and void. But ultimately seems like the fire staff is still obsolete unless running Gen lol.

@Pinscher292 9 ай бұрын

Where is the musket? I dont see it on the list

@JJo1792 Жыл бұрын

Guess I'm incinerate + bleed rapier main?

@EmperorGeiseric Жыл бұрын

From a PvE perspective the Musket really needs a full redesign.

@NeonLine Жыл бұрын

from a PvP perspective too, hitscan doesnt belong into the game

@spiritwyrmk8622 Жыл бұрын

Even that isn't enough. 😂 Honestly the trapper tree needs to go away for good. Traps are garbage. The bomb is ass and it's passives are worse. It should be a contact explosive that is thrown on click, not hold like a grenade. I personally would love to see some combos rather than just point and shoot

@ViableZeal Жыл бұрын

should just be deleted at this point, its crap in PVE, junk in PVP now. Making it good in PVP will just break it and make it an annoying sniper weapon again. Should remove it and replace it with a crossbow or something if they really feel the need for some other kind of OP ranged weapon. no HITSCAN though.

@NeonLine Жыл бұрын

@@ViableZeal its still insane in PVP arena given good aim

@MrPlumloko Жыл бұрын

@Transsana the hit box is so small that hit scan dosnt mean nothing but yeah it def needs a rework.

@saml.2075 Жыл бұрын

I play Greatsword and Sword n Shield personally its one of the most fun and effective combos. With heavy armor you can tank and put out top dps great for PvE and also PvP with a good team.

@kaleb5926 Жыл бұрын

with a good team the tank should be in light or medium at the most

@saml.2075 Жыл бұрын

@@kaleb5926 thats against it nature. But nowadays…😂

@kaleb5926 Жыл бұрын

@@saml.2075 Ya even nowadays it's fine. More cc + more weaken helps a lot

@danl1924 Жыл бұрын

@Kaleb Disagree. Light armor tank calls for super precision and other members knowing exactly what to do, doesn't it? How do you do tanking in light armor with a bunch on randos who need to be picked up?

@kaleb5926 Жыл бұрын

@@danl1924 I just said with a good team. DAWG READ THE COMMENT 😭

@lieu_ 10 ай бұрын

Did you forget about the musket?

@Larimuss 8 ай бұрын

As a noob one thing that seems confusing is the war hammer just festroys enemies like 2x more damage than many weapons. Is this still accurate?

@spiritwyrmk8622 Жыл бұрын

Well, rapier is gonna die soon. Now, I wouldn't care if it's just bleeds because I prefer evade rapier, but we all know they'll just neuter rapier as a whole. Bleed needs to be turned down a bit, but the rest needs to be untouched or slightly buffed. Passives like the 8% dmg buff to the little swipes or the dmg buff when below 40 stamina, which barely works because you're usually full

@ajschwartz3924 10 ай бұрын

Where does the Musket Land on the list? I see that's the only missing weapon

@bon3s994 Жыл бұрын

I use ga,gs in corrupted that way my ga i can group mobs and apply bleed, then use my gs to finish them off....

@qpsyche9115 Жыл бұрын

Where's the musket?

@kazen2377 Жыл бұрын

good content

@tadefps Жыл бұрын

what's FNF? thx

@nickram81 Жыл бұрын

Yeah but what about the life staff?

@johnweig4667 Жыл бұрын

Also sword and shield 10% dmg buff is a huge buff. In a own group I run as tank with buff. In a pub? Yeah no. I take full defense haha

@pwn1army Жыл бұрын

So bad that rhey didnt change their mind about dps meter. Its so important for a mmo.

@Eas_the_Planeswalker Жыл бұрын

Xr Deserves a cookie 🙂😊

@loretoo7138 Жыл бұрын

I think miss some SSS+++ weapon: musket kekw

@VerticalBaconSandWch 9 ай бұрын

where's the musket?

@Nekomegane69 7 ай бұрын

Musket it's not an option?

@DavidAppleby Жыл бұрын

Did you test Cyclone instead of Sweep on spear? Much better AOE damage and gives you stamina for another dodge and a heal.

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

In any scenario except solo PvE or immovable bosses (where jav is better), your group will probably hate you for it because knocking enemies away is the last thing you wanna do

@DavidAppleby Жыл бұрын

@@DukeSloth but you just don't take that last perk

@jond2810 Жыл бұрын

Where’s the musket tho

@alex-ul9nb Жыл бұрын

Musket?

@perfectbanana4378 Жыл бұрын

is the void gauntlet is that bad that u did not even consider it as main dps weapon? damn :D

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

Hm? It's on the list, just mostly not very high up

@perfectbanana4378 Жыл бұрын

@@DukeSloth oh im an idiot VG it is LMAO

@SmartyMcSmartsen Жыл бұрын

You are using X-R's testing sheet... His BB testing was under false conditions, he used the wrong abilities to max dps. I have already talked with him about it and he didn't do any further testings to adjust his numbers on the sheet. We only compared our own test results. BB is much higher. He used the bug with claw shot which didnt end up in higher dps than using Netshot and clip abilities into your bullet amps

@DukeSloth Жыл бұрын

I'm very curious how BB could be "much higher" based on switching out an ability that to my knowledge would only provide a very minor damage increase, but I'm also not quite understanding what attack chain you want to use. Since you seem sure that this is the case, feel free to record yourself comboing a dummy in the way that you think will result in this DPS increase until the dummy is completely out of health. Happy to check the results and add a correction if you can provide that. Ideally send me a message on discord or @ me Twitter when you're done, KZfaq comment notifications are very inconsistent!

@SmartyMcSmartsen Жыл бұрын

@@DukeSloth Yeah I will send you over the video. Things you have to run are ASB Netshot Splitting Grenades 260STR 250INT (for the passive perk) You need a Thrust Ring with Bloodletting Best perk combination is Bane Enchanted Keenly Empowered Most important part is to clip your abilities into your bullets which lets you attack way faster which then results into higher dps

@gigian1322 Жыл бұрын

@@SmartyMcSmartsen and what would you pair the BB with in this scenario ?

@danl1924 Жыл бұрын

@@SmartyMcSmartsen What combination do you run to clip your abilities to your bullets? I assume this works on PvP as well

@Judgment_Sheep Жыл бұрын

I'm going to watch a good video.

@inquisitortaki6476 Жыл бұрын

Too bad no musket corruption mention it hit hard actually.

@taa347 11 ай бұрын

It's sad that the firestaff gets nerfed because people whine in pvp and it's already middle-low dps. Good shit, good shit

@levin4124 Жыл бұрын

Okay danke you

@bellgrand Жыл бұрын

VG was shockingly good at DPS until they went ahead and nerfed its 3x5% Old Rend to 3x10% New Rend, which is basically 3 times worse since most bosses and mobs are equivalent to Light to Medium armor...