Thanks, Griffin!! Excellent tests and comparison!! You and Armando are Awesome, my brothers!! 👍🏾👍🏾

Great information

They both look great. Canons image looks more robust in my opinion. I’ve graded a lot of C70 footage and pushed it pretty hard and it held up pretty nice. But specially on that backlit scene of Jake, you can see how much more saturation the skin tones have overall. For me, that’s one of the most important things. Also, I don’t get how the FX3 can be called a cinema camera if it doesn’t even have the option to use shutter angle.. I’m sure they could fix that with firmware though. But kinda crazy

great video. watched three and like what u are doing...did u make one with exposing using waveforms and all the tool u have on c70?

Loved it! Keep up the great content man

Great in-depth video. You gave me a lot to think about.🤔💭

Ready for that C70 vs FX6 video🤩

You're doing great videos for creators! good luck with the channel!

Simple yet so helpful! Thanks man!

Hi G, bought your LUTS and they are amazing in post. But when i try to upload to the C70 at look files, they wont and give an error. Any idea why?

hey griffin brought your luts today to install on my C70. When I got to the last step to overwrite the previous CP it's say "process termination error" was wondering if you know a quick fix?

I love how unbiased you are. Always great work bro

Nice work Griffin. I'm going to have to try bringing some LUTs into camera now! ;-) I always just bring them into the monitors.

What a legend! Love this

What adapter were you using for the canon lenses on the fx3?

I’d love to see a up to date comparison between C70 and FX6 more from a usability standpoint.

I bought a C70 today based on your great videos. Keep it up!

Great video. Do you think I could colour match a C70 with a a7s iii as a B cam?

Hi Griffin thanks so much for this video. DO you have a tut on how to edit like this video in 0.24 sec? Thanks so much!

This is the video I was looking for 2 days ago ، thanks to Armando and Griffin Conway

One really important thing about catalyst browse post stabilization is your shutter speed will impact image quality a lot. Or put another way, 180 shutter is probably too slow and you need at least a 90 degree shutter or fast. Otherwise the catalyst browse stabilization will show those smearing frames where the image was blurred by movement, instead of a sharp image. It’s a very useful data point but it has limitations.

Awesome video as always!! Question, I got the c70 like 3 months ago and I’ve been using the regular shutter speed because I’m not familiar with the shutter angle. You said on this video that every time you switch from 24p to 60p the shutter angle will automatically change? Does that include the S&F 120p mode too?

I like the Canon image just a slight bit more, as to my eyes it's more organic. Having said that, I'm deep in the Sony system and think that's the way to go for commercial work. Amongst the latest couple generations of Sony mirrorless bodies (I own A1, A7Siii, A7R4, A7R3, and A73) they all have full frame sensors, same mount, same batteries, and the bodies themselves of each generation are nearly identically proportioned. That makes life 1000% easier than trying to adapt lenses, multiple type batteries and chargers, different sized bodies with different support requirements etc. For hobbyists things like this don't matter, but for my team and I shooting many location jobs per week its a game changer.

great comparison vid

How is the Image coming out of the Atomos? Is it the same quality? Better? Worse?

Hi, Griffin or anyone in comments: I'm needing to match these two cameras specifically. Can you comment on best approach for basic two camera interview? LUTS from get go vs. color card and log and match etc.. willing to sacrifice a bit on look for sake of not having a burdensome post.

Did you compare EF L lenses versus RF / STM lenses? To gain the full benefit of the STM autofocus features (like adjustable focus shift speed) you can only use STM lenses. Unfortunately, this limits you to mostly RF lenses. There's a few lenses that are STM and can be used with the speed booster though, like the 50mm F/1.8 STM EF.

Great video brotha!

What do you mean when you say, "You can still under-expose and then (pull the image back)?"

Great vid thanks Griffin

loved it! both great cameras!

Hi, great balanced video. I'm curious, though, why you would burn in a LUT rather than filming in log and adding the LUT in post? Are there certain situations where recording with a LUT would be preferable?

Thanks, Griffin! I own a C70 and absolutely LOVE this camera. I'm in the same boat with the investment in Canon glass so I'm with Canon until something really compelling moves me. I have seen some things about it being able to take a picture by assigning a custom button. I haven't fiddled with that yet. I don't have high hopes but I'd be curious what kind of still it's able to take. Thanks for the great content.

In the same place with lenses. Thanks for the test Griffin!

How is the rolling shutter in the c70 at 24fps with 45 degree shutter angle?

Awesome breakdown! What's your experience been like using EF lenses that are not fully compatible with the RF to EF adapter (like 70-200mm f/4 L IS or 24-105mm f/4 L IS)? Wondering if the AF performance is good enough to rely on for static shots with some mild subject movement.

On another note, wouldn’t the R5 be that hybrid camera if you are working for a client who would ask for a quick photo, if it doesn’t overheat of course. I see that you have/had a R5. Would be interesting to see your take on comparing the R5 to C70 😃

Great as always! Guess i‘m a Canon fanboy so i always hope they hold up well but i thought you did a great job comparing them unbiased.

Great stuff as always, Griffin! After months of debating between the FX3 and C70 for a B cam, I went with the C70. What I didn't expect was how much I love the thing. It was supposed to be a B cam to my rigged out Pocket 6K (which is what I went with after owning a RED Scarlet-X for seven years). Instead, I find myself picking it up more often than the Pocket 6K. Such a clean image, incredible DR, 4K 120p, built-in NDs, and so on... It's just a terrific little camera. I've been keeping a PolarPro CP on the front of it most of the time, and it's able to do everything I want it to do!

Great video again! Q: do your luts bake in and if yes, can i use auto iris (push)? Because it works with canons 709, but not on the log setting. Much appreciated.

Thanks for this video Griffin! I'm a sony a7s3 shooter who recently got an Alexa Mini. But been really struggling to get my skintones to match Alexa. I've been told that C70 is a great b-cam for matching Arri...and just from this video, I can already see that it would be easier to match. These canon skin tones look much nicer/more natural to my eyes. Very helpful!

Great discussion and points about both cameras. Own neither but have used the c70 a few times. Really hope canon makes something similar to the fx3 but w/out the missing exposure tools + internal nd and shutter angle. I don't understand how anyone can exclude shutter angle anymore, such a simple software update.

Awesome vid! Question, how did you get your GC luts on your c70? I tried installing your luts onto my c70 but it keeps giving me an error message in the edit picture profile section.

Awesome comparison mate !! I still prefer the image from the C70 I think but solid performance from the FX3 especially for the price and size. I would definitely pick the C70 for documentary / commercial work and the FX for personal and travel.

Thanks Griffin Great Video You are really a tall man !!

You hit the key points as always and kept it concise, loved it . The first scene with the guy in the over exposure test, which one of the two cameras did you find got the skin tones correctly? same for the red on boxers shorts. I hate having to mess around with skin tones in post trying to get them to my taste especially on low budget quick turnaround projects. I like those LUTS :) . Even though i do many brand content for youtube and social media, AF has never been a priority. Having said that there are always issues when you try to adapt lenses to another system. There have been situations where the aperture locks up etc. I also happened to watch the video on Armando's channel form his perspective. Generally i like the stuff he puts out, but for some reason he seemed super aggressive and i felt like he was really trying to sell the FX3 and more importantly trying to justify his purchase :D. Don't mean to knock the guy but its just something i felt. Looking forward to more awesome content from you.

What are your thoughts on the R5c?

Great comparison. Would be interested to know why the Sony FX6 wasn't compared to the C70 - in my mind, that would seem to be a more appropriate comparison, especially since they're priced closely to one another. But you made some really great points here. Bottom line: it's a great time to buy a camera at any price point.

This DGO sensor in the c70 and c300 is super interesting. You touched on it but I’ve found on the c300 that it exposes similar to how we used to expose when we first started shooting on our DSLR’s back in the day. Underexpose slightly and really try and protect those highlights because there’s way more room in the shadows to recover. It’s taken me a while to get used to since I’ve gotten so used to slightly over exposing over the last couple years shooting log footage with cinema cameras

Where can I find replacement top handles for the C70

Where does the C70 lies exactly within Canon's Cinema camera line? It's like a compact C300 or so?

Did the same person grade both? Also, what camera would you say for travel, personal family stuff, bringing to bars with friends, and some mini doc stuff if image and color most important

Hey Griffin! Been watching your videos for a while now and absolutely love them! I am also located in California in Sacramento, so if you ever wanted to collab let me know! Keep up the awesome vids!

great review

I watched Armando’s video as well. You two have a very different approach to reviews. You go out of your way to be as balanced as possible while Armando does nothing to hide his love for the FX. I have never used the Sony so have no real opinion. I do wish the C70 had the autofocus of the FX (from all the reviews I have seen) but fir many reasons I am team Canon and my goal is to learn how to use the camera I have in the best way possible. As you (and Armando) said… all modern cameras these days will produce great images once you know what you are doing. Thanks to both of you for these videos… while I found Armando’s video a bit biased it was still fact based(just a bit selective on the facts he emphasized ) and very useful. Armando is you read this… love you too and always look forward to your videos too 🤗

Wow the Canon C70 looks really great!! Maybe the CanonR5C will be a great hybride camera?

Amazing you can even compare the FX3 with top cinema cameras

another great video, doesn't the price of FX3 place it within the same world as the R5? The R5 in 4K HQ with the 45MP sensor, 120fps seems on paper to be the answer to the FX3 but I guess a DR test would be needed for final conclusion. Hey that comparison might be idea for next video 😉 ... Just don't mention long recordings lol!

please review the fx6 :)

Yeah I own a c70 and a7s3 which is essentially the same as an fx3 and I never use the a7s3 because the c70 does everything better. Dynamic range and processing are one of the biggest differences. Sony forces you to use heavy NR that hides the much higher noise levels but makes shadows very mushy. That also means sensitivity is hugely different. Fx6 or prores raw lets you turn off NR but then you're left with much much more noise than the c70. With the Sony you signficantly sacrifice DR as you go beyond iso640, whereas the c70 is several stops better in the shadows so you can push it a stop no problem, plus a speedbooster gives you another stop of sensitivity so you can essentially shoot at 3200ei on the c70 and still get way more DR than the a7s3 has a iso640. Sony has better AF but only with native lenses. You can get good AF with newer sigma EF lenses with their adapter but pretty much all other EF lenses are not supported in video mode. Whereas the c70 has pretty good AF even on random old EF lenses. EF lenses are key because you can own them and put them on everything worth shooting on from red to arri to Canon and Sony to some degree.

Maybe the R7C will be that FX30 for canon?

We can’t live without built-in ND. I just wish Canon would have put the C70 specs into a C100 body. For documentary situations where we have very little control the C100 was nearly flawless in terms of button layout.

Nice comparision, luts can be load in a ninja, so you dont need the feature on Camera, ninja have so many features that i love....if you use a external recorders, use the features of thuis thing...that was a side note of me...but nice video man

Woooo 🎥

Comon man, even seeing the title, I knew where this video is going for. You are Canon shooter 😁

Thanks, Griffin! Purchased .However, this LUTs is not imported into C70, and maybe I'm stupid，help me. ：）

Sure the c70 isn’t perfect but at the end of the day, for me, it’s image quality. Look at that smooth mid tone contrast. Beautiful, that sensor truly punches above its weight. Period.

Would have liked to have seen this with the FX6. We bought a C70 and R5, and am now thinking we should have bought the FX6 or FX9 as A cam and FX3 as second cam. Might take the hit and sell the Canons and Canon lenses and go Sony. Mostly because of the R5 and it's frustrating lack of video features like shutter angle, the LCD going black and menu being forced out to the atomos when using one, the inability to use an audio interface and XLRs, even monitor audio properly at all, etc.

Get the Panasonic S5 Griffin. 1. Shutter Angle 2. Anamorphic support built in 3. Waveform and Vectorscope and Luminance Spot meter 4. Dual SD Cards 5. Full frame 10 bit 4.2.2 6. Timelapse feature that makes the video in camera 7. 5.9k Pro Res Raw to Ninja and 5.9k BRAW external to Blackmagic camera 8. Great IBIS 9. Flip out screen 10. Now only $1700. The only two things I dislike is the APSC crop in 4k 60 and the no so good autofocus. Other than that, it's perfect.

I am kinda in the same boat as well. Don’t get me wrong I love my C70s and they are very good for TV production. But the Sony’s AF has always been something incredibly enticing for me. But because my company owns 20+ Canon lenses already at the end of the day, the C70 face priority and face only AF modes serves my purpose well enough so far + the built-in NDs. Would I want better? Yes. Has it failed me so far? No. So I’m just gonna keep my fingers crossed for an R5C with built in ND filters. Not holding my breath though.

The fx3 has wayyyy more customization buttons that you have to utilize. When you mentioned the FPS and shutter speed for instance, it’s all preprogrammed so you flip a switch and have a whole new look

Interesting. Am currently more invested in the Sony system these days, but those Canon colours are looking nice.

9:36 how about the R5??

Regarding your first exposure test… the FX3 is exposed lower than the C70 so it makes sense its holding highlights better. Also, you’re better off exposing a bit lower with the C70 and recovering shadows than highlights. Thats the whole benefit of the DGO sensor. Less noise, better shadow recovery.

9:31 Like the R5 or R3? Lol

Why compare the C70 with the FX3? It makes more senses to compare the C70 with the FX6. Price range, features and workflow would seem to be a better compare. Just me

They are both great but i like zhe sony image more

The C70 takes pictures!!!

I tried to convince myself the c70 picture looks better as it is much cheaper than the fx6 where i live but seeing this video the fx3 video looks quite a bit better than the soft canon.

dude there is so much information here. I am in oc too. would love to meet up and just pick your brain man!

tell the people at canon to add tracking in slow and fast mode

The c70 CAN take pics even though they are low MP. Still perfect for thumbnails.

I’m currently a Canon filmmaker as well, and I’m sticking with Canon because I’m already in the Eco-system. However I have to say its some what a disappointment as it seems Canon is just relying on loyalty for users to stay on board, and not because it is offering latest great features and built quality… This is one major point to why I haven’t upgraded to the C70, because I feel it could have been better for what is worth.

Sony FX3 !!!!

Lowkey it should be Fx6 vs C70

Pro trip: Do not change the Shutter shutter angle ….

C70 no raw... no raw no party!

C70 all day…!

FX3 for the win. Small compact, straight to the point and cheaper than C70. In the end you achieve the same result - unfortunately for C70 Is too big. the ND Filter built in C70 Is a nice touch but pretty much every one has an ND filters in a camera bags these days.

The FX3 is literally the a7sIII in a different body. So it's really not a cinema camera.

FX9/6/3 are all improvements for Sony, but their color is still pretty awful. Everyone looks just a touch sick. For example, at 2:40.

Canon cameras are so soft. After 5d mark iv they ditched mjpeg and everything becomes soft. Like worst 4k quality I ewer saw. And everyone is like well they try to ditch that digital look. Like we can't soften the image in post... It is softer than panasonic g7 with sharpness and noise reduction disabled in camera... Something is going on with how codec gets information from sensor....

C70 can take stills

it's also got that silly Sony colors lol

Caucasian skin tones on Sony cameras are just off.. greenish tinted and yellowie. Always have been, always will be. The difference in dynamic range is not worth it in my opinion.

"And now with the FX3, you can pull back the exposure, and It does look a bit different in terms of color", aka looks like typical Sony crap colors :) :)

I would appreciate feedback: I'm trying to figure out the best cinebuild for under $8k. I need 4k and would like 4K 120 capability. I’m finding that glass and accessories are more important than camera body in the long run. So that’s where I want over half of my money to go. I wish I could just start with a tokina cinema vista 25mm T1.5 prime and build from there, but at $6k (5k used) there’s no way to make it happen. Instead I’ll get some very popular photography lens (canon or sony) that I can easily resell in the future ($2k). Regardless, I think Full Frame is here and taking over, so any lens I choose needs an image circle that will work with full frame. Of course, those lenses work with S35 too. It just looks “cropped”. Great 4x5.65 filters in a solid matte box is next on the list because the image results are very good with solid filters and it transfers to future builds regardless of lens ($2k). Next up, it seems like a larger screen is ubiquitous to a good rig and it’s usually attached to at least a top-handle ($1k). At this point we are at around $5K That narrows it to the A7Siii, the R5 and I have to depend on black friday to pull the price under $8K. Thoughts?

What adapter were you using for the canon lenses on the fx3?