The Untold Truth Of Jefferson Starship

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Күн бұрын

Jefferson Airplane was one of the most important bands of the counterculture movement of the 1960s, but they continued on in various iterations long after the ‘60s ended. First, they transformed into Jefferson Starship, inspired by longtime member Paul Kantner’s sci-fi side project. Later, they shortened their name to simply Starship and their ‘80s music was a far cry from the edgy rock of the ‘60s. From the time singer Grace Slick got fired from the band to the story of the song that many consider one of the worst of all time, let’s take a look at the untold truth of the band sometimes known as Jefferson Starship.
#Truth #JeffersonStarship #Music
Bringing in Grace | 0:00
What's in a name? | 1:12
The lawsuit | 2:14
Disaster at Altamont | 3:24
Little baby god | 4:44
Airplane to Starship | 5:58
Marty Balin | 6:55
Firing Grace | 8:05
Losing a Jefferson | 9:18
We hate this city | 10:20
Airplane reunion | 11:20
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@GrungeHQ
@GrungeHQ 4 жыл бұрын
Airplane or Starship?
@darkkiss7247
@darkkiss7247 4 жыл бұрын
Airplane
@pawnhearts8785
@pawnhearts8785 4 жыл бұрын
Jane is a great song though
@ktee1403
@ktee1403 4 жыл бұрын
Airplane, but I did love the Mick n Slick AOR years.
@Filmation77
@Filmation77 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up with Starship...but it's like asking , Van Halen or Van Hagar(both were great,but both were bands of Their Time)
@D.Z.A.-kp8lf
@D.Z.A.-kp8lf 4 жыл бұрын
I like both
@marieantoinettescake9513
@marieantoinettescake9513 4 жыл бұрын
As a kid in 80's, I LOVED "We Built This City".... Still ❤️ it to this day. I don't care what anyone says about it. It's a great song.
@jespacey
@jespacey 4 жыл бұрын
😅😄😃🤣😂
@md-rf8fy
@md-rf8fy 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! We Built This City is a great song! I could listen to it all day and never get tired of it!!!! The 80s music remains the best of all decades!9
@brianpatrickofficial
@brianpatrickofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! It’s one of those 80s songs that really got me into the 80s.
@sukhastings4200
@sukhastings4200 Жыл бұрын
It gotto #1. Btw, at that time, Grace Slick became the oldest singer with a #1 hit
@controlclerk
@controlclerk Жыл бұрын
My kids love it now. They sing it every time it comes on.
@bethroesch2156
@bethroesch2156 4 жыл бұрын
Grace Slick is one of a kind ❤️ and was a pioneer. An amazing voice and performer. RIP Marty Balin 💔
@sukhastings4200
@sukhastings4200 Жыл бұрын
Paul Kanfer and Syne Toly died on the same day in 2016. Grace got the gig mostly because her first band was the opening act for Jefferson airplane
@TheDudeKicker
@TheDudeKicker Жыл бұрын
Slick was a skank
@Eazy-ERyder
@Eazy-ERyder Жыл бұрын
I still love Grace Slick. I remember growing up to "We built This City." I like that song more NOW than when it came out. She is a legend to me!
@michaelbrinks8089
@michaelbrinks8089 11 ай бұрын
Ironic how Grace Slick went from anti establishment hippie to pro establishment-BLM rules, take your jabs don't question MSM/big brother, Orange Man Bad, Biden rules. Biden starting wars & using Ukrainians as cannon fodder good, $5 gas good, $2.50, 2019 Orange Man gas prices Bad.
@MissBliss818
@MissBliss818 4 жыл бұрын
there's something about Jefferson that's just so bold, mysterious and 'ahead of its time', even though this was the 60s.
@jacobhouser7672
@jacobhouser7672 3 жыл бұрын
The profundity is timeless
@petersonlafollette3521
@petersonlafollette3521 Жыл бұрын
The 80's interpretation of their music to video were in a separate class..
@stripervince1
@stripervince1 2 жыл бұрын
My fav band of all time. All three morphs of this band were incredible. Airplane in the 60s, Jefferson starship in the 70s and starship in the 80s
@haintedhouse3052
@haintedhouse3052 3 жыл бұрын
I got Craig Chaquico's autograph and he was the nicest down to earth musician I ever met. He even signed my girlfriends copy of Dreams which is a Grace Slick album that he didn't even play on. a great guy.
@jamesgeiger4795
@jamesgeiger4795 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Marty Balin was an incredible singer.
@knuckleheadgolf6155
@knuckleheadgolf6155 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he was👍🏼
@davedzone
@davedzone 3 жыл бұрын
Miracles
@masteryoflife5133
@masteryoflife5133 26 күн бұрын
I really liked his song I Do Believe In You, it is very catchy
@christineparis5607
@christineparis5607 4 жыл бұрын
When I was growing up in Palo Alto in the 60s and 70s, the Jefferson Airplane were always playing around...I heard great things about them, but wasn't allowed to see them since they were considered "too wild". I remember my parents cool friends raving about them and going to Woodstock and the Monterey Festival. I wish I'd seen them live!!
@phlushphish793
@phlushphish793 4 жыл бұрын
Get some DVDs
@riverraisin1
@riverraisin1 4 жыл бұрын
White Rabbit is one of the greatest vocal performances in history. It's absolutely haunting to here Slick's voice isolated from the rest of the music. Which, BTW, is available for your listening pleasure here on KZfaq.
@lawrencesimmons5093
@lawrencesimmons5093 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to 'Hey Fredrick' from Volunteers - she totally knocks it out of the park. That is how to use a voice. And what a voice. Gaga, Rihanna, Beyonce? Lmao.
@sukhastings4200
@sukhastings4200 Жыл бұрын
Grace once said she wrot White Rabbit in 30 minutes.
@armyguy872008
@armyguy872008 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Carrey in “Cable Guy” did the best Grace Slick impression
@DisonantDyscord
@DisonantDyscord 4 жыл бұрын
Of course he did! Whatever your opinion of him, the man is a pretty talented actor (albeit eccentric or loopy).
@armyguy872008
@armyguy872008 4 жыл бұрын
DisonantDyscord definitely loopy....but I guess many comedic geniuses are.
@rocket4189
@rocket4189 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Carrey sucks balls.
@MegaSammy70
@MegaSammy70 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Carrey's character in that movie was downright creepy.
@DeanHaasJr
@DeanHaasJr 4 жыл бұрын
J.A. was a great Friso band. I remember, because I was there, that in '67 they had already became rock royalty, which some embraced, and some hated. There were hundreds of musicians there, all looking for a break of some kind, but most too hip for commercial music. J.A. was the standout - Slick was something else, and when I was backstage once, I melted. It might have been induced by something....there is only one real Starship album. "Blows...." - the rest, commercial pop. Slick hated "I Built This City". She later said it was a total sellout, and that began the end of her run with them. Kantner may have fired her, but she wanted out, anyway. I met Paul in the early days - he was pretty cool, but his drive for success kind of ruined an incredible band. Hot Tuna was the best thing to come out of it all after J.A.
@bloomfrieda7234
@bloomfrieda7234 2 жыл бұрын
Right a ROCK GODDESS 👠🎸🤟🎶❤️
@skydogstudio
@skydogstudio 4 жыл бұрын
My Brother was a second engineer at the music grinder recording studio in the 1980s. He was present when We Built This City was recorded. According to my Brother, the single was recorded first and once the record company heard it, they sprung for the money to record the rest of the record. I was lucky enough to get my mono copy of Surrealistic Pillow autographed by Grace Slick via my Brother taking it in to the studio... It's one of my prized posessions
@PIANOBYMAURICE
@PIANOBYMAURICE 4 жыл бұрын
I love "Freedom at Point Zero" from the early 80's. The Awakening is my favorite.
@KK-ex5zu
@KK-ex5zu 4 жыл бұрын
Jefferson Starship had great songs and albums in the 80's! It was when Kantner left with the Jefferson name and they went to Starship was when the band went down the tubes IMO.
@haintedhouse2990
@haintedhouse2990 2 жыл бұрын
i thought Jefferson Starship in the 70's was better than the 80's version.
@artemusmusic
@artemusmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, not even a mention of Micky Thomas? Dude is one of the greatest singers of all time. Jane is a stone cold banger.
@jaysoto7439
@jaysoto7439 4 жыл бұрын
Artemus totally agree!! As a musician/singer, myself, Mickey has been an immense inspiration to me. One of Rock’s great vocalists. What a shame to exclude him! Starship’s 80’s tunes might be “over produced”, but tell that to radio; there’s a reason why those tunes get massive airplay even today.
@bsquared4604
@bsquared4604 3 жыл бұрын
that is strange not to mention him.
@jamesgeiger4795
@jamesgeiger4795 3 жыл бұрын
Marty Balin was a great singer also. Sometimes I couldn't tell if it as him or Grace on a recording.
@ThePrissy11
@ThePrissy11 4 жыл бұрын
I met Grace Slick on a few occasions. She was sarcastic and a bit snarky but sober. I loved it.😊
@artprince9163
@artprince9163 4 жыл бұрын
jefferson airplane was one of the first few bands I saw. Think it was 1967 when I saw them. Jorma played through 6 Twin Reverbs. And Jack C just walked back and forth across the stage playing awesome bass lines. They were a great live band. Yes I am old. But I saw a lot of great music back in the day.
@markmcdonald5419
@markmcdonald5419 Жыл бұрын
Saw them in NY city at the Academy and StonyBrook, once in Paris, and once in Commack, and in New Paltz University twice, saw Tuna 23 times, Starship 20 times at Radio City, Jack and Jorma are my heroes...
@pawnhearts8785
@pawnhearts8785 4 жыл бұрын
Whether you like Jefferson Starship or not you have to admit Jane is a great song
@stevenfritchie7529
@stevenfritchie7529 4 жыл бұрын
I will admit no such thing. Any song by Grace Slick is 100x better than Jane.
@pawnhearts8785
@pawnhearts8785 4 жыл бұрын
@Steven Fritchie Nothing beets Slick but Jane is a hard rock classic. At lesst for me
@phlushphish793
@phlushphish793 4 жыл бұрын
@@pawnhearts8785 It's a line from the song.
@phlushphish793
@phlushphish793 4 жыл бұрын
I bought that album 'cuz of 'Find your way back.' It rocks all the way through!
@pawnhearts8785
@pawnhearts8785 4 жыл бұрын
@meangreen69Nova Thanks
@charleskatholijr.1055
@charleskatholijr.1055 4 жыл бұрын
What about Marty Balin? He sang some of the biggest hits such as Miracles!
@geoffreymerrifield5666
@geoffreymerrifield5666 3 жыл бұрын
They weren't over produced. Their 80's stuff was excellent and holds up very ell.
@MarkSmith-js2pu
@MarkSmith-js2pu 4 жыл бұрын
I was in high school, 1968 to 1972, there was a girl then that looked just liked Gracie. I chased her for a long time and never caught her. When I hear White Rabbit and Winds of Change, I think of those days. Gracie had pipes.
@ktee1403
@ktee1403 4 жыл бұрын
What an incredible life Grace Slick has lived.
@JohnSmith-kz8yo
@JohnSmith-kz8yo 4 жыл бұрын
And can you believe that she's never acted in a movie? She was asked to play the Acid Queen in Tommy but turned it down...
@dampergoldenrod4156
@dampergoldenrod4156 4 жыл бұрын
She didn't manage her career right when someone likes cher is still touring and Grace isn't there something wrong.. Cher is 4th rate compared to Grace Slick. Cher is first rate compared to McDonnas corporate music
@danielan3936
@danielan3936 4 жыл бұрын
Davin Gladwell well grace did say any rock n roll singer over 50 look stupid and should retire which is what she did
@KrashyKharma
@KrashyKharma 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite tidbit about her life is that time she was bff's with Nixon's daughter and came super close to dosing his coffee
@ktee1403
@ktee1403 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-kz8yo she also turned down a role in the 1970 film Little Fauss And Big Halsey.
@sukhastings4200
@sukhastings4200 Жыл бұрын
Grace Slick said at the time she quit Starship( late80s) that being in a rock band after 50 was stupid. She was 10yrs older than any of her bandmates then.
@themusiccitymartian2338
@themusiccitymartian2338 4 жыл бұрын
All 3 but mostly early 80's Jefferson Starship, Freedom at Point Zero, Modern Times, Winds of Change and Nuclear Furniture are my favorite albums.
@dcd915
@dcd915 4 жыл бұрын
This arrogant guy has done a rough story at best.. he obviously never listened to the first 6 albums over the Jefferson Starship... nor acknowledges the gifts of Paul Kantner Craig Chaquico and Pete Sears...
@psychosneighbor1509
@psychosneighbor1509 4 жыл бұрын
This was actually just a test to see how many ads could be squeezed into a 12 minute video.
@musicexpert2
@musicexpert2 4 жыл бұрын
@@psychosneighbor1509 Really! Soo annoying!
@holly70hk
@holly70hk 4 жыл бұрын
You nailed it hun! 👍
@orangeandblackattack
@orangeandblackattack 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@SuperBoomshack
@SuperBoomshack 4 жыл бұрын
Cozy Powell?
@runninrebel1520
@runninrebel1520 4 жыл бұрын
Winds of Change, Be My Lady, Miracles, Jane, and We built This City are my favorites.
@bendrake1322
@bendrake1322 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot find your way back!
@Sharsung
@Sharsung 3 жыл бұрын
Love too Good
@nakolssonza328
@nakolssonza328 3 жыл бұрын
My five year old son loves to sing "Sara"
@ruready2rock856
@ruready2rock856 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you mention Mickey Thomas? One of the best rock singers there ever was. He's one of the best things that ever happened to that band and he's still going strong keeping it alive.
@blaumausfrau
@blaumausfrau 3 жыл бұрын
Mickey Thomas was probably the worst singer that ever lived I don’t know who wrote this but you’ve got diarrhea in your ears that guy was horrible
@georgebarry8640
@georgebarry8640 3 жыл бұрын
Mickey is a great singer. Elvin knew it and millions of units sold support the notion. If Pete can't dig it...well thats ok..but alot of people like Mickey's voice.
@bsquared4604
@bsquared4604 3 жыл бұрын
@@blaumausfrau bullshit.
@destinyandjacegramm7888
@destinyandjacegramm7888 3 жыл бұрын
wrong.
@lisadavie5819
@lisadavie5819 3 жыл бұрын
I love Mickey Thomas's voice. x
@skippy1138
@skippy1138 3 жыл бұрын
Your statement "They've never recorded any songs about aviation" is incorrect- they recorded the song "Planes" in 1989- (yes I know way after the band name was decided but still....)
@simplechronology2605
@simplechronology2605 4 жыл бұрын
Kantner didn't want to call his new 1974 band Jefferson Starship. RCA records forced him to because his solo albums weren't selling, and they wanted the commercial power of the name.
@robertdyerofficial
@robertdyerofficial 4 жыл бұрын
I received more commercials than facts about this great band. How many ads can play in one video?
@48nature
@48nature 4 жыл бұрын
And note that it's not one band, as this video indicates. Jefferson Airplane ENDED in 1972. It was over for two years before Jefferson Starship was even formed. Different band. Different musicians, songwriters, eras, hits, etc... This is propaganda.
@robertdyerofficial
@robertdyerofficial 4 жыл бұрын
@Dewey Rayburn Interesting - I didn't know an ad blocker could stop ads within videos.
@victoriajoyce7363
@victoriajoyce7363 3 жыл бұрын
Gee missed they gig when the Jefferson Airplane opened for The Rolling Stones at the Cow Palace in 1966. It was Mick's Birthday and they just released Aftermath. Brian Jones sat cross-legged on the stage when they played Paint It Black. The McCoys also opener did Hang on Sloopy. And another SF Band Sopwith Camel was the third opener with the radio hit Hello Hello. That was before Signe Andersson got pregnant and was replaced with the Grace Slick from The Great Society. I still have my little orange Jefferson Airplane Loves you button somewhere that they gave away.
@noname-lq2kg
@noname-lq2kg 4 жыл бұрын
Forget about the untold truth! Rather, here's the truth! Grace Slick in her prime is probably the best female rock singer... period!
@levigarrett8674
@levigarrett8674 4 жыл бұрын
Sure as hell the all time coolest female rock singer who was just as cool as any rock singer with exception of Frank Zappa,nobody beat Zappa for cool.
@lionheartroar3104
@lionheartroar3104 4 жыл бұрын
uh,.no.
@ubertocreote3198
@ubertocreote3198 4 жыл бұрын
Janis. Period.
@levigarrett8674
@levigarrett8674 4 жыл бұрын
@@ubertocreote3198 Curious if your old enough to have seen Jefferson Airplane or Big Brother and the Holding Company / Full Tilt Boogie Band with Janis Joplin ? I was born in 1945 and lucky enough to see nearly every major act of the mid 60s through the 1980s so im wondering if your judging live vocals or engineered vocals,live Grace Slick wins hands down.
@TheRockinDonkey
@TheRockinDonkey 4 жыл бұрын
You spelled Ann Wilson wrong.
@LisaDawnn
@LisaDawnn 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised there was no mention how Paul Kanter and Signe Anderson died on the very same day (1/28/2016) at the very same age (74) Jorma is still rocking on KZfaq!
@KevyNova
@KevyNova 4 жыл бұрын
LisaDawnn Jorma rules.
@48nature
@48nature 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Jorma is cool, but he (and Jack Casady) had absolutely NOTHING to do with Jefferson Starship; the link made between them in this video is propaganda.
@beverlyledbetter8906
@beverlyledbetter8906 3 жыл бұрын
I love his name. Always have!
@SSHitMan
@SSHitMan 4 жыл бұрын
If you can find it (and it's out there for free download) get the Jefferson Airplane bootleg "A Weekend At Winterland". It's 2 live shows recorded on October 25 and 26 1969 at Winterland in San Francisco, Airplane at their finest. In the "Mau Mau (Amerikon) Jam" Grace starts singing about making love to a flying fish man lol.
@jonobester5817
@jonobester5817 3 жыл бұрын
Not one word, or riff, from their album "Modern Times." Or about Craig Chaquico's incredible solo at the end of Save Your Love, one of the greatest solos, and tunes, and albums of all time.
@beekay5914
@beekay5914 4 жыл бұрын
Blows Against the Empire was one of the best albums of the psychedelic era. Far better than anything else Airplane or Starship did.
@daleeasternbrat816
@daleeasternbrat816 4 жыл бұрын
Blows Against the Empire , in my opinion, is one of the three best Acid Rock (psychedelic) albums ever cut. Moody Blues, In Search Of The Lost Chord and Pink Floyd, Dark Side Of The Moon. Are the other two. Psychedelic is just the PC way of saying Acid Rock. Both Airplane and Jefferson Starship did some really good tunes. Check out Song to the Sun and Ride The Tiger. Two JS songs.
@zeusapollo8688
@zeusapollo8688 4 жыл бұрын
Hide witch hide the good folk come to burn thee
@haintedhouse2990
@haintedhouse2990 2 жыл бұрын
i loved Blows Against the Empire but Jefferson Airplane's first 6 albums are close to flawless.
@almishti
@almishti Жыл бұрын
@@zeusapollo8688 B/c we're not the way you used to be, when you were very young.
@cwinters907
@cwinters907 4 жыл бұрын
How can you talk about Airplane/Starship for over 12 minutes and never mention one of the greatest rock singers in American history?? Mickey Thomas is one of the best.
@cwinters907
@cwinters907 4 жыл бұрын
...or (in my opinion) one of the best albums ever....."Winds of Change"
@Mozart1220
@Mozart1220 4 жыл бұрын
@@cwinters907 You need to get out more.
@N3therWolf
@N3therWolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mozart1220 funny coming from a person who apparently doesnt understand people have different tastes
@dave101t
@dave101t 4 жыл бұрын
nothings gonna stop them now.....
@czos9239
@czos9239 4 жыл бұрын
@@cwinters907 Was digging through stuff and found that cd recently. Was starting to oxidize but the songs all ripped. Had forgotten how cool that title song was. First heard it on MTV when they actually... well, you know...
@jeffjohnston7642
@jeffjohnston7642 4 жыл бұрын
Grace was the only singer seriously considered to replace Signe. Nothing in this video is "untold". The entire history of Jefferson Airplane is told in Jeff Tamarkin's book Got a Revolution The Turbulent flight of Jefferson Airplane.
@MsBonijoni
@MsBonijoni 4 жыл бұрын
. ..Signe got pregnant and wanted to exit. ..
@philwright2480
@philwright2480 4 жыл бұрын
Never had a song about planes.." I like planes..Jet Airplanes"..
@KevyNova
@KevyNova 4 жыл бұрын
Phil Wright I was just going to mention this. It was the best song on the ‘89 reunion album.
@thermionic1234567
@thermionic1234567 4 жыл бұрын
Phil Wright so does Steve Miller...
@timquinn66
@timquinn66 3 жыл бұрын
Correction , the name was after a blues singer" Blind Lemon Jefferson" who is not fictional
@oklahomasupercell
@oklahomasupercell 3 жыл бұрын
Actually there was an aviation song by Jefferson Airplane called “Planes” in 1989 from the album “Jefferson Airplane”.
@willh1970
@willh1970 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if now is a good time to note that I met Marti Balin backstage at Lollapoluza in 1991 in Boston. Too many stories to tell her but will go into a book at some stage.
@jsmith1746
@jsmith1746 4 жыл бұрын
At 1:34 you are wrong, they actually did record a song about airplanes for their 1989 reunion album.
@badindian63
@badindian63 4 жыл бұрын
They also did "Have you seen the saucers?"
@paulnolan4971
@paulnolan4971 4 жыл бұрын
@@badindian63 yeah i remember tellin them that they're UNDER THE TEACUPS !!! :P we were so high, hmm like an Airplane WOW mind blown lol
@SSHitMan
@SSHitMan 4 жыл бұрын
Fat Angel was on Surrealistic Pillow, and has the lyrics "Fly Translove Airways gets you there on time Fly Jefferson Airplane gets you there on time" Not really about airplanes thought...
@paulnolan4971
@paulnolan4971 4 жыл бұрын
@@SSHitMan Donovan covered it
@simonbone
@simonbone 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulnolan4971 It was the other way round. Donovan wrote it (about the then up-and-coming Jefferson Airplane). JA loved it, and covered it themselves.
@richardm4857
@richardm4857 4 жыл бұрын
The best thing to ever come out of Jefferson Airplane is Hot Tuna. And, ever since this lockdown insanity began Jorma Koukonen, founding member and lead guitarist of Airplane and Hot Tuna is the only person I know of playing free shows right here on YouTUbe every Saturday night from his Fur Peace Ranch. Seek and you shall find!
@randyrick8019
@randyrick8019 4 жыл бұрын
see you there
@LisaDawnn
@LisaDawnn 4 жыл бұрын
Jorma has always been my idol. I watch Fur Peace Ranch too. Love when Jack joins in (well, in the good ole days when people gathered together)
@LiveMusicOntario
@LiveMusicOntario 4 жыл бұрын
I have a set from Hot Tuna live on stage (somewhere), I like to play at home when I'm relaxing and undisturbed. The only parts i cut out so I don't have to deal with them are when Grace Slick appears. It's jarring. It sounds like some drunk crashing the party. Prank or not, it's a buzz kill and cringy.
@kevinmoore9456
@kevinmoore9456 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this I can't help but think about the Concert in Golden Gate Park that my band played with Jorma Kaukonen, I guess is was '77 or '78. My band was Odysseus and I was the lead vocalist. Long time ago.
@orangeandblackattack
@orangeandblackattack 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously, the narrator didn't see them in 1989 on reunion tour. They were awesome. No wrong notes...Grace being Grace..saw them at Poplar Creek.
@petechau9616
@petechau9616 4 ай бұрын
I knew someone who attended a concert on this tour and he said the same thing; FWIW
@NaYawkr
@NaYawkr 4 жыл бұрын
Grace Slick, best voice in Rock & Roll.
@BazookaToe
@BazookaToe 4 жыл бұрын
Ann Wilson begs to differ.
@hydeparkdirector2756
@hydeparkdirector2756 4 жыл бұрын
@@BazookaToe , Well, she can keep on begging then. Lady Overkill.
@briankocheraabcdt4628
@briankocheraabcdt4628 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is the more I listen to music and expand well beyond traditional English speaking countries, words like greatest and best of all time become meaningless. In its highest vibe, music is a cosmic celebration - not a competition. After losing my voice for several decades, now that it is coming back in my 70s, I have a different perspective. Most musicians who aren't messed up and numbed by the Music Biz know what I'm talking about. Just repeat "It's a celebration - not a competition."
@PatrickLongworth
@PatrickLongworth 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, why compare or even make arrogant declarations of who is the best? Ann has a powerful voice however Grace has a powerful voice and she can be subtle and dramatic. Grace has more stage presence, actually Jefferson Starship as a whole has presence and power and subtlety.
@haintedhouse2990
@haintedhouse2990 Жыл бұрын
@@PatrickLongworth agreed. i've seen Airplane & Starship through the years and Grace was always cool to watch. she had a powerful stage presence that was quite the opposite of her competition at the time Janis Joplin. Joplin jumped around etc. Grace was very still, almost menacing lol.
@makewarnomore
@makewarnomore 4 жыл бұрын
That wasn't Paul, that was Jack at 4:56
@SuperBoomshack
@SuperBoomshack 4 жыл бұрын
This guy does zero real research
@debbiesims138
@debbiesims138 3 жыл бұрын
Who's Jack?
@makewarnomore
@makewarnomore 3 жыл бұрын
@@debbiesims138 Bass player Jack Cassidy(Jefferson Airplane/Hot Tuna/SVT)
@bluetarantulaproductions6179
@bluetarantulaproductions6179 10 ай бұрын
"Somebody to love" has to be one of my favorite song's by Jefferson Airplane/Starship
@ronreno5702
@ronreno5702 3 жыл бұрын
Find your way back, winds of change, Miricles.....great tunes
@frankpalancio8471
@frankpalancio8471 4 жыл бұрын
Mickey Thomas and Grace slick were awesome..I even thought Marty Balin was excellent.
@ruready2rock856
@ruready2rock856 4 жыл бұрын
They had some great songs in the 80's, like Jane, and no way out, and laying it on the line. Some of their best stuff ever!
@susanbezio1529
@susanbezio1529 3 жыл бұрын
Mickey Thompson was the singer then.
@susanbezio1529
@susanbezio1529 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas not Thompson sorry.
@robertstone9988
@robertstone9988 3 жыл бұрын
Lay it on the line is triumph.
@larrycoker8093
@larrycoker8093 3 жыл бұрын
Find Your Way Back and Jane are my 2 favorites. They never get old!
@beverlyledbetter8906
@beverlyledbetter8906 3 жыл бұрын
Mickey Thomas kept them going. He was good!
@jimbobxcityguy5338
@jimbobxcityguy5338 4 жыл бұрын
I had a short and funny experience wih Grace when guarding the stage at West Palm Beach Rock Festival. She was first out between bands and asked me if there was a place to go pee pee. I told her out back porty pot's but the are pretty bad now. She just smiled and said "I'll just hold it in. It'll help me jump around this show.". ha. Loved the Airplane so that night was a great time. Also was on stage for the Stones. They weren't good at all to me. Short short show and out of tune due to cold temps at 5am.
@ktee1403
@ktee1403 4 жыл бұрын
I got to meet Toly Anderson at a record store in Portland OR a couple years before she passed. Very humble lady.
@dalestreeter341
@dalestreeter341 4 жыл бұрын
The inference in the narrative that Signe was forced out of the band or dropped is untrue. She had a newborn and couldn't take the baby on the road so she left. Bill Graham was managing the Airplane and arranged for her to leave. She had a big sendoff by the band. You can find it on KZfaq.
@ktee1403
@ktee1403 4 жыл бұрын
@@dalestreeter341 she talked about all that. I didn't know there were two stories.
@tiffanyroseangeles7517
@tiffanyroseangeles7517 2 жыл бұрын
Loved hearing CSN harmonize,with,Grace,is truly beautiful to listen to( no I never was lucky enough to see them) Me,born in 1961) just saw a video here on YT)
@peuramauriainen604
@peuramauriainen604 4 жыл бұрын
Jorma Kaukonen!!.. greetings from Finland 🇫🇮
@123poparock
@123poparock 4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing “we built this city” in grade school with the local station getting plugged in the song. NOW it makes sense.
@kdbwiz
@kdbwiz 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the song, still do.
@craigkaschan4822
@craigkaschan4822 4 жыл бұрын
0die_art4 _ That was a crap song
@davidreinhardt2626
@davidreinhardt2626 3 жыл бұрын
Signe Anderson, perhaps? Whom I believe on the same day in S.F., along with Paul Kantner, had a heart attack & both died. There are some old freaks still around, barely, but Good job, keep it going...🌹
@publiusvelocitor4668
@publiusvelocitor4668 4 жыл бұрын
"They might be named after some obscure fictional blues singer, or drug paraphernalia; we just don't know." Yeah, I think we all know.
@beachside1
@beachside1 4 жыл бұрын
I personally think of Count on Me when I hear the band name. Miracles was great but for me,the song Count on Me is what does it
@christown2827
@christown2827 4 жыл бұрын
Love the hippie vibe on that one. I saw band member Pete Sears coming out of a tent at Knebworth in the UK in 1978. If the tent belonged to the band and it was large enough then the band were camping amongst the fans.
@davidsalucco56
@davidsalucco56 4 жыл бұрын
Not even a mention of runaway
@vancepomerening4794
@vancepomerening4794 4 жыл бұрын
Sherrie Snow also sang in the first incarnation of Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks.
@irvingr.fatback886
@irvingr.fatback886 4 жыл бұрын
And Dan Hicks played with the Rubber Balls in the early sixties.
@drlq7577
@drlq7577 4 жыл бұрын
Funny I just pulled out starship’s“Sarah” on acoustic guitar a medley instrumental version version as KZfaq recommended this clip right away, very weird.
@lionheartroar3104
@lionheartroar3104 4 жыл бұрын
I wish this channel would just spell out history without the snarky comments. How about just straight facts without your critical judgement of the band in any incarnation?
@Kidapollos5910
@Kidapollos5910 4 жыл бұрын
Right! If the guy just wants to trash the band, give us fair warning and put that in the title!
@lettyguerra371
@lettyguerra371 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone else that thinks the commentators are snarkey! 👍
@48nature
@48nature 4 жыл бұрын
"Straight facts" would be useful. This video is filled from top to bottom with distortions and fabrications. And it skips over the entire history of Jefferson Starship! 1974 - 1984! None of the rockin' hits, the gold and platinum albums, Craig Chaquico (lead guitarist for the duration and all the way through Starship), Pete Sears (bass player/keyboard player)...It's propaganda for the Airplane which had nothing at all to do with Jefferson Starship. They should change the title of the video to just that.
@hannabaal150
@hannabaal150 4 жыл бұрын
@@48nature You tell 'em Dara, you would know if anyone does. Say Hi to Craig for me!
@haintedhouse3052
@haintedhouse3052 4 жыл бұрын
agreed. I saw Jefferson Airplane on their 89 reunion tour - they sounded awesome, the audience loved them - this guy makes it sound like it was a failure - not true.
@1122shelli
@1122shelli 4 жыл бұрын
Blows against the empire was brilliant.
@heathermackie7390
@heathermackie7390 4 жыл бұрын
Starship is one of my favorite bands. My favorite songs were Sarah & We built this city
@lucialaurasperandio1725
@lucialaurasperandio1725 3 жыл бұрын
💫
@Bigheadcase
@Bigheadcase 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me what the background music is at the beginning of the video.....
@stevestites9762
@stevestites9762 4 жыл бұрын
They are absolute 60’s icons. Grew up with them, will always listen to them. Grace Slick is the Queen of Rock. (Well......Tina Turner maybe, tough choice.)
@drumminsonlive9199
@drumminsonlive9199 4 жыл бұрын
I never got the name change but a lot of bands changed their names back then anyway Slick had a good long run with the band and I liked a lot of their music...
@bloomfrieda7234
@bloomfrieda7234 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks I don't care about all the drama starships and Jefferson airplane had very talented musians and they all my favorite I never going to stop likekin their music 🎵🎶 🎸❤️🤟 great video thank you for sharing it 🤟❤️🎸
@leeanderson2998
@leeanderson2998 Жыл бұрын
Good luck Grace Slick and Family happy New Year!
@Mozart1220
@Mozart1220 4 жыл бұрын
If it's "untold" how does anyone know about it?
@judithneeley5229
@judithneeley5229 4 жыл бұрын
No mention of Joey Covington,k a drummer who played with them for a while (since died in a car accident in Palm Springs), plus Bill Graham (Fillmore West and East) managed them for a number of years. I didn't notice if he mentioned the KBC band, a splinter group of Paul, Jack and Jorma.
@robertwood4681
@robertwood4681 3 жыл бұрын
No Jorma in KBC, Paul, Marty and Jack, name comes from the initials of their Surnames.
@kc9056
@kc9056 4 жыл бұрын
Convoluted would be an understatement !!
@leonardssenkindu8445
@leonardssenkindu8445 3 жыл бұрын
😳,Wow, I did not her it was her who sang my favourite late 60’s “don’t you want somebody to love” with Jeferrey Airplane, I knew her in the band Starship when I was small back in the 80’s, 😃😃
@teamjesus7087
@teamjesus7087 4 жыл бұрын
WTF...? Not one word of Mickey Thomas. One of the greatest singers/voices from the eighties.
@lucialaurasperandio1725
@lucialaurasperandio1725 3 жыл бұрын
True, i agree with you. The best vocalist...
@51Humanspirit
@51Humanspirit 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in the North Bay Area since 63. I heard of a roach clip called by the bands name till after 1970.
@Mars-
@Mars- 4 жыл бұрын
Mickey Thomas should be mentioned as well. Lead vocals for some of the bands biggest songs. For example, "Jane "
@sgt.thundercok4704
@sgt.thundercok4704 4 жыл бұрын
Worst version of Airplane.
@Danodude22
@Danodude22 3 жыл бұрын
Putting this out there without giving Mickey Thomas his due credit is just WRONG!!
@THE-HammerMan
@THE-HammerMan 4 жыл бұрын
I have never have seen how "We Built This City" got so much sh*t. It's a nice little pop rocker, no "A Day In The Life" mind you, but it is a pretty decent song. It certainly does NOT deserve all the negative crap about it. Their fans expected(rightfully) so much more from Starship, but it is what it is(was).
@THE-HammerMan
@THE-HammerMan 4 жыл бұрын
@Cerbian There you go! Memories of the times. I'll take "We...This City" over all the Hip-Hop & Rap-Crap put together. It really ain't all that bad, but it sure was a huge fall from the "30 Seconds Over Winterland" days. 🎵And so it goes, And so it goes, And so it goes, And where it's going nobody knows... 🎵
@SziontificMystic
@SziontificMystic 4 жыл бұрын
I own a few of their vinyl but haven't dove into their vibe yet...
@rzxkp7none275
@rzxkp7none275 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this while people are making noise outside. Of course, same time...after 9 p.m.
@KPearce57
@KPearce57 4 жыл бұрын
I know around 1978 Starship was the headliner band for Rock on The Rhein near St. Geor Germany she got so wasted that they canceled Starship, there was a riot and the the stage and lighting was destroyed .
@toddswartz3510
@toddswartz3510 3 жыл бұрын
According to an interview with Marty , the name "Jefferson airplane" came from the name of someone's dog whom Jorma knew.
@si_w8201
@si_w8201 4 жыл бұрын
We Built The City is an awesome track and I won't be persuaded otherwise...
@robertsousa9550
@robertsousa9550 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I had an extended remix version of it. Wish I knew what I did with it.
@richarddelgado2723
@richarddelgado2723 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always had the pre-disposition towards critics if they think its so fucken easy why don’t they try to and do something better
@christopheryasus3666
@christopheryasus3666 3 жыл бұрын
@Cerbian facts. When I hear it nowadays its more easy not to knock cause at least it came from them...a respected bunch. 80s cheesed out all music. Business
@haintedhouse3052
@haintedhouse3052 3 жыл бұрын
good for you - stick to your guns!
@marvymarier8988
@marvymarier8988 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it sucked
@ironmannjb
@ironmannjb 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the first outdoor concert, Fantasy Fair and Magic Mountain Music Festival June 10, 11, 1967. Jefferson Starship played on Sunday 11 June.
@jameshudson169
@jameshudson169 4 жыл бұрын
miracles! i totally forgot about that song!! guess i never knew WHO sang that.
@justsayin1643
@justsayin1643 4 жыл бұрын
All time fave song is “Today”
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 4 жыл бұрын
The Airplane apparently named the Album 'Bless its pointed little head' after Grace Slick's baby which had that pointe head when it was firstborn, which is common after a hard delivery or forceps?
@robertwood4681
@robertwood4681 3 жыл бұрын
Except that album came out two years before Grace's baby.
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertwood4681 haha, perhaps they had seen another new born with a pointed head!
@kennethmarston8687
@kennethmarston8687 5 ай бұрын
Who can forget how great Papa John Creach and Fast Buck Freddy is?
@SPAZZYok
@SPAZZYok Жыл бұрын
Bernie Taupin was a genius. Elton is nothing without him.
@lucialaurasperandio1725
@lucialaurasperandio1725 3 жыл бұрын
Mickey is the best singer of all, and Craig is the best guitarrist. ❤
@makewarnomore
@makewarnomore 4 жыл бұрын
I saw JS play in Central Park, NYC in 1974 and they were very good. Being a tad too young I never saw JA until their 1989 reunion tour which was good. I did however grow up watching/listening to HOT TUNA. Without Jorma n Jack its just not the same but JS Craig Chaquico was a very good guitar player.
@markheller197
@markheller197 4 жыл бұрын
makewarnomore I to was at that concert in Central Park....Fantastic! Saw Hot Tuna many times over the years. Jack and Jorma Live
@rocket4189
@rocket4189 4 жыл бұрын
Starship > Airplane - Marty Balin was great and Mickey Thomas still is. Epic.
@prairiewolfo9274
@prairiewolfo9274 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant documentary, and some interesting footage. Airplane Freaks Forever! ⌬
@OldMovieRob
@OldMovieRob Жыл бұрын
I guess I don't get the hate for "We Built This City". Sure it's cheesy and over the top, but I'm fond of it.
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 4 жыл бұрын
There was a concert that was being promoted by my local radio station! Which I got to see. And a list of bands. STEVE MILLER BAND. 38 SPECIAL. RATT. PETER FRAMPTON but he didn't show up because after a hurricane he couldn't make it. Which obviously I would love to see him live. EDGAR WINTER GROUP. He's a really great blues player and very underrated. And STARSHIP.... IF GRACE SLICK isn't there I don't care. And yeah that STARSHIP! I mean if she was there. where would be the JEFFERSON AIRPLANE or JEFFERSON STARSHIP songs? Seriously skipped over starship! Still got burned out on that 80'S CHEESE. And can't take them seriously.
@lionheartroar3104
@lionheartroar3104 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Starship in the 90's on a double bill with Buck Dharma of Blue Oyster Cult. It was a great show.
@kendraleepike5147
@kendraleepike5147 4 жыл бұрын
I know that Jefferson Airplane had a song with trains planes and Automobiles it must have came out in the sixties when Jefferson Airplane was Jefferson Airplane it's a soft gentle pop song trains planes and Automobiles was basically what I could hear in the song and I have never heard the song Until 19 91 and I'm pretty sure it was a song that was produced in the 60s between the 60 70s and 80s but when I discovered the song in 91 I have never heard that song since and I really wish I could hear it again trains planes and Automobiles
@jeffjohnston7642
@jeffjohnston7642 4 жыл бұрын
Spencer Dryden didn't "sit out" the reunion album & tour. He was never asked to participate. He sat home waiting for the call and it never arrived.
@simonbone
@simonbone 4 жыл бұрын
That's right. Kantner was still angry about his role in dismissing Bill Graham as Airplane manager.
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