Redesigning Blacksmith Guillotine Tool

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Glen GS Tongs

Glen GS Tongs

3 жыл бұрын

In this video, I show my progress with redesigning my guillotine tool.
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Thanks. Glen

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@TP-xi7ri
@TP-xi7ri 3 жыл бұрын
Glen, very nice job on the new design. Just a suggestion for the short upper die problem. Just cut a half moon notch on the top die holder of the tool for a little area to use a a finger grab area for the upper die. Nice job as always with all your videos. TP
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really good idea. I'm exploring options and like yours the best. Thanks for sharing.
@JFTaqua
@JFTaqua 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you showing us the process, it feels like I learn more when you are developing a process rather than just demonstrating a tried and tested technique. Thanks Glen.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Making a video of me experimenting like this also helps me learn quicker. Lots of good comments...
@danbourlotos5188
@danbourlotos5188 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those moments where you look at something and think, "Oh yeah... I'm a blacksmith." Happens all the time.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I have those moments too but with me, it's more in a questions form - Am I a blacksmith?!
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 3 жыл бұрын
Nice design change, I think the pipe idea will work great. You could weld on a striker face to the short top die to add length. Thank you for sharing your tool.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using this new design with pipe guides. The dies are a bit sloppy but it's working fine. I'd rather not add to the tool since I'm trying to save weight. And so I may even do a total redesign from this. Still scratching my head...
@dougalexander7204
@dougalexander7204 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard you mention Mr. Hodges and other supporters several times in the past. From a deadbeat viewer too poor to help... thank you for keeping GS Tongs up and running.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Watching and commenting is support enough. It's not necessary to donate to watch. Thanks for sticking around the channel.
@grandadz_forge
@grandadz_forge 3 жыл бұрын
I like watching the inventive process.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you along. Still need to make adjustments to this.
@salamibad2262
@salamibad2262 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend hot filing the inside of your pipe guides. its what i did when i home brewed 3 guides myself. keep up the great work.
@chrisrushbrook1587
@chrisrushbrook1587 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking similar hot rasping would sort that out in seconds.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Someone else recommended a vinegar bath to remove scale but hot filing is also a good option which could remove more than just scale. Thanks.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the good suggestions.
@craigljardine
@craigljardine 3 жыл бұрын
I like the new design of the guillotine tool. Looks like something I could fabricate myself and that's why I like your channel so much .
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely something a lot of folks could make. The hard part that I've found is getting the measurements all just right, especially since I'm doing this with saving weight in mind. But the cutting/pasting parts are very doable. Thanks for being a Patreon supporter, etc.
@jub7914
@jub7914 3 жыл бұрын
try a vinegar soak for 24hrs after youve forged the pipe to shape, you may remove enough scale that the dies will fit.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Just removing that scale can make a big difference. Thanks for sharing.
@brysonalden5414
@brysonalden5414 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your thought processes and learn from you!
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you watching.
@justanothajoe
@justanothajoe 3 жыл бұрын
First off, been watching and lurking for quite a while. I've always enjoyed just how clean and refined all of your work is. Thank you for sharing and keep making all the goodness!
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you say you've been "lurking". I think I do the same with a lot of KZfaq channels I watch. Thanks for your support.
@filipponseele7346
@filipponseele7346 3 жыл бұрын
A great, simple to make guilllotine-tool. Yours and Mark Aspery are for me the winning ones. Lots of crappy ones for sale and expencive. Kind regards Blacksmith Filip Ponseele
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your support. I still need to do some thinking on this but feel I'm going in the right direction with this redesign. Thanks.
@TheJonasShow
@TheJonasShow 3 жыл бұрын
Im a bit conserned with the tool bending. I managed to bend my guillotine tool to an unusable state. Personally i would go back to the oldest design to combat that and would just pay more for shipping. Your gilloteen tool is by far the cheapest ive seen and comes with dyes so i dont think itle be too bad on the customers. I am also conserned with mushrooming and recomend lengthening the top fuller a bit.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to know of your trouble and thanks for your input.
@JDeWittDIY
@JDeWittDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Heard about a big train crash in Taiwan this morning, and my first thought was "I hope Glen and his family are safe!"
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
We are all fine. Thanks for your concern. Wish you and yours the best as well.
@JDeWittDIY
@JDeWittDIY 3 жыл бұрын
@@gstongs Thanks Glen, good to hear!
@Fogyt121
@Fogyt121 3 жыл бұрын
You could just drift them over a bolster plate, that will allow more of the drift to get in. Maybe also run a file a few times on the inside?
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I thought about that but need the bolster to be just the right size so as not to have surrounding steel get sucked in and deformed. But a good idea for sure. Thanks.
@homemadetools
@homemadetools 3 жыл бұрын
Good work as always. We featured this video in our homemade tools forum this week :)
@ronthacker211
@ronthacker211 3 жыл бұрын
If the top die was an inch wider than the bottom die, you could raise it with the workpiece and slide the workpiece into position, freeing up the hand you were using to raise it. Try it.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
A good idea. But I also have to consider weight with this tool so it's tricky balancing act. I'll see what I can do. Thanks.
@yellowbellyjacket
@yellowbellyjacket 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe flip your pipe blanks over as you drift and drift from both directions like a hammer eye.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
It's not obvious but I was doing that. I just need to tweak this a bit but in the meantime, the milled guides are the way to go. Thanks.
@mattshindel4663
@mattshindel4663 3 жыл бұрын
I love mine - thank you Glen!
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your business and comment. Thanks.
@therantingidiots8769
@therantingidiots8769 3 жыл бұрын
You could also relieve the corners of the guides with a dremel tool.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think of that - a good idea. Let's see where this goes. Thanks.
@joefergerson5243
@joefergerson5243 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!!!
@TheOldaz1
@TheOldaz1 3 жыл бұрын
Need to improve the drift a little, even if it means making a specific shaped one with slightly larger corners to more replicate the machined tool shape to get better corner clearance. Then you don't need to relieve the die corners. Thanks Glen.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly spot on advice. And I also need to consider how the pipes expand and shrink when going from hot to cold. Thanks.
@youmanskids
@youmanskids 3 жыл бұрын
very creative. looks good.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
So far so good with this design. Thanks for watching.
@mckutzy
@mckutzy 3 жыл бұрын
I like the tool.. I kinda wished I had an anvil with a hole... If it were me, I d like to see a retainer for the lower die. A set screw or welded nub, a punched in dimple.. something to retain the lower die as you pick it up, and not have it fly out.... I could see in a more calculated fabricating movements of an item, the need for a full anvil face or to revert to use of tool and just to pick up the set and out goes the bottom tool flying about, loosing your heat. hopefully not in a critical moment....
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Your points are well taken. I'm happy enough with what this is for the price but I may also do a total redesign and incorporate ideas like yours. We'll see...
@grifixed
@grifixed 3 жыл бұрын
the yellow flakes coming off of the pipe make me think there's zinc in the pipe. be careful
@JustinTopp
@JustinTopp 3 жыл бұрын
Either zinc or paint coated on the pipe. Looks more like zinc though some paint does look like that when heated. Either way not good .
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I've taken note of that and will be careful with that unknown pipe. Thanks.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased black carbon steel pipe - no zinc but definitely paint. I will be cautious with this. Thanks.
@yoannvourch
@yoannvourch 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, be careful with those pipes they look galvanized and the fumes can cause metal fever when you take to much of it, some blacksmiths got really sick of it, even died, but great video !
@jackshadow325
@jackshadow325 3 жыл бұрын
They don’t look galvanized.
@yoannvourch
@yoannvourch 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackshadow325thank you, but the yellow color when he first put it out of the forge look like it, but if it's not the better. The piece of information to retain was never use galvanized steel in a forge with little ventilation.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I don' think the pipe in the video contains zinc but I'm being careful. I bought new pipe that is just carbon steel. Thanks.
@iolithblue
@iolithblue 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Glen, maybe get a single oversized die made to shape the pipe around
@grifixed
@grifixed 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, that way when it cools and shrinks itwill fit
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a good idea. I'm still fumbling around with this - we'll see... Thanks.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I'll see what I can do. Thanks.
@417plasma6
@417plasma6 Жыл бұрын
what radius is the DOM -OD ? they both look very creative designed tools ..great video Glen
@user-hg5zh7ot9y
@user-hg5zh7ot9y 18 күн бұрын
It’s a very good.
@wesleymccravy901
@wesleymccravy901 3 жыл бұрын
Man oh man if you only had a fly press. I know you love tai pei... And i am sure the stock for tongs is crazy cheap there, but surely coming home to America would benefit you business-wise as far as shipping costs and product availability
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Since steel is a traded commodity, prices are very similar in different countries. I would love a fly press and if/when I have space, I will get one. And yes, being in the US would benefit me greatly in some ways. Once the wife is ready, we'll move back. Thanks.
@jerrybeaver4959
@jerrybeaver4959 3 жыл бұрын
I'd think if you did the initial shaping of the pipe guides, your machine shop when mill them to final dimension for a fraction of the cost of milling the entire thing
@JDeWittDIY
@JDeWittDIY 3 жыл бұрын
He could probably make a broach out of the die steel by annealing, cutting notches in the sides, and hardening/tempering.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
This did cross my mind and is something I might explore. Thanks for watching and sharing.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned a broach. I have thinking to do... Thanks.
@randomusernumber1
@randomusernumber1 3 жыл бұрын
the fiirst pipe didnt work because the metal shrinks as it cools , so even tho your drift fits in the finished product wont
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, so I may oversize the piece that I'm using to get the pipes to proper shape and size. More experimenting needed.... Thanks.
@larslindthomsen7370
@larslindthomsen7370 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Glen. Have been on your website and what you do is art👍. Can I buy since I live in Denmark. Lars
@randywilliams2505
@randywilliams2505 3 жыл бұрын
This is from his website: I will ship to anywhere in the world with the shipping rates being the same as for US customers (since I myself am overseas).
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi and yes, if the shipping is not suspended, I will send to anywhere. Thanks for watching and for checking out my website.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help.
@landroveraddict2457
@landroveraddict2457 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered purchasing or making a broach to cut the internals of the pipe?
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned this but I'm not sure how that would work - used hot or cold? I need to explore this. Thanks.
@landroveraddict2457
@landroveraddict2457 3 жыл бұрын
@@gstongs Take a look a this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdRhpZiJy7zPqZ8.html or this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5hmnqaStdC8aHk.html pretty sure it is what you need. A well constructed broach could be driven with a heavy hammer but a cheap ebay press would have than enough force.
@slesarka_art
@slesarka_art 3 жыл бұрын
Хорошая работа ! Звук удара по наковальне глухой и мне интересно из какого металла она сделана ? Привет из России !
@Hood-serg
@Hood-serg 3 жыл бұрын
Сбоку у него магнит стоит,он звук гасит.В одном ролике он показывал.
@slesarka_art
@slesarka_art 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hood-serg Спасибо ! буду ролик искать - интересно устройство
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
My anvil is made from 4145 steel. It has a dull sound because I have magnets attached to lessen the ringing. Thanks.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said. Thanks.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@demastust.2277
@demastust.2277 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like there was zinc on that pipe. Not good.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
The new pipe I have is carbon steel, no zinc. The pieces I used in this video were scrap and I'm not sure. Thanks for pointing that out.
@michaelwood5519
@michaelwood5519 3 жыл бұрын
Love the design, How do I order one?
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Ordering is as simple as emailing me - glen03@earthlink.net
@michaelwood5519
@michaelwood5519 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind, I found your website.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
OK and thanks.
@michaelwood5519
@michaelwood5519 3 жыл бұрын
@@gstongs Can you send me the price of this guillotine set? pintoblades@yahoo.com Thanks!
@stome3416
@stome3416 2 жыл бұрын
is this the style you are currently selling? Your site shows a different style.
@gstongs
@gstongs 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I've changed my guillotine (fullering) tool style to what you see on my website. But I can still make this style here if you're interested. Email me if you would like more info. Thanks and Merry Christmas. Glen: gstongs@gmail.com
@wesleymccravy901
@wesleymccravy901 3 жыл бұрын
What do you use for die material?
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
1050 medium carbon steel. Thanks.
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just use square or some other profile tube and weld 2 peaces to the third?
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
I did try square tube in the past. Maybe I need to revisit that. Thanks.
@kenbultman8670
@kenbultman8670 3 жыл бұрын
Why couldn't a person add washers under the bottom die to make it taller
@48vdcwrld
@48vdcwrld 2 жыл бұрын
What was the pipe size?
@gbwildlifeuk8269
@gbwildlifeuk8269 3 жыл бұрын
Its pronounced "gilloteen" not "geeoteen", the letter L is'nt silent!
@youmanskids
@youmanskids 3 жыл бұрын
it is in the French pronunciation.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
The American pronunciation (and French) drop the L sound whereas the British keep the L. Thanks for watching and sharing.
@gstongs
@gstongs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and American English ('Merica) don't pronounce the L sound.
@MotherMountainForge
@MotherMountainForge 3 жыл бұрын
Very lazy smithng.....
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