Might increase the buoyancy of the vessel...

Lol, immediately hit “like” when I saw that

​@@ErikHenrichsen😅😮😮😮😊

Instantly added to my lexicon 🤣

Gives a new meaning to "emergency blow"....

I half half a dozen mini 14s 30 year speed have M1A have colt H bar served in the USMC zero and i mean zero problems all great old rifles

You were being attacked by Fudds. This, straight from the Ruger Factory Manual: "The RUGER®MINI-14®RIFLESare chambered for the .223 Remington(5.56mm) cartridge. The Mini-14 Rifle is designed to use either standardized U.S.military, or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice." Seems pretty unambiguous to me!

@@jefftaylortaylor5836 Thank you. Unfortunately, the argument persists because folks simply don't open their owners manuals. This knowledge, apart from the history behind it, was always available.

Did the same. Started a year or two later than you with an M-1 from CMP and then realized the AR was more accurate, easier to shoot, and a lot cheaper shoot and to reload. I built up one from parts kits so I could get a free floated match barrel and it took months to get them.

The AR-15 started coming around in the mid 1970's with the growing survivalist movement..

I got a Bushmaster in 1986 , at Benning's school for wayward boys

Purchased my first colt in 1991

Colt SP-1s, Sporter IIs, and Carbines were very popular on store shelves in CA in the 1980s, along with Hk91s, Hk93s, Hk94s, Uzis, SAR-48s, Mini-14s, but no real AKs to be found, with maybe a few Mitchell exceptions. Eagle Arms EA-15s started showing up in the mid-late 1980s, followed by Quality Parts/Bushmaster. I saw all of this first-hand as someone who frequented gun shops regularly.

Exactly. Archie Bunker's meathead son in law wore a field jacket. It represented some weird perspective by draft dodging hippies. I never could fathom it.

When I was coming up it was the poor kids that wore Army-Navy Vietnam era clothes. Usually the jackets and boots they weren't trying to be tough or steal valor it was just that their parents were poor and those clothes were cheap and tough.

Veterans, as soon as they do anything right, their benefits will be cut. Remember that. Probably explains their lack of interest. 😉

A good friend of mine bought a Colt SP-1 as soon as he got back from Vietnam in the early days, then went to college in Texas, then got commissioned in the Army, went SF. He was in Vietnam before 1965 build-up, doing OTB stuff in Force Recon. He had a very interesting career.

@@LRRPFco52 Absolutely!

Roberti-Roos Ban in California sent a shockwave of interest in AR-15s across the Nation in the late 1980s, then came the Clinton/Biden/Feinstein Crime Bill/AWB.

Thank you.

Welcome home from a Seabee brother. CBMU 302 Detachment India NSAD Ben Luc, Delta region, 1970-1971.

​@@waynehajek6346 soaringbob, Glad you made it out. CBMU-302, Subic Bay 1978-79 "Done did." ☆

This guy is a Fudd.

Yup. AR-15s and other semi auto military rifles were very popular in the 1980s in the Southwest US from what I experienced.

I also call BS on the 'only hippies wore OD', the south pretty much lived off of milsurp for basic everyday uses.

In the 70s while in the army you could buy civilian m16 from the rod and gun club for under 200 bucks. We carried CAR15s in central America. Lots of people had ar 15s in the 80s

I totally agree, I was buying ARs in Alaska which is also "Blue". I went to high school in the Boston area and the accent is unmistakable. I don't find his story that credible regarding the availability or demand for ARs in the eighties. I've been in the Aviation industry for 40 years and NOBODY is shoving the metric system down my throat, not unless they just don't want to fly. He needs to get out of the garage more I think? A man you ask what time it is and he tells you how to build a watch.

Same. And I have a double barrel shotty because of the current pres. Thanks uncle joe

Get a 6.5 Grendel AR upper. I'm not far from you in Utah and shoot the Grendels all the time. Awesome little cartridge.

The beauty of the ar15 is ubiquity. Like going to your neighbor to borrow a cup of sugar; and maybe a magazine and a few hundred rounds of 223/556.

@@afroghair6793 Yup. It's an easy design to be well-regulated by the local citizenry.

...my late father wanted an M1 Garand...hr got one of the first M1 Carbines that the government surplussed out in the early 60s - I was only 12 or 13 at the time and didn't appreciate the collectibility of those guns...never thought to look at the maker of various other features...around two years after he passed away in 1984 I bought one of the Korean imports from an FFL at Pratt & Whitney in Jupiter, FL - it was in sorry condition, but over time I restored it to shootability...

I think your miss reading. Ruger told me "the bullet" casing is NOT STEEL. They are not talking about the cartridge case. (ie brass). I hope this helps@@redrider7730

That's quite the alphabet soup. Police departments don't allow cops to carry any rifle on the job. All police departments have qualification regulations to keep vicarious liability lawsuits from suing towns and chiefs out of their fiscal britches. Maverick rifles... uh, I don't think so. I get tired of that unfair blog mischaracterization. Bill Ruger was a very loyal and patriotic American, who sought to preserve the Second Amendment. Any gun company IS about preserving the Second Amendment. He was well aware of the attack on it and knew the enemy, who was stalking any opportunity to demonize shooters. He was trying to preserve sporting firearms as he knew them, and believed that high capacity guns would legitimize the liberal press and give anti-gunners more ammo than any magazine. It was merely a numbers game, and I'm not at all convinced that I couldn't withstand any conceivable threat that existed in those days with the 10 rounds that he favored. Things have since changed, but nobody was under mortal threat when he made his statements. It had nothing to do with his trust for Americans. He was fearful of further encroachment by government and was trying to keep an increasingly angry dog away from his beloved Second Amendment. History proved his fears were quite prophetic. Almost immediately, the gun culture took a turn that I sincerely regret. I lived through the terrible changes from the wonderful gun culture of my youth. We kept guns in unlocked walnut furniture glass cases in the living room. Every Sunday afternoon, folks tuned into African hunting episodes with Robert Stack shooting dangerous game with a .458 Winchester Magnum on the American Sportsman, on ABC! In the 7th grade, I built a bedroom gun rack from a three ring binder in the Junior HS wood shop. That would incur an FBI investigation now and a local news reporter's snooping around with a TV camera. HS kids in my town brought target rifles to school to store in the Principal's office and walked or took the school bus with them without even a gun case. That would be imprisonment for the Principal now. That's the America Bill Ruger grew up in, too. In the 60s, walked from my house to the local woods with a .22 under my arm through the city streets, and mothers would call out, "have fun and be safe!". Mattel sold millions of toy guns that were advertised on TV and given at Christmas. I owned a Mattel Tommy Gun and a holstered pair of "Fanner 50's" that I played with outside with my friends when I was 8 years old. I took my Daisy everywhere after I turned 10, and every boy I knew had one. It stood in my bedroom. Guns were beloved by Americans. That's the America Bill Ruger was trying to preserve. Whether he was mistaken in his personal approach to the matter or not has nothing to do with trust for Americans, and it's quite unfair to paint such a broad brush. He created guns for Americans. The First Amendment comes just before the Second and he was using that right, whether others agreed or not. Factually, if it wasn't for his introduction of the Mini-14 and the introduction of an otherwise military caliber, tons of surplus 5.56mm ammo would have been dumped into the ocean, and the .223 may never have caught on.

"Police departments don't allow any cop's to carry any rifle on the job." What did I miss? Plenty of cops are issued AR 15..

@@GunBlue490 I never said the police carried anything. The gun store was connected to the building that housed the police supply store. There were always police officers in the gun store. Local, sheriff’s department officers, state troopers and others. I’m just relating what I saw. I don’t know what firearms they bought or what some of their personal feelings were, I just know the store carried a multitude of different firearms types. You were the one that said no one was interested in those types of firearms back then. I also knew the owner personally and knew his feelings about the second amendment. As far as Mr. Ruger is concerned I think he made it pretty clear that he didn’t trust ordinary Americans to be in possession of standard capacity magazines for their firearms. If he did he would have allowed them to be sold. No matter to me, as I said I never had any problem getting new in the white box 20’s and 30 round mags for my Mini. That’s just the way it was. Once again I never said those officers carried anything but I can say this. Up until then I didn’t have much use for police. I saw them as the enemy but those men I met during that time changed my mind. They took the time to talk to a young guy like me and I’m proud to say many of them were my friends. I experienced the same America you did. My Dad kept his guns in the same kind of cabinet you described. Bought it at Sears. It held a prominent place in our family room for years. He even let me store my Johnny Eagle big game hunting rifle in the cabinet alongside his real guns. When I was old enough I got my first “real” gun the way most boys back then did. A Marlin single shot .22 on Christmas Day and it spent many days with me on the range and in the woods learning the skills and responsibilities of firearms ownership. You see, I grew up in the same America you did and had the same experiences. To bad that America is gone now. I really wish it wasn’t so.

​@@GunBlue490The problem is he missed the core reason of the 2nd Amendment. It was not for hunting, it was so people could band militias and be on the same playing field as the troops of the federal government.

@@GunBlue490 many of the Idaho State Police and Idaho City Police Officers carried AR-15’s in their Patrol cars when I was in High School and rode around with them. That was 1975-1978. I’m not sure what they carry now, as those I rode with have long since retired. I love the information about the Mini-14. I bought my first one in 1982. I traded it in on an Arma-Lite National Match AR-15 in 1998. I’m still kicking myself over that one. Nothing worse than saying good-bye to a gun!!!

The ordinance department deliberately sabotaged it. Which is why they got shut down.

Watch my historical remarks about the M16 in the video presentation I made. No, the government converted from extruded IMR powder (DuPont-Remington) to Ball powder (Olin-Winchester) with a different burning rate, but that was not the issue. The issue at hand was the sabotaging of the M16 by military brass within the Ordnance Department who didn't want to lose their cushy jobs overseeing Springfield Armory, et al. They didn't want civilian manufacturers to assume the role of making guns that the military had enjoyed since George Washington. They purposefully neglected to chrome plate bores, as everyone in Ordnance had proclaimed was necessary after WWII, and they didn't issue .22 bore cleaning equipment to combatants. That combination of wanton and deviate neglect by the high command caused severe corrosion and fouling very quickly in Vietnam. These neglects were identified very quickly in country and were immediately corrected. They used other tactics to defame the M16 and undermine confidence. Combat news reporters were mysteriously sent to interview soldiers and Marines about their bad guns and drew them into suggestive responses. I saw such reports on TV. "Soldier, how can you be confident in that gun when it's so bad?" Seconds later, that soldier was returning fire with the camera running, but the poison was given to folks at home. Those faulty M16s were immediately called out and replaced with very capable revisions called the A1. The brass was furious at Secretary McNamara's closing of Springfield Armory, and they did everything to spoil the gun, which unfortunately cost some American lives. It was not the huge number that legend has made of it. But the enemy was not the fine gun that has been fighting capably and officially since 1969; it was those who sought to take it down.

​@@GunBlue490 ★ Wow! That's interesting! I haven't heard that. Thanks.

Not so. A .223 Remington is not at all limited by bullet lengths. That's a rifling twist issue. A .223 with a fast twist will handle the same bullet lengths as a 5.56 NATO rifle.

The 223 has a shorter throat than the 5.56 and a shorter minimum go gauge..Using 5.56 spec ammo in a 223 chamber AR-15 can cause pressure and reliability problems..@@GunBlue490

You are correct. The 5.56 throat is a little longer than the .223. The Wylde falling in between. This allows 5.56 ammo to be loaded to slightly higher pressures than .223 ammo. Weatherby used the same long throat theory in their rifles. The Wylde chamber was developed to allow the use of longer bullets, such as the 80gr Match King. These bullets would be seated to an overall length that would allow for maximum powder capacity in match loadings. The trouble was they had to be single loaded as they were over magazine length. If memory serves, the .223 is loaded to about 55k psi and the 5.56 is loaded to about 62k psi. Is that enough of a difference in the shorter throat of the .223? As a side note .223s often have a 1/12 twist rate, while the 5.56 will use a 1/7, 1/8 or 1/9 twist. The faster twist will work with most bullet weights but the 1/12 has limits. Good shooting!

Somehow the AR-15 smells a little bit more like freedom than the Mini-14 ?

@@Jack-xy2pz How's that?

Yes, I was always aware of that. Meddling in American affairs is their game, because it's always easier and cheaper to subvert and convert a people from within than to overtake them by force. It's a concern that the FBI was once very devoted to years ago, which is no longer apparently the case.

@@GunBlue490 Rightly said. The FBI was purged of American patriots starting with Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton and was completed by Obama. Now they are nothing more than Praetorians helping to purge America of "counter-revolutionaries" (i.e. anyone opposed to their Marxist insurrection).

The cartridges are identical in everything except the somewhat higher 5.56mm NATO pressures. There's no difference in case dimensions whatsoever. The NATO chamber uses a longer freebore (leade) to allow some forgiving bullet jump, and is tested to greater pressures. I may cover the Wylde matter at some point soon.

@@GunBlue490 Thanks!!!

The NATO/military brass is thicker in the web compared to commercial223 cases to handle higher pressures. The outside dimensions are exactly the same..@@GunBlue490

@@89fingerslouieXRP You are correct, and @GunBlue490 nailed it in the difference. I handload for a 5.56mm AR platform, and also own a Remington 700 SA in .223. The 5.56 will shoot it all, the .223 has it's 'pet' loads because it will spike pressure with its short freebore.

I had a scoped 80s mini-14 that wouldn't shoot any better than 2.5-3 MOA! I brought it to my gunsmith and asked if anything could be done to improve its accuracy. I told him I wanted to shoot varmints...he said "nope...if you want a semi-auto varmint rifle...buy an AR"!

It took a lot of load development, and patience to get the Mini-14's I worked on too shoot well. If it doesn't have a better barrel than normal, it may not matter, what you do. It's a difficult stock design to keep it from slipping around on your shoulder. How the screws are torqued around the gas cylinder and a few other concerns are pesky detail too. Your gunsmith is right, about Ar's being easier.

@@johnshields9110 I ended up selling it for more than I paid for it and kept the vintage Weaver scope...so it's all good. I think it was made prior to Ruger making their barrels in-house...so that may have been the problem.

There is a difference, read above..

They were made for European countries that prohibit civilian sales of military chamberings. Those few examples were over-runs of French and some other export productions.

@@GunBlue490 Interesting. I actually heard the original cartridge the scaled down AR-15 was .222 Remington before they decided they needed more punch and developed the .223 Remington. Funny how the chamberings would've changed had the .222 Remington been kept.

@@GunBlue490 That is very interesting. I have an old 60s Model 70 in .222 so that makes me think maybe I should keep an eye peeled for one of those rare birds. Love your channel - great video.

The original AR-15 was chambered for the 222 Remington..

I was in the early 80s about 10 years after they rifles introduction. I remember seeing a couple of those rifles in the gun shop I worked in. They were superb rifles. Just says that many 14 was for what it was designed to be I happen to own a Mini-14 in a short, folded up close-quarters engagement rifle. But I also understand that the ammo, the 55 grain Full Metal Jacket. Is only effective in the first two hundred yards and I don't even plan on firing it but about half of that distance or less. But remember. When you shorten the barrel on a 556 or 223. It gets blisteringly loud quite quickly. If you put a muzzle brake on it, you'll have to take a drill and can't those ports forward at least five degrees or you're going to pay for it with your hearing.

The Mini-14 has a few attributes that I've always appreciated compared to AR-pattern rifles: slimmer and more compact-more"traditional" appearance,a simpler design,a receiver made of steel,rather than melted-down beer cans.👍

5.56 worked fine in mini 14's and in ARs though you would get higher pressure signs on the base of the brass (the image of the ejector on the base of the brass.) In the late 70's and early 80's anyone shooting (not including military folks, maybe) viewed the 5.56 as just another name for the .223. Commercial reloaders used once fired military 5.56 brass to reload .223.

Very typical. Three dealers I knew wouldn't touch any military style gun for that reason, and that rule didn't change for many years.

ruger.com/dataProcess/serialHistory/manuals.php

@@GunBlue490 thank you

All AR-15s made by Colt have a 5.56 NATO chamber, so it doesn't in your case.

You had very rare shelves.

Each of them are great, having several of both is best!

I’ve had three rugers and they all were horribly inaccurate. The mini 14 seems to have that reputation and I can certainly understand.

@@jamescampbell9533 Yeah, aside from the "target" version mini 14 that has the heavy 1 inch thick barrel and harmonic balancer on the end that's adjustable I also have one of the older pencil barrel standard ranch versions and that one is nowhere near as accurate as the target version. At least with factory loaded ammo, but it does much better with handloaded ammo that's loaded down to around 2200 ft per second. For some reason, at least with the one I have it prefers the downloaded weak ammo. Doing that gets me 2-3" groups at 100 yds. The target version is in another league of it's own getting sub 1" groups at 100 yds.

They were about $1K each.

More recently made Springfield Armory M1A rifles are made for full pressure .308 Winchester ammunition and are marked as such.

@@GunBlue490 I just bought mine about a year ago and the manual still says to only shoot military grade ammo.