Weird @6:17. I have never seen a LiPo in an 18650 Li ion package before. Where did you get these?

Wow ...

@@headlessxp4948 lipol is a battery brand. Lipo is a battery chemistry type. The video is a bit confusing

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNybnNyHudzMfX0.html those Winstone batteries sucks big time

I hope you cleaned all this contaminated site after your tests. I can see the crop fields near by. Do you know that lithium batteries are very toxic, especially when burning. You even spilled some water on punctured cells, which then ended up in the soil. The worst thing is that it was done by firefighters, as usually they are the persons who knows about such dangers. But not in this case, it seems they are stupid enough even to breath in the toxic fumes.

And life po4 is a great toxic smoke bomb substitute

Conclusion: GWL is a no good company that is taking our rights to own batteries that can spontaneously combust

For me, it's a source for death smoke, and oh, the smell of fire

@@CarLoverPhotography naaa ,not enough smoke

The thing you are holding is also a firecrackers

lol when you cut that lithium pouch : "the bomb has been planted"

Wow. Close call for sure. Hope your hand was alright!

I'm just genuinely curious... you're screen door has a key lock on it? And why is the lock on the wrong side? Lmao

@@huntzkush LOL

That screen door is almost certainly a fire code violation. A point of egress must not lock to the inside without a readily available means of unlocking it.

I actually put my ebike battery inside the stove when I charge it.

Tesla always shows their power wall bank things outside the house in all their images for this reason

Maybe all EV batteries should have a fireproof chimney. Just in case.

we make battery bunkers for charging lipo batteries in the FPV RC drone hobby. its a fireproof brick stove, with a battery charger inside... our 6s 1500mah batteries could burn a house to the ground.

Exactly. Li-PoL are very common because of their form factor compared to that of the others. You may say that they're super dangerous, but that's if you're excluding modern circuitry that commonly comes with said batteries effectively eliminating almost all of the risks. Similar way to Nuclear Power in a way. It is arguably one of the cleanest and most efficient energy production methods. Modern plants have many safety features making a meltdown very very unlikely. But due to it being also one of the most horrible disasters if it does go horribly wrong, a few accidents have put a bad taste in many people's mouths.

@Stratos Fear Nuclear power is safe if you follow proper guidelines too :) Jokes aside, nuclear power is the most efficient source of energy right now and also one of the cleanest at the same time. Sure there is nuclear waste, but there are reactors in development that can use said waste as fuel. The most used power plants are still coal ones and they are much worse ecologically than the nuclear ones. Not even mentioning that by burning coal, there are radioactive particles released into the air.

@Stratos Fear how about Hanford?

@@BloPsy__ So why does everyone wanna get rid of nuclear power and cover everything in PV panels?

@@mode3763 Because of the "very smart" people that fear the Nuclear energy. Germany is great example. They had shut down their nuclear power plants, yet their renewable energy sources aren't sufficient enough for the country. They are buying energy from other countries - that energy is mostly produced by coal and nuclear power plants. For example, Czechia is the one country that is selling it's energy to Germany. And Czechs do not want to shut down their nuclear power plants even tho there are a lot of protests from their neighbours. They even plan on upgrading the existing powerplants to get more energy, because they know that coal will once dry up and nuclear is only viable option in this part of the world. Solar panels are utopian dream that will cost huge amount of money and will pollute our planet a lot if everyone will really switch to that. Not even mentioning the need of some sort of energy storage for winters, bad weather times etc. It will be probably huge battery banks, which will only last for few decades since you know, batteries, that will pollute our world so much, that those "very smart" people will regret not trusting Nuclear energy.

LiPol are mostly used in RC devices like planes and cars where performance is the most important (energy density and power density) safety is not a high priority in this application.

Cell phones

What's their casw against it?

@@chrisE815they are extremely sensitive to cold temperatures, but that’s about the only major issue with it

Lifepo is cold resistant actually, their drawback is lesser energy density afaik ​@@chrisE815

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Everyone should know about the occult and the evil in this world. And batteries are the main source. They're not allowed in hell because they're far too evil for hell that's why we have them here. Repent.

Good points. LTO have less than half the Wattage-density and are lower voltage too. They also have a more stable voltage loss during discharge, which is great for output usage but makes measuring their charge percentage less accurate.

@@JasonJrake Uh... LTO has a higher cell voltage than LFP. It does have lower Watt (VoltAmp) density. Will Prowse has a nice comparison of LFP to LTO here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7Vyhtt21r65gZc.html

@@kayzinti4452 I’ve seen that video and I’m not sure what you are referring to. The lowest listed nominal ratings i found online: for LTO is 2.4v, for LFP it’s 3.2v. Maybe cells arranged into 12+ volt stacks are higher voltage in LTO though, if that’s what you mean. The rule of thumb for lithium chemistries is that: As nominal voltage goes down, Discharge voltage slope flattens, Functional Temp range increases, Watt-hour density decreases, Safety increases.

Been around for many years, but you don't find them in consumer products because normal li-ion cells have much higher energy density. Apparently, LTO cells are best used in orbital satellites, where they have to endure many thousands of charge-discharge cycles and have an extremely long calendar life.

LTO isn't very common due being rather large & expensive compared to other chemistries. But it's by far one of the safest and most reliable chemistries out there.

ur crazy

@@UREALERO Jealous.

huh ? isnt lipo use for RC only ? battery bank is li- ion

@@sdqsdq6274 Nope,li-ion means it have liquid electrolyte,li-po have solid electrolyte.There are LFP batteries that can be li-po a the same time

Even with LiFePo4, I'd want my solar farm's batteries to be in a concrete box, away from any combustible structures.

Nope this is just a marketing scheme to show lipo as a ticking time bomb

More like half of a satellite's RCS thruster, but still a rocket.

LTO cells are supposed to be good for an enormous number of cycles and have an extremely long calendar life. The have lower energy density (store less energy for their size & weight) than either conventional li-ion or LiFeP04 cells.

Yeah. Breathing smoke and vapors from something burning is one of the fastest ways to get poisoned. I was surprised at how few who were standing so close had no face protection.

Thats why outdoors and probably upstream of wind. Fire protection was enough, however eyewear is a must

I agree. More - This type of test is manipulated because LiFePO4 Cells will burn and blow up, too - if they are fully or overcharged! The smoke is burnable to! With this video you "fake" Security. This video is cut very forward to sell products.

@@ElectrifiedStud most definitely a battery lead flying in the eye is most un cool.

@@jasonpotter4880 kind of like the DDT add from the 50s with a girl eating a hamburger while they sprayed DDT on her to prove how safe it is. She died rest her soul.

samsung note 7 have bad batteries not bad construction. learn and stop talking shit

It's packaged with screw terminals due to the high current rating for LTO batteries.

That doesn´t work. when batteries get older, they also lose voltage. Thus your LFP-cell no longer reaches 3.3 Volt, but e.g. 3.1 volt only for each cell. See? Or even 3 volts only. That is natural aging of batteries in general btw. so that is NOT an advantage, since you cannot use a device with batteries and put no voltage-regulator in it, without thinking over what happens when your battery reaches an age of e.g. 1 year or 5 years. This is when people mean a typical modern LiPo-battery will reach 80% of performance after about 1000 cycles. This means you lose 20% voltage as well. And this means, your battery no longer reaches 4.2 volts but instead (-20% => 10% = 0.42 volts here) you only get your battery to charge until 4.2 - 0.8 = 3.4 volts only. But this is in theory only, since each battery operates differently and normally each device uses multiple cells to reach higher voltages. So assuming you have a 3-cell setup (3 cells á 4.2 volts) = typical 12V-li-Po battery that means instead of reaching 12.6 volts, you now only reach about 12 Volts only. And 12 volts equals 80% of capacity here. At 10 Volts (equals 3.3 volts for each cell) your battery is at nearly 0% load so it´s EMPTY.

And find some LiFePo4 cells small enough to fit in a power bank while still providing a useful capacity

@Murphy deffa or lose half again and opt for LTO lol, thats what im doing, cause id rather have to lug around a huge battery than worry about my 200wh+ behemoth bursting into flames or a cloud of lethal smoke if something out of my control happened. cell level fusing and smart BMSs with extra failsafes are great and all but if something happens out of your control that bypasses those, some total black swan event you could never have seen coming, i dont know man but to me it seems worth it even if my phone will feel like carryign around a VHS tape...

@@doooofus i think it'll be bigger and heavier than a vhs tape. Just carry around a hand crank charger if you're so worried about your powerbank exploding. 🗿

@@aivarsaar Well you can do a away with a lot of cooling and make prismatic cells, gaining back about 20% of the capacity. Also they lose capacity slower, so after 5-6 years it will start closer together. On top of that, you can use then with both more and less charge, doing 0-100% instead of 20-85% in daily driving, while true, on long drives, the range will be shorter

Just a little bit :)

We are based in Czech (EU), we do ship to Canada.

Thats a great question but wtf this question is so dumb

@@geometrikselfelsefesi What do you mean dumb? Which part of my question looks dumb to you?

@@ahnafpiash i can sleep in peace! idk but funny question ok sorry

@@ahnafpiash we all know kids who play baldi wtf that game name are brainless

Why though

Just increase the ampere.

@@kiranranjitkar2748 That’s not how it works.

Can get overcharge fire at about 5.2V/ LiPo cell, maybe less. Guess how I figured that....

It is not li po it is li ion battery

I guess the li po by far

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Sad how much amp hours?

Yea. They’re wearing protective clothes, but most way to close with no eye protection. Better off wearing tee shirts and safety glasses

The gases and fumes are extremely toxic! This ist NO steam....the electrolyte in the battery dissolves and releases in certain circumstances HF gas. Furthermore, the gas is flammable as you see. I repeat: inhaling those fumes is very dangerous 😞

Hello, we've covewred this in the following episode: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9aUgc6I2J7Hn3k.html

i guess they are similar

@@tablet4170 nope.

LiPo are also available in round cells, so it is probably what they claimed. You cannot judge that by looking at the video.

How can you tell ..? LiPo exist in cylindrical package ...

It is the same technology on a different package. Both are based on the LiCoO2 chemistry. As an aside, the "Li-ion" designation covers many chemistries, including LiFePO4, but generically refers to the LiCoO2 chemistry.