A good theory for today happy 4/20

Hamann is not the spoon boy. The kid in Reloaded brought Neo the spoon and said "a gift from one of the orphans" so he had to get it from the spoon boy, not Hamann

I want to see kid come back. His story is more significant than what is led on I think.

Seraph needs to be in the Matrix 4.. simply because hes a badass and i want to see some awesome Martial Arts!🥋

if Hammon was spoonboy, and working for the oracle, he'd know more about Neo's abilities than he says he does.

What if... Harmon IS the Oracle like how Bane was Smith? After all, something Smith saw when he assimilated the Oracle made him laugh. We assume he’s seeing his final victory, but what if he saw she was more like him than he thought.

Been thinking this for quite a while myself, makes sense. And we all know there's no such thing as coincidence in The Matrix. The Spoon Boy is one of my favorite characters in the franchise, would love to see him make another appearance.

"Kid: Neo! Just in time. You’re gonna see the Oracle, aren’t you? Morpheus: We don’t have time. Kid: I’m sorry, sir, I just have to give something to Neo. A gift from one of the orphans. He made me swear to get it to you before you left. He said you’d understand. Neo: Thanks." from one of the orphans. specifically the meaning of this term applies to children under 18 who have lost their parents, but it has also been applied as a general meaning to also refer to adults who have lost their parents. Of course, in the real world from the matrix films, there likely are many who have lost their parents due to trying to awaken them from the matrix, or maybe they will not awaken, and stay connected. Anyway, in the context of that dialogue the implication is there are actually not many in zion that are orphaned. So it remains possible that Hamann was that one too, because I can more easily envision a more aged adult to 'swear to get [spoon] to [neo]', and that neo would understand. It clicks for me, since we got to witness dialogue between the hamann character and neo, so it seems like 'something hamann would say', and its funny how I never noticed it before! However, his RSI shows up [if hes the spoon boy] as a child in the matrix, and, we never saw in any of the films, any real world appearance of a character differ from their RSI - but we do via the comics. It will be interesting to see if this type of differing image, will be shown in matrix 4 [whatever title its given]. Another interesting thing here, is, Neo was on his way to see the oracle. In fact, Kid seemed to 'know' this, could it have been because Hamann told kid, thats where he was headed?

I often wondered how the spoon got to "real world" this connects so many dots.

I really need this gift. I never won any single prize in my life, I swear.I would only be happy about anything of Matrix and your channel ❤️❤️❤️❤️

this theory has no hard proof or connections, its just speculation.

Merovingian and Persephone. There's so much that hasn't been explained. They are like the underworld of the Matrix with substantial power to change the course of events.

epic conversation HAMMON: THAT IS CORRECT HAMMON: OF COURSE

My mind has been blown yet again! Good work mate 👍

I thought this a while back so am glad I wasnt the only one. Thank you for another great video.

I've been leaning this way for a little while. Everything fits. But it's still just a theory.

Man, I wish I had said something; I asked myself the same question first I heard you note the original intention to have “Switch” be of different genders in & out of the Matrix, and almost said it again during you spoon boy feature, where I drew a connection between him & Sati, two bridges between the real & the machine world). Good push.

Wooooow this is a bomb man !didn't expect this! coool

Wow! Cool theory! Well-thought-out and conceived through rational observation and thorough evaluation. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Plot twist: Lana Wachowski is the Intuitive Program, and by creating the whole Matrix franchise and pushing it to the mainstream consciusness, she made us acquainted with the very idea of the Matrix integrating it in our subconscious as "fiction" or "thought experiment", and therefore less likely to break free. This franchise is therefore, another form of control.

I think that there is one flaw in this theory. Kid gives a spoon to Neo in the real world saying that it was one of the orphans that gives it to him adding that Neo would understand. So it seems that the spoonboy it's really a child after all...

100% would love to see Kid come back. His story was never really told to the extent that it should have been.

I am really interested in knowing what is Sati's destiny for real and why the oracle is so interested in her. I definitely wanna see her back on this new production.

this theory is just awesome. really interesting perspective on who spoonboy might actually be in the real world.

Consider this parallelism that suggests Hamann is the Spoonboy. In the first movie, the Spoonboy delivered the spoon along with advice to Neo before seeing the Oracle. In the second movie, Hamann delivered the spoon (through Kid) along with advice to Neo (the night before) seeing the Oracle. In both instances, Hamann (Spoonboy) prepped Neo prior to his meeting the Oracle. Additionally, Hamann made it possible for Neo to return to the Oracle in the second movie. If Hamann had not intervened to allow the Nebuchadnezzar to leave Zion, then Neo could not have seen the Oracle.

2 issues 1 when the kid delivered spoon in reloaded - he specifically said it came from one the orphans 2 broadcast depth - Zion is not in range to transmit into the matrix - there’s no way he could run the city and go on trips to regularly jack into the matrix

i wonder if the oracle could infect people the way smith does, maybe hamann could be the oracle too

wow. I'm not sure why, but this one hit me harder than most Matrix theory videos. I think this is right. And it's amazing.

I want to see the Oracle return. I’d like to see a battle between humanity and the Oracle, as humanity realizes all the stuff you’ve brought up in your videos.

I've seen almost all your video's. And I believe every word you say. 'nuff said.

The first matrix movie made, basically blew their wald to soon. It is said that the matrix was never ment to be a trilogy and I can believe that. I believe it because the first matrix felt so rushed to resolve Neo's story in the first movie. I just wish they would have slowed down and wrote a more cohesive story and maybe even made the Matrix into a 6 part story akin to Star Wars. I'm sure no one here would have complained about having the matrix be our Star Wars for our generation. I personally would have loved for the matrix movies to keep coming out until the day I die. Watching the characters grow old would have been a glorious thing.....instead we get a rushed story then shoe horned in sequels and then a 15 year gap in movies to then pick up God knows where. Can't this world do anything perfect? Why does this world have to be so jaggid and mysterious.....The spanish burned the Mayen's books all but erasing their history from the world. The Egyptians destroying the history of the people that really built the pyramids. The Roman's who thought it was a great idea to kill gods only son. The mysterious research of Nickola Tesla. Why must this world be so broken!! The 2 world wars!! On and on I could go. You think the first humans would have continued to have children if they knew the horrors and mysteries their offspring would have to indure in the future? To be born a man on the Earth is a cruel punishment to bestow on to no one. I am 37 years old and have no plans on bringing any life to this twisted hell hole of an existence. Even the thought of one day traveling in space sounds cool but upon further inspection it's just another jail cell. Our bodies are jail cells of our souls destined to do a life sentence stuck here in the 3D cage prison where the only escape is death. Sorry about the exstisential crisis but give me a break.

Seraph! Cause i wanna see him battle!

the question I have now is would Kid lie to Neo on behalf of Hamann? Kid Loves Neo much that I don't see it happening outright. Subterfuge would be needed on hamanns part. "too many secrets"

Naw. The oracle knows the role of the one. I bet all of Neo's predecessors had trouble sleeping and nightmares too. It's part of the code of the one.

wouldn't it make sense then for when neo was given the spoon for the kid to say that hamann gave him the spoon to give to neo?

Another good piece of evidence to support this theory would be Kid giving Neo the spoon before he departed. It would explain how whoever gave the spoon to kid would know exactly when he was leaving and the significance of it. Very cool and well explained theory. This videos are helping to rekindle our interests in these films just in time for the 4th film. I really hope Morpheus returns in one form or another. His undying commitment to saving Zion, even if it was misguided at times, was admirable.

Ok, ok,ok....officially mind blown lol would love to see spoon boy comeback as a permanent program of the matrix construct after the elder passes away. The program spoon boy leaving a msg and origin to the elder for Neo would be a great reveal moment.

The Keymaker will return with a new shell!!!

This is really mind blowing

It would be great if seraph returned. He is my favourite character. Maybe we will learn something about the first matrix

Oooh this is a good one

This works well, but with the primary problem that Hamann has no access to the Matrix. He's an elder. He can't simply sneak off and plug in.

4:37 Too many ones... 🤣

I have a theory that councillor Hamann could be the Oracle in human form. If Smith could gain the ability to take control of a human body, Bane, then perhaps other powerful programs could have too, such as the Oracle, perhaps she took control of Hamann's body, and that's how she knows things like Neo having trouble sleeping, since he had earlier told Hamann that. She had the ability to gain a new shell, so perhaps that's part of the ability to take over other forms, that one naturally comes with the other. The way that Hamann talks to Neo about the way the machines need us and we need them is very similar to what the Oracle says when talking about the future.

Potentials (occasionally confused with Redpills[1]) were humans who had started to reject the Matrix to some extent, but were not yet fully awakened. Some had abilities within the Matrix, while others perhaps simply witnessed something they couldn't explain and were under threat from Agents as a result. Freed children were still called potentials during testing to see if they had what it took to one day become fully fledged operatives, as they were only able to join a hovercraft crew at the age of seventeen[2]. As the Canon is explained this way it would imply that the Potentials are children not yet 17 who were starting to break free of the Matrix or were already freed. Even Kid brings the Neo the Spoon and says it is from "one of the orphans he made me promise to get it to you" So I do not think this theory holds much strength but still it is interesting to imagine the Elder going back into the Matrix and using the Avatar of his 11 year old self when he was freed.

i always thought hamaan was an agent of the machines OR a survivor of the most previous version....

I would love to see the stories of the other ones.Would be interesting.

Great Theory

Would that make him Spoon man? Come together with your plan. Save me!

I wish Warner Bros will one day authorize a Matrix Prequel working titled Matrix Prophecy based on the 5th iteration of the one that died.

The character I really like to see in „Matrix 4“ would be The Oracle. She is always so warm, wise, and welcoming. I like this all-knowing little smile on her face. The additional important thing about her: She usually has some sweets for you, when you visit her. I'd like to meet her, bake cookies and hear more of the wisdom she has to offer us.

you made me think about this resently lmao

What I love the most is these allow us to free our mind

You might be right, this is a great idea 💡.

I would (also) love to see The Oracle returning. This naughty "lady" has some explaining to do about her "dangerous game" and the role she planned for Sati after the truce. This is undoubtedly a double wish since it requires her opposite to appear to make everything more coherent and well-sustained. I'm talking about The Architect of course. No point in watching the Ying without the Yang!

Hammond also wears that pendent like monks would

My Answer Stands still currently with “Spoon boy Or Sati..... but Sparks ⚡️ might be cool too!

I noticed that there are 5 other spoons in front of Spoonboy all bent, the 6th one he unbends. 6 anomalies, 6 spoons.

The oracle doesn't need a spy to know such things

I would like to see the mérovingiens because of the theory of the 1ers one😁

Mind. Blown. Like........ Holy crap.......

It's a nice theory. However I don't think Hannon is the spoon boy. I believe we'll see the actual spoon boy in the new film, and Hannon will be there too.

Maybe they can manipulate the dream state, at least for the red pills. A remote back door. Wireless connections to give us dreams guiding the illusion of choice.

"Old men like me dont bother with making points. There's no point." "Is that why there's no young men in the council'" "Good point." Hamann really changed his mind pretty fast about making points has a old men after Neo asked why there werent young people on the council. Maybe he could be the spoon boy based on his reaction to Neo about there isn't no young men in Zion's council of elders. Maybe all elders have there residual self-images inside the Matrix.

The Spoon boy appears 11 in the Matrix because that was the age Hamann was when he left. Plus, they have similar regional accents, changed over 50 years for Hamann. Fun theory, hope they give us some answers.

I just read a theory that the "real world" is just another matrix, and the red pills are machines learning more about human interaction. That's why Agent Smith is able to use Bane to go into the "real world" cuz it's another matrix or a second level of the matrix, if u will. And that also explains why Neo was able to use his power to stop that sentinel at the end of Reloaded. This is first time I hear about this, and it sounds interesting, but if that's the case, then what is this next one gonna be? They finally wake up in the "real-real world" and they wake up to year 2021, and say, "OH HELL NO! Plug me back in!!"???

Imagine a universe where the matrix was a 1 hour 10 episodes series. instead of 1999 - 2004 ---big gap --- 2021. I say this coz we just needed more screen time. But matrix will still hold as one of the best films at the dawn of the 21st century.

A character I’d like to see return in Matrix 4 is the Trainman. He is all powerful in his realm and I want to see how he can transport people or programs in the new movie and any changes he may have made to his process and construct.

Spoonboy, in hopes of hearing Spoonman on the soundtrack.

Would love to see the Twins (the ghosts) from Matrix Loaded back in the new movie - their "power of intangibility" (passing through physical objects such as floors or gunfire, float through the air, and instantly reset any physical damage to their bodies or clothing) was very cool and a great set up for action sequences.

This underestimates the oracle. She knew that Neo would brake the vase. She didnt need a spy to tell her. She risked her own life because she had seen that she would (probably?) come back. She needs no spy to tell her that Neo isnt sleeping. Kid says he promised one of the orphans to get Neo the spoon. If the promise was made to an orphan it was probably made in the matrix. f it was made outside of the matrix it wasnt made to Haman.

I’ve official had my minnd blown!🤯

6:28 on the idea of the vid to further it's point the Oracle being in contact with a member of the Zion High council would definitively make her in tune with human "feelings".

I can buy working with the oracle. Spoonboy is a stretch though

Second!!! And Yes I totally thought so too!!!! This totally has to be!

Aahh... I just knew that Hamann had something to do with the oracle, The One, and the "innerds" of the Matrix. Commented on another vid that maybe he was the 5th ONE, but it was pointed out to me that the years /ages didn't add up. Which is totally true. This theory totally works for me... 😂

I was thinking the same thing

Teaspoon is the spoon boy, interesting theory!

With the brain implants a person is fiorever connected to (born in) The Matrix via WiFi/blutooth, even after being physically disconnected. The Oracle can still read brain data or brain waves of Neo or anyone that were once physically connected

Doubtful.. How does Hamann jack into the Matrix? I don't recall any tech in Zion to do that (Plus why would you interface the Matrix directly inside a network that's been confirmed to be locked out by access codes so the machines can't hack in) and I doubt he was out on a hovercraft to be there on the same day Neo met the oracle to play Spoon boy also considering it was the same Matrix trip that ended up with Cyper's betrayal.

I always thought he could well be the 'One' before Neo.

previous video you said the oracle implanted that in Neo head

I wanna see the women in the red dress return...she could be used at the end of the matrix 4 with a new "the one" a predecessor of neo...

8:42 I'm surprised you didn't mention! I don't know what age spoonboy is Bahamas said he was freed at age 11! That means that when he was last in the matrix he was a child. It makes sense to his residual self image might be that of a child! A precocious child if he was deemed to be a potential…

Im gonna re watch tomorrow see if there any shred of where kid got the spoon

keep up the hustle. and I wanna see roy jones jr back because his fighting was better than neos.

I would love to see the Merovingian henchmen, the ghostly-looking twins return in Matrix 4 because they can be a complete storyline all by themselves based on their special abilities. Seeing them in action for the trailer of Matrix Re-loaded was the selling point that piqued the interest of everyone. Their unique abilities especially during the highway scene when one of the twins orbed himself into an approaching vehicle with his back turn, stamped itself into my mind with increased anticipation leading up to the opening day of Re-Loaded

That's a compelling theory.

After seeing Sati...I wonder if the kids she keeps are even human. Maybe there all exiled programs.

Don't forget when the Architect offers Neo to select people to start the New Zion, the little boy might have been someone Neo selected in a past reboot and he grew to become the old man.

He said he was 11 when he was awakened. The spoonboy had to be about that age.

I think Hamann is one of the predecessors. As for the others...Seraph. Merovingian. The Train dude. &... the Architect.

£Gift from The Oprhans" or "gift from the orphans" - big difference in meaning and *we dont knowhich it is* (I love the matrix, 30 years and its still dropping nuggets :D )

I would like to see Cypher in Matrix 4. But this time as a very famous contemporary philosopher. The machines reinserted it. With the aim of keeping the majority of society happy with the simulation.

Neo is just a program made by the oracle to learn more about humans..she upgrades him when ever they meet..candy cookies...the tracker pill morpheus gave him so she can track what he's doing and make sure he's doing what she wants him to do

I been saying I want to see spoon boy return. This would be awesome to see confirmed in 4.

Interesting theory....

well, that makes sense

Interesting theory.

Seraph with other fight with Neo ;p