Harbor Freight Tools EXPOSED! ICON Tools Double Box End Ratcheting Wrenches Review
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00:00:00 - Intro
0:46 - Tool Showcase
00:57 - Review Starts
01:36 - Advantages
02:10 - Demonstration
03:16 - Harbor Freight Exposed
03:35 - Other Rebrands
05:00 - Kabo tools Patents
07:33 - Overview
08:25 - Should you buy?
09:33 - In Closing
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ATTENTION HARBOR FREIGHT SHILLS AND FANBOYS... WATCH TO END before you comment! This is a review of Harbor Freight Tools newer ICON double box end ratcheting wrench set and halfway through this video I EXPOSE who actually designed these icon wrenches and where else you can find them.
Harbor Freight tools made a big splash when they first dropped these new ICON tools several months back. It started with harbor freight giving youtubers free Icon tool sets in exchange for good reviews. From there it quickly escalated into guys on youtube getting free $5000 Icon toolboxes all for the sake of a good video review. I don't know about you, free tools are one thing, but when a company starts handing out FREE ICON toolboxes... SOMETHING IS UP.
We all know Harbor freight Isn't giving these toolboxes away out of the kindness of their heart but how is any of that supposed to help you guys decide if these ICON wrenches are for you? So today I'm going to tell you the truth about ICON tools and ICON wrenches. I'm not on the take from ICON tools or Harbor Freight tools so were going to see what a guy who's not on Harbor Freight tools payroll, ICON tools payroll, or doesn't constant push Harbor Freight videos all day, thinks about this ICON tools wrench set.
Harbor Freight exposed! ICON Tools Double Box End Ratcheting Wrenches Review
@user-xe9ue2jr2w 3 жыл бұрын
You've researched this a lot. I know others have said stuff similar about this but putting together all of it together,thank you.
@gregc9220 3 жыл бұрын
I been replacing a lot of my old and worn craftsman tools with ICON, for the price and having a harbor freight 15 miles from me it's my best option, so far I haven't broken a socket or wrench yet, harbor freight is the new Sears in my opinion.
@thebackwoodsmechanic5029 3 жыл бұрын
They are much like the new Sears, but Tekton has some of the best quality compared to the old Craftsman . I haven't personally tried any Icon yet
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
If it was made in Taiwan, it was made by Kabo. They make Blue Point, Pittsburgh Pro, ICON, Tekton, Capri, Carlyle, Titan, and a bunch of other brands. ICON has a premium baked in the price though.
@Amish234 3 жыл бұрын
Until it's made back here in America then it ain't truly like Craftsman back then. SK and Wright have a better claim to being the new Craftsman than HF
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
@@Amish234 SK and Wright were always far superior to Craftsman, why would you say they've now sunk in quality to be "the new craftsman"?
@Amish234 3 жыл бұрын
New as in they're not as expensive as Snap-On yet still Made in the US. I don't count even Taiwanese rebrands as good as old USA Craftsman because it's an insult to the affordable yet quality American made product that's been lost to offshoring
@anthonymascolo5519 3 жыл бұрын
Garnett is the best tool detective on you tube! He gets to the bottom of everything
@JTsRepairs 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I like the research you showed. I have had these wrenches for months and love them. I have not had to warranty one yet, but based on previous HF warranty issues, its an easy process. Bring the broken tool in for an exchance. With the warranty HF offers, these are the best value IMO. Great work. Keep sharing great vids.
@GearHeadsGarageChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, you put a lot of work in and it shows. I have the Monster/Mountain version of these and have been very happy with them, was going to do a video myself on the subject but about a different issue I have with their sets. You covered a lot of things I never even thought about! Good job and keep getting after it brother.
@bigpappahemi4263 3 жыл бұрын
You spared no effort to make this great review! Thank you, Sir!
@thebackwoodsmechanic5029 3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed information , which allows everyone to make a choice that fits them the best . Now they can now compare prices, warranty, Availability and know who truly manufactured & designed the tool.
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support, this is absolutely why I provide information like this.
@IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13 3 жыл бұрын
I have been incredibly happy with all of my ICON purchases so far. I had my rollaway stolen years ago full of old american made craftsman professional and snapon tools. Ever since I had been working out of a box of mismatched junk tools. Now I am buying up all the ICON I can afford. I have all the standard depth sockets and the combination wrenches and the comfort grip rachets and 1/2 inch breaker bar. No problems yet. Now I am gonna start buying all the deep sockets
@IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy the blow molded trays they come in also. Once I buy a few more things though the trays will have to go because they Rob so much space in my drawers and I mostly work out of a tech cart
@littlejackalo5326 Жыл бұрын
@@IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13 not blow molded. It's vacuum molded.
@IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13 Жыл бұрын
@@littlejackalo5326 you are totally correct. I used to work on injection molding machines and know my plastic processes well just mis spoke
@travis19908 3 жыл бұрын
My hf told me if it breaks bring the tool in and they will give me a new one no questions
@joelpittman2977 3 жыл бұрын
Damn dude, I’m watching this like... this kid might be brilliant! Keep up the good work homie!
@donaldhollums3278 3 жыл бұрын
For my OCD I would have to go with the Carlyle to augment my other Carlyle tools.
@singlespeedman 3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@mos8541 3 жыл бұрын
augmented OCD... does that mean you are your OWN enabler? just curious as I'm my OWN role model
@TomGunnTools 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video, love the in depth review!
@andrewasaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Easily the best video on these “Mountain” wrenches (that’s what most people seem to know them as) that I’ve seen. And I’m a dealer tech, and have been using the Icon versions daily for 6 months. I haven’t had to warranty any... yet.
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! appreciate the love! and like I said I've only had to warranty the one!
@ronrice2249 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I have caught your video, and I like it because it is very informative. I am a regular customer of Harbor Freight, so this was of special interest to me. I don't like their policy of requiring the original receipt and they only give you 90 days. As long as the item has their company's SKU number they know that it came from one of their stores, but that isn't their policy unfortunately. My son and I bought a Cen-Tech battery charger and a jump starter and paid over $100 for both pieces. They both quit working after 1 use and we didn't have the original receipt. I no longer buy that type of tool from them. Looking forward to future videos.
@BillLaBrie 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of a centec charger that didn’t fail soon after purchase. Been through three of them myself. Gave up and bought a 30 year old used one at a yard sale. No problems for the last 3 years.
@littlejackalo5326 Жыл бұрын
Give them your phone number to store all of your purchases. No need to keep receipts.
@jthomos21 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. Keep up the good work. I still like my 1980s Craftsman box end wrenches. Honestly I have been adding Tekton and Gearwrench to my tool box lately.
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud, will do. Tekton as well seems like a very high quality option and Gearwrench more cost effective.
@jthomos21 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarnettTools I just subscribed with notifications on, so I can see more honest reviews. I am a fan of harbor Freight tools but definitely not a fanboy.
@markiefufu 3 жыл бұрын
I use my Craftsman double box ends from the eighties too. I'm starting to use Capri wrenches now and love those too. My China Craftsman combo ratcheting wrenches are crap and they do nothing but take up space in my tool box.
@StilettoSniper 3 жыл бұрын
Nice comment, I also purchased my core set of tools from Craftsman back in the late 70s and early 80s. All USA made combination wrenches, six point sockets and teardrop and round head ratchets, 1/4 3/8 1/2. Still have them all and use them today. Although I have added a lot hand tools from Gearwrench, Tekton, Sunex, Capri Tools, Proto, SK, Carlyle, Williams, and some others. Not really big on HF, although their Pittsburgh Pro impact sockets have not failed me yet.
@scrambler350 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the 'Mountain' brand version of these on Amazon this summer in Metric and Standard - recommended by the 'Car Wizard'.
@HeathInHeath Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison. It's good information and useful to know how the Icon compares to other brands.
@martinschaffmeir7729 3 жыл бұрын
Great research sir. I have been pleasantly surprised by the Carlyle tools i have. I often over look them tho when making my purchase
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I also LIKE many Carlyle tools, I don't think people give them much credit.
@andybub45 2 жыл бұрын
Those double flex wrenches are a MUST HAVE if you are a tech!
@Jaspel 3 жыл бұрын
There's a place for guys who want to stop at NAPA or HF to get a quick swap on such a fragile but useful wrench. I appreciate having more than one retailer/reseller/brand to induce competition. Even when they come out of the same place. These oem reveal videos of yours on popular tools are great. Any chance you can go over the Dewalt hand tools like ratchets and combo (non ratcheting) wrenches?
@spamnelsonhere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing the research! Very much appreciated to help me make a buying decision.
@jhatchet9631 2 жыл бұрын
great review ! keep them coming . I really can appreciate the honesty ..... more please
@JimmyMakingitwork 3 жыл бұрын
I have the mountain and GearWrench versions of these tools, all have worked great and been pretty strong. The 19mm was just warrantied out by my GearWrench guy, lucky to have a truck that comes in, it began to jam and not ratchet after 2 years use.
@eric63377 Жыл бұрын
I would buy GearWrench over Icon or Pittsburgh or any of the tools from Hazard Fraud.
@im2yys4u81 Жыл бұрын
@@eric63377 The issue with GearWrench is the time it takes to get a replacement under warranty. Best I know they don't have any local stores.
@patrickwolfe6604 3 жыл бұрын
You really did your homework for this presentation! Thank you.
@Joseph-vj2ph 3 жыл бұрын
I find skips in sets is a deal breaker for me. I thought Icon said no skips in sets. So annoying when you don't have the size you need and you can't buy individual at Harbor Freight.
@FrankieJames7 3 жыл бұрын
it is sad but they are counting on you to not need to use these sets because they are a specialty item, most bolts should be able to be gotten off or on with a regular wrench or ratchet. the matco set has skips as well
@dalepres1 3 жыл бұрын
Skips, and especially unavailable skips, are always a deal breaker for me. I want to know what tool to grab for any job and not have one tool for 9mm and another tool for 10 mm, etc.
@hunterXhamster 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think ive ever used a 9mm for anything
@Volksoner619 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterXhamster I know I have at least once and found it very odd. 20 mm is another weird one. F250 factory rancho shock stem is 20mm. You don’t need it till you do.
@HifiVega 3 жыл бұрын
I like the perspective on this set. I’ve almost pulled the trigger on these several times, but never can lol.
@_MOORE_1986 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see HF is selling higher quality tools and boxes now. I told the cashier guy there that I could never work there, cause my checks would already be spent before payday even came around.
@nordicpride9708 Жыл бұрын
These ICONS (Kabo) are some of the best quality in this range I’ve seen for the money spent! And that’s from a Snap On guy. Tools vary greatly between types. People need to be more open minded. For me I like most ICON stuff and it performs well. For ratchets I still love Snap on and for sockets KOKEN Japan 🇯🇵 all day and twice on Sunday.
@chrissargent2603 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome details! Love the research you did on them.
@TheRealSlowhand 3 жыл бұрын
Very good review, thorough and detailed... Thank you...
@AdriftAndAtPeace323 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Should be noted that Cornwell also has these wrenches. I recently unloaded my mountain ones just strictly for ease of warranty.
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support bud! I tried looking up Cornwell versions because I know they use Kabo as well but I couldn't find a listing on their website which may be a little out dated.
@darrenporsch 2 жыл бұрын
The wrenches have a lifetime warranty there's no way they're going to make you bring them a receipt. You could give him a phone number but if you didn't buy them say someone else bought them for you as a gift it's not going to come up under the phone number you give them. Harbor freight is supposedly really good with their warranty like Sears used to be just bring them in and I'll give you another one from off the shelf
@mikeblaszczak5346 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, we *don't* know these are identical. They look the same, but small changes can be made. The AIT tools had a different ratchet gear, for example. And they can be manufactured with different metals, tolerances, and processes.
@_P0tat07_ 3 жыл бұрын
Great point about the engineering, or lack there of! I knew companies rebrand products, but when you said there was no mention of the tools being designed by icon in usa, that’s so true. Never thought about the packaging or engraving etc.
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you gotta watch those shady, highly educated marketing people!!! I've seen Mad Men, I know what they're capable of!
@andrewmiller5145 3 жыл бұрын
Sir you have a great information video I subscribed now I am not surprised that those wrenches are the same as the others just with another me stamped
@cleanairdude 3 жыл бұрын
Best tool review I have seen I a while!
@jake-mv5oi 3 жыл бұрын
These are on my Christmas list. I want them over the mountains for the warranty. Heard stories of mountains being very difficult to warranty.
@nathanielmurphy-baird1972 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate love the tool videos 1 question though would you have any clue where dayona tools are made?
@ABH313 3 жыл бұрын
This deserves a sub...thanks for the research and information 👍
@donaldhollums3278 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ya “Skipper”!
@ABH313 3 жыл бұрын
@@donaldhollums3278 LMAO, I've been called that my whole life. I have the same middle name too...almost like my parents did it on purpose
@donaldhollums3278 3 жыл бұрын
@@ABH313 my Dad always called me Donald Duck!
@ABH313 3 жыл бұрын
@@donaldhollums3278 lol parents...
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Much appreciated!
@colinklang 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid! New sub Not surprised to find that the chinesium discount tool super store is using the same manufacturer as other tools that cost 2x as much or more. I'm no pro so harbor freight provides me with everything I could want or need at my budget. If I were using them daily then I would be willing to pay more for a tool that can take the abuse.
@billytitlepa 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a licensed auto mechanic.. I like the professional review.. Keep up the good work..
@lamarnewson9732 Жыл бұрын
It isn't easy to give thumbs up to Harbor Freight, but the video was well thought out with a non-bias description. I found Harbor freight tools when in need, just are not there and it is a pain to return the tool and the same thing breaks again almost insane hoping the new replacement is going to work this time.
@afgdoncorleone4010 3 жыл бұрын
Great research thank you for taking the time..
@jakemartinez2525 Жыл бұрын
The most important thing to remember about harbor freight is that they are NOT a manufacturer; they are a distributor. They find generic Chinese and Taiwanese manufactured tools (not always a bad thing) and they rebrand and sell them at a markup for the marketing and warranty. They’re in business to make money, there’s nothing wrong with that, if you do your research you can find Icon branded tools on Amazon or elsewhere for significantly cheaper but then good luck with trying to warranty a broken tool. Because of how harbor freight operates, some of their tools are going to be tool truck quality because they’re the same manufacturers, and some of them are flat out trash (pliers and screw drivers). Great video! Thank you for the review!
@z33tanner 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that all those brands are all kabos.
@bradleygroves7229 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just rebranding -_-
@z33tanner 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradleygroves7229 Matco, ICON, Carlyle, Mountain, and Kabo versions of theses wrenches are identical. I work as a technician and own the Mountain set and a coworker owns a Matco set and i can tell you they are identical.
@TheLucas2696 3 жыл бұрын
You see this a lot in power tools as well. TTI owns Milwaukee, Ryobi, Bosch, and many others and while there may be some unique features to some of those brands you can tell by handling them back to back they're likely coming out of the same factories. It's the illusion of choice. Pretty much every item in your average grocery store is produced by one of nine corporations.
@keithmerce3863 3 жыл бұрын
I will stick with Carlyle warranty is easy I broke the 13mm took it to Napa they ordered me anew one and brought it to my shop
@ninjanerdbjjandfitness9544 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently those wrenches break alot.
@prevost8686 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjanerdbjjandfitness9544 They all do if you work them every day. I purchased the Carlyle set simply because NAPA will warranty them and deliver a replacement to my shop. The Carlyle set is more expensive but I ain’t got time for chasing replacements.
@authorityfigure1630 3 жыл бұрын
That’s funny because harbor freight will give it to you at the store, no order required.
@keithmerce3863 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer Napa they are a locally owned business and I get parts there it is more convenient than going to harbor freight.
@Itsdazeni 3 жыл бұрын
they are all the same but not all have the same warranty either platinum only offers a year warranty where as the mountain, Carlyle, and tool truck offer a lifetime. nice video!
@nosliwttam77 3 жыл бұрын
They ask me if I purchased the Carlyle at their store every time I bring one in for warranty. I keep my receipt just in case, but haven't had an issue with getting them warrantied.
@E.IS.M.I.A. 3 жыл бұрын
I love tool reviews
@andrewcampbell5341 3 жыл бұрын
I got mine from my MATCO guy for the same price. Easy warranty process there. Plus I’d rather pay him. Just my thoughts.
@booneautomotive4174 3 жыл бұрын
I got this set and I’m pleased with them
@frugalprepper 3 жыл бұрын
Don't Forget about EZ-Red. I have a combination of EZ-Reds and Mountains. They are handy when you need them, but definitely don't put the torque to them, just use them for reach.
@BubbaAyers1969 3 жыл бұрын
Good video thx for the info
@kevinkieel6778 2 жыл бұрын
great info though. Ill have to check Kabo vs SK. SK was the originator of the offset spline double box with reverse side selector.
@corydriver7634 3 жыл бұрын
Very well thought out review with some eye opening information. You got me as a new subscriber, thanks.
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Glad you liked the information presented here.
@omarmoncloa3415 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Subscribing 👍
@danohstoolbox 3 жыл бұрын
great video Garnett i don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding how you have to pay for quality tools don't matter who makes them and then they cry when they break them you need to know the limitations of the tool the ratchet wrench is not really intended to break the faseners free and they are not going to take the pressure of you bouncing on them if you use your tool the way they are intended they should serve you well that is why any mechanic worth his salt has tools to sacrifice wether that means cutting bending or wielding the tool to the fastener you do what needs to be done to get the job done
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
You're telling me my 1/2" breaker bar was not DESIGNED for me to stand on it? Why does it have those knurlings for traction on my shoes then?
@donaldhollums3278 3 жыл бұрын
@@snap-off5383 this is from my itty-bitty You Tube channel. Forgive the crappy audio. I’m sure to get some grief about the ICON breaker bar, but I have lost sleep over more important things. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g86qlbmomtLSqZs.html
@danohstoolbox 3 жыл бұрын
@@snap-off5383 LoL everything has a weight limit 👍🇨🇦
@lesswatt 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work and don't give into the free Harbor Freight tools for reviews. Another KZfaqr told me about this and now I'm suspect of a lot of Harbor Freight super positive reviews.
@jsa8368 3 жыл бұрын
awesome info! ... do you know who makes icon sockets? ... . I guess its a bad idea to buy used icon tools
@pedrotalavera3541 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very educational video.
@Chino_Rax 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber Great job on your videos Sir
@felixf5211 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the GW version, because of the box end. Heard too many things about a lack of reliability with Kabo, that their wrenches shouldn't be used to break fasteners loose, which is the opposite of what I want in a XXL wrench. No personal experience, however.
@Raeeban 2 жыл бұрын
Get the mountains
@KC-lg7tx 3 жыл бұрын
Man really could have used this video before I bought my matcos
@jinpark5324 Жыл бұрын
HF did design the ICON logo on the wrench. 😂 I owned this set of wrench and very happy with them.
@Jursaw 3 жыл бұрын
I have the mountain set, love it
@XX-sz6qh Жыл бұрын
I really want them to make an sae version of this, I have found them but they have 90 day warranty. I need that lifetime BABY
@LEGOCAMARO 3 жыл бұрын
For me just depends which store is closer. My case Napa but good because I can buy a individual.
@robertcarter2310 Жыл бұрын
You just answered my question. I wonder about manufacturers of icon I wondered if they were snap-on or that of Mac tools not macco same manufacturers distribute all of them I bought a set of sockets half inch drive metric and they resemble a Snap-On socket great performance great tools I'm not knocking the tools
@anthonygm85 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't touched an icon tool as of yet. But what do you think of reckon tools, there doing a fair amount of US made stuff now, I've used there picks and some punches so far they're very good for the price close to gearwrench/sunex and or a tool truck for me,I'm waiting for there crows foot set to show up, I considering there angle wrench set as well
@jamesmontgomery9464 Жыл бұрын
as far i've experienced at harbor freight exchanging Icon, so long as they can make out its an Icon, was never asked for a receipt or phone number.
@spawnandbatman6975 Жыл бұрын
Any tool that can save me a lot of money and still make a lot of money I’m good with. Nowadays so many toolbrands out there can do the same job as tooltruck companies.
@JakeNaughtFromStateFarm 3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t even seen these yet (Icon ones), but my coworker has the Mountain. When you held them up, that was the first brand that came to mind. I’ve considered getting a set of these, but I’m not a big fan of the spline drive. It’s handy, but I find it to be a pain to get on or off sometime. If I do get a set, I’d go with either Carlyle or Icon due to ease of warranty. I’ve heard Mountain is hell to warranty, HF isn’t too hard to find (for most), and NAPAs are close to any civilized area. Although I think we overthink warranties sometime, I’d absolutely make sure you can warranty these easily. On another note, great review and info. You just earned a new subscriber.
@kevinragsdale6256 3 жыл бұрын
my HF said it was lifetime and they would swap it no matter what, and this was after I showed him a wrench and told him I got it at a pawn shop.
@gmlover82 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! You do a great job with each.
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate the support!!!
@fomocore Жыл бұрын
If you have a fighting Matco franchisee. Best just by icon wrenches if you can. They are the same and you'll have way less hassle getting them warranty if you need to
@nitrous07me 3 жыл бұрын
I bought these months ago, I went with the icons for me it was a matter of deciding which place would be easiest to warranty then I went with price, I used a 20% off coupon off instagram. Use these a work I’m a flat rate technician & luv them
@reekz1568 3 жыл бұрын
I have these in snap on. They work great
@reekz1568 3 жыл бұрын
@oShane Kasper they were like 575 bucks. I paid them off in little over a month. Now the 100th anniversary box I got just got is a different story.😂
@wyattoneable 3 жыл бұрын
Nice research!
@beakerunrefined4230 Жыл бұрын
Carlyle goes straight to napa and they bring new wrench straight to the shop, if it's not in stock when I walk through the door. No # required, that's why youbuy local.
@dummkompf 3 жыл бұрын
you don't need a receipt or phone number for lifetime warranty items at harbor freight. Those cashiers you spoke to are just confused or misinformed. They're taught to tell people that the phone numbers help them with warranty claims whenever people resist giving out their phone numbers, but they don't fully understand why they're saying it (which is because harbor freight really wants them to get phone numbers). It's only necessary for items that have a limited warranty period. That said, I would be wary of any store brand that doesn't carry the store's name. Lowes used to have a great warranty but now they're trying to act like Kobalt isn't their own brand, and telling customers to "call Kobalt" when they want to warranty an item that they bought in the store. Just happened to me this morning
@ben10mama 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling icon brought out these wrenches mainly because they are very popular and wanting to sell the same thing but in their brand and stuff. I feel like the main reason you buy these is for the warranty
@RockWarsWorldwide 3 жыл бұрын
So basically what you said is they are tool truck quality and infact are the same exact wrenches as the Carlyle set. What you neglected to mention is the are $100 cheaper than the exact same wrenches simply bc they don't say Carlyle on them. Also your warranty information is misleading. I have never once been required to present either a receipt or phone number at Harbor Freight to warranty a tool. Just take it to the register and they just tell you to go get another.
@hemimuscleman5683 Жыл бұрын
The thing I am impressed with about Icon tools is that they are tool truck quality at a lower price, but have a no questions asked warranty. They also seem to be sturdier than the Pittsburgh line up from Harbor Freight.
@theronwolf3296 6 ай бұрын
"They also seem to be sturdier than the Pittsburgh line" I think that's a key point. HF decided to move into the higher quality ranges but not abandon their budget limited customers. In the long run, a good marketing move.
@matthewcalifana488 3 жыл бұрын
When i was a mechanic i could guess the price of matco tools a bit too much Xs five , For me harbor freight is good enough .
@thelearningmechanic9978 2 жыл бұрын
My class mate just got these open box special for $140. They seem really nice.
@GarnettTools 2 жыл бұрын
They are, especially at that price
@ttamn92 2 жыл бұрын
I personally cant stand those wrenches but I loved the previous non swivel head ones that are getting harder to find everyday it seems .. I got mine from matco thinking if I ever had an issue I could get a replacement right...wrong they keep trying to give me a swivel head one ...I have a whole set of non swivel wrenches so no I'm not going to just have one oddball swivel head in my non swivel set ...my OCD cant do it lol But I've broken so many of the swivel head versions maybe I'm too hard on them idk ..I just wish I could find a dependable way to get the old ones in 17 years owning them only broken 1 and that was all me lol
@jackhammergaming3526 3 жыл бұрын
Ill take my HFTOOLS being all hand tools are lifetime warranty so I'll take my HF plus I use mine in a mechanics shop have had them over 2 years no issues.
@mikeacuna6077 4 ай бұрын
I just wished they made a 6 piece set, I use the 11mm (7/16) size often.
@mattsfirewoodvideos738 3 жыл бұрын
People are so stuck on brand names they will pay double for a Mac wrench its nuts great review
@Ram2253spd 3 жыл бұрын
Mostly for the convenience of having someone come to you since it’s hard to leave in the middle of your job to warranty something. Everyone’s situation is different. Also if your tool rep is good and you ask for a discount they give you one. My tool rep charged me double for a Milwaukee tool. I pointed that out jokingly and he showed up the next week with free batteries. There are perks to paying extra.
@mattsfirewoodvideos738 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ram2253spd I inherited all my snap-on tools and I have alot of them thankfully I also have my fair share of Milwaukee that I bought personally but I am for buying Quality brand name stuff I also have alot of Mac tools as well
@craigdave3266 Ай бұрын
U can buy the icon wrenches on offer up for one hundred all day and if you want wrenches that sell for 3 times more original price are the double box end made in USA wrench u can sell as high as 500 they are hard to find
@GrumpyoldPlumber 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if tool drama was this bad when you could get quality USA made craftsman tools? Anyway I am glad some quality tools are hitting the shelves at harbor freight.
@mikeburnett7028 Жыл бұрын
How long does it take until the swivel gets so loose it just flops around?
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
Icon is overpriced made in Taiwan stuff. ALL of those tools are available for less money in other brands. "ICON" doesn't make anything, Harbor Freight orders these runs from the same factories that make their Pittsburgh Pro stuff (and snap-on's "blue point", and the rest of them. . . . imagine paying MATCO prices for these things) They just have them slap whatever brand they want on them. Capri tools, Tekton tools, etc all do the same thing. You're right the "designed in USA" part was the LOGO and FONT they wanted on the already designed and ready to press tools. They DO NOT have the option of changing the width of the wrench or any other design features, and as such DO NOT have "engineers" that know about tools. They have designers that design ART. Harbor freight was ALREADY having those high quality manufacturers make stuff for them just look for the "made in Taiwan" marking on the box. They just didn't like the success they were having from the pittsburgh pro name, and figured they had an angle to pad profit margins. As such EVERYTHING in the ICON line is overpriced compared to other places where you can find that exact same tool with different engraving. The 3/4" breaker bar that HF sells for $89? ($72 with coupon) . . . Tekton sells the exact same one for $50, and so does Titan. Its that way across the board. If you bought ICON, you got ripped off. Period.
@chip7236 3 жыл бұрын
Some of what you said seems likely to be correct, however what you said about the breaker bars is not true. For one, the tekton is priced at $60. But the main thing you got wrong is the claim that they are the exact same tool. They are not, look them up. I don't know which design is better or stronger, but the point is they are not the same.
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
@@chip7236 Ahh I stand corrected, you're right, the harbor freight one is the inferior internal head "fork" design.
@woodworking5979 3 жыл бұрын
@@snap-off5383 did u think it was funny when dow sold his free icon box he needed cash quick.
@snap-off5383 3 жыл бұрын
@@woodworking5979 didn't catch that, but doesn't surprise me. He didn't need the box. . . I was more surprised he sold his home drill press. I'd die without one of those handy.
@HiFiInsider 2 ай бұрын
i’ll sVe for Snap-on. their tools have been good to me.
@ryanmg02 2 жыл бұрын
The other end of the tool could be designed by icon. The way patents work is a company can buy rights to make or buy the ends from the owner of the patent. They could design every other part down to the material choice and if the designers could have bought the end and designed the rest to conform to size of the other end. It's a wrench only so many ways to make one.
@45asunder1 3 жыл бұрын
Do they work and are they worth the price? That's the only thing that matters to me.
@nbpt1000 3 жыл бұрын
So does Kabo make all of the HF Icon hand tools? Or just this particular design of ratcheting box wrenches?
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
No, certain wrench sets. They are also using Hi-five and Infar from what I can tell
@nbpt1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarnettTools Interesting to know if they are or will be private labeling other tool truck tools.
@armandonika Жыл бұрын
Carlyle wrenches, how do you find quality wise ? Better the sane as icon
@larryborkstrom3580 3 жыл бұрын
Since you already got the same wrenches and already used the Carlisle's I would just return those to Harbor Freight and get your money back probably be my best advice on that one unless you want two sets of them
@GarnettTools 3 жыл бұрын
The Carlyle set is SAE and the ICON set is Metric. I don't think ICON has a SAE set of these as of yet.
@larryborkstrom3580 3 жыл бұрын
@@GarnettTools at least there same company but different so it's not a waste of hard earned cash
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