HARDWARE Tape Emulation vs PLUGIN Tape Machines

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Mixing Music Analog

Mixing Music Analog

Жыл бұрын

In this video, we compare the DIYRE hardware tape emulation 500 series against three popular tape machine plugins.
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@meshica7
@meshica7 Жыл бұрын
I can hear the benefits from both here. I definitely agree with Brother Dave (make it trend, boys) with regards to using both under certain conditions. Thanx guys! As always, great stuff!
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks Juan!
@boomfatdaddy
@boomfatdaddy Жыл бұрын
Merry Xmas dude
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Same to you
@atacamabeatsindierecording8406
@atacamabeatsindierecording8406 Жыл бұрын
Great, nice , thanks
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Most welcome
@thegearseabastian587
@thegearseabastian587 6 ай бұрын
Cool Video!
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@teedybear391
@teedybear391 Жыл бұрын
Hey you Guys. Great videos man. watched your videos on the Presonus quantum. thanks for a honest review 😀. although, wanted to know if the converters are the same on all quantum interface? does the Presonus quantum 2 have the same converters as the 48/48 ? Thanks
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Yes they are the same converter from what I have been told!
@JasonBuffin
@JasonBuffin Жыл бұрын
Great video! I modded my 15IPS modules for more headroom and they live on my master bus at 3 clicks. But I think they come out of the box with too much saturation and really need the mod to give more headroom before they really saturate too much for master bus use. I use my Ultraviolet EQ to add the top end sheen back that's missing from these. Really interesting about your colour palette units. Mine are unity gain at 12o'clock. You might want to contact their support about that because it sounds like you might have something wrong with the units. FYI the CTX console colour module is amazing for that API op-amp and transformer sound for the mix bus.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Jason.
@watchexpert78
@watchexpert78 7 ай бұрын
I just ordered a pair. What is the mod?
@arturovidal5536
@arturovidal5536 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!, in the last comparison I hear the HW louder than Studer Plugin. I agree Studer plugin is pretty flat/2D but also seems smoother in the top end (as a real Studer does), the HW is crispier.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Ultimate_Wasabi
@Ultimate_Wasabi Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't test the Softube tape emulation considering you recently were reviewing their products. The Softube tape has special integration with Studio One that no other tape emulation contains.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
I dont have their tape machine on my SSL rig. I used the 3 I have and to me that is a fair enough test
@jeffreyboehm9602
@jeffreyboehm9602 Жыл бұрын
I am wondering how that 50hz boost affects the overtones. The Studer is flatter, but there are so many more ways to alter it, you could probably get the Studer to match the module.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Yep, just as we said in the video a few times. You can tweak these plugins to make them sound the way you like. They have way more flexibility than the DIYRE module we tested
@woodendoors9532
@woodendoors9532 Жыл бұрын
I saw you used to have the Successor comp. Did you like it on drums?
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
It was ok. I would like to revisit that compressor again
@official_ffg357
@official_ffg357 Жыл бұрын
On the Origin, I saw how you send FX like reverb to the small faders. Can you use the Origin’s FX returns for that use as well?
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Yes
@official_ffg357
@official_ffg357 Жыл бұрын
@@MixingMusicAnalog thank you!
@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS
@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS Жыл бұрын
I have the WAVES Eddie Kramer, and Softube Tape. I´ve used the Eddie Kramer a lot, and like it. Just got the Softube, it´s supposed to be good. I don´t know these other plugins.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
The kamer master tape is a great plugin
@sancessounds
@sancessounds Жыл бұрын
Can you take 2 mono / one channel 500 series units and use them on a stereo source? This is something I am really not familiar with and I am interested in getting into 500 series gear.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
No, if the 500 series hardware is a mono unit, you need two of them in order to use it on a stereo track
@zonarecordingstudio
@zonarecordingstudio Жыл бұрын
It's time me to shoot out my mara machine vs the Rupert Neve Designs 542.I like the slate plugin
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Would love to see it. I was almost ready to get a Mara machine but decided to hold off
@zonarecordingstudio
@zonarecordingstudio Жыл бұрын
@@MixingMusicAnalog it took me a long time to pull the trigger on the mara machine, sounds great
@kingech_B15
@kingech_B15 Жыл бұрын
The Origin is so gorgeous
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much King!
@Hexspa
@Hexspa 5 ай бұрын
Would be awesome if you provided the lossless downloads. Can't commit to a response until I get that.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog 5 ай бұрын
Sorry, too late.
@teddym2808
@teddym2808 3 ай бұрын
Wow the hardware vs the Slate is such a huge difference, it's like another video I recently saw where the Slate was "sucking the life" out of the mix. I am starting to think Slate plugins are silly overrated. But YMMV. Now will go onto UAD examples :)
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JSSTUDIO-wr2jq
@JSSTUDIO-wr2jq Жыл бұрын
👍
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@watchexpert78
@watchexpert78 7 ай бұрын
I flipped back and forth between plug ins and the hardware. The hardware for sure sounds more musical and warmer if you flip back and forth without the listening gap you can hear it. The plug ins definitely have more digital harshness and slightly less clarity when you A-B them. Good to see as I just ordered a stereo pair of DIYRE as its on sale right now. Two with 6 modules for $560 black friday sale
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog 7 ай бұрын
Ok, thanks for the info
@audiolego
@audiolego Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just use the tape on Harrison Mixbus uncle Dave.
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
I have never used the Harrison Mixbus stuff
@audiolego
@audiolego Жыл бұрын
@@MixingMusicAnalog it's a long story why I use Mixbus 32c now. Short story, Logic Pro is giving me disk slow error after I updated to Catalina in 2020. Check it out and see what you think of Harrison 32c . I like it as my 2014 imac(I will milk it as much as I can. ).
@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS
@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS Жыл бұрын
I heard a major difference with UAD Plugin!!!!
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Great!
@dantepalomba7356
@dantepalomba7356 Жыл бұрын
I hear the diyre on the kick and vocals the most. Vocals were obviously saturating
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TheSakuraGumiLTD
@TheSakuraGumiLTD Жыл бұрын
I really like how you've shown the difference between a plugin and a cheaper bit of analog. If you think how much the 542 is, it'll have to be better. These units also are cheap enough also you could fill the buses on a console or even the buses on a summing unit, if they have them without breaking the bank. Much closer top the real thing and still not time consuming like the real thing.
@TheSakuraGumiLTD
@TheSakuraGumiLTD Жыл бұрын
But good to see that plugins aren't useless in comparison... That living sound analog gives is the only thing analog will always have over digital unit. Until the digital format gets completely changed eventually, when those advancements are made. confidence in the HRK unit now
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
I can tell you that now that I have a pair of Neve 542's, they are way better to my ears than the DIYRE modules. Again, this is just my opinion. To my personally (uncle dave), the DIYRE modules are not flexible enough and get to saturated to quickly. However, DSJ feels differently and neither one of us is "wrong" its all about your personal workflow and taste.
@ismailfardane3207
@ismailfardane3207 Жыл бұрын
Cheap? These units costs around 800 dollars
@dyonissiszoes3747
@dyonissiszoes3747 9 ай бұрын
Honestly the Slate plugin made everything fatter and wider in no time while keeping the air that the real tape killed instantly. With maintenance costs and tape fees, a tape machine is not an investment I'd make any time soon...
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog 9 ай бұрын
Ok, great. Thanks for watching!
@LosFicosMusic
@LosFicosMusic Жыл бұрын
TAPE ALL DAY
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Got to love it!
@gutekzpoligonu
@gutekzpoligonu Жыл бұрын
This most commont UAD tape emulator, which is after studer is darker in upper mids than module. You can hear it with this tambourine hits To add to comments below: RND 542 seams to color the whole package without adding mids or high mids. It sounds just like good fat tape. Just like Steve Albini said: Tape is just a recording tool. In a perfect world You won't hear much diference - just a color or some sort of 2nd/3rd harmonics. (blue/red silk?)
@MixingMusicAnalog
@MixingMusicAnalog Жыл бұрын
Great points, thanks for watching!
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