Harley Iron 883 Owner Test Rides the Yamaha Bolt! | TestRides

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Shawn Smoak

Shawn Smoak

11 жыл бұрын

After performing a service bulletin procedure on our demo Bolt, I took her for a test run around the block.
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@LVNeptune
@LVNeptune 11 жыл бұрын
You are the first person that's ridden both that I've seen actually prefer the Harley. Surprising.
@MrSwitchblade327
@MrSwitchblade327 Жыл бұрын
It's the bias
@erikeibi1927
@erikeibi1927 10 жыл бұрын
i am glad to say that i am proud i bought this one..couldnt afford harley but hey.....loving it so far...first service now
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
erik eibi - Awesome Erik! I don't think I've heard a single complaint from anyone who's purchased a Bolt from us, and we sell a ton of them... Glad you're loving it, they're an awesome bike! Thanks for watching and commenting Erik!
@katana258
@katana258 10 жыл бұрын
Shawn Smoak air filter in your knee stops the use of rear brake ....key can not be inserted unless off the bike , gauge washes out in the sun , or pay extra for a sun visor to see it ...what ?? pay extra to see the gauge ... oh hell no
@k11keeper
@k11keeper 9 жыл бұрын
Was just watching cause it came up on my feed. To my delight when you drove out the parking lot you were near my hometown right on industrial way in Longview. Glad a guy from back home is making quality videos.
@brouillard54
@brouillard54 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this tour and commenting about the rear suspensions. I was wondering about it.
@dariansimms
@dariansimms 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, you can hear your voice and a little of the bike without all the wind noise. Thank you for caring about the quality!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
Actually, from 2012 and up, the stock suspension is very supple and pleasant. Maybe a little soft for my 220lb weight... I ride the Iron more like a cafe bike, so the suspension was too short and caused dragging of exhaust and pegs too early for my taste. I installed 13' shocks (stock is 11") and a fork spring kit to reduce fork sag. I actually made the ride stiffer by doing this... The stock suspension was much more comfortable! Thanks for watching!
@ragimundvonwallat8961
@ragimundvonwallat8961 5 жыл бұрын
'it dosent have anything over the iron' hahah it totally does man, this things whip the iron by such a margin, not even close
@morteparla6926
@morteparla6926 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, the Bolt is closer to the 1200 in performance than it is the 883
@SavgSith
@SavgSith 4 жыл бұрын
Seen a couple rolling races between a bolt and a iron and the bolt always pulled on the iron like it was nothing. So from what this dude was saying. Better pull. Better suspension. Better brakes. But it has nothing on the iron 😂 hes a chopped up old dude set in his ways lol
@deadshot4245
@deadshot4245 2 жыл бұрын
It’s that Harley blindfold man that brand has been going down the shithole for years these Japanese clone bikes far superior in reliability and maintenance alone
@NovaBlade926
@NovaBlade926 2 жыл бұрын
The Bolt is basically an Upgraded 883
@MrRubenAlonzo
@MrRubenAlonzo 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest opinion Shawn. I had a '14 1200T and wondered about the Bolt myself when it hit the scene.
@pointnozzleaway
@pointnozzleaway Жыл бұрын
I'm just looking for a Bike to Backroad my way to and from work 25 miles and enjoy. I hear so many good things about the Bolt. I appreciate your review
@giff74
@giff74 10 жыл бұрын
That was some of the best sound quality I've heard while someone is riding, great job! I've got a "small fistful" of dollars and I'm really wanting to get back into riding. I'm waiting for really cold weather or until I find a motivated seller. I've really been looking at the Iron, Bolt and Bonneville. I like all three for different reasons, but it may come down to the best deal I can find. Great video, keep it up!
@KL-uu2vq
@KL-uu2vq 3 жыл бұрын
You have to adjust the rear springs from the factory. I put some 12 inchers and the ride is now way softer
@aronchas
@aronchas 9 жыл бұрын
love your videos Shawn, im still decided to buy an iron for the looks and the feel. cheers from Mex city
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 10 жыл бұрын
More power, better brakes, better suspension, and he still says it got nothing on the iron 😒
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Eight months down the road, and still working for Yamaha, my opinion is still exactly the same... It has nothing to do with specs, even if it did, the actual differences are marginal at best. It's all personal feelings towards the bike. It's not like I was going road racing and the specs were very important. Who would ever race an Iron or a Bolt? It would be pointless as they're both pretty much gutless... Thanks for watching and commenting maximus10463!
@DrJekyl30
@DrJekyl30 10 жыл бұрын
Shawn Smoak you just made the most valid point between these two bikes. Who cares, they're both gutless so the spec sheet doesn't matter. I ride a Raider 1900 but I would buy a 48, but not a bolt.
@AlmirOsmanovic
@AlmirOsmanovic 10 жыл бұрын
Shawn Smoak When it comes to bikes, it's all about how you feel about the bike when you first sit on it. Example: People say VWs are garbage, but I love them because that's the first car I drove, and even with a Honda...I traded it in and got a new VW. First bike I bought was a Yamaha Stryker...it feels great for me and it was cheaper than a HD...sounds great and it fits me. Nothing against a HD, not at all, but personal preference.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Almir Osmanović Perfect Almir! Very well said, and I agree 110% Thanks for watching and the awesome comment!
@ericstouffer281
@ericstouffer281 6 жыл бұрын
RagingTiger brainwashed mentality. That's why.
@300kike
@300kike 7 жыл бұрын
The display of the digital odometer reminds me of one of those cheap watches you'd get as a toy when you got a kids meal at Burger King when I was a kid
@beardedkountry
@beardedkountry 8 жыл бұрын
@Shawn I see you work on various bikes I came across a 2014 bolt for a hella deal, but the dealer is selling it used and as is (has 2nd gear noise) are the transmissions hard to replace or would it be better to have it rebuilt????
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
The speedo face is quite dark and hard to read in the sunlight. I hear that Yamaha may be coming out with an optional face that should help, but nothing has come of it so far... Awesome bike though! Thanks for watching!
@joparsons20
@joparsons20 6 жыл бұрын
actually looking into getting a bolt, also trying to figure out what im going to have to replace/add, so far new speedo, exhaust, air cleaner, swingarm bag, headlight, maybe do something with the seat not sure on that yet though
@khairulazmi7432
@khairulazmi7432 10 жыл бұрын
man i love the honest review. thanks man. i appreciate you making the video.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Khairul Azmi! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@97gmc97
@97gmc97 10 жыл бұрын
Great video I pretty tried 3 bikes before I bought mine I tried a 883, Vulcan 900 and the bolt. I'm not really a big guy 5"10 190 lbs but for me the bolt was too cramped n gave me a leg cramp after 5 miles, the harely was great but seemed heavy n kinda drug it's feet till 3d gear I ended up with the Vulcan cause it came with the sattle bags sissy bar n windshield the bolt definitely had more get up n go but wasn't my style of bike. Good vid tho
@theoriginalOSOK
@theoriginalOSOK 7 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2014 Bolt - love it. But I really have nothing to compare it with. It is hard on my butt at times but I've learned to deal with that - good posture or standing on the pegs at times lol.
@VikingBagsYT
@VikingBagsYT 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! We here at Viking Bags really appreciate your content, keep it up!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it’s much appreciated..! Thanks!! 👊
@johnsnow9858
@johnsnow9858 11 жыл бұрын
Never rode a bike before and I bought one.. I LOVE it!!!!!!...Extremely easy to ride.
@damianpeter80
@damianpeter80 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Shawn can you review the Vulcan s please
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Okay, well, thanks for watching and commenting RandomAMemory! FYI: I've been in the motorcycle business since Feb of 1980 (almost 34 years), been riding and racing since 1972. Fully certified in all of the big four Japanese brands, Orange Level certified in KTM and Master Tech certified with BRP Can-Am, Sea-Doo, Ski-Doo and Spyder Roadster. Have worked for some of the largest dealers in the country, bla, bla, bla... So on and so forth... Just thought that might entertaining to know...
@ih8momjokes1
@ih8momjokes1 10 жыл бұрын
This video has been very helpful! Thanks.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting ih8momjokes1!
@jacobowitness5564
@jacobowitness5564 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 883 as well, looking to buy the bolt. the motorcycle scene is like the car scene. if it's not done the way someone else is doing it then it's wrong and everyone bashes on it.
@mavagrand
@mavagrand 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds like I'm hearing a tick when you accelerate. Valve clatter?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure I'm crazy about the springer seat look either, but have you ridden on one? If so, how do they feel? I would like to try one on the Iron, as they seem like they might be comfortable. Heck of a price to pay to try one...!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
I'm in love with the the 48...! I will be purchasing one! Almost did a couple months ago, but Harley was too high on interest so i wisely (somehow) walked away... It was a sweet deal with the trade-in of my 2012 '72', but the interest just would not have been a good deal in the end. Thanks for watching and commenting marcos pereira!
@marcosarg1
@marcosarg1 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Shawn, what do you think about the HD 48? is it reliable?
@thedakon
@thedakon 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome thedakon! And thank you for watching!
@unlockwall
@unlockwall 10 жыл бұрын
this is the bike that made me want to start riding just love the look of it
@dexter2433
@dexter2433 6 жыл бұрын
looking at getting the Bolt soon ...but will sit on a 883 also but thinking i will still go with the bolt
@BFD15i
@BFD15i 11 жыл бұрын
Nice video, really appreciate it. I'm considering buying a Bolt for myself but I'm a bit insecure if I would "fit" on it. I am 6'1 @ roughly 240 pounds. Would the Bolt still be a comfy / cool ride or would it just look ridiculous? Secound choice would be a XVS 1300 Midnight Star. Which one would you prefer?
@hawaiisidecar
@hawaiisidecar 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Tangaroa MC !
@IstanbulRider
@IstanbulRider 11 жыл бұрын
How was the speedometer btw, does it handle the sunlight o.k? Looks like it might be a bit of a problem. thanks for the good review as well.
@jamesmcgrath1952
@jamesmcgrath1952 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of digital either. I'm 66 years old and I'm just more comfortable with analog. Oh, and I HAVE to have a tach. I don't care if they think I don't need it, I just like to have it.
@ryanmiller8459
@ryanmiller8459 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for response. New rider here I'm loving the HD sportsters, and the 883. I also like the Bolt. I know there is Kits for HD883 to upgrade to 1200 and it seems pretty simple. Does Star have anything like that for the Bolt? What would it upgrade to?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan! I know that people are overboring the Bolts, but Yamaha is not offering a Star accessory kit to do so as of yet. I haven't done any research to see if any reputable companies are offering big bore kits for the Bolt, but I'm sure they're out there! And just so you know, you couldn't possibly go wrong with the Bolt or the Iron! It's all a personal thing from here as to which one you want. I'm sure glad I knew what I wanted to start with, because this would be a daunting decision trying to pick between the two!
@bobbzhere81
@bobbzhere81 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video, i tried both 883 and bolt decided to buy 883 next summer.
@j10betty
@j10betty 9 жыл бұрын
i just purchased this in the red tank. looks great an rides like i was hopeing. it really is fun to ride an im use to ride sport.
@randymarks4011
@randymarks4011 6 жыл бұрын
freaky, started watching this and realized you're riding through the town I live in hahahaha
@boomerguy9935
@boomerguy9935 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the stock seat. I don't know of any stock seat on any bike that feels good. The first thing I replaced on my Sportster was the seat.
@annettenpaul
@annettenpaul 10 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that, thanks much for making and posting. I ride an XL1200 Custom, near perfect for me.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy riding Sportsters also... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@frankkemble2103
@frankkemble2103 7 жыл бұрын
So much prefer the Bolt to the sporty but hate that bloody awful speedometer! Get rid of it please Yamaha!
@boomerguy9935
@boomerguy9935 3 жыл бұрын
My Sportster's speedo needle is perfect! I can tell my speed at a glance. This stupid dark digital non-display - even if I could see it - would be hard to read because it is square numbers. NOT good.
@mort6913
@mort6913 11 жыл бұрын
How do think the Bolt might compare to the Nightster?
@ohwell2790
@ohwell2790 6 жыл бұрын
Do you ride with your hand on the clutch all the time, let go of the handle.
@bclarke4336
@bclarke4336 10 жыл бұрын
Really good video for comparing Bolt to Iron. Thing is that here in Canada the msrp for an iron is $1300 more than a Bolt!
@ryanmiller8459
@ryanmiller8459 10 жыл бұрын
Does the 883 & Bolt feel the same as comfort when you ride? Bolt seems bigger in size.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
They are really, really close... Yamaha was after the Iron and did a good job of making feel like one, right down to the footpeg placement. If you could close you eyes, only the engine sound and brakes would give them away, though the Iron got greatly upgraded brakes for 2014. I haven't compared fiscal specs, one could be bigger that the other... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
I would too! That's why we don't do that unless instructed to do so by the manufacturer... This is our demo Bolt from Yamaha that has been ridden by many customer's. Thanks for viewing and commenting! - Shawn
@JojoCrazyCat
@JojoCrazyCat 11 жыл бұрын
What size is the engine on the Bolt ?
@soapcole
@soapcole 10 жыл бұрын
Hey man, i'm thinking about buying the bolt or the 883 and was wondering which would be better for a college student. My college is about 100 miles from home and it'd would be my main transportation. I'd use it to get around campus when i'm there to so a bunch of stop and go. Thanks!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
To be honest, either one would meet your needs perfectly! Go test ride them both and see which one speaks to you heart... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ShadowLancer128
@ShadowLancer128 11 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on the Harley Breakout?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
You couldn't go wrong with any of those bikes, for sure... Look forward to seeing what you end up with! Thanks for watching and the kind words!
@michaelbourgoin8317
@michaelbourgoin8317 10 жыл бұрын
Please reveal how you recorded the video with such great audio. Is it a Go-Cam, and where is the microphone? I want that technology. I already have the Bolt...
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, this is a pretty easy to do setup. It's a GoPro Hero 3+ mounted on the side of my helmet (though I've since switched to the chin of the helmet) and a lapel mic stuffed into the cheek padding of the inner liner. The best mic I've found is the external mic from the Drift HD Ghost camera... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@steelfoe
@steelfoe 10 жыл бұрын
Trying to narrow it down between the iron or the bolt
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Man I feel for you! If I wasn't so prefocused on the Iron long before the Bolt was announced, I would have had a tough time deciding too... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@honda622
@honda622 10 жыл бұрын
the service bulletin wouldnt happen to be because of the left rear turn signal not working would it?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Adam Wallace - It was for early VIN range models were the brake light switch wire from the pedal could come in contact with the rear head pipe. Very easy bulletin to perform, only had about two or three of our units need it performed... Thanks for watching and commenting Adam!
@Adivelez
@Adivelez 11 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to buy my first bike ever and I really like the bolt. Can a beginner handle this kind of bike??
@valveman12
@valveman12 10 жыл бұрын
Good review. Thank you for sharing.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks valveman12! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@paulgregroy1986
@paulgregroy1986 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Shawn,we dont have the Bolt in the uk as yet,but! im sure the Harley is better.thanks.
@touretteguy69
@touretteguy69 10 жыл бұрын
very well done. gotta ask what mic/recorder u are using, it is crystal clear!! keep em coming
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
The mic was a Neewer Mini Laptop mic. Got it through Amazon... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@dowhatyouwill
@dowhatyouwill 10 жыл бұрын
Shawn Smoak I was gonna ask the same thing. Will keep that in mind when buying a mic, thanks!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
That wasn't really a deciding point in my purchasing the Iron, but it sure makes getting a lower interest loan much, much easier...! Freaks the bank out when you purchase a used Sportster that's worth more than it sold for new, ie: my 2012 XL1200V "72" I purchased 5 weeks ago... However, the best price I could find the Iron for was $800 over MSRP, the bank didn't like that. Some dealers were $1,900 over MSRP! Thanks for viewing and commenting! - Shawn
@ArielMantovani
@ArielMantovani 9 жыл бұрын
Shawn, what's your thought about this bike? Is more like a commuter/city bike or you think is a good bike for road travelling? Fuel consumption is average or it has a better ratio than similar bikes? Thanks for you excellent review!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 9 жыл бұрын
I would say it's more of a around town and back roads kind of bike, bit I've no issues going on 200~300 mile rides in a day. Plenty of people travel on them, and the bike is way more than capable. But it's physically not a large and roomy bike, so you might feel a bit cramped with it loaded down for the long haul... On longer rides, I average as high as 57 mpg. My overall average is around 52 mpg. Thanks for watching and commenting Ariel !
@ArielMantovani
@ArielMantovani 9 жыл бұрын
Shawn Smoak Thanks for your response! I´m used to ride a not so roomy bike. I own a "Virago-Like" 250cc and I'm looking for a change to a bigger v-twin to ride on my country's roads. A year ago, I went into a 2400Km (1490 miles) round trip to one of the most beautiful cities here, with my bike, and it was an experience I will never forget. One of the flaws of my bike was the poor response on takeovers, due to lack of horsepower on the engine. Thanks again, Shawn. And as we say here, "Buenas rutas!" (could be translated as "Good trips!")
@jaketaylor3571
@jaketaylor3571 10 жыл бұрын
I suggest that you test ride the bolt rspec, if you havent already. Thats what I own and the rear shocks have you fealing almost nothing. My buddy bought a 2014 iron 883 around the same time I bought my rspec. My bike out performed his in every area except for [maybe] style. The new irons, in my opinion, are probably the best looking bikes on the street today. Like them or not, Harley got it right with the look of the iron 883. With that being said, great video and thanks.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
The R-Spec Bolt rocks, for sure! Have you done any mods to yours yet? Thanks for watching and commenting!
@jaketaylor3571
@jaketaylor3571 10 жыл бұрын
No, it's my first bike, and I really don't know what I want to add or remove. The wife wants a back seat and pegs! The only complaint I have is the pegs are low and I can't turn as sharp as I want. But I'm still pretty new to bikes and don't even really know if they can be moved forward or not.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Jake Taylor There are so many possibilities for mods. Sounds like you're doing the right thing. Getting used to the bike and finding the different things to do in the future... Though you might want to make the wife happy first! LOL Ride safe out there.
@jaketaylor3571
@jaketaylor3571 10 жыл бұрын
Right on, thanks for the videos and enjoy your bikes.
@KL-uu2vq
@KL-uu2vq 3 жыл бұрын
I went from a 750 virago to this bolt. Put a wide mustang seat on it. It’s plenty plenty fast.
@erniepopcorn
@erniepopcorn 10 жыл бұрын
I ride sportbikes normally but want to make a transition to cruisers. Would this be a good bike for me? I'm worried about power since sportbikes have alot of torque.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Well, generally sportbikes have a lot of horsepower and low torque, unless it's a Ducati, KTM, etc. twin... There will be a horsepower and torque loss for you depending on what you've been riding. The average 600cc sportbike would literally eat an Iron 883 alive! But you have to understand that a bike like the Iron has nothing to do with specs, power or speed. If any of that is important to you, the Iron will be a disappointment. It's all about the experience of the ride, the solid build of a Harley, along with it's rough and raw feel... It's a real biker's bike, so to speak! Not that it's a complete dog that you can't have a tremendous amount of fun on, or that is so raw that you have to get off and rest every hour. It's just never going to keep up in a canyon race with a pack of sportbikes or make a good touring bike... It's a bike that puts a smile on you face at the very thought of wanting to go for a ride! Harley shops allow the best test rides ever, swing by a shop and take one out, you'll either GET the idea of a Harley, or hate it. There seems to be no middle ground, you just need to experience it to find out... Thanks for watching and commenting Ernest!
@erniepopcorn
@erniepopcorn 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I've been thinking about changing to a cruise but deep inside I'm still a sportbike kind of person. But I'm thinking I could sacrifice the speed for the enjoyment of a good ride.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
I believe deep down I think of myself as being a sportbike guy, as I grew up on them. But now that I don't even own one anymore, I don't really miss them. Like you say, I just enjoy the ride... I think I'll live longer this way too! Lol
@mike63ful
@mike63ful 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting !
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting mike63ful!
@brianfisher3774
@brianfisher3774 9 жыл бұрын
Is that a new shop your working out of
@brotherted
@brotherted 10 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb question, but isn't the Kawasaki Vulcan 900 in the same category in price and performance as these two bikes? I know some people hate the water cooling radiator look on the Vulcan, but apart from that, any thoughts on it?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
The VN900's are awesome bikes that are stone reliable! Nothing wrong with them at all. For me personally, they just aren't my style and build quality. Not that there is anything wrong with them, they just seem 'stamped out', if you know what I mean... The radiators are very well disguise and most people don't realize they are liquid cooled. Thanks for watching and commenting +brotherted !
@brotherted
@brotherted 10 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think that the Vulcan 900s aren't often in the Star Bolt vs. Harley 883 comparisons because those last two are "bobbers" without a second seat. And so maybe it's the back seat that makes the Vulcan 900's natural competitors more the Honda Shadow Aero & Suzuki C50t?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
You may have a very good point brotherted !
@caffeineman72
@caffeineman72 10 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Vulcan 900 Custom a few weeks ago, so far I love this bike - previously owned a vstar 650, and Honda Sabre 1100. And it has all the things I loved about both of those bikes. Power similar to the 1100, feels more flickable like the vstar. For me the water cooling is a plus - I don't mind the looks of it and living in Texas it's really nice to get that heat off the engine. But I agree, it's not the same style as the bolt or iron - more traditional cruiser than bobber.
@ryanmiller8459
@ryanmiller8459 10 жыл бұрын
You have years experience and ridden both. What would you choose for your first bike?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
That would be impossible for me to give you an unbiased opinion between these two bikes... One, is that I fell for the Iron when it was first introduced in 2009. I loved the barebones, no flash, bobber/cafe vibe that it gives off. And secondly, no matter what your thoughts are about Harleys, there is no mistaking the mustique of them... People just love the look and sound of a Harleys! Their fit & finish and the solid well built feel to them when you ride them is unsurpassed. But that's just my thoughts... Sorry Ryan, I warned you that I couldn't give an unbiased opinion!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 9 жыл бұрын
***** - Look a little closer... The Iron 883 (XL883N) was introduced by Harley-Davidson in 2009 after the success of the 1200 Nightster (XL1200N). It was an addition to their Dark Custom family of models. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@troyherold4034
@troyherold4034 10 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video - thx. Researching which would be a good first (re-entry) bike and am leaning toward the Honda Shadow (Phantom or Spirit), but came across the Bolt and your video. Which do you prefer? Which has better maintenance histories? Thanks!!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge and loyal Honda fan, but in this case, I would go for the Bolt between those two. Not that there's anything wrong with the Honda by any means, I just think the Bolt is a way bigger bang for the buck. Plus, (and please don't flame me!) it looks and feels a lot like the Harley Iron... As far as maintenance, the Honda has a long history of being stone reliable and easy to maintain. Going by the XVS950 V-Star, which the Bolt is pretty much based on, they should do equally as well. In this category of bike, you simply could not go wrong with the Harley, Honda or Yamaha! Just sit back and see which one pulls you in. Which one do you see yourself riding down the road with a huge smile on your face...? Thanks for watching and commenting!
@mrpotatoheadracing
@mrpotatoheadracing 10 жыл бұрын
This guys quick review is spot on. The Bolt suspension, seat, and digital read out leaves something to be desired. On the upside makes nice smooth power, shifts good, feel to the frame so-on. The 883 feels a little heavier to me, slightly less peppy, decent suspension, endless aftermarket set ups. The Suzuki S80 or older vs800 is a nice bike in this category too. Sporting good suspension, shaft drive, smooth and strong engine, make this bike a good contender in this category. The VS800/S50 is nice too, but has pretty small ergonomics. Both the Suzukis, like Honda, have that metric cruiser exhaust note that I'd rather not hear, unlike the the Yamaha, though not exactly Harley, has a very nice tone.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice mrpotatoheadracing! Well said...
@JonXDom
@JonXDom 8 жыл бұрын
Bolt is my first 'Big Boy' bike. I deliberated for ages over the Bolt (XV950 here in the UK) and the 883. Went with Yamaha in thr end. I watched this video before I bought mine, after owning it for 4 months I can say this is a real honest and accurate review of the bike. I paid more for the 'R' version which gives you slightly better rear shox and a comfier seat... The seat was worth it. (If only for the looks) But the rear still bottoms out alot and I will defnitiely swap out that awful stock exhaust for V&H when I can! Cheers for helping me make my choice!
@zer08927
@zer08927 5 жыл бұрын
I just got my 2014 regular version a few weeks ago. I love it! Now to start saving some money for the mods. Shame that the new exhaust law in California prevents some manufacturers from shipping here (90dB max, or something like that). Traded a 2008 Ducati Hypermotard to the Bolt and as a 5'5" rider, I must say it feels good to flat foot again.
@SkyeElRahi
@SkyeElRahi 9 жыл бұрын
Shawn, what are you thoughts on the Indian Scout? If you get to ride one make a video I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
@cueballB
@cueballB 9 жыл бұрын
I rode one. Imo a better bike than the iron and the bolt. Good ground clearance, goodlooking, great power and handling and looks awesome. It does cost 3 to 4k more than a standard bolt. With some luck, you'll find a HD Dyna for that price.
@leoncevidal5941
@leoncevidal5941 10 жыл бұрын
I just bought an r spec bolt and I like it much more than the sportster. Those who are tied to Harley will always chose the Harley.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your new R-Spec Bolt! Those are awesome bikes... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Sinke7
@Sinke7 10 жыл бұрын
What would you say all-in-all about this bike? I'm considering in buying this one for my first bike. I rode some Harley's and am a big fan of those but would like to know what would you say about this being my first one? :) Cheers!
@warowar52
@warowar52 10 жыл бұрын
would u think an iron 883 is a good first bike?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
mo mueed The Iron would be great as a starter bike. It's friendly and forgiving enough that anyone could ride one... The very same could be said about the Yamaha Bolt... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@hulkhatepunybanner
@hulkhatepunybanner 10 жыл бұрын
"I'll let you go, goodbye." Were you talking on the phone the entire time? LOL
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
LOL No, I'm just strange... Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ircandelaria
@ircandelaria 11 жыл бұрын
I've never ridden any bike. which one would you recommend for a 5'2" 140lb? Bolt or iron 883?
@MrSwitchblade327
@MrSwitchblade327 Жыл бұрын
5'2" beginner?Honda Rebel 500 or 1100
@jboy2621
@jboy2621 7 жыл бұрын
The Bolt is unproven but it'll have its heritage just like the Yamaha RD350 does today. The Honda Ascot VT 500 was in the same position, now it's a vintage collector's bike. I'm also guessing that the limited-run Honda VTX 750 Shadow RS is also going to be a collectable. Harley tried to patent their sound just to block the Shadow RS from the iconic rumble. lol
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
I will do that as soon as we get another one in... Thanks for watching and commenting C7Stingray14!
@savagemako17
@savagemako17 10 жыл бұрын
Cycle World compared the bolt and sportster and revealed quarter mile times for both. The Bolt did the quarter in 13.78 and the sporty in 14.53. In quarter mile times...that's quite a difference. That should be an obvious difference when it comes to that "seat of the pants" feel. The couple of drag races here on You tube between the two, shows the Bolt running away from the sporty. Adding 13" shocks is the obvious smart addition. Better ride quality and more clearance to boot. I never cared much for the low look, but I do like the chopped look and the longer forks on the bolt give the bike that low in the rear, high in the front stature. I owned a 99 XLX 1200 Sportster sport, bought brand new, for 4 years. It was a nice bike...a handsome brute in silver. I didn't much care for the stock seating position though and since rubber mounting wasn't yet available, cruising at much over 65 mph wasn't very comfortable for long, due to the enormous amount of vibration. My hand controls would even loosen up on me. I stick with Japanese or Italian bikes these days. Thanks for the videos.
@Sinke7
@Sinke7 10 жыл бұрын
I mean... Would you go for IRON or for this one and why? :)
@willmann30
@willmann30 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Smoak I ride a 1980 CB750 CUSTOM and I gotta tell ya rides better than the Bolt and the Sportster! And I never rode either lol! Yes I'm a bit biased considering! Ride safe!
@HOWNDOG66
@HOWNDOG66 11 жыл бұрын
This bike interested me, thx for the honest ride. Hate the speedo but want the tailight for my Iron.
@mrbigtime81
@mrbigtime81 9 жыл бұрын
good review thanx.
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 11 жыл бұрын
Nice unbiased review, much appreciated. . Annoyed that the bolt was bottoming out the suspension on you. I've heard that's a problem with the sportsters too. Shouldn't be this common! :(.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
I should check around with the dealers. Surely they've set up a unit, or have a trade-in with the seat installed. Stumbled onto a video of a black denim 72 with a brown springer seat that looked pretty cool. Never been a fan of forward controls or apes, but the combo with the mini's are quite comfortable on the 72. That being said, I wouldn't install them on the Iron, as I like it's almost cafe-ish feeling and look... The contrast between the two bikes is very black & white, but both are fun!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
It's a 950 class V-Twin engine that has an actual 942cc, to be exact.
@johnhudson9047
@johnhudson9047 9 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to decide between this bike, an M50, and a V Star 650. I can't sit on one of these bikes because my dealership doesn't have one (small dealership). I'm 5'8" or 5'9" with a 32" inseam but i only weigh about 120 pounds, so the M50 makes me look ridiculously small. I like the forward controls of the M50, but it stretches me out a bit too much for comfort. This will be my first motorcycle ever (not even dirt bikes). I'm used to the principles of a clutch though because i drive my dad's truck some. I will definitely take the MSF course before i get a bike though. Any advice on deciding between these 3 bikes (probably coming down between the Bolt and the V Star 650)? Edit: Also, what all is on the display exactly? I know obviously they have a digital speedometer and an odometer, but is there anything else?
@HikaruKatayamma
@HikaruKatayamma 9 жыл бұрын
Buy a used bike! I cannot emphasize this enough. But a used bike! You will drop your bike in the first year. If you're lucky, you won't wreck it. But a used bike!
@johnhudson9047
@johnhudson9047 9 жыл бұрын
Hikaru Katayamma i know, i know...My friend's dad said he'd keep his S40 long enough for me to get it out of college and I can buy it from him. There's a 99% chance that his bike will be my first one. The only issue i have with buying used (via craigslist or things like that) is knowing how well it was maintained. He does his own basic maintenance on it, and he's the only person who's ridden it though, so i know it's been well cared for. It's just that when i go buy the dealership and sit on bikes to "get my fix" as the employees describe it, i sit on multiple different bikes so it makes me consider the possibilities hahaha.
@HikaruKatayamma
@HikaruKatayamma 9 жыл бұрын
If you're looking at a used bike, ask them if you can take it to a dealership to have it checked out. The dealership will charge you a fee to look at it and make sure it's good, but it would cost you a TON less than a new bike. Plan on owning a bike a year. If you spend $1000-1500 on a decent bike and don't destroy it, you can turn around and re-sell it for a similar price. If you DO destroy it, at least it wasn't a $6-10K bike!
@mordys6305
@mordys6305 8 жыл бұрын
Honda Shadow 750.
@GilFavor101
@GilFavor101 10 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if this would beat my xv1000 (stock) in a race?
@GilFavor101
@GilFavor101 10 жыл бұрын
85 xv1000
@tylernelson1993
@tylernelson1993 9 жыл бұрын
john hardin Probably not a 1/4 mile. The bolt has a 0-60 in 4.8sec. Something like that. And the the xv1000 does that in 5.1sec. But the 1000 would catch it after about 60-70mph.
@unholy7324
@unholy7324 9 жыл бұрын
thank you for this no bs assessment. im about to get my first bike and im stuck on the fence between the 883 and a bolt. was this an r-spec?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks +unholy7 ! Yeah, that's a tough decision between these two bikes! You'll be very happy, regardless of which one you choose. This was the standard Bolt, the R-Spec has much nicer rear shocks and seems to be toned for slight better performance...
@unholy7324
@unholy7324 9 жыл бұрын
Shawn Smoak i've decided to go with the r-spec as a starter bike. cheaper on the wallet and i've seen some really epic bobber builds from the bolt. thanks again!
@elithegreat6463
@elithegreat6463 9 жыл бұрын
I'm on the fence as well. This would be a 2nd Bike for me, I have an 2012 S1000RR, but a nice cruiser would be nice. The Bolt has a simpler Oil change ritual...Way simpler !! Sportsters have that Stupid Fucking Tube Drain underneath, then there's the Primary oil, and the oil filter just Gets oil all over the front of the bike. Sure the Sport has more goodies to put onto the bike, but that just puts a hole in your wallet too....Sure your Soul says Harley, but the Brain says Bolt ??,,,Who knows ?? And, plus a Harley built on a Friday is going to have problems, just with any American Made products, cause we all Know American Workers on a Friday Don't Give a Shit
@unholy7324
@unholy7324 9 жыл бұрын
BeaglePower G exactly! I'm going to get a bolt once I settle in. I just moved out to Oklahoma.
@johnhudson9047
@johnhudson9047 9 жыл бұрын
BeaglePower G but a bike that was made on Friday will not have as many problems as one of the bikes made on Saturday when employees have to work overtime to fill a quota lol
@Rouwiinator
@Rouwiinator 6 жыл бұрын
beautiful bike but what the hell is that speedometer?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 6 жыл бұрын
They changed the display the next year so you could read the digital readout in the sun..! Pretty tough to see, right? Thanks for watching!
@snugglybear182
@snugglybear182 10 жыл бұрын
Does the speedometer even have a fuel gauge?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
No, no fuel gauge of any kind. Old school way of keeping track of the mileage using one of the trip meters... Thanks for watching and commenting Bob!
@tooyoung225
@tooyoung225 8 жыл бұрын
+Shawn Smoak They do have a low fuel light, but it comes on WAY too early, in my opinion. I still have almost a gallon of gas when the light comes on.
@gaskan666
@gaskan666 10 жыл бұрын
If you cant beat it copy it ?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
I think the Bolt is an awesome bike, whether for a beginner or a seasoned rider. I've been riding for many years, and I'd love to have a Bolt sitting next to the Iron in my shop. I knew before it's release, that Yamaha was building their own copy of the Iron, but I never for a moment hesitated in my choice to buy the Iron. I chose the Iron for it's soul, character, deep routed heritage of the Harley company and the emotion it gives to me... Thanks for watching and commenting SINke!
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 11 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, the Bolt would be perfectly fine for a new rider... Thanks for viewing and commenting! - Shawn
@collinjohnson1398
@collinjohnson1398 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Buying a bolt this next week. ...2015 .....300 miles....4500 $
@QuasarPolaris
@QuasarPolaris 6 жыл бұрын
collin johnson Please keep me updated, Collin! I am thinking of starting to ride this year, and am on the research phase of motorcycles.
@gm16v149
@gm16v149 10 жыл бұрын
I've had my '91 1200 Sporty for over 20 years but when they come out the factory, they don't go, handle or stop, at least the earlier ones like mine don't. I put on Koni shocks, Progressive front springs, fork brace, PM brakes, SE floating discs, and did a lot of work on the engine including cams, single fire ignition, headwork, balancing and truing the crank etc and now it is a great bike and it is a sleeper as well because I didn't change it in the looks department. I am pretty sure the Bolt would come out the factory without needing all this work to make it a good bike, but let's face it, it is a Sportster copy, and I would rather have the real thing.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
gm16v149 Sounds like you've made an awesome bike out of your 1200. 20 years, that's a good long time to keep a bike. You should post a video on it sometime... I'd love to see it! Thanks for watching and posting an awesome comment!
@gm16v149
@gm16v149 10 жыл бұрын
Shawn Smoak Yeah well I'm just about to go for a ride because it's a nice day (90 deg) and I've just bought a GoPro so I'll get around to it sooner or later. Btw I'll bet the weather atm isn't like in your video lol. Probably silly question but what state are you from?
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, 90 degrees! It'll be a while before we see anything like that... That would be cool if you get around to GoPro'n a ride! I live in Washington state...
@mcgoo721
@mcgoo721 10 жыл бұрын
So glad yamaha made this bike. I'd almost consider the iron 883, if anyone else but harley made it. They'd also have to put less worthless brakes on it, but by now that might be fixed.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
Cool motorcycle for sure! I haven't had any issues with the brakes on my sportsters, but they were vastly improved for 2014... I should have waited a few months for the 2014's to come out! I'm going to pick up a 2014 Sportster Forty-Eight in the next month or so. So I'll get the new brakes, but I just wish they were on my Iron. Get yourself a Bolt, you love it! I'm really starting to have a fancy for the green R-Spec's we just got it...! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@mcgoo721
@mcgoo721 10 жыл бұрын
It's been a little while since I test drove the Iron, so maybe your 2013 has a different setup still than what I rode. The main thing I have against HD is the culture and the mark up on used bikes. Riders are split, so many people own them it doesn't matter. However, sales reps/associates and parts managers are so irritating! And non riders get real annoying over a love of a product they'll never own. Every time I walk in to a Harley dealer, I get aggravated and it turns me off. People like you though are changing my mind. You reply to so many comments in an honest way, and your videos are on point. Then again, I think you're a tech and techs are always cool! If I could just talk to the mechanics directly at *any* dealership, I'd be happier.
@ShawnSmoak
@ShawnSmoak 10 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean about the HD culture! But those guys all shun Sportsters. Maybe that's what attracts me to them, the anti-culture... Lol Sorry to hear that you've had bad experiences at dealers. The four dealers in my area that I go to have been nothing but top notch! Half the guys working there don't even ride Harleys, and they're cool with that. I even showed up to the closest one north of me on a Can-Am Spyder and they didn't chase me off. They just asked about a million questions about it... All their parts and service prices are legal theft! I literally have ordered parts from their very own online store and selected in store pickup and saved almost 50%... Crazy markup! Some of the dealers around here have huge windows that you can watch the techs, but it's like trying to walk into Fort Knox try to speak with one... We are very open with that at our stores. Sadly, we don't sell Harley's though... We work on so many, you would think we did! When I decided to get an Iron, they were selling for more used than new! What is that? But anyway, culture or not, I love these little suckers for their stone reliability, build quality and fairly cheap parts when ordered online or aftermarket. They are crazy easy to perform maintenance on. Plus, just like the Bolt, they are just fun as hell to ride!
@jacspring7729
@jacspring7729 6 жыл бұрын
You need to check the Bolt v Iron Face-off vid - the Bolt leaves the Iron in the dust.
@jaywinters2483
@jaywinters2483 Жыл бұрын
Why can’t they make a decent suspension?
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