Did my best to cover all of my experiences with this HatField SAS shotgun. Thanks for watching! Cheers
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@randygloversrednecksupperg43911 ай бұрын
I bought the sas 20ga 2 years ago and have only had one hang up through about 250 rounds, I love it
@LongshoresOutdoors11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that! My sas 12 gauge runs flawless on Remington 2 3/4 birdshot… no issues. What ammo do you use in your 20 gauge?
@DaveRaveVideo2 ай бұрын
There have been at least 3 generations of the Hatfield SAS 12-gauge. I have a Gen-3 which has run perfectly since I got it in 2018 (after an initial break-in). The earlier generations had slightly different-looking fore-grips and required swapping gas piston rings depending on the load (e.g. bird-shot vs buckshot or magnum). The unit that I received in March, 2018 was (from what I understand through my correspondence with Hatfield) a Gen-3. All generations are made by the well-established Turkish manufacturer, UTAS. The older versions seemed to have had problems with the walnut fore-grip cracking and poor reliability cycling. The Gen-3 that I have runs like a champ with everything that I feed it (mostly cheap, bulk Winchester or Federal target loads, buckshot, & slugs), and it doesn't require changing the gas piston ring for different loads. Despite some negative online reviews, I decided to risk buying a Hatfield SAS 12-gauge due to its irresistible price. (At the time I didn't know about the various generations and improvements.) As soon as I unboxed it, I gave it a thorough cleaning, because some reviews warned that there would be a fair amount of metal shavings from the factory milling. (There were, and that's not good.) When I took it to the range, I loaded it up with five 2-3/4" Federal bulk #8-shot shells and commenced fire. Two of the first 5 failed to cycle properly and I thought, "Uh-oh." However, since then, I have fired about 1000 2-3/4" shells (from #8-shot to 00 buckshot to slugs, all ~1200 fps) without a single failure to fire or to cycle. (I've mostly used cheap, bulk 2-3/4" Federal or Winchester #7.5-#8 shot.) However, initially I did have a lot of trouble getting 3" (1200 fps Winchester 00 buckshot) shells to cycle. The spent 3" shells would eject but the next shell wouldn't fully chamber, requiring an extra push on the charging handle to move the shell fully into the chamber. I was able to solve this problem by manually cycling (without firing) 3" shells through it about 100 times (manually pushing the charging-handle forward, if necessary) in order to break it in. Now it also reliably cycles 3" shells-- not that I've shot more than about 30 of the shoulder-punishing 3" 00-buckshot 1200 fps Winchester shells that I bought. I'm very happy with my Hatfield SAS 12-guage. From what I can tell, it performs like $1000 semiautomatic shotguns (not that I'm a connoisseur). It was easily worth the sub $300 price that I paid in 2018. Great value. Fun to shoot. Easy to smoke double-clays. There are a lot of bad reviews online, but I think most of those are from Gen-1 & Gen-2 owners. If Hatfield marketed these 3rd generation models under a different model name or made it clear that they're new-improved Gen-3's (so that prospective buyers could ignore the online reviews for the older versions), Hatfield would sell a whole lot more of these. By the way, according to Hatfield, Beretta/Benelli Mobil chokes work on this shotgun.
@micahgoble4866 Жыл бұрын
I have had mine for 3 years I use it for duck hunting and I use 3” federal steel it does great but today I had a little pin break under the bolt but it was a quick fix I love this gun!
@LongshoresOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I had the same little pin break as well. Ended up using a broken drill bit to fix it! Glad you love yours as well!
@frankshelton89128 ай бұрын
My 12 G does nothing but Jam had problems with the O-ring which is not even a listed part that is inside the gas valve these things are a piece of junk the only thing you can use them for is a club I will never buy a Hatfield again
@LongshoresOutdoors8 ай бұрын
I can relate with your frustration. However, I recommend sending it back to Hatfield if you haven’t had it longer than a year. It is a limited warranty of only 1 year. (which is short) I sent mine back with complaints; and they were able to get a specialist to get it working great. Plus they added a couple parts my model was missing. Though I have had to work on it more than any other shotgun it is still one of my favorites.
@cjegglie2 ай бұрын
Only problem with mine is failure to eject on the first shot on a cold morning. After I take my “first shot” at a nonexistent duck clear the failure never another issue.
@georgiaboyfishing72403 ай бұрын
I've had mine for 4years out of the box no issues
@lodilogistic50898 ай бұрын
I have the same gun. I rabbit hunt with it shooting #4 mostly and not a single hang up.
@williamkowalchik57211 ай бұрын
Mine almost broke my thumb trying to get shells in it very minor problem. Second use shells 1oz or heavier 1250 fps or better. Third push the release button when even you load the first shell. Remember it s $200 dollar gun not 2,000.
@andrewcheff4035 Жыл бұрын
I have the single and love it. That is a pretty good looking SAS.! Cool video. Good info🙏
@Mountainandmolehill Жыл бұрын
Just got one of these. Waiting on it to ship to my ffl.
@LongshoresOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hope it works well for you! Thanks for commenting! Cheers
@ducksanddeer Жыл бұрын
@@LongshoresOutdoors so got mine in. Have not shot it yet. I notice my foregrip nut does not click like yours. Just seems to screw on. Haven’t fully disassembled yet.
@rbrown2647 ай бұрын
i have done that i put bluing on the bolt assembly. to see any rubbing i do not see any
@justindepratt35622 ай бұрын
Ive got a Hatfield 12 gauge that shoots 2 3/4 all the way up to 3 1/2 inch and never had a problem with it
@wcate830111 ай бұрын
I have the 12 and the 20, and both have issues. The 12's bolt sometimes doesn’t have enough blowback inertia to fully operate the cam that drives the feed mechanism, so the bolt rebounds forward prematurely, catching the spent shell in the ejection port. The 20 seems to have weak extractor jaws, as sometimes they lose their grip on the shell before it quite clears the chamber. Both guns have been exposed to loads from 1180 to 1350 fps. Ideas, anyone?
@LongshoresOutdoors11 ай бұрын
I have those issues with mine when I use any other ammo.. Remington shotgun shells have fixed those issues for me!
@bobou8126 ай бұрын
Yes , our 13 gouage miss feeds and jams often. It's a beautiful gun, but will not feed well
@bobou8126 ай бұрын
😮typo.... 12 guage
@sheffieldoutfitters7776 Жыл бұрын
My cap doesn’t click I bought it last night but I love it so far
@rbrown2647 ай бұрын
i put a new bottom bolt assembly in it today and a new pin assembly in jt still binging up. i can trigger for 60$ i don't want to keep spending money on it
@dewaynereynolds822810 ай бұрын
I have all four of them. The 12 gauze won't cycle low brass. 20 gauze works great with any ammo. 28 has been my worse. 410 won't cycle hardly any ammo
@LongshoresOutdoors10 ай бұрын
They can be very picky. I’ve had the best luck running Remington 12 gauge shells through mine. Thank you for sharing! 🙏
@sirmykal97645 ай бұрын
I have the 28 ga. $200 worth of frustration. I'm taking it to the pawn shop or using it for a boat anchor. Parts breaking, forend cracked. Just not a good gun.
@jahunterplus2809 Жыл бұрын
Nice review and great video
@SantiagoJerez_nyc Жыл бұрын
Nice review, have you tried using it for deer hunting?
@lillylitz2813 Жыл бұрын
Yes I have and it worked fine ,I have a Sas 12 and a 20 GA, both work well with 2 and 3/4 inch slugs ,good shooting folks.
@killaking23006 ай бұрын
Can you add a tube extension to this gun?
@daveriola1632 ай бұрын
You can add a magazine extension but the shotgun would need some modification. The screw-thread for the SAS magazine cap is the same thread-pitch as that of the popular Remington 870. However, I think it is unlikely that you could use most 870 magazine extension tubes on the Hatfield SAS (unless you bore-out the wooden fore-grip) because the outside diameter of such extension tubes is likely to be too wide to fit inside the fore-grip's cap-hole. (My Remington 870 magazine extension tube does not't fit inside the fore-grip, but can be spun onto the magazine without the fore-grip.) However, if extending the magazine is of interest, it MIGHT be possible to add a Taccom3g solution whereby you add an extension nut that enables the addition of a Tagcom extension tube. Nordic Components offers a similar system. Some minor gun smithing would also be required to grind-off the shell-stop at the muzzle-end of the magazine.
@toyman81 Жыл бұрын
My spacer has 2 small screws that hold it on, I put some blue loctite on it. Just wondering why you do not use them.
@LongshoresOutdoors Жыл бұрын
To my understanding, i have the 1st generation design. The 2nd gen model came with the spacer. When I sent mine back to HatField to be repaired, they added the spacer to my 1st gen receiver which I don’t believe has the screw holes. They didn’t include screws either hah.
@toyman81 Жыл бұрын
@@LongshoresOutdoors ok, Thanks You!
@rbrown2647 ай бұрын
it seems when i put the pin in trigger group it starts binding.
@ronalddavis9 ай бұрын
damn it ripping the shells apart?
@LongshoresOutdoors9 ай бұрын
Winchester shells get ripped in half. Federals do okay. Remington shells do the best in my experience. Hardly ever any issues with the Remington shells.
@fineartonfire_53279 ай бұрын
Secondly, an ounce of lead is an ounce of lead!!! Doesn’t matter if it’s in a 2.75 or 3 or 3.5” box/shell, an ounce is still an ounce!!! And YES, longer shells do have slightly more powder. But more power only makes the shot spread wider and faster. So the ONLY “benefit” of longer shells is more kick and more rice hull/millet filler and more chances to miss. Due to the wider shot pattern. So could someone PLEASE tell me the REAL reason everyone wastes money on 3.5 guns???
@tbjtbj47866 ай бұрын
Because all of them don't use just a oz of lead. With a 3 1/2 10ga or 12ga you can 18 pellets of 00 Instead of 8 or 12 And 54 #1 instead of 24 of them. And some of the 12ga 3 1/2 you were able to get 2 3/4 oz of shot
@fineartonfire_53279 ай бұрын
SAS isn’t a model. It stands for “semi automatic shotgun”.
@rbrown2647 ай бұрын
i have a sas20 gauge and the bolt stays open when you push the button to close it it moves a quater of a inch and will not move. any help thanks
@LongshoresOutdoors7 ай бұрын
Take it apart & see if you can find any damaged or broken parts. Clean each part as best you can and then put a few drops of new motor oil on the firing pin assembly / “bolt”.
@rbrown2647 ай бұрын
I found a piece of shell pusher in it and it works good now thanks
@LongshoresOutdoors7 ай бұрын
@@rbrown264 yep.. I’ve had shotgun shell remnants get stuck in the action
@levianderson4148 Жыл бұрын
Where’s the dang serial number on these guns. I’ve got one in my hands and can’t find it