Hawk 250 Loncin RE250 6 speed Engine Transplant and Upgrade

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Hawk 250 Loncin RE250 6 speed Engine Transplant and Upgrade

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Jack of All Master of None

Күн бұрын

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@williammoss1310 3 жыл бұрын

I've done 2 Chinesium engine swaps on BOTH my 1972 Honda CB100s. One Lifan 200CC OHV and one 250CC OHC Shineray engine. I absolutely LOVE THEM!! If I had known about the 6 speed Loncin, I would've done that swap. Badass bike BTW!! 👍

@lukemanius 4 жыл бұрын

Great project. What a legend.

@Muscleupsanddangles 3 жыл бұрын

I would be very concerned about zero clearancing the from of that motor. Over time, the expansion and contraction of heat cycling, the vibration, impact shocks, etc. could very well end up cracking the case(s). Nevertheless, very cool project and I hope it works great for you and brings you joy and pride. Thanks for sharing.

@duckman2667 4 жыл бұрын

Great Job! I have been following the thread on Chinariders and have been very interested in this mod.As well as have other people. I have posted on the forum that you put This video on KZfaq. You have answered a lot of questions for us. Thank you very much.

@JOEYHIPHOP2008 3 жыл бұрын

It's a good thing to have the knowledge of the wiring harness . This is the first time I've seen a wire harness swap to another wire harness compatible and very similar .you made it look so easy . I'm glad you didn't give up on your clutch issue that was something new to me also. I've never owned or worked on a motorcycle but now I could see what I would be getting into. Thanks for sharing the knowledge 🏍️ ⚓🎥🎬

@user-gdxt-7399 4 жыл бұрын

I do know that Loncin manufactures the engines that go in BMW 650s and the twins that go in BMW 750s and 800s, among others. To a different spec, obvs.

@duckman2667 4 жыл бұрын

I just subscribed to your channel and can not wait until you post the break in video and first ride.

@claytonchristophersen1633 3 жыл бұрын

Clutch plates are usually soaked in oil before they are fitted they can stick together a s Unit . Roll start and slam into 2nd usually frees them .

@Ben-wj4rq 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video and very informative. If I ever blew my motor or gearbox in my hawk I would definitely go this route. Thanks for sharing

@daveheimes241 4 жыл бұрын

Great job! I have looked into that engine also. I would love to have another gear on the hawk.

@michaeldean1985 4 жыл бұрын

First time I've liked a video before I watched it. 👀👌

@ngzcaz 4 жыл бұрын

As the Ad says on TV... Its your money, spend it the way you like. It will be interesting how it turns out for sure..

@kylebankes4672 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing you videos fellow southeast Ohio hawk rider here and I've had my hawk 2 1/2 years now and did all mods available, I've put 7,000+ mile on it so far and love it but I've wanted to do a OHC engine for a while now! My wife has a crf230f and having them side by side I've noticed it can be done, too bad I can't steal hers lol. You saved me a lot of R&D so I appreciate it be safe out there!

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

It was a cool upgrade and as it breaks in, I'm gaining horsepower but I'm not sure it was worth the expense.but yes a crf230f drivetrain is basically the same as the loncin. In fact I've been swapping over Honda parts lately.

@richardtschida2321 3 жыл бұрын

That is a very ambitious project you had there.

@jamest.5001 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing is "worth it" in the custom world, but if it's worth it to you is what matters!! I want one of these bikes, maybe get a bit crazy and swap a 250 ninja engine in it or something, I'd like to build a kinda super moto/cafe racer type bike based on one, maybe swap a DR650 engine into it, just depends on what us available when ever if I ever get one, I do have a 200cc China bike, i intended to do something with, but life put that off the stove all together, never mind the back burner!! But I have wanted a DR 650 since about 1993

@superdon1chw 4 жыл бұрын

I like your style fellow Hawk owner

@ME262MKI 4 жыл бұрын

You should change those rear hud bushings, those with rubber and metal are the worst, when the rubber wears out too much the inner metal cylinder can cut the bolts of the rear sproket, it happend to me like 2 times until i changed to ones made of some kind of plastic, that was 3 years ago and have no issues at all and the bolts keep fitting like they were new

@JacksonWestfall 4 жыл бұрын

Neat video! Thanks documenting the entire build.

@eddiespagetti8395 2 жыл бұрын

Wow 9 days from China. Yes that's fed ex service. Any reg post would take 2 months or so. I just got some supplements took 6 weeks from China and this is fast. Wow 9 days is record. Enjoy

@jfdashley9028 4 жыл бұрын

Nice job, well explained.

@bearatak322 4 жыл бұрын

Good job Z!

@WICKEDGIXXERL 4 жыл бұрын

Cool you have a spare engine..

@REDCLAYHOMESTEAD 4 жыл бұрын

Man that awsome.

@bobbycigarillo 4 жыл бұрын

Cool project! I think a bore kit or getting the head done on the new 6 speed would be a cool project and super beneficial.

@gil8132 2 жыл бұрын

no it will not work becaue the wall are to thin to shave down is really for cars no jinjashit

@lowccperformance4059 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the largest big bore I found is 235cc so only an increase of 5cc the best mods for this engine is def going to be the head port and cam.

@derrickwatts2495 4 жыл бұрын

I can't want to see the next video I'm very impressed.

@fredo7482 4 жыл бұрын

It's very cool I wanna get one for going to work 10 min drive.

@gary2785 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, I'm swapping a CG 229 (Hawk engine) 4 spd w/ reverse into my Ice Bear PST150 (GY6)Trike, looks like a lil vasoline and a shoehorn will do the trick since you showed me which wires were which. Wish they'd put a wiring diagram in with the engines.

@jamest.5001 3 жыл бұрын

But looking on the bright side, if it totally gets skrued up in the process, it isn't going to cost too much to start over with a new bike! But then how bad could it be! A grinder and welder, (+ a bit of effort) can fix about anything!!

@grajalesracingteam5242 3 жыл бұрын

Port and polish the head bra be the first haven't seen it done yet!!

@carlosg1165 4 жыл бұрын

Keihin is gtreat great

@boblong3296 4 жыл бұрын

Can i get the old motor could use it for a project i got

@thoughtsfromaidiot5928 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much better this would be in a CCW misfit.

@derrickwatts2495 4 жыл бұрын

I think your doing good I looking at doing something similar to my TaoTao TBR7. Before I try the new engine I want to do a turbo kit.

@viovillanueva7902 4 жыл бұрын

I like the enthusiam 😁

@Aventuras_en_Moto_Hn 3 ай бұрын

Awesome!!!!!

@sevenscents1109 4 жыл бұрын

I never mess with the front sprocket' Try putting the old one back on an play with the rear, like a 49 from a 52 per say, and so forth, would be very noticeable in 6th. But try staying with the rear till it's broken in. Idk

@lutherwilliammee4817 Жыл бұрын

Snap ring goes on one way

@vtwinaddicted5852 4 жыл бұрын

Great content!!!

@muskrat91 4 жыл бұрын

did you order the engine with the wiring harness and cable tree or just the basic engine kit?

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

With the harness

@MrGuitarguyadam 4 жыл бұрын

The keihin carbs are a lot better than the stock china carbs.

@bertbccfu9564 2 жыл бұрын

Keihen carbs comes stock on a lot of Harley Davidson's I have a keihin on my 87 xlh1100

@factdesignbr 4 жыл бұрын

The whole chemical industry testing got me scared lol

@hectorcolon419 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds great.

@mrcla55yguy20 2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome you did an engine swap. Was that the clutch plate lifter you had to swap out at the end? I’d really love to see how the new engine is going

@JackofAllMasterofNone 2 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't need to swap anything out. The engine I bought just had a defective part in it.

@RyanRyan 3 жыл бұрын

The yamaha xg250 clones aka magician 250 aka triker 250 now come with the lincon 6 speed engine. Total cost is about 1800usd for the xg250 clone with lincon engine, sounds like a deal, I might buy one.

@karras6239 Жыл бұрын

39:10 lol, zanella is a local company here in argentina that also uses chinise engines.

@galaxiegalaxie5003 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video thanks, could you tell us how is this engine,any problem, heating issues etc?what is your recommendation?

@derrickbasenberg811 3 жыл бұрын

I have both engines and the hawk engine is way more reliable and bullet proof

@williammoss1310 3 жыл бұрын

Do your thing, CHICKEN WING!!!!

@Tbone0163 4 жыл бұрын

Nice job!

@Johnclark300 3 жыл бұрын

You could have swapped the stator with the engines the stators are the same I upgraded a GY6 49cc scooter and the stock 150 stator connection was different so I did a little looking at the difference between the 150 stator and the 49cc stator the only difference was the connection. So I took off the 150cc stator from the 150cc engine and put the 49cc stator on the 150cc engine and it's still running today I did the project 6 months ago it's a fast little scooty do

@johnbeaudette583 2 жыл бұрын

Have you checked the MPG difference between the stock and the loncin ?

@maldog4303 4 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👍👍👍Excellent job!

@agawdsparadise3782 3 жыл бұрын

Aw i liked the green lol other than that looks good man

@Kdog307 3 жыл бұрын

nice work

@kevinkev1530 3 жыл бұрын

👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@camarols6712 3 жыл бұрын

i would do this to ....... great upgrade

@vladimpaler9274 2 жыл бұрын

Affordable kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNSahbGrnZexdqc.html

@reysdatnig 4 жыл бұрын

Nice ma im plaining to do the 4 valve zs177mm engine in my apollo 250rx.. Is ur bike alot faster? Wats ur top speed? Must b nice to have dat extra gear

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

It's more powerful throughout the rev range, but still underpowered. Not a lot faster either. Top speed is around 70mph.

@jimhayes4543 4 жыл бұрын

GREAT! job - This project was more intense than I would have imagined. I started a thread on chinariders.net about this (liferider) trying to understand what the options were. YOU DID IT! I opted to just mill and port a new Head that I have just started on. Noticed your new engine has what looked like a EGR port on the new engine and it is on the new head that I ordered from Brozz250.com. My Hawk DLX does not have this machined. Do I just cap it off or should I do more? any help? Subscribed and look forward to more...

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. You can just cap it off

@gsixeight4414 3 ай бұрын

Where does the large red wire connect from the starter motor to? The battery or the ignition coil?

@alexsbikesandmotors 2 жыл бұрын

You couldve got a really nice used japanese dual sport bike for how much you spent on the hawk and that engine

@JackofAllMasterofNone 2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@saratogadasher4406 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to have a hawk week or some sort of rally for just hawks. If this is a thing please let me know because I would be interested

@trucker2b 4 жыл бұрын

The RE250 is good but I found a 4 valve 250cc engine that claims 25hp over stock... the funny part is I did so many name researches that the cg25 is actually renamed buy shineray so then I did some research and shineray engine department and they have a 250cc engine that's the one I'm talking about but it looks way too big for the chassis

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

That would be a cool engine choice but you would need to study the dimensions carefully. The RE250 had zero clearance as is. I would imagine that the size of the DOHC valve cover area would be an issue with clearance. I did look at this as an option.

@2nd_coming 3 ай бұрын

dude where did you get that awesome seat for the hawk? it looks sooo much more comfortable, then the original ones i just got into these motorcycles purchased a 2023 hawk X 250 last week and i love it, everything about the bike just not the seat lol! it sucks after 30 minutes of driving.

@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 ай бұрын

CSC Motorcycles TT250 seat

@peezygainz9098 3 жыл бұрын

I have 350 miles on my hawk dlx and im having problems with slipping and the clutch makes noise when the enigine is reved

@mregulater 2 жыл бұрын

good video just wondering why you didnt just get a replacement engine was it not availeable?

@JackofAllMasterofNone 2 жыл бұрын

There was nothing wrong with the stock engine. I did this just because.

@bratman99 2 жыл бұрын

That clutch problem is a deal breaker for me...

@JackofAllMasterofNone 2 жыл бұрын

It's not really a problem. No one else I know of has had an issue. Just one poorly machined part unfortunately.

@grillzbytroy8870 13 күн бұрын

Did u have the counter balanced hawk before the new motor? I want to do the swap on mine but I think my 22 hawk dlx isn’t the counterbalance version and on the listing for the 6 speed 250 it says it won’t fit without me cutting and welding new mounts so I’m curious if u had the non counterbalance version

@JackofAllMasterofNone 12 күн бұрын

I had to cut and weld, as seen in the video. The original Hawk engine was not counter balanced

@AboxofMonsters 4 жыл бұрын

How much did this engine cost ?? Been two months you like ?

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

Not worth the money so far, but it was a cool project. About 700 dollars

@christopherblair3667 2 жыл бұрын

This engine is also known as the lx166fmm

@christopherjenssen2167 4 жыл бұрын

I just picked one up used. Lot of valve clatter/noise coming from the top end. I already changed the oil. Anything I can adjust or do I need a top end rebuild probably? Thx for any info, sweet bike. 👍👍

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

Adjust the valves.

@christopherjenssen2167 4 жыл бұрын

@@JackofAllMasterofNone awesome, I watched a few videos. I'm going to do that today. Thanks!! 😊

@freedomisntfree_44 4 жыл бұрын

Probably could do this on the Tao Tao dbx7 as well 🤔

@bobbyt223 Жыл бұрын

I know this is an old video, but I’ve been looking at swapping mine with this engine. Did it only come in black or did you have an option?

@JackofAllMasterofNone Жыл бұрын

The one I bought only came in black but I think they have silver also

@michaelschaefer9554 Жыл бұрын

Can I get a link 🔗 to purchase the same engine? Thanks 🙏

@mrcla55yguy20 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know where to find a stator side cover cap and gasket for the hawk?

@brettwatsonphoto 4 жыл бұрын

Hey there, sent you a PM through chinariders forum.... hoping you can answer a question or two. Thnx

@ksnipes24 4 жыл бұрын

Great info here! I live in Honduras and ride a rebranded Loncin SX2 which is equipped with the RE250. Have you done a valve adjustment? If so, what clearances did you use? The bike was purchased from a dealership but they didn't supply a manual!

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

I did do a valve check. I believe I used 0.003 for both.

@lesterlouise9627 4 жыл бұрын

The heck!? That looks exactly like the xr150l.

@napadaanlng69 Жыл бұрын

By any chance that the engine you bought RE250 can be upgraded to a higher displacement?

@sadro4591 Жыл бұрын

It can be but you need a bigger cylinder and adapt the timing chain, you would need to find a compatible cylinder or modify the one it has

@grownman5725 3 жыл бұрын

Where did you find wiring information on the RE250?

@johndaviddejesus7524 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, where can I order that clutch pin of hawk 250. I also need that

@mattrubincan3016 2 жыл бұрын

Can you add a 300cc big bore kit to it

@jeremyumstead58 11 ай бұрын

Question...I bought the zongshen counter balanced 6speed version.same thing basically But my question is: my regulator is exact same as yours with the 3 yellow wire but my yellow wires from engine are only 2..should I just tie 2 of the 3 yellow regulator wired together and plug engine yellow wired into it?? Does it matter what 2 I splice??

@JackofAllMasterofNone 11 ай бұрын

No you cannot do that. You may have a DC stator and your system is AC on a hawk

@jeremyumstead58 11 ай бұрын

@JackofAllMasterofNone yea, engine is dc , hawk is ac..those yellow wires are supposedly interchangeable..any recommendations on what to do? Do I need to utilize that 3rd yellow wire off the stator? Can I nit just plug the 2 yellow engine wires into the 3 yellow wire stator and it be good?

@mauriciogarcia3332 3 жыл бұрын

Would you be willing to sell the old engine and if you cant do yo know where can i find one?

@gregsteele9002 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the hawk 250 came with knobbier tires, those look like the tires off the new 250 dlx fuel injected Hawk

@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 жыл бұрын

It does come with knobby tires. I replaced them with 50/50 shinko 700s.

@aceventura7064 4 жыл бұрын

isnt it a CB clone ? my brozz make a bunch more torque in cooler weather ,its shocking , plus releasing some of the exhaust pres. , if you could water cool it some in hot weather I may just sprits a liter bottle on it , sure needs it on big hills

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

The engine is a CRF230f engine clone

@aceventura7064 4 жыл бұрын

@@JackofAllMasterofNone what year?

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

@@aceventura7064 The Hawk is a 2019. Engine is brand new also. If you mean what year is it a clone of, it would be a circa 2007 Honda engine

@aceventura7064 4 жыл бұрын

@@JackofAllMasterofNone No its a 92 93 CB250 Aircooled clone , just smaller bore

@aceventura7064 4 жыл бұрын

@@JackofAllMasterofNone that is a water jacket engine the cb 250 is air cooled like the brozz is it stated on the importer site it was a 92-93 cb 250 i'm saying you are wrong

@christiancampbell3523 4 жыл бұрын

Worried about heat transfer and vibration

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

Is that a question or a statement?

@factdesignbr 4 жыл бұрын

Can't find them for thatcheap anymore...cheaper I found was like 1600usd lol not gooood...any lights on thatbrother? For 500ish for that extra gear... Ohc...Im in

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

The price on eBay went up big time recently. Probably due to everything that is going on right now. Hopefully they will go back down soon.

@factdesignbr 4 жыл бұрын

@@JackofAllMasterofNone so true... I use 17F/40R on my Hawk. I always carry a set of tools for every vehicle...it ain't different with the Hawk. So when I do some mixed on/off roading. 17/40 is good. You gotta keep on working the clutch though ahhahaha. But when it gets a bit too hard... I use the 15. I can totally swap it on spot within 5 minutes. So I always keep the 17/40 a bit towards the tight side for me a my big camping bag... So when Im commuting or have someone else with me it doesn't get too tight. The adjustable rear shock helps alot with that. And when I put the 15F withthe40 it gets a lil on the loose side of things... Not loose enough to get noisy or dangerous... And with the 17 not tight enought to get noisy(click click click sound) or dangerous either... There's always a middle ground for everything. As well as my 2 way system.intake and exhaust. Quiet or noisy(performance) anyways the 17/40 is keeping 65mph at 6500 I can push it a lil bit and go faster but I dont see the need. It's pretty confortable smooth ride. Anyways... That 6gear engine would be perfect with the kick start

@lowccperformance4059 Жыл бұрын

I got an identical engine to yours except mines silver and not loncin branded but mine didn’t come with a voltage regulator rectifier am I able to use the stock one on my TBR7?

@JackofAllMasterofNone Жыл бұрын

No. The stock tbr uses a AC rectifier and this engine uses a DC system

@lowccperformance4059 Жыл бұрын

@@JackofAllMasterofNone thank you for the response!! Is there an eBay listing for a compatible dc unit? Your a life saver thanks bro 🙏

@jajaromain Жыл бұрын

Where can I order motor mounts for this bike

@chrisrichtermindset 4 жыл бұрын

Nice bike where did you get that seat cover?

@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 жыл бұрын

Amazon. It's a universal ATV seat cover

@RaveGamingCommunity 3 жыл бұрын

humm interesting video wiring looks like a pain in the balls

@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 жыл бұрын

It's not too bad. Was just a little challenging because it was so different than the original and wasn't a plug and play operation.

@LotusofNesingwary 2 жыл бұрын

What jack stand is that?

@MrRussianAk 2 жыл бұрын

Any thoughts on taking a hawk and cbr or klx engine and putting it on the hawk chassis

@JackofAllMasterofNone 2 жыл бұрын

Would be cool but I'm not planning on doing so any time soon

@MrRussianAk 2 жыл бұрын

@@JackofAllMasterofNone well I was thinking about more for myself.

@JackofAllMasterofNone 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRussianAk The problem will be the frame clearance. This CB engine was about the max. I thought about trying a liquid cooled CRF250F or the new 300 but I doubt it would go without major modifications.

@grajalesracingteam5242 3 жыл бұрын

#197cc lifan 26mm Mikuni 100 jet half muffler no baffle lots of pops and crackles on decel lol😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣