Hayward Maxflo VS Pool Pump Motor Drive Unit Repair - Part 1

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Retro Tech & Electronics

Retro Tech & Electronics

Жыл бұрын

**Please be aware that voltages found in this unit should be handled by experienced individuals only**
While viewing the readings of my pool a day after adding salt, I had realized that the control panel was blank with no power indication. This happened after some bad weather though all power was secured during this event and we had no power issues at that time. I will however cut off power to my main breaker as I prepare to open the cover of the unit to conduct some basic troubleshooting.
Most know from my previous video that my faceplate has been remoted, and the top of the pump has a blank faceplate. The cover removal exposes my AC connection as well as my connections to the remote faceplate. With the re-application of power a quick check on AC shows that the correct AC voltage is in fact making its way to the pump. Sadly this is going to be a Pump issue and not a simple breaker issue. A DC voltage check on the faceplate lines shows a strange low voltage fluctuation that is definitely not looking good.
With these findings it was time to cut power and disconnect the cables from the pump. The water, seen in the water tight area where the cables were removed is a sign of things to come. Id set everything up fr the pump to be easily removed, it took but two minutes to pull after the cabled were disconnected after all plugs pulled and everything drained. Since its coming inside, the pump was washed to remove all sorts of accumulated crud.
Set up inside the house the first order of business was the removal of the fan shroud. One screw was rusted and snapped off. The wife had complained it was loud and we found that the debris was causing it. The motor itself was spun and felt really good. Whatever is going on, its not a binding motor or bearing issue.
Unscrewing of the top cover begins, the center screw is dealt with very carefully as its filled with water and rust, cleaned and oiled for later. T25 anti tamper is used for the cover bolts on the underside, allowing its removal. Its a good idea to check the filter caps at this point before continuing because they can hold a considerable charge after an hour and ruin your day. Waiting is key.
Initial observation shows that a water leak has been going on for a very long time, its origin not yet known. The oxidation on the aluminum is a tell tale sign. While drying out the middle screw, soaking in oil, is carefully removed. Two further screws on the side are removed that secure the drive unit. Followed by T15 bolts that secure the board into the housing, 5 of those. A T10 removed the heat sink screws. Even with all this, there are several components held on with mastic so it must be removed carefully. Finally the board is separated by a four pin connector.
With the board removed the full extent of the damage inside can be seen, all on the left side where the caps are. Also it is evident that Capacitor C6 has exploded and a note is made. A determine is made from historical footage as to why only half of the unit filled with water. Attempts are made to clean the destroyed capacitor to get a marking off of it but its too far gone. The capacitor was then removed from the board, the are cleaned up.
Troubleshooting then begins working from mains back. Through a variety of components in a logical order making my way to the rectifier. Note that during testing I didn't need 240 volts but substantially less was used from my Variac , around 45VAC, low enough voltage to prove out the rectifier and basic filtration.
Making my way to the IC TNY274 I was able to further analyze the switch mode power supply with the documentation as well as the inclusion of a temporary capacitor where the old one was ruined. The drain and enable pin and DC output shows an artifact that demonstrates an over-current condition somewhere. Taking a quality guess showed a particular rectifier that might be the culprit, pulling it off the rails removed the protect condition from the TNY274 so its a good indication. The rails are checked and stable, this IC will need to be ordered and replaced.
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@user-yo4tb9zv9w
@user-yo4tb9zv9w Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is what I was looking for.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help.
@richardhocker9469
@richardhocker9469 Ай бұрын
Not sure if you discovered this yet, but the cap that blew was a panasonic 2.2uf 450V. I have a Tristar VS 900 that stopped working a week ago during a lightning storm. Same no power symptom as yours. I didnt check the 12V out on the RS485 port; didnt see your video until its in pieces on my table. I'm digging to find the problem. Nothing obvious yet. Wish me luck
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Ай бұрын
Very helpful, thank you.
@michaeldauria
@michaeldauria Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this! I am having a problem with a similar VS Pump wherein my display shows what the pump is doing, but I am no longer able to control the pump at all. Before i dive in and poke around, I am curious to see how the board goes back in while retaining all of the heatsink abilities
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
Follow up will be posted shortly
@PaulHitchcock-dj1ld
@PaulHitchcock-dj1ld 2 ай бұрын
The integrated power supply board that you showed in your video is the same one I have on my Hayward pump. My board burned up at the power connection and I am trying to find a way to purchase the board. Do you have any ideas? Should I go directly to Hayward?
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Ай бұрын
I done believe they sell it as a separate unit but you can try.
@quertize
@quertize Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. That enclosure design seems really be the source of the problem. Have you thought about heat cycling condensation as a source of that water? Sealed enclosure may with drop of air temperature suck air and have some condense inside. After few hundred daily cycles it can make a decent amount of water. It does not explain why one side was clear. Maybe sun makes it warmer there or something.
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics Жыл бұрын
The source of the leak was discovered. Though condensate would at some point cause that oxide on both sides of the aluminum given enough time if that was the culprit.
@Todayisthebest-ms1qv
@Todayisthebest-ms1qv 4 ай бұрын
Brand new Hayward vs pump. Dead control panel despite power to unit. Removed back plate and there is a red illuminated light under the green motherboard - even though breaker is off. Any idea?
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 4 ай бұрын
Start a troubleshooting regiment if you’re qualified.
@juanlucatero8670
@juanlucatero8670 9 ай бұрын
Can you work on the board Broke also
@retrotechandelectronics
@retrotechandelectronics 9 ай бұрын
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