How Fnatic Ruined Nemesis's Career

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hazmat

hazmat

Күн бұрын

What happened to Nemesis? Why is this European midlane prodigy not in a pro team? It all can be traced back to 2020 which can be arguably one of his toughest years.
Important context: Most of my claims come from a source that had first-hand experience and as well as player testimonies that suggest these events occured. I percieve this person to be a truthful, reliable actor. Essentially you have to rely on whether what I state is true or not, and I recognize that. You do what you will with the information provided to you.
+ Nemesis reacted to it and thought it was decently accurate with some minor inaccuracies! 😚
More Context / Corrections:
LS made a very big post on this video itself, have a look:
(copy paste this link after "youtube.com/")
watch?v=Ms1gcidGta4&lc=UgygXjEf91l9M5mOqCJ4AaABAg
- Moreover, Dardo stated in a podcast with Thorin in December of 2023 that the Nemesis REPLACEMENT leak was based on an inaccurate rumour posted on a website related to esports news and rumours. I'm guessing Nemesis sat on the news, and later leaked it after his tenure in Fnatic. This information came out in December of 2023, which is prior to my research date (October)
- Thorin also suggested that Wooloo is a non-credible actor. This video also came out in December of 2023, and was after my research period. As such, I did not know it. HOWEVER, it is important to note that in the claim Wooloo has specifically about the Selfmade drama is that
1. Up until that point, Thorin has shown that Wooloo can be unreliable and non-credible
2. As such, how do we know that the Selfmade post is then real
Corroborating statements suggest that Selfmade still was toxic (publicly: The Tolki Leak, and then of course my anonymous source).
- Bwipo FURTHER collaborated that Nemesis did have diet issues during Worlds 2020 (@: 01:52:51) • Bwipo about the Past, ...
- Bwipo is argued to not be a red player. I would argue otherwise via statements he made over in this video 7 months ago (relevant is 1-3 minutes). He provides how he thinks the game should be played which categorically is put in red. Being a red player isn't a flame. It just allows for dysfunctionality to happen easier: • Bwipo responds to LS c...
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TIMESTAMPS
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00:00 - Teaser
01:49 - Background
05:33 - 2019 Fnatic
06:48 - Beginning of the End (2020)
09:01 - Dysfunctionality - a mess
14:15 - Worlds 2020
21:32 - Aftermath
31:04 - Start of his Streaming Career
35:55 - Missed Opportunities
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@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
What's your thoughts on Nemesis's career? Was it all deserved, or does he deserve a second chance? Support me by buying cheap RP/battle passes/chests & more! 5% OFF COUPON CODE: "HAZ" 👉 skinfinity.lol/?rcid=cst_35a5af2b3cf4b1de3269b1
@jarodexists474
@jarodexists474 6 ай бұрын
Nemesis ruined Nemesis's career, every other player doesn't have the ego he has, and when they get dropped from a top team they resign for a worse team. Few examples are Jankos, Rekkles, Perkz, Mikyx, the list goes on. They join these slightly worse teams to keep proving themselves. Nemesis wouldn't take any contract, and now he's not played for so many years he's too high of a risk for most teams, and they teams that would gamble on him, he won't join.
@user-cf5cy8rb5y
@user-cf5cy8rb5y 6 ай бұрын
the thing at 14.30 is wrong. check thorins interview with Dardo. he says it is not true.
@user-cf5cy8rb5y
@user-cf5cy8rb5y 6 ай бұрын
also Rekkles did not want Nemesis to stay either. this is also proven by dardo comments.
@blami8
@blami8 6 ай бұрын
You can't say Fnatic ruined him when he always have offers he refuses
@L4R0X
@L4R0X 6 ай бұрын
@@user-cf5cy8rb5y Since when is 1 person saying something solid evidence for something being true or false? Especially when it's someone who'd say anything to cover himself since every team hes been on has had massive internal issues or just flatout ran into the ground
@LSXYZ9
@LSXYZ9 6 ай бұрын
Some stuff (pertaining to things referencing me) are inaccurate. I wasn't the one who contacted the consulate, there was a person involved I believe her name was Genie Kim (she did a lot of foreigner visa's in Korea for the past 10years). After making her aware of everything I believe she was the one who personally called. The GenG streamer pitch came after T1 was no longer possible and I was trying to figure out another way. That initial call w/ Arnold took place when I was still living at T1 HQ and I believe it was in the cafeteria the call took place initially. A group call with them was then later setup on Kakao Talk. The sponsorship part yes, Nemesis was brought under the same agency as me but not many sponsors were "given" or cut to him the way the video says. Some of my much larger sponsorships I did siphon money from my own contract in order to get him his own contract made and integrate him into the contracts (the super major one the siphon-contract happened with was Mobalytics, followed by what would have been ProGuides, and Skillcapped. A lot of sponsors we had were similar as we had the same agency). Some people might wonder "why do that", but as I stated multiple times on stream I was making hand-over-fist each month and Nemesis was my absolute best friend who I wanted to succeed and feel more comfortable in streaming/getting "brand" reputation (this is a thing where your agency can constantly reference that you've worked with X brands before and thus are more reputable as a brand sponsor). A lot of people constantly ask what happened between us between the obvious public information that we don't talk, and obviously I've stood by I won't discuss things publicly. At one point in my life he was my greatest friend. Despite being my greatest friend we certainly had arguments and disagreements as many friendships can have, and I was also less capable and equipped to handle situations like that compared to the current me of today. In my pursuit of certain things I would lose track of other important characteristics of friendship and there were many things I should've done differently/better in many isolated incidents. Couple this with the 2021 summer where a lot of personal hardships (several people very close to me unexpectedly died in a very short time span to one another) and my mental state lead to me leaving the Incheon house to move over an hour away to be w/ my S/O and "get away" from daily-LoL stuff further adding to my mental stress at that time. I would also say during this time period my unhealthy anxiety relationship w/ money matters lead to some other stickler situations that were certainly just stress inducing for anyone involved (that I can now after 1.5yrs of therapy and finding out I'm an autistic and how that means I quite literally don't perceive emotional situations the same way, allows me to help compartmentalize and handle better). I obviously won't talk about details or anything, nor will I elaborate further on anything that I wrote above. I've firmly stood by my stance that Nemesis is neither a toxic teammate from everything that I witnessed first hand as I was quite literally directly involved with Fnatic at several points in 2020, nor do I think a lot of negativity surrounding his reputation is accurate. He has been and will continue to likely be one of the best players the game has seen and it's very evident to anyone who watches him play. Despite our estrangement to one another now adays I have nothing but respect for him as a player and have only contrition remaining for my inability and ill-equippedness as a person to have been a better friend/person during that timeframe, I still detest anyone who would attempt to smear or undermine his achievements/skill in the game or how he is as a teammate etc. As always "actions over a prolonged period of time are infinitely most honest than any words a human can speak." This will ring true for all matters in life and if people ever want measure something. Scape-goating Nemesis the way he was done by FNC and FNC fans/socials etc is one of the most disturbing things that has happened to an elite player in western league. Edit - The FlyQuest thing would've never had me and Nemesis on the same roster(for aforementioned reasons), the pursuits happened at different times and I believe FlyQuest continued to try to pursue him even after I had declined.
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying some things, and sorry about the inaccuracies. Only so much you can say, generalise and assume when you research the topic at hand. Always massively respected you for your stance on this situation, providing clarity amid the storm and defending people who deserve it
@TornScaleYGO
@TornScaleYGO 6 ай бұрын
I don't know you but the Video did paint you in a rather good light. It's good to see you are a genuine person, but maybe try saying sorry. Losing friends is excruciating, repair what's broken if it can be fixed. Much love to you all.
@lucianovellend2167
@lucianovellend2167 6 ай бұрын
As a former professional sport player, people like Nemesis and LS seem to be the perfect teammates, it baffles me how much humans can have a “sheep” mentality and blindly follow everything they hear/see from others, nothing but respect and love to you lads! Stay strong, amazing and true to yourselves, you rock guys!
@foolwhodreams
@foolwhodreams 6 ай бұрын
King Behavior.
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS 6 ай бұрын
very eloquent thank u mr last shadow
@stuhiii
@stuhiii 6 ай бұрын
wow respect to LS for doing so much to help others in this weird ass esports environment
@xxargonautxx9790
@xxargonautxx9790 6 ай бұрын
people can hate the guy all they want and yes he can see the world differently. Autistic too but LS is a kind guy that puts himself out there to help people for just helping them.
@Dyna1One
@Dyna1One 6 ай бұрын
LS is an absolute gem who doesn't fuck around and supports those who need it whether you like his personality or not
@Dionisisdenis
@Dionisisdenis 6 ай бұрын
If only he didn't clown himself by attacking Nightblu3 and dying on that hill.
@UszatyCDF
@UszatyCDF 6 ай бұрын
@@Dionisisdenis u mean that pedo nightblu3 that toxic rat?
@JRUDK
@JRUDK 6 ай бұрын
@@Dionisisdenis I mean NB3 is ass.
@BayCyst
@BayCyst 6 ай бұрын
I never liked Nemesis much, but after watching a lot of his hot takes on league meta and seeing how high he's been climbing in Korea, you can't help but respect the guy.
@Jojifans
@Jojifans 6 ай бұрын
better late than never. He's been reaching rank 1 korea two-three years in a roll now. He's actually insane.
@BayCyst
@BayCyst 6 ай бұрын
Oh wow I didn't realize he was practically holding rank 1 hostage lol that's insane dedication AND skill. I hope everything works out for him@@Jojifans
@nikonFB1988
@nikonFB1988 6 ай бұрын
Being #1 in a video game that will eventually go away is not really that amazing as you have to look at what he sacrificed to do it. When LoL eventually dies and he looks back on his accomplishments, do you think he will say it's worth it based off what all he gave up to do it? I think if he's being honest with himself, the answer will be an easy no. Ppl that do this are usually running away from something and have an unhealthy relationship with the game.
@sinnis4993
@sinnis4993 6 ай бұрын
@@nikonFB1988 you know that he is making a fortune? so...he is well equipped for adulthood....envy much?
@nikonFB1988
@nikonFB1988 6 ай бұрын
@@sinnis4993 if you thinking making a lot of money makes you a capable and fully functioning adult you must be a child. Money can't buy you smarts, it can't make up for lost time, it can't mend friendships. Sounds to me like he's lost a lot to get that money. As I originally stated. He sacrificed a lot, if he's okay with that sacrifice, fine. But I think in 10-15 years he will look back and ask "Was it worth it?" And I believe the answer will be "No."
@rangered_64
@rangered_64 6 ай бұрын
He's an amazing player if not phenomenal, but the team never seemed to have gotten along, the only one who seemed to be the most professional with Nemesis was Rekkles, Hyli and Bwipo who spoke well of him. The system they had at the time wasn't grounded either due to the egos of the players and extremely different opinions.
@cremlindor6607
@cremlindor6607 6 ай бұрын
That FNC team hated each other. But they had no choice but to play well in order to accomplish anything at Worlds
@shujagal8744
@shujagal8744 6 ай бұрын
@@cremlindor6607 yeah that team had a lot of big egos, Bwipo, selfmade and nemesis. Really great players but that roster just fucked up their careers, look at them, 4 out of the 5 players are teamless or in a 2 division team.
@rangered_64
@rangered_64 6 ай бұрын
@@shujagal8744 And now we live in a world where Rekkles is playing for T1 Academy. Crazy how things work.
@Tomatoffel
@Tomatoffel 6 ай бұрын
So everybody but broxah xD
@squirrelhallowino29
@squirrelhallowino29 6 ай бұрын
Which is a upgrade no matter how you look at it. Rekkles could still achieve things and he's having a great performance in KR soloq.@@rangered_64
@Xshathra006
@Xshathra006 6 ай бұрын
Nemesis was so obviously scapegoated and sacked for the overall bad performances and lack of player synergy. The signs were clear back then, he was literally bullied out of pro-play, yet he keeps showing everyone that he is a brilliant player. I am happy that the guy found recognition elsewhere and was able to hold his own even in such unfavourable circumstances. Respect.
@trooperscientists2000
@trooperscientists2000 6 ай бұрын
21:20 ish. Nemesis and Bwipo played some games together in Korea and talked about this a little. Bwipo said he regretted not caring more about Nemesis' well being and mentioned he did not eat properly at all. I'm not sure if there was more going on than that, but having an eating disorder myself I can tell you that not eating properly alone can hinder your well being and performance by quite a lot.
@TheAfker
@TheAfker 6 ай бұрын
to be honest the missed oppertunities and his apparantly ( as it sometimes looks like it) growing dislike of game changes are probably from him being disillusioned about the pro scene. the dude wanted to be a pro, looked up to faker, tried to have the same mentality. gets signed for arguably the most well known EU team for what? to be treat like shit. to pretty much have your dream torn apart in front of you and then be made out to the world that you're a shit player and toxic. can you blame him for not instantly jumping at the chance to rejoin the pro scene
@jacobdonnely2608
@jacobdonnely2608 6 ай бұрын
Yeah the video was like "There was a misunderstanding and they cleared it up and tried to convince him but he wouldn't join." like it's not obvious why he wasn't into it lmao.
@jdmd3247
@jdmd3247 6 ай бұрын
The thing is that Nemesis failed to realize that Faker’s mentality (and in general eastern teams mentality) are not compatible on LEC or LCS. Why? Well, mainly cause players are mediocre, even more than players is a matter of who manage them. U see strict schedules imposed by coaches and management where they need to be completed from head to toe. On regular west leagues, players practice whatever the fuck they want, scriming blocks not being taken seriously, lack of discipline and many other things. That’s why players like him, Rekkles, elyoya and so others that have this constant winning hard working mentality are hated or blacklisted by players, coaches, teams and so on…
@janos2318
@janos2318 6 ай бұрын
if you cant make healthy arguments, get your point across, cant get on well with your temmates, your talent and determination doesnt mean much
@BayCyst
@BayCyst 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Achieve most of your dreams to have them be turned into toxic memories. Can't blame him for choosing happiness over a pro career.
@L4R0X
@L4R0X 6 ай бұрын
I respect Nemesis a ton and FNC for sure have a rep for being a shithole internally (especially for the past few years) but FNC didn't ruin his pro career. In fact I don't even think it's ruined to this day. If he wants to compete he can, he just needs to finally accept an offer (which he is still getting multiples of every year btw). If he never ends up in pro play again there is only one person to blame and that's himself.
@relay9461
@relay9461 6 ай бұрын
Source trust me bro
@manuelchinchilla1907
@manuelchinchilla1907 6 ай бұрын
​@@relay9461m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mN6Sg7SDycDcqXk.html, it has been known that he has had some offerings, however what has been implied is that the offerings were from mid table teams and nemesis turned them down, so yeah he is the person that is responsible for not coming back into proplay
@santi3256
@santi3256 6 ай бұрын
Basically, he has to be humble and accept an offer not pretending to get first on LEC and going to international first split. U sometimes have to lose to finally win once
@santyg9826
@santyg9826 6 ай бұрын
Agree.
@anindubandara
@anindubandara 6 ай бұрын
Best Example of this, Rekless. As much hate as that dude gets to this day, he never stopped trying. He was benched, screwed over, contract jailed. but he wasnt afraid or too proud to fall back to a minor league, grow, change and even roleswap and climb back up. and now hes in LCK CS. @@santi3256
@UniversalEdits
@UniversalEdits 6 ай бұрын
excited to watch this through, appreciate the work you do mate 👍
@eyeslikeoceans
@eyeslikeoceans 6 ай бұрын
What's interesting is that Nemesis, Bwipo and Hylli wanted to play together this year. Would've been sick to see them in the LEC
@ml-bk9rz
@ml-bk9rz 6 ай бұрын
the problem isn't with them, it's with sam and dardo
@lightspeedrescue
@lightspeedrescue 6 ай бұрын
@@ml-bk9rzThey don't have to play on Fnatic, it's a shithole and why Caps decided to leave for G2 in 2018 even though Fnatic's offer was better
@sliceout9040
@sliceout9040 6 ай бұрын
Props to Bwipo though for apologising and saying he regrets what he said. I think the way he said it was very sincere.
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
100%
@eszeveszettvash6363
@eszeveszettvash6363 6 ай бұрын
"i live life i make mistakes and i deal with them" yeah sure buddy ruin somebody and you the one who "deal with them", what a terrible pc of garbage
@derekrussell780
@derekrussell780 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@eszeveszettvash6363bro there’s nothing wrong with that quote… all you can do it! There’s no time-machine to go back in time to change what was done. We all live-and-learn buddy.
@eszeveszettvash6363
@eszeveszettvash6363 6 ай бұрын
carrier gets ruined* -We all live-and-learn buddy
@derekrussell780
@derekrussell780 6 ай бұрын
@@eszeveszettvash6363 Then how would YOU redeem yourself if you were in his shoes?
@xfrixor_2132
@xfrixor_2132 6 ай бұрын
I think for me the craziest thing about the Nemesis narratives is that the same rules seemingly dont apply for the Fnatic iterations after. Supposedly better rosters (especially the Upset dickriding) produced no international results and reached 2 LEC finals in 3 years. Nemesis had to deal with arguably worse circumstances but produced better results. Curious.
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 6 ай бұрын
Upset was in FNC for 2 years and he got a worst team to finals than Nemesis, he also performed really good at worlds at his 2nd year. Upset left because the managment was bad, same whit Nemesis. Problems are managment and bad rostet bilding.
@JasonAtlas
@JasonAtlas 6 ай бұрын
Upset riders are fast. 👀
@jimmymontgomery4581
@jimmymontgomery4581 6 ай бұрын
He also joined an iritation of FNC which won comfortably both splits and made Worlds Final year prior. It's not like it was a shit lineup, he literally could not join a better team for 2019 LEC . You also leaving out the part where Rekkles left the team after 20' and they split one of the best western botlanes of all time. Cringe Nemesis stans being cringe
@alenlisic446
@alenlisic446 6 ай бұрын
@@stefankatsarov5806 worse team Wunder, Razork, Humanoid, Hylli are u drunk
@nanashiamaterasu8155
@nanashiamaterasu8155 6 ай бұрын
2018 Fnatic was great, but a decent majority of the fanbase knew they were going to be weaker than G2 heading into 2019. G2 wasn't that far behind them to begin with, and then got one of their best players in caps. Rekkles and Hyli would have needed to be broken up for Upset Hyli to be a thing. But if the current narrative is to be believed, Upset is a better adc than Rekkles to begin with. Wunder and Bwipo were very close to each other in performance, Humanoid (when joining Fnatic) was the best mid in EU in 2021, the support was the same, and Razork has so far been a better jungler than Selfmade. @@jimmymontgomery4581
@user-oo8th3cw7c
@user-oo8th3cw7c 6 ай бұрын
This is such a very well made video tbh. as someone that cbf watching long videos, this had me real hooked. Simple, easy to understand, and POV's from all those involved really helped. Good work mate!
@coreywebb4735
@coreywebb4735 6 ай бұрын
Lol did not expect the Destiny clip at the end. Really pertinent to the video. Great job sir, this was well researched and balanced as you did not stray from placing responsibility on Nemesis when appropriate.
@mihalceacosmin7543
@mihalceacosmin7543 6 ай бұрын
Bwipo being classified as red is a federal crime, the man is the most open minded player I have ever seen
@vicentesegura7132
@vicentesegura7132 6 ай бұрын
i loved wathcing him playing DUS, it was like a meet again with his passion, i hope he goes to any LEC team, where midlaners are underperforming rn with a few exceptions, he would help EU and maybe redeem himself, he is an insane player and any team would be lucky to have him
@lordknight7482
@lordknight7482 6 ай бұрын
During Covid I really got into League and the Esport scene. I watched those fanatic G2 games and almost all the games from all different regions. I distinctly remember nemesis going toe to toe with Caps without any issue. Self made was always taunted as this amazing jungler but I have yet to see any proof of that. Didn’t work out in Vitality, I watched Nemesis stream here and there and every time he is always playing against the best players in Korea. I want nemesis to go join a pro team (not NA) and give it another go. His steaming career is in a good enough spot he can always come back to it full time. But he might regret not trying again in the future
@tatzecom
@tatzecom 6 ай бұрын
>His steaming career is in a good enough spot he can always come back to it full time thats not how streaming works my guy
@todetimenamora34
@todetimenamora34 6 ай бұрын
@@tatzecom he can always come back. Thats how streaming works if you are big enough
@Weppi4
@Weppi4 6 ай бұрын
being in a pro team is not worth it by a long shot if you make way more streaming
@Biditchoun
@Biditchoun 6 ай бұрын
@@tatzecom Given how big he is right now, that is how streaming works. It would take time to get back to a comfortable position in streaming after pro if he does choose to go back to pro for a bit, but i have no doubt he would still be fine.
@bradleye660
@bradleye660 6 ай бұрын
I love how you throw in this little eurotrash comment “Not NA” as if Europe is any better than NA. Europe’s best team got absolutely smashed by NA at last year’s worlds.
@shikei191
@shikei191 6 ай бұрын
I really hope he somehow goes back to pro. I've always liked him and was a fan of him. He even got so much better. I'd love to see him compete again, although I know it's unlikely. Just such a tragedy
@vnstyler61
@vnstyler61 6 ай бұрын
Nemesis only goes back, if he gets an offer from an org of a team with the potential to go and win worlds, otherwise he stays in SolOQ and streaming, since it makes more money and is more enjoyable that way (source: I saw a clip where Nemesis himself talked about it)
@Cairyhuntss
@Cairyhuntss 5 ай бұрын
@@vnstyler61 Source = Trust me bro
@jjrunner24
@jjrunner24 6 ай бұрын
Just starting this video but i'm really glad to see someone finally covering this topic.
@DropArum
@DropArum 6 ай бұрын
i just have the biggest sympathy for people like nemesis, it is this kind of person, that i would allways stand up for
@Kudryavka11
@Kudryavka11 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your time and effort in making this video :)
@kenshi4296
@kenshi4296 6 ай бұрын
Waaw i knew of this situation... But not in this detail. Amazing video
@night1371
@night1371 6 ай бұрын
great documentary man! Hope to see Nemesis flourish in a fitting team for him one day
@cutie7012
@cutie7012 6 ай бұрын
1:23 nice attention to detail, that's why we watch your videos. Keep it up 👍
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
no shot blud actually read that
@poeskey
@poeskey 6 ай бұрын
They should have let the cook, cook. Sounds like that was the kind of guy you wanted as a coach.
@samuelbuzek9321
@samuelbuzek9321 6 ай бұрын
2:03 Did you really just call his hometown a "slovakian" city? 💀You do realize Slovakia and Slovenia are 2 different countries right? Nemesis is from Slovenia, not Slovakia. Edit: Just finished watching the video, it was really great and there had to be a lot of research done for sure. Keep up the great work!
@auox6079
@auox6079 6 ай бұрын
was just about to mention slovakian city xD
@iliyan.6618
@iliyan.6618 6 ай бұрын
Bro, you got so ass-blasted because he misspoke once. Chill out.
@user-my6th7uz5k
@user-my6th7uz5k 6 ай бұрын
​@@iliyan.6618 kinda weird if you're trying to make some type of KZfaq documentary video and you can't even get the guys country right. Pointing that out makes you "ass-blasted"? You weird asf ngl
@auox6079
@auox6079 6 ай бұрын
bro chill i just find it funny lol@@iliyan.6618
@loldoctor
@loldoctor 6 ай бұрын
@@iliyan.6618 don't cause a fuss
@ngnl_irisoul
@ngnl_irisoul 6 ай бұрын
I wished Neme learns enough Korean to play on a LCK team tbh. Most eastern jgs are willing to play selflessly at times if their teammates prove worthy and many Korean pros all expressed approval for his play. Idk tho, league's in a rly bad spot for the past few yrs when worlds/msi isn't happening
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
That would be crazy! Rekkles joined T1 so perhaps other orgs will follow. Not sure if Rekkles is conversational or fluent in Korean
@Fayad2133
@Fayad2133 6 ай бұрын
he is not good enough
@rodrigodossantos6236
@rodrigodossantos6236 6 ай бұрын
Jesus christ, I have never seen so much misinformation in a single video....incredible
@souranis
@souranis 6 ай бұрын
another great video keep up the good work brother!
@fuadkattan2924
@fuadkattan2924 6 ай бұрын
Number One problem with Nemisis is that he acts entitled to a good team, instead of earning his way back, That i cannot respect.
@scotthenderson3519
@scotthenderson3519 6 ай бұрын
Most people would rather work with a 9/10 they get along with then a 10/10 that is insufferable. There are a lot of extremely smart and talented people who torpedo themselves because they don't understand this. Nemesis could play 1 years on a decent team show everyone how good he is then swap to a great team but because he thinks that step is beneath him chooses to sit and home and complain instead. His ego is what killed his career.
@dominikursic
@dominikursic 6 ай бұрын
Your ego is wuite bigger than his my guy. He earns more money streaming then any low tier team can pay. And he also already proved himself
@scotthenderson3519
@scotthenderson3519 6 ай бұрын
@@dominikursic What does this have to do with anything? No one ruined his pro career except himself. He just might have to play on a team that won't win the LEC for a year and he could have a pro career if he shows a good attitude and does as well as he thinks he can. NBA superstars don't quit the league because they get traded to or drafted to a crap team. They play show their value so great teams will want them. You can't expect to go straight to the best team in the league if your not even playing.
@dominikursic
@dominikursic 6 ай бұрын
@@scotthenderson3519 do u think he quit? He just doesnt need to play/ is waiting for good offers. If he doesnt play anymore and just streams he is set for life in slovenia
@scotthenderson3519
@scotthenderson3519 6 ай бұрын
@@dominikursic /facepalm. Do you think that is the attitude teams that are serious about winning worlds are looking for? Hell NO, There is someone else that is also good pouring their and soul into getting better on a team in a league somewhere and he is going to get picked because he is showing he will do whatever it takes to win. So again, He tanked himself.
@FuFightersStudio
@FuFightersStudio 6 ай бұрын
@@scotthenderson3519 finally someone who's take is not delusional. Big props
@gamerpro2222
@gamerpro2222 6 ай бұрын
Very well made video, keep up the good research and commentary!
@MultiQwasar
@MultiQwasar 6 ай бұрын
Dang that's a good vid. U could do a Bwipo or Jankos leaving g2 or reckless vid next I think it would click well
@avgoustinos2012
@avgoustinos2012 6 ай бұрын
How nemesis ruined nemesis's career if we are honest. You know the video is biased when it said he is arguably top 4 in lck...even asked us to throw any preconceptions about nemesis and starts off the video like that. One word to describe all that delulu
@CoolzTR
@CoolzTR 6 ай бұрын
I think everyone is entitled to their opinions and whether or not the information in this video is true or not. No one should ever criticise ex players and cause opinionated debates on reddit like. Nemesis is or was one of the best midlaners from what I recall when he was playing and how players like Rekkles says he was the same level as Caps (apparently the best EU midlaner) should say something to everyone. I personally sad to see Nemesis in this way atm, especially if this Vel Koz pick claim is true in how Nemesis was forced to play it despite better champs in his pool. Overall, League is a team game and is obvious that FNC in 2020 were not a team, despite them being the top 4 best performing EU teams in 2020. We as fans will never know the truth and thats how it should be. Mistakes were made and if I was Nemesis during 2020 worlds, I might not bother playing to win if I knew I was going to be replaced based off how my team think I am the problem to their failures. Also, LEC was declining and still is to this day considering how G2 is playing shit and with the mass changes to FNC since 2020 is not improving to them at all. I pray that teams like KCorps or even XL at this rate can make it to worlds this year to prove a point. And i hope Nemesis can return back to pro play because EU needs a new team or a new player to hype for and to be that shining light for EU at MSI and worlds. Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect Nemesis since he was a good player but I do think miscommunication was the cause to his demise in FNC and how Bwipo, Selfmade and Hyli were all playing badly, they had to have someone to blame and blame the quietest team member. League is a team game and need everyone to be on the same page, especially against LPL and LCK teams.
@Fortune500gaming
@Fortune500gaming 6 ай бұрын
Can anyone let me know if nemesis reacts to this on stream?
@danielmirai8236
@danielmirai8236 6 ай бұрын
his history is tragic for me i never blame nemises what happend at fnatic at that time idk what people think about blame him for all that but i hope that he will return someday back on stage but i cant blame him if he wont is tragic that fnatic and lec burned one of the best mid player we coud have. Hope we will se him agian at pro play like i sad but i cant blame him.
@TriTexz
@TriTexz 6 ай бұрын
A 40 MINUTE HAZMAT BANGER
@ju5tm398
@ju5tm398 6 ай бұрын
Hearing all this about Mithy makes me understand now why LS brings up the C9 structure so much
@belldandy97
@belldandy97 6 ай бұрын
I’m sure there’s both sides and then there is the truth, but I can’t help feeling sorry for nemesis
@tongers9188
@tongers9188 6 ай бұрын
the LS clip with the morellos on azir, it wasnt that there was no need for anti heal, in fact anti heals pretty god damn good against a comp like that. it was more the fact it was purchased as first item completion
@blxst3r796
@blxst3r796 6 ай бұрын
2:00 Slovakian? It's Slovenia my friend
@BabyNuke007
@BabyNuke007 6 ай бұрын
Hope to see him rise and dominate!! Come on Nemesis do it for you!
@MariusNinjai
@MariusNinjai 6 ай бұрын
During FNC videos he seemed like a mute only thing saying being "One Plus"
@exoria1098
@exoria1098 6 ай бұрын
Everyday I pray for LS and Nemesis to become friends again
@mr.spooderman4912
@mr.spooderman4912 6 ай бұрын
Fnc did not ruin nemesis' career. He himself decided to not play anymore
@boqork
@boqork 6 ай бұрын
so basically if he was a better midlaner there would never be a problem
@Nao-pj7mc
@Nao-pj7mc 6 ай бұрын
Humans are social, if you fail to be social, thats on you. If youre not actually just a menace in game, no team has to put up with you nor do they want to. Nemesis is a good player but i cant stand his personality, kinda the same situation as with crownshot. If you are good but replacable, you cant also have a problematic personality. Rekkles gets away with all the criticism he gets because of his brand and skill, nemesis isnt even close to that and crownshot is lucky to even be in the same conversation
@ichinoize3978
@ichinoize3978 5 ай бұрын
How Fnatic ruined Nemesis career or how his teammates "mobbing" him?? Few days ago, Dardo said the problem with Nemesis was them team mates didn't want to play with him... and the rest of the team said it as well... So, how Fnatic could manages the situation if 4 teammates didn't want to play with you? I think is not as simple as say "Fnatic ruined his career". Dardo also said Nemesis "realized" he will not gonna be on the team after worlds because someone said it in a podcast before worlds. That people of the podcast said they didn't said it as a new or because they had that info but as an opinion because they knew Fnatic was making scrims with another midlaner because Nemesis teammates didn't want to play with him... but Nemesis knew that too! Probably Fnatic was partly on blame as organization but Nemesis and the rest of the team too.
@kjaerem278
@kjaerem278 6 ай бұрын
The weirdo ruined it all on his own
@blaha2528
@blaha2528 6 ай бұрын
How does the best lol content creator on YT still only have 15k subs? Give hazmat some love lads
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
blaha the goat 🙏🙏
@blaha2528
@blaha2528 6 ай бұрын
@@hazmat1 I really appreciate the personal takes and analysis you weave in between facts as I do the whole narative of the stories you try to paint in your videos. Its all well paced and hold attention easily. You come off as very intelligent to me. Hope you get more much deserved recognition. My honest opinion, not trying to force flattery, I mean why would I, im a random on the interent Ive got no reason to glaze for rapport. All that to say to take this as an honest compliment. Best of luck mate
@philipp_mn
@philipp_mn 6 ай бұрын
I wanna see him on stage again :c
@thebilliast4466
@thebilliast4466 6 ай бұрын
how do you pump out such long videos so often?
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
a lot of edging inbetween my editing and scriptwriting sessions
@AtlasAdvice254
@AtlasAdvice254 6 ай бұрын
Would love to see him hop on to T1 academy with Rekkles since he was one of the only players on that Fnatic team that Nemesis actually got along with
@skrattaoppar9753
@skrattaoppar9753 6 ай бұрын
Doubt they'd replace Poby, T1 relies on developing their young talents ever since they lost a lotta investment creating the 2019 SKT they changed their vision to developing young talents. Sure Rekkles is an odd investment but that's cuz T1 has Keria.
@Soulhope85
@Soulhope85 6 ай бұрын
i keep on reminding people that fnc released nft. so im really not shocked to find out that management is the main issue. i quite liked nemesis and would love to see him play again in an enviroment where he can thrive.
@deadmanwalking7953
@deadmanwalking7953 6 ай бұрын
yo the like, Tenet music right off the bat got me on edge lmao
@xxargonautxx9790
@xxargonautxx9790 6 ай бұрын
ending part was a worry for Nem. It seems like he just didn't believe in himself and had MASSIVE trust issues with anyone after 2020. He had multiply chance to go back into the scene but because he was backstabbed by fnatic, he just lost trust in everyone. Kept on second guessing everything and never tried to move on from his scars.
@maikelkuiper3712
@maikelkuiper3712 6 ай бұрын
I haven't watched this vid but i wanna ask what u mean with backstab? I know there's a misconception around the nemesis situation and im wondering if its about that or something else.
@HanzFikchss
@HanzFikchss 6 ай бұрын
In the start of background chapter you meantioned correctly that he comes from Slovenia. However then you mention Ivana Trump who was not born and raised there but she was born in Gottwaldov (today's Zlín) in Czechia and then you mentioned that the town is based in Slovakia instead of Slovenia. 😁😁
@justesa
@justesa 6 ай бұрын
how does this defend nemesis being a ”good player” coz rekkles said he is? he has mechanics but any soloQ player over master has those. and i havent seen this ”emotionless” nemesis he is a crybaby and makes every excuse possible to not have to do work on himself. only excuses its everyone elses fault but not his own incompitance. hope i never see him in proplay. lackluster at best
@IBNZ1W
@IBNZ1W 4 ай бұрын
I think there was a really harsh silverlining in all this, Nemesis was getting replaced anyway, so Mithy thought he would be fine just abusing the shit out of Nemesis. Except Nemesis went to KR and actually became a much better player. 😂 without that push off the cliff, Nemesis couldn’t have spread his wings and flew up the KR ladder.
@weedle1000
@weedle1000 5 ай бұрын
great video, watched nemesis react to it
@iamthehopefulromantic276
@iamthehopefulromantic276 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos ❤
@carterbeaver4437
@carterbeaver4437 6 ай бұрын
I remember watching worlds 2020 live and all I remember thinking from the fanatic game was "wow that was the most disconnected games I have ever seen" like idk how many times they would set up a gank and one of them just does literally nothing. I genuinely thought they were a good team but they just didn't play together at all
@awareclueless
@awareclueless 6 ай бұрын
After the Thorin video about Leakers on Twitter I wouldnt take anything Wooloo says for granted as source in this video.
@noemus5000
@noemus5000 6 ай бұрын
2:04, minor correction: Slovakia is not Slovenia. But other than that, very cool and informative video
@thomasdoncieu
@thomasdoncieu 6 ай бұрын
It seems to me like Nemesis is miserable playing League but is stuck playing this game since his livelihood depends on it. Any time anything changes in the game he sounds like he would rather not have to learn anything new and risk losing his position as one of the most skilled midlane players.
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
Well since he wanted to quit league I can't help to think that he wants to quit as well (for the reason that League is stale i guess?)
@Archielolol
@Archielolol 6 ай бұрын
Literally every league streamer is miserable playing this game, Tyler1 used to stream 10 hours now he streams 5 to 4
@thomasdoncieu
@thomasdoncieu 6 ай бұрын
@@Archielolol Drututt, RatIRL, Baus and Davemon are a few examples of high elo (maybe except for Baus recently, lol) players who still seem to have fun pretty consistently
@omarmohammad220
@omarmohammad220 6 ай бұрын
@@Archielolol Bro aren't you a Nemesis dick rider or something i see you under every nemesis clip trash talking him when you aren't even one third of his rank or game knowledge or maybe that's someone else with the same pfp.
@jonathanwedler7051
@jonathanwedler7051 6 ай бұрын
I think the part about not wanting to learn new things is just wrong. Nemesis has been playing champions before they became meta (Tryndamere mid for example), influenced picks in pro (Angel picking Malzahar) and is also known for item builds that are uncommon (multiple ppl like Showmaker, Yamato and Jizuke referred to the Syndra Cosmic Drive build as his specific build). He also has the most fun when he explores new options in game like when Taliyah was reworked or Hwei was released. I think he just has a very vocal opinion on the game and he won’t change his mind unless he is challenged by a player he respects.
@Skoundrelplays
@Skoundrelplays 6 ай бұрын
Nemesis was a mid level Mid laner on a good team. He was never great, just hyped up. He plays Korean solo queue and people think that he is now a top 4 mid in the world…he isn’t. There is a reason why he doesn’t play professionally and it’s because that’ll get exposed and he won’t have a podium to stand on to get views anymore.
@gamingw1231
@gamingw1231 3 ай бұрын
ls is the friend we all need
@nicu4152
@nicu4152 6 ай бұрын
good video man!
@luv83
@luv83 6 ай бұрын
The thing people dont understand about team sports is that systems can make or break individuals. You can have the raw skill to be a master class player but if the system of the team doesnt take advantage of your skills. You are way less efficient than you could be. Just because a skilled player doesnt perform on a team most of the time doesnt mean the player magically lost their skills. Most of the time, its just the system not using them properly.
@vdsp1
@vdsp1 6 ай бұрын
"contesting top 4 mid laners in the lck" UAHSUHAUSUASHUAHSUHASUHAUSH
@danielIoking
@danielIoking 5 ай бұрын
At this point I don't know whether we'll ever see Nemesis on a pro team again. He's supposedly not taking "bottom/mid tier" offers and I don't think any well established and well performing team would ever gamble on Nemesis after him not having played professionally for many years. He's probably in a rough spot where accepting any offer he gets probably cuts his salary, just for the chance of playing for a mid tier team that at best can contest for a worlds spot and if that isn't good enough for him, we'll likely never see him in pro play ever again. (all assumption bases on rumors/info and general consensus)
@tomiadc
@tomiadc 6 ай бұрын
how did you get the clips from the deleted crackdown podcast episode ?
@shady_313_ffw
@shady_313_ffw 5 ай бұрын
He ruined his own career with his big mouth and idiotic choices
@DairyCat
@DairyCat 6 ай бұрын
I mean to say he had some bad games in the TES reverse sweep series feels like an understatement. He got gapped pretty fucking hard by Knight. That said I also don't think one series should define someone's entire career.
@derGerhart
@derGerhart 6 ай бұрын
i thought it was just going to be clickbait. Glad i clicked it anyway. I wonder if we will ever see him in a professional team again. Maybe t1 acedamy has a spot XD
@Hjerez17
@Hjerez17 6 ай бұрын
lmaooo dude hasnt been on a team since, maybe fnatic had issues sure, but his personality and ego is why no other team has signed him lmao
@agentcodybanx8909
@agentcodybanx8909 6 ай бұрын
Yea, they ruined him. It's not like he's just been sitting out because he only wants to join a top team that already has a midlaner. He's had multiple opportunities to play again, and he chooses not to. He had 1 decent year and because he likes to talk about pro play, he keeps himself relevant
@AZNGamers4Life
@AZNGamers4Life 6 ай бұрын
Loving the ads every 5 minutes, very cool
@gtperfectgames9771
@gtperfectgames9771 6 ай бұрын
Lets be real. He was in bad situation for sure. I hate selfmade even more. Honestly worst player in Fnatic ever
@user-nm5fg4ht3q
@user-nm5fg4ht3q 5 ай бұрын
I don't think Nemesis's overall dislikeablilty has much to do with the whole FNC thing or because people think that he's a "bad" player. Think a lot people (from the ones I've talked--> 40ish) plainly don't find him likeable at first sight/entertaining and find him very passive as a streamer/player (not that he necessarily IS a passive person (only his friends can know that), just that he might come off that way) and in the streaming world, that's enough for people to be "offput" to watch his stream and change the channel. Not trying to connect with viewers on somewhat of a personal level is also not a good streamer characteristic. Even though streamers aren't viewers' friends and will never be, there needs to be something for viewers to latch and hold on to and Nemesis seems to lack that or at least, not show it/not know what it is/what it could be. However, I can understand why people think he's toxic but I don't think it all stems from his pro player days but from his stream/overall appearance. It took me 20ish streams and talking to 40ish people to realize why I don't like him and that's when I stopped watching. Apart from the fact I couldn't find one thing to connect to (unlike when I started watching other league streamers (LS, Jankos, Dom, Rat, Pianta etc.)), it's just constant negativity on his stream. Don't get me wrong, I do think he's a great player but I'd rather watch a youtube vod of his gameplay than his stream because the only thing I've ever seen on his stream is talking shit about the game and how everyone's bad at it EXCEPT Him and if I wanted that, I'd just go play a ranked game with unmuted chat and get the exact same experience with a possibility of getting LP and achieving something/getting experience while playing which his stream doesn't provide. I understand everyone has a huge ego in this game and that most of the streamers are toxic, but when you combine the following things: he doesn't share anything about himself + when he does talk, it's just constant negativity + he's very passive, he comes off as an "egotistical bratty kid on a high horse that needs to be disciplined by his parents" and not a fun person to "hang out/be around/"spend time with"", certainly not an entertaining streamer you can relate to (at the veeeery least to a miniscule extent). Sure, other streamers like RatIRL talk shit too but you still know something about them non-game wise and "talking shit" is not their ENTIRE stream, it's like a periodical burst and there's always something in between those bursts that separates the shit talking and gives some breathing room from it. If I was Nemesis and I experienced drastic viewer loss (not sure where he currently stands), I would try streaming with some good music and no cam and maybe I'd have a better outcome and my awesome gameplay would shine instead of the toxicity/negativity.
@meijiresolve4407
@meijiresolve4407 Ай бұрын
regardless of how others viewed nemesis from personal experience he is imo one of the most talented league midlaners to play against.
@tgf9tgf992
@tgf9tgf992 6 ай бұрын
I knew LS was a contoversial guy, but come on now he helped Nemesis and so many other. Don't think people understand the commitment and the emotional and financal sacrifice/risk LS made for Nemesis, he literaly went all out to show Nemesis-es full potencial but Nemesis didn't see it that way and didn't take the opportunitie. Btw I am Slovenian and I have played high elo Master-Challenger league of legends for 8 years now, so I'm not just a random talking, could of tried going pro, around the same time Nemesis did, but currently making more money in a stable business. This is just what I think. I don't have insides on everything that happend behind the scenes and we don't realy know Nemesis or LS or anyone else in thier personal lives so its hard to realy say who is to blame.
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's crazy. Nemesis was just a guy who popped up in LS's chat and he had no benefit to gain from doing all of this, yet he did it. Props to him. Sad to know that these are not on friendly terms currently
@jkepic25
@jkepic25 6 ай бұрын
Kakšen biznis? Fajn to, majstri ste da ste tako dobri. Moji možgani so prepočasni ..
@lemonhaze1506
@lemonhaze1506 6 ай бұрын
Bro you’re literally a random 😂 why are you acting like any Master hover can go pro? 😂
@creedRL
@creedRL 6 ай бұрын
Great video
@Tofh40
@Tofh40 6 ай бұрын
Loved how you start the video by saying facts in the first half, opinions in the second. Then 8 minutes in we begin to label players as "open-minded" and "narrow-minded" source: this is my opinion 😅. Great effort on the video! Did you see the interview with Dardo and Thorin that came out recently?
@stykkz8738
@stykkz8738 6 ай бұрын
there's a lot of mistakes with the numbers, FNC lost to OG in spring. And their 2019 worlds run was top 8 instead of 6...
@devenmane541
@devenmane541 2 ай бұрын
Where did you find this? When I google it they are placed 6th and get the same prize as place 5-8
@stykkz8738
@stykkz8738 2 ай бұрын
@@devenmane541 I use lol.fandom which have everything from tier 1 league to tier 5. College leagues. Dating back to 2011. But I dont really use it much for tier 1 leagues 2019 and above. Cause I watched all of 2019 fnatic and EU. I also study the Lolesports rulebook every now and then. Like SoV tiebreaker ruling in LEC
@wardcollector2503
@wardcollector2503 6 ай бұрын
So many X players allegedly were handled wrong by X orgs but you don't see most players sit back and not trying to get on a team again. He's not competing because he chose it and not because of FNC. Just look at Perkz and Rekkles at G2, they ain't sitting around crying about it. FNC is such a shithole that if it wasn't for Perkzs contract which G2 fucked him over, he would have joined FNC back then and let's not forget that Rekkles was happy to go back to Fnatic TWICE. Nemesis got fucked by his weak mentality.
@coachnalu4839
@coachnalu4839 6 ай бұрын
Hey! I love the effort you put in the video and as a slovenien i understand that there will be mistakes in speaking out the name of the city/village. But it is very important that you do not mix Slovenia with Slovakia, they are 2 completely different countries.
@luddat
@luddat 6 ай бұрын
Good video, would love more source management though. A lot of your big statements felt like they weren't backed up with a source. Also, you might want to reconsider saying "I don't know" or "I don't remember" when making a video like this. You had the time to find the information, or if you didn't you can just say so. I'm personally having a hard time forming opinions after this video simply because a lot of the things you said were not backed by sources. GL in the future!
@tntcows
@tntcows 6 ай бұрын
is this guy nemesis's lawyer? Top tier advocate, top tier spinning of a story.
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
What's wrong with the story?
@asllinxux1996
@asllinxux1996 6 ай бұрын
​@@hazmat1 for 1 nemesis is nowhere near top 4 midlaner in Zimbabwe no question about Korea nemesis is toxic he didn't get his way so he shit on selfmade/fnc/......
@viperdragon35lol6
@viperdragon35lol6 6 ай бұрын
Wow i havent heard the name travian in so long i grew up playing that shortly before i came across League in season 2...forgot all about that game
@hazmat1
@hazmat1 6 ай бұрын
Do you remember Tribal Wars?
@DankaDoctor185
@DankaDoctor185 5 ай бұрын
LS and the Cook, greatest goats of all time. That Cook must've had some fucking psychology degree or someshit ong
@JM-gu7jx
@JM-gu7jx 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic video
@janunger6685
@janunger6685 6 ай бұрын
I never got why so many people were and are flaming Nemesis, i always thought he was a relativly good player when he was on the team even making some insane calls and outplays. Of course we never truelly know what goes on inside the Orgs. but its not something i wanted for him
@jonathanwedler7051
@jonathanwedler7051 6 ай бұрын
He was flamed since Caps was outperforming him. FNC fans wanted to have a better mid so they could compete for titles in the LEC and at Worlds. There's a certain irony in the fact that FNC never managed to come close to their 2020 results since then.
@lordknight7482
@lordknight7482 6 ай бұрын
Maybe this will finally convince everyone and nemesis to give pro scene another try
@stefankatsarov5806
@stefankatsarov5806 6 ай бұрын
But yhe guy consistantly gets offers but rejectets them. I personally dont think he will be amazing, just the same as before, at best top3 but mostly top5. But it dosnt matter since he dosnt whant to come back unless he is in a super strong team, which given that he hasnt played for over 3, years he dosnt deserve.
@cremlindor6607
@cremlindor6607 6 ай бұрын
​@@stefankatsarov5806"don't think he will be amazing" " at best top 3". Make up your mind mate
@_Woe_
@_Woe_ 5 ай бұрын
I watch Broxah's content and he is always upbeat, anti-toxic, and very positive streamer/gamer. Whenever I see Nemesis talking about anything he is negative, cynical and critical.
@jabroiduhoi3310
@jabroiduhoi3310 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the world Made him this way? Imagen you are the best on your Team and shitplayers Like selfmade bwipo and hyli are destroying your career lol
@12crenshaw
@12crenshaw 4 ай бұрын
22:26 excuse me? Sylas, Nidallie, Renekton? All have massive healing.
@progue6446
@progue6446 6 ай бұрын
Would love to see Rekkles and Nemesis reunite in T1 Challenger lol
@questionmarkxd8912
@questionmarkxd8912 6 ай бұрын
He might be this insane play every champ guy now but,back then he definetly wasn't.He had champion pool issues and he always chose to play the safe scaling mids. He was not the guy that would lock in Sylas or Akali and 1v9 like Caps. Also climbing korean soloq doesn't mean hes top 4 LCK mid cmon,soloq is a different thing. But he would for sure be top 3 mid in the current LEC so, it sucks that hes not there when he actually seems to have expanded his champ pool a lot.
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