🇳🇱 [HDR] Those remarkable things between rails: Amersfoort Vathorst - Amsterdam

🇳🇱 [HDR] Those remarkable things between rails: Amersfoort Vathorst - Amsterdam - Hoofddorp 20/12/23

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5 ай бұрын

Earlier this year a colleague asked me if I knew what this object between the rails was. You will encounter them in various places throughout the country. I didn't know it then, but now I do, thanks to Prorail. I'm very curious if you know it too, and if you can provide more details about it. I look forward to your responses. Do you see another one during this ride? Enjoy watching!
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@Kromaatikse 5 ай бұрын

31:13 There's the other one! They don't seem to be associated with the signals in any coherent manner, so I disagree with other comments suggesting it is an old type of balise. They're also much too rarely installed for that. Rather, I suspect they are reference markers for track & structure geometry recording trains, so that they have a precise registration of the recording to the physical track.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Correct! Well done :-)

@ncard00 5 ай бұрын

Please up the video quality to 4K60fps :)

@jonathonshanecrawford1840 5 ай бұрын

In other words (plain English) _"survey markers"_ for Dutch railways? It seems there isn't that many of them today? Wonder why?

@Kromaatikse 5 ай бұрын

@@jonathonshanecrawford1840 For this purpose, not many are needed. The train itself has an accurate measurement of distance travelled (not least because the sensors on board can count individual rail joints and sleepers as they go past), and the route it takes is known. There only needs to be one or two such reference markers along the entire route of recording, which may be literally hundreds of miles, to properly "register" the data to the physical track - and they do not need to be at the beginning of the recording. It's possible that the method is transitioning to using a GPS position taken while at a stand as the reference. This can be of similar accuracy to a physical reference marker, provided the GPS constellation is in good order (which it usually is).

@jonathonshanecrawford1840 5 ай бұрын

@@Kromaatikse Thank you, I believe the idea of the balise has been employed by the railways for over 40 years. Like in Sydney _Australia_ they basically knew where the urban trains were _(1980's)!_ Of course GPS train tracking, does make a difference, except when the train goes through tunnels or in a subway of course! Considering there are hundreds of Kilometres of railway track, to insert _"markers"_ would be silly because of the the cost, I guess?

@EngelsNederfiele 5 ай бұрын

The item you showed us falls under the category of balise, some are electrically active and some are just passive (magnetic distance markers and used less often as trains rely more on digital integrated systems.) Most balise on the British railway network are located between the rails, where throughout many European countries they are located at side of tracks.

@kjh23gk 5 ай бұрын

Were they they part of the signaling system? Perhaps superseded by the ubiquitous Siemens yellow boxes?

@frafraplanner9277 5 ай бұрын

That's what I had figured it was

@davidredmayne7269 5 ай бұрын

Looks similar to a permanent magnet used on British Rail to trigger the AWS (Automatic Warning System) for a speed restriction.

@US_Joe 5 ай бұрын

Thanx for the ride. I love to play these at 2X speed - makes more thrilling! 👍👍👍

@aleksandersmirnow2157 5 ай бұрын

You are not alone. In Holland, the quality of many tracks is such that driving on them at a speed of 140 km/h is like plowing a golf course in a 6 liter Jeep. The driver Stefan tried to explain to me why this is so, citing this paradox by the fact that 90% of Holland lies below sea level, and at high speed (150-180km/h) the train can fly into space, but this is an excuse well like that😅

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

You might like my channel Hyperlapse Holland :-)

@powellriver100 5 ай бұрын

Sure enjoyed this trip, thanks for sharing greetings from BC Canada.

@normanriggs848 5 ай бұрын

Another great video. Thank you!!

@newsgodaz 5 ай бұрын

another beautiful ride and interesting info! Thanks

@daveoh13 5 ай бұрын

thanks for the ride!

@theobrattinga500 5 ай бұрын

Weer een hele mooie video meester !!

@TheNixie1972 5 ай бұрын

Volgens mij zijn het bakens waarmee de meettreinen bepalen welk spoor er gemeten wordt. Het zijn passieve magneten als ik het goed heb.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Correct!

@captainjohn787 5 ай бұрын

Never seen so many passengers in black jackets . . . a splash of color would be nice for those gray overcast days; the trains are the brightest things in the landscape!

@JuhaVnt 5 ай бұрын

Great video. Thank you for sharing your views. Really interesting. Keep up the good work. Subscribed with a huge like and greetings from Finland, Juha :)

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Thanks and welcome Juha! :-)

@truebrit3578 2 ай бұрын

I walked down from Naarden (the old City) a couple of months ago when I was on holiday. In doing so I saw several of the level crossings. One, as a foreigner I noted just how many there were and how often the barriers were coming down for trains. Sometimes the barriers seemed only up for a minute of two before they started to close again. Nothing wrong with it of course and just an example of how well trains are part of the scenery in the Netherlands. Enjoy your videos. Coming up to my third vacation to the Netherlands in less than a year. I enjoy trains but most of all I appreciate the integrated public transport of the Netherlands and its reliability. In the end much of Holland between Amsterdam and Rotterdam is like one city. If only more tourists would get out of Amsterdam and find out, that by using the trains and buses, you can explore the country from just about anywhere. My next trip starts in Den Haag and then goes northwards over a set of days to Alkmaar, with a diversion along the way to the lovely town of Weesp.

@starrwulfe 5 ай бұрын

I'm more familiar with Japan railways; this looks like some kind of passive detector for knowing when to communicate with wayside signals/switches via radio...? In the States we have TWC detectors and loops (train-to-wayside-control) that are passive or active depending on the setup.

@blue83902 5 ай бұрын

Great video

@MrPeerum 5 ай бұрын

😊was weer een mooie rit.fijn weekend verders.Mr: Vincent. ik lees wel wat die dingen waren op de midden van de rails,ben heel schieuwnierig,lol. greetz:🍐Peer en Skål.🍻

@tonywallow964 5 ай бұрын

Nice 👍

@ppvd4692 5 ай бұрын

Ook altijd leuk om vogels te kijken op deze cabview videos. Mooi paartje Turkse tortels in de boom rechts op Hilversum :)

@annemaria5126 5 ай бұрын

Wat is er hard en veel gewerkt aan het spoornetwerk in Nederland in 1800. Ik leerde op school: een gezapige saaie tijd. Ook in vele andere opzichten een totaal verkeerd beeld. Mijn bewondering en respect voor al die noeste werkers: de bedenkers, ontwerpers, bouwers van het materieel en last but certainly not least...de bouwers van het netwerk op de klei en in het zand, op natte en droge gronden, in weer en wind.

@MeesterMichelM 5 ай бұрын

Bedankt, dat je er nog terug op bent gekomen!!

@CabviewHolland 4 ай бұрын

Ah daar ben je! Ik wilde je nog een link sturen naar deze video maar kon je bericht niet meer terugvinden. Bedankt voor de vraag, zo aan de kijkcijfers te zien vindt men het interessant :-)

@MeesterMichelM 4 ай бұрын

@@CabviewHolland Echt wel!! Goed gedaan weer! 🥳

@Demun1649 5 ай бұрын

I think they are a travel aid. If you can't see them, it means the water is too high to risk travelling further.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Creative answer :-)

@mmsmits2868 5 ай бұрын

Geen flauw idee wat die balken zijn. Ik ben nog altijd verbaasd dat het bijna 70 jaar heeft geduurd voordat er een directe verbinding was tussen Schiphol en Amsterdam CS... Bedankt voor de rit!

@davidredmayne7269 5 ай бұрын

Looks like the pantograph is down on the first unit? Second unit is displaying rear lights where they are coupled.

@pranowobaris94 5 ай бұрын

Nice videos

@kasperlootens4958 5 ай бұрын

Ik kon niet zien of de beide SNG stellen gekoppeld waren. Het eerste stel had vlgs mij de rangeerverlichting aan (1 gele lamp) en de pantograph neer. Het tweede stel leek het normale sluitsein (2 rode lampen) te dragen en had de pantograph op. (Zeg ik als leek)

@MrPeerum 5 ай бұрын

😊mooie fly over in aanbouw.😊

@charlesnullens 5 ай бұрын

Those are cookie counters of course 😅🍪

@Demun1649 5 ай бұрын

Damn, I didn't think of that. But then, I don't eat cookies, just biscuits.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Haha!!

@Kromaatikse 5 ай бұрын

8:00 There are two SNGs coupled together, one with pantographs down and only a single white light showing, and one with pantograph up and the tail lights showing at the inner end. This is definitely unusual. I would suspect that one of them has a control system failure, and has been dragged into the siding by the other using mechanical but not electrical coupling.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Correct!

@SpeedyK2003 5 ай бұрын

Ik zat in een overvolle sprinter vanaf Schiphol en toen drukte mensen ook 3x perongeluk op de noodknop omdat ze ertegenaan gedrukt werden… dat knopje is extreem gevoelig

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Ja, en ik heb ook het idee dat mensen denken dat het de noodrem is, wat in dat geval een gevaarlijke misopvatting kan zijn. Ik ben geen voorstander van dit systeem.

@georgeadams1853 5 ай бұрын

The second balise is at 18:11 to 18:12.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

No. At 31:11, left track.

@hansgruber650 5 ай бұрын

Luv the Koplopper. I I ever moved to Europa it would be the Netherlands.

@KenanTurkiye 5 ай бұрын

😍

@luismiguelcorrea4670 5 ай бұрын

Sometimes, even in the same region, trains runs at right side, and sometimes trains runs at left side, probably there are many reasons for change , but surely this is always complicated for drivers

@user-cx9le9wc7k 5 ай бұрын

Dit is een meetpunt voor ultrasone trein

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Heel goed!

@piotrborzenda9723 5 ай бұрын

Extra👍

@i80486dx 5 ай бұрын

That's for Marklin trains, they use a third rail.

@aleksandersmirnow2157 5 ай бұрын

This is a passive gauge of rolling stock dimensions

@petergaskin1811 5 ай бұрын

Looks similar to the train driver drowsiness detector used on British Railways. There is a passive sensor between the rails about every two miles which generates a loud ping in the cab, the system then switches off and the driver must re-set it within a pre-set time or the emergency brakes are automatically applied and the train is brought to a stop.

@henkschouten4007 5 ай бұрын

Ik denk dat ik het mis zal hebben,onder elke trein zit volgens mij een transponder,die verbonden is met een zender ,die een signaal zendt naar de verkeersleiding zodat ze daar kunnen zien welke trein waar aanwezig is . ofwel het activeren van de rode seinen.Het viel mij op, dat er ook langere strips midden tussen de rails liggen, die wanneer de trein deze passeert dan ook een langer signaal zenden zodat men kan zien dat de trein rijdt op die positie. het was een zeer mooie rit .Gr Henk uit Steenbergen.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Het eerste wat je noemt klopt maar het object in deze film is iets anders: een permanente magneet als ijkpunt voor meettreinen. Het tweede is een detectielus die moet voorkomen dat een trein een rood sein passeert.

@PatrickBijvoet 5 ай бұрын

It’s art

@MrPeerum 5 ай бұрын

😊er staat een mooie verzameling loks op de Zandery.😊

@cynthiakeyes7197 5 ай бұрын

Well i don't know what it is but I still enjoy the ride ❤ i will check comments

@akai01002 5 ай бұрын

That device you show at the start of the video seems to be a beacon? In my country we’ve got a similar device that called “radio-beacon”. Used to record the speed and the walkthrough a traffic light. Another question…What are those yellow structures in Crailoo railyard? Seem to be some kind of cranes? I enjoy a lot those rides and “visiting” Netherlands. Greetings from Spain.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Those cranes are there to load and unload rails onto trains.

@akai01002 5 ай бұрын

@@CabviewHolland Thanks for the explanation. Keep going on with those cabrides.😊

@roboftherock 5 ай бұрын

The on-screen info you provide about the train does leave me with some questions. E.g. the large odometer differences between 3015 and 3018, both introduced at the same time. I suppose for this all-stations stopping service a low average speed is to be expected, esp when there are long wait times at some stations. Should the conductor not have done the radio test at Vathorst instead of wating until Centraal? As for the faulty train the lowered pantograph would indicate an electrical problem. Does the platform of track 1 at Baarn get used for anything? I've looked at some random dates in the NS archives but nothing shows up. That final piece of data - 1.2kW/km/unit seems to be the norm for all the rolling stock. Funny that, almost as though the figure was doctored.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

The odomoters of these train seem to be resetable. I am considering not showing this info anymore. What do you think? Track 1 at Baarn is only used for some special occasions, not in normal service. The 1,2 kWh varies largely with different driving styles, like continuesly full throttle when late.

@AleksandrVorobev2005 5 ай бұрын

Очень приятно красивый вид!!!👍👏🤝😃❤🇷🇺

@LauriraYT 5 ай бұрын

Die balises in het spoor zijn mij tot zover altijd een raadsel geweest. Andere reacties schrijven wel plausibele ideeën. Op amf: het lijkt mij dat het achterste stel SNG enig defect heeft en in elk geval plat is. Gezien de sluitseinen van het voorste stel branden schat ik dat deze enkel mechanisch en pneumatisch verbonden is.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Heel goed!

@georgeadams1853 5 ай бұрын

It was interesting to see a couple of "cyclo-pousse" in the street at Hilversum. Are they common in the Netherlands?

@pjotrtje0NL 5 ай бұрын

Yes, these are ‘bakfietsen’, typically to get your kids to and from school. And they have them with or without electric support, covers to keep the little worms dry, etc. They’re pretty expensive and they’re a sign of relative wealth.

@javanree 5 ай бұрын

Elektromagnetische bakens welke in combinatie met het CTO meetrijtuig werden gebruikt als referentiepunt bij het meten. Tegenwoordig niet meer in gebruik en bij grote vernieuwingen worden ze meestal verwijderd.

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Heel goed!

@mavadelo 5 ай бұрын

Ik dacht altijd dat het te maken had met je trein beveiligings systemen. Bijvoorbeeld dat als je een te hoge snelheid hebt t.o.v het volgende sein je een waarschuwing of ingreep krijgt van het systeem. Aan de reacties hieronder te zien kan ik dat dus wel eens fout hebben gedacht.

@elloco1996 5 ай бұрын

Zijn dat de automatische cookie dispensers die je van plan was te installeren?

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Bij wijze van proef. Tot nu toe werken ze niet.

@roboftherock 5 ай бұрын

@@CabviewHolland😀Het is de bedoeling dat je eerst de dispensers vult! 😀

@1-1-2robloxentreinenmetjordan 5 ай бұрын

Bijna de 50K!

@tellmesomething2go 5 ай бұрын

very nice. usa

@user-pn7br5jn7b 5 ай бұрын

👏👏👏😊👍

@mmsmits2868 5 ай бұрын

7:57 Pantograph is down on first train set...

@MrPeerum 5 ай бұрын

😅mooi zicht op de Kolenkit vanaf station Sloterdijk.recht vooruit.😊

@jonathonshanecrawford1840 5 ай бұрын

Could those wooden block be survey markers for the railways?

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

See pinned comment

@jonathonshanecrawford1840 5 ай бұрын

@@CabviewHolland Thank you, I understand plain English of course! On many channels, people try to explain thing is technical jargon that some don't understand. Here where I live (NZ) and in Australia. I've never seen those "Survey markers" between the tracks. I love watching -"Driver's View"_ type videos! The Sydney (Australia) one's are great, same voltage 1.5KV DC and 1435mm track like in Holland! However, the signalling system is very basic and easy to understand!

@MrPeerum 5 ай бұрын

😊mogelijk sensoren tussen de rails?🤔

@thbe51 5 ай бұрын

The pantograph seems to be lowered on one of the SNG-units. Maybe some electrical problems?

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

That must be the case yes.

@someoneelse9637 5 ай бұрын

So what is it? It doesn't look like any balise I know of and seems not to be connected to any signalling installation, so apparently not a balise ...

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

I have pinned tge right answer.

@MrPeerum 5 ай бұрын

🥪☕op het CS.🙂

@Wil-70-NL 5 ай бұрын

Een balise. Via een balise kan er naar de trein gecommuniceerd worden en andersom. De chip die hierin geplaatst is kan dus actief of passief zijn. Al naar gelang de toepassing vraagt. Ik dacht dat dit van toepassing is op een ATB NG. Dus ATB nieuwe generatie.

@ravingcyclist624 5 ай бұрын

It's a magnet used to dispense static electricity built up inside the train.

@klm6244 5 ай бұрын

Wich Minute wars this at the begin?

@shyzro6457 5 ай бұрын

10:40

@hansveldman4695 5 ай бұрын

Is het een trillingsdemper?

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Nee.

@marcovisser42 5 ай бұрын

Meester vraagje wat zijn die vlakken met gele kruizen op het spoor? Te zien op 1:13:52

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Ik zie daar geen gele kruizen.. kijk ik niet goed?

@marcovisser42 5 ай бұрын

Herstel meester 1:13:15

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

@@marcovisser42 Aha! Dat is een railinzetplaats. Voertuigen die zowel over de weg als over het spoor kunnen rijden, rijden hier het spoor op. Het gele kruis geeft aan dat je daar beter niet kunt parkeren.

@MadClawNL 5 ай бұрын

Ik heb een vraag. Waar rijd de trein over of langs zodat de spoorbomen omlaag & weer omhoog gaan ???

@stefanoroos 5 ай бұрын

Over het spoor

@MadClawNL 5 ай бұрын

@@stefanoroos Duh !!!! Geef dan geen antwoord

@stefanoroos 5 ай бұрын

Ik was eigenlijk bloed serieus: nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoorstroomloop Er is niks meer dan het spoor

@MadClawNL 5 ай бұрын

@@stefanoroos Ahaa

@EradicationGod 5 ай бұрын

Hi there, I'll keep it English so all can follow...at (1:56) can you explain to me why the weight is so high? I reckon at 110t per railcar and having 9 parts (according the schedule shown earlier), I get no more than 990t. Your mentioned weight of nearly 3500t seems to be a bit much and makes it look like you are not driving the SNG, rather a freight train. ;-)

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

The explanation is this: typing error..

@MisterHieronymus 5 ай бұрын

Easy. It is a soda bottle

@tellmesomething2go 5 ай бұрын

how do they ever keep "track"?

@CabviewHolland 4 ай бұрын

Track of what?

@luissimmons654 5 ай бұрын

I have no idea or what it is use for.

@roboftherock 5 ай бұрын

That's being honest. Neither did I until I read all the comments.

@QueentasticTDP 5 ай бұрын

I checked the comments to know what it is. Too many different answers to know for me 😭

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

I will pin the right comment.

@QueentasticTDP 5 ай бұрын

TY SO MUCH xD@@CabviewHolland

@Browsky-bro 5 ай бұрын

😂Naaa ik zie gewoon een steen. met daar op een houtblok gemonteerd😂

@hansslob6749 5 ай бұрын

1:56 Dat is een zware trein meester. Komma misschein 😂

@CabviewHolland 5 ай бұрын

Zucht... Ze leren ook nooit daar op de grafische afdeling... Goed gezien!

@bartrazin 5 ай бұрын

1:12:42 Rechts de¨NG¨seinen.

@LauriraYT 5 ай бұрын

Waar meen jij een NG sein te zien?

@hodge9993 5 ай бұрын

Brake system auto .

@user-mi1bw2dy1y 5 ай бұрын

😂

@eugenekearns9723 Ай бұрын

You pose these questions, but we never get to know the answer! Just what is it??

@CabviewHolland Ай бұрын

See pinned comment